Suraj Yengde on his book ‘Caste Matters’, Dalit representation, and caste deniers | NL Interview
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Dr #SurajYengde is a scholar, writer, and the author of #CasteMatters. He’s a Shorenstein Centre inaugural postdoctoral fellow at the Initiative for Institutional Anti-racism and Accountability, Harvard Kennedy School, and the editor of Caste: A Global Journal on Social Exclusion.
In this conversation with Newslaundry’s Abhinandan Sekhri, Suraj says the response to his book has been “interesting”. He didn’t expect people to be this interested in caste issues, especially in India, he says, where people tend to consume mostly cheap thrillers and don’t invest too much in such thoughtful subjects.
Suraj says he tried to overcome some of his own insecurities in his book by including personal vignettes on growing up in a #Dalitcommunity. He also reveals that his hesitance in sharing his personal angst is strongly tied to feeling that he was “exploiting” his own story, because of the way narratives are built around Dalit identities in India.
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I belong to lower caste and my grandmother used to wash toilet near my school. Now I am doing PhD in an IIT.
Thanks to you guys for bringing up this conversation. I always had a question on history of varna vs jati which we are fed day in and day out.
Thanks to NL.
The reality of godimedia media
Link 👉👉 #zuramuk2
few thoughts for modern pseudo-intellectuals.
caste did not originate in hinduism. caste is modern form of tribes which had been existing for thousands of years, from the time of ancient humans. most of the tribes declined to engage with other tribes and maintained their identity by strictly following endogamy. every tribe from early human period, used to practice endogamy and were involved in struggle against other tribes. such conflicts kept going in entire ancient history. it is difficult for us to see it now because we feel that from ancient times all people used to just live together and brahmanas created divisions. no. different tribes came together and formed a society which worked for each other. division was already there. caste lines persist because people don't want to forget their ancestory, their roots, their forefathers. once the caste line is diminished, there will be no pure blood line and hence the matter of pride in deeds of their forefathers will be gone. so people take caste seriously, even now. it's complete waste of time to try to eliminate caste. castes have always been there, and it will remain there. you can fight against discriminatory practices on basis of caste. you can't fight against caste system. because it gives an identity to all people whether it's lower caste or it's upper caste.
@@amitranjan44 and according to you, you are the "enlightened ubermensch".
.You seem to be a professor in anthropology.
I would like to know the exact scientific definition of " pure blood" and how it helps in evolution of humans.
@@osculocentric //according to you, you are the "enlightened ubermensch//
according to me?
//You seem to be a professor in anthropology//
no. i am not.
//exact scientific definition of " pure blood" //
there is none.
//how it helps in evolution of humans//
it doesn't.
Very great news laundry.
Thanks for calling Suraj Yengde..!🙏
Everything in india is about caste.
Marriage, job, entry in temple, social status.
Discrimination is rampant.
Don’t forget politics even govt and beurocracy
Reservation will give opportunity not equality.
Diversity Training: WHY Indian upper caste do not get enraged for violence against dalits the way white people in west fight for rights of non whites.
Recently many people discussed this issue on social media ( you tube atleast some dalit media channels.)
There are many reasons.
Biggest one is theory of karma , which makes people believe dalits deserve the life they got due to past life karmas and any thing they get to mitigate their bad situation is non deserving and kind of favor to them. This is at subconscious level and people hardly recognize it. But let's keep that for other time as it by itself a very deep and broad topic.Another reason is white guilt against racism vs Caste pride in subcontinent. Let's keep that for some other time as well.
Coming to the issue:
BECAUSE most people don't see caste system as an Issue or atleast their issue. They don't see how caste system has harmed nation for miliniums and still doing it.
For educated upper caste: they see some intercaste marriage between upper castes and declare caste system non existent.
Most of them know Caste system through reservation system and start hating undeserving lower castes because they do not know and are not taught history of the land and why we came to this point. For them it's unjust ( technically they are right it's positive descrimination in favor of dalits) and need to go.
When upper caste say real issue is economic status and reservation should be on that basis they have middle class or poor in mind but they have no idea what actual poverty is in villages and condition of poorest which belong to dalit Community. They can't see that these dalits are not only kept poor but exploited and humiliated for generations and it's high time upper caste India realize how selfish they are being when they choose to ignore this fact. Conversely, you see in West presence of "White guilt" where white people are ready accept historic wrong doings and are ready to fight to amend it. That is due to education and diversity Training.
They are not taught how for thousands of years dalits were not allowed into temples, segregated from society and only after constitution they got basic human rights.
They don't realize how this issue threatens national security as well( naxalite movement).
They don't realize how caste system among upper caste also is detrimental to the unity of nation.
Is Caste based politics not hindrance and threat to unity of nation.
Stark inequality is a recognized threat to democracy and prosperity in any society. Don't we need to address that?
They are not taught in school why India remain segregated compared to societies around globe due to caste system. There are similar things like caste in other countries but nothing as vicious as Caste system.
Example:
In my school ( one of the best in Gujarat at the time) mostly attended by upper caste ( jains, Patel, Bania, Brahmin) they would announce list of castes ( lower caste) and if you belong to any of them you go to office in the middle of lecture. Then they ask if your parents earn enough or you need to apply for certain assistance , if not you need to submit a letter in writing. Class used to burst into laughing when they announce these castes because most of the these caste names are used as curse words in Local language.
This is their experience with other lower caste. Teachers also used to laugh but missed opportunity to teach students that just how proudly they say their caste some are cursed to be in caste which is curse word for no fault of theirs ( karma theory comes in to play here) and that is wrong. No need to say No religious diversity as well.
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Solution:
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What we can really use is diversity Training program like in US , starting from primary school to college and work place.
From segregated schools and neighborhoods in 1960s and only white legal immigrants if you see in today almost white town ( 97%) where I live currently all white crowds shouting against racism it's due to this education and training. US has issues of descrimination but it's LEAST racist place in the world even compared to Europe which is more liberal on paper.
In this we can include all kinds of descrimination ( handicap, gender, race (north east people, ) , regional biases, sexual orientation and caste descrimination.
People should learn what kind of behavior is not appropriate, not legal, how to identify it, what are your legal rights, how can you help prevent it.
Media can help spread awareness too.
Remember : " Mile sur Mera tumhara" or " Chalo padhaye kuch Kar dikhaye".
School kids can have projects like making pen friends ( Facebook) from other religions, other caste, from different backgrounds.
Summer project can be to educate some one illiterate. You can be creative and sky is the limit.
Trips to local village where people still practicing these descrimination. This will create awareness and pressure to get rid of caste system based and other descrimination.
Dr Ambedkar said unless people share bread, birth, death , joy and sorrows together they will not feel cohesion in their hearts.
People need to know women ( Common women)did not have right to property and inheritance until constitution gave them that right. In absence of that knowledge they just hate Dr Ambedkar as someone who has imposed reservation for dalits and hate him along with dalits. In really Dr Ambedkar had to resign fighting for these rights for women ( Hindu code bill) and not a single leader of the time supported him and hindy leaders vehemently opposed it.( We were not that liberal as we are told, and we still aren't compared to West)
These things need to be discussed and debated. But how many social science students study such things?
In villages people still don't mingle in each others birth, death and marriage ceremony, seperate cemetery, seperate well. A lot need to be done.
This is a proven thing which has worked in US and West, can work in India as well.
Only change in attitude will bring equality.
We need to ask for this in every State and national level this should be implemented. There are other things that can be donebut that for other time.
Please start spreading word (email to people in power,in person what ever way) we have lost 73 years can't wait anymore.
But unfortunately, contrary to what is required, there is a big movement going on in which they deny there is or ever was Caste descrimination in India.
There is a big effort to blame whole thing on British ( Check Rajiv Malhotra, subramaniam swami etc on UA-cam).
If we don't accept problem how and when are we going to solve it.
@Vi K That doesn't mean we can't/ should not change. Cannibalism was also popular in most societies, humanity has moved on. We don't marry off our kids at age of 13, women don't jump into fire after their husbands death and eating with Muslim doesn't mean you get converted into to Islam....
@Vi K other religions adopted existing caste system in India, it's not like that outside India.
@jyo dude read some real history. Dr Ambedkar was better protector of Hindu women than the priests you are crying about ( not that his life doesn't matter but trying to use that as cover to not raise voice for rape and murder of teenager is beyond barbarism.)
Suraj is an inspiration. He is not like other who got government job and forgot about their social job. Aur America se padhne ke liye reservation Nahi hota bhakton
Bhai Hindu upper caste ko US me qouta milya he affirmative action jo ki reservation jesa hi he, yaha pe ye log Reservation ka rona rote he par ye Hindu unchjati vaha jake Affirmative action ka full fayda uthate he
@@rajkaregakhalsa9367 omg I didn't know this.
Suraj ko bolo kuch engineering/medical/advocate banke dikhay like babadaheb,
Phd on history toh koi bhi aur kahibhi kar sakta hai
@@entertainment55 Engineering or LLB krna easy he bhai vese to 😄
@@rajkaregakhalsa9367 there is a difference
In doing bachelor degree from Stanford in science vs same degree from 3rd/4th tier university,
This response was basically to show that
Audience just cant label auther as highly qualified because he did his studies in Stanford/harvard university because going there is easy, but what matters is the purpose
Through i am of the view that degrees dont matter when one self achived something
in the world
Baba saheb, waman meshrab and bsp founder are not heard because they had great degrees they were heard because they did many things practically on the ground,
And when i was reading about the auther
All i found is he did got some degree b did some research from african n american university
But his degree n research is only limited dalit history
So basically he is just the theoriest and no practical ground work on his side
Dr. Ambedkar say if hindu go out of india it take only caste system
If hindu go out of india , then india will become wahabi mulk.
@@umeshkumarsahu2878 Hindu Khatre mein hai
Ambedkar ne "peaceful" k bhi bare mein bhaut kuch bola hai, abi yaha par bolunga toh...mera naam ka fatwa zari ho jayega!
*Hindu scriptures, in its purest form, never mention "caste" or "birth based caste".* *It was the division of labour based on one's merit attributes talent and profiency.*
Read and think! 🙏
Reservation will give opportunity not equality.
Diversity Training: WHY Indian upper caste do not get enraged for violence against dalits the way white people in west fight for rights of non whites.
Recently many people discussed this issue on social media ( you tube atleast some dalit media channels.)
There are many reasons.
Biggest one is theory of karma , which makes people believe dalits deserve the life they got due to past life karmas and any thing they get to mitigate their bad situation is non deserving and kind of favor to them. This is at subconscious level and people hardly recognize it. But let's keep that for other time as it by itself a very deep and broad topic.Another reason is white guilt against racism vs Caste pride in subcontinent. Let's keep that for some other time as well.
Coming to the issue:
BECAUSE most people don't see caste system as an Issue or atleast their issue. They don't see how caste system has harmed nation for miliniums and still doing it.
For educated upper caste: they see some intercaste marriage between upper castes and declare caste system non existent.
Most of them know Caste system through reservation system and start hating undeserving lower castes because they do not know and are not taught history of the land and why we came to this point. For them it's unjust ( technically they are right it's positive descrimination in favor of dalits) and need to go.
When upper caste say real issue is economic status and reservation should be on that basis they have middle class or poor in mind but they have no idea what actual poverty is in villages and condition of poorest which belong to dalit Community. They can't see that these dalits are not only kept poor but exploited and humiliated for generations and it's high time upper caste India realize how selfish they are being when they choose to ignore this fact. Conversely, you see in West presence of "White guilt" where white people are ready accept historic wrong doings and are ready to fight to amend it. That is due to education and diversity Training.
They are not taught how for thousands of years dalits were not allowed into temples, segregated from society and only after constitution they got basic human rights.
They don't realize how this issue threatens national security as well( naxalite movement).
They don't realize how caste system among upper caste also is detrimental to the unity of nation.
Is Caste based politics not hindrance and threat to unity of nation.
Stark inequality is a recognized threat to democracy and prosperity in any society. Don't we need to address that?
They are not taught in school why India remain segregated compared to societies around globe due to caste system. There are similar things like caste in other countries but nothing as vicious as Caste system.
Example:
In my school ( one of the best in Gujarat at the time) mostly attended by upper caste ( jains, Patel, Bania, Brahmin) they would announce list of castes ( lower caste) and if you belong to any of them you go to office in the middle of lecture. Then they ask if your parents earn enough or you need to apply for certain assistance , if not you need to submit a letter in writing. Class used to burst into laughing when they announce these castes because most of the these caste names are used as curse words in Local language.
This is their experience with other lower caste. Teachers also used to laugh but missed opportunity to teach students that just how proudly they say their caste some are cursed to be in caste which is curse word for no fault of theirs ( karma theory comes in to play here) and that is wrong. No need to say No religious diversity as well.
********
Solution:
*********
What we can really use is diversity Training program like in US , starting from primary school to college and work place.
In this we can include all kinds of descrimination ( handicap, gender, race (north east people, ) , regional biases, sexual orientation and caste descrimination.
People should learn what kind of behavior is not appropriate, not legal, how to identify it, what are your legal rights, how can you help prevent it.
Media can help spread awareness too.
Remember : " Mile sur Mera tumhara" or " Chalo padhaye kuch Kar dikhaye".
School kids can have projects like making pen friends ( Facebook) from other religions, other caste, from different backgrounds.
Summer project can be to educate some one illiterate. You can be creative and sky is the limit.
Trips to local village where people still practicing these descrimination. This will create awareness and pressure to get rid of caste system based and other descrimination.
Dr Ambedkar said unless people share bread, birth, death , joy and sorrows together they will not feel cohesion in their hearts.
People need to know women ( Common women)did not have right to property and inheritance until constitution gave them that right. In absence of that knowledge they just hate Dr Ambedkar as someone who has imposed reservation for dalits and hate him along with dalits. In really Dr Ambedkar had to resign fighting for these rights for women ( Hindu code bill) and not a single leader of the time supported him and hindy leaders vehemently opposed it.( We were not that liberal as we are told, and we still aren't compared to West)
These things need to be discussed and debated. But how many social science students study such things?
In villages people still don't mingle in each others birth, death and marriage ceremony, seperate cemetery, seperate well. A lot need to be done.
This is a proven thing which has worked in US and West, can work in India as well.
Only change in attitude will bring equality.
We need to ask for this in every State and national level this should be implemented. There are other things that can be donebut that for other time.
Please start spreading word (email to people in power,in person what ever way) we have lost 73 years can't wait anymore.
But unfortunately, contrary to what is required, there is a big movement going on in which they deny there is or ever was Caste descrimination in India.
There is a big effort to blame whole thing on British ( Check Rajiv Malhotra, subramaniam swami etc on UA-cam).
If we don't accept problem how and when are we going to solve it.
@@alpeshmittal3779 there is no previous life you educated gawaar 😭😭😭😭
Very talented person, suraj yangdre
That's why I subscribed newslaundry❤️🙏🔥
Bhai if this thing seen by vivek agnihotri he will say one urban naxal interview another urban naxal.
That guy is paranoid. His tweets are becoming even more shameless every day
😆😆
@subhadeep mandal Bhai even in Christian religion caste system occur do you know why
He will be right actually
go to science journey UA-cam channel and see video of Neeraj atri exposed which is based on caste and you will see brahmins brought caste not foreigners and now they are blaming it on mughals and britishers but caste system is in India from over 2500 years go check it out If you want to see casteism today go to ambedkarite's people voice channel and see what dalits and poor obc face everyday just because of their caste and they beat everyday because of their caste I agree that casteism is not in towns but it is too much still now in villages and even all the industries news,politically,tv actors Bollywood every industry is dominated by upper caste people if you check out the facts and people by yourself you will find that almost 80percent these industries are dominated by upper caste rss all heads general, bajrang dal and these type of groups all dominated by generals and specially by brahmins everything they have captured everything we don't want reservation we just want equality no supremo just everyone on one level all Hindu one caste Hindu no sc,st,obc, minorities nothing🙏
35 disliker who practise bigotry ☝️☝️☝️ 30 th august 😎😎😎
Thanks for doing this newslaundry...👍
omg, this is so much unexpectedly fortunate to see his interview on this channel, I watch this channel from long time and also I know suraj dada from long long time on marathi channel. and today this two point meeting each other. just surprisingly amazing, more power to you.
which is the marathi channel?? Can you post a link maybe?? TIA..
@@jayraj_p I think it was Abp maza bro or zee's marathi news version
Every word you people speaking true. Castiesm definitely exist .
go to science journey UA-cam channel and see video of Neeraj atri exposed which is based on caste and you will see brahmins brought caste not foreigners and now they are blaming it on mughals and britishers but caste system is in India from over 2500 years go check it out If you want to see casteism today go to ambedkarite's people voice channel and see what dalits and poor obc face everyday just because of their caste and they beat everyday because of their caste I agree that casteism is not in towns but it is too much still now in villages and even all the industries news,politically,tv actors Bollywood every industry is dominated by upper caste people if you check out the facts and people by yourself you will find that almost 80percent these industries are dominated by upper caste rss all heads general, bajrang dal and these type of groups all dominated by generals and specially by brahmins everything they have captured everything we don't want reservation we just want equality no supremo just everyone on one level all Hindu one caste Hindu no sc,st,obc, minorities nothing🙏
father of all game over brother we are 85 percent and these so called upper caste people are only 15 percent. We can easily take them over. We have all the manpower population intelligence resources we have all of the things. We have to take them over. They want hindurashtra because hindus are 80 percent in india, so we want bahujanrashtra because bahujans are 80 percent of hindus. Sc st obc are bahujans. We should take over in every field. Every field be it media judiciary administration teaching executive filmmaking we should be dominant. We must be dominant.
@@arpitsingh4120 I completely agree.
CarryMinati ✔︎ LOL yadavs in MBC? where did you read that? Yadavs are on top of OBC.
CarryMinati ✔︎ Yes, of course. Yadavs are OBC and so they’ll be discriminated by upper castes. And every caste has an area where it is dominant.
Thanks News Laundary for bringing this up
I will pay to subscribe this channel only bcz of this interview.
go to science journey UA-cam channel and see video of Neeraj atri exposed which is based on caste and you will see brahmins brought caste not foreigners and now they are blaming it on mughals and britishers but caste system is in India from over 2500 years go check it out If you want to see casteism today go to ambedkarite's people voice channel and see what dalits and poor obc face everyday just because of their caste and they beat everyday because of their caste I agree that casteism is not in towns but it is too much still now in villages and even all the industries news,politically,tv actors Bollywood every industry is dominated by upper caste people if you check out the facts and people by yourself you will find that almost 80percent these industries are dominated by upper caste rss all heads general, bajrang dal and these type of groups all dominated by generals and specially by brahmins everything they have captured everything we don't want reservation we just want equality no supremo just everyone on one level all Hindu one caste Hindu no sc,st,obc, minorities nothing🙏
watching My first interview of suraj.. Thanks to newlaundry
We should promote this kind of free journalism
My favourite UA-cam channel ❤️
Huge respect for you guys! 👍
Excellent interview!!!
Thank you for writing a book on such topics.
Thank for newslaudry interview such public intellectual Suraj yegnde.
Keep it up 👍
Keep rocking
Dr yengde is boss man.
It needs to be in hindi for people who discriminate and Don't speak English could also understand this. Please think about it. Thank you.
Hey Abhinandan please please please interview Sai deepak ... please please, please!!
Fantastic!!
Yeah always castes matter, it's every where in judicial system, law and order, educational system, movie industry , sports teams, news Medias, some privilege group always enjoy this intangible power, offcourse politics , Chinese and Americans all are happy to see this system still exists in India because they know that if it's continues for so long India can't beat them in economy or India won't be a super power , because they don't need to do anything to stop india from archive those power because Indian's will always do fight for this stupid unreal things
Thanks to Newslaundry and Suraj Yengde for shedding a light upon Caste issues!
go to science journey UA-cam channel and see video of Neeraj atri exposed which is based on caste and you will see brahmins brought caste not foreigners and now they are blaming it on mughals and britishers but caste system is in India from over 2500 years go check it out If you want to see casteism today go to ambedkarite's people voice channel and see what dalits and poor obc face everyday just because of their caste and they beat everyday because of their caste I agree that casteism is not in towns but it is too much still now in villages and even all the industries news,politically,tv actors Bollywood every industry is dominated by upper caste people if you check out the facts and people by yourself you will find that almost 80percent these industries are dominated by upper caste rss all heads general, bajrang dal and these type of groups all dominated by generals and specially by brahmins everything they have captured everything we don't want reservation we just want equality no supremo just everyone on one level all Hindu one caste Hindu no sc,st,obc, minorities nothing🙏
father of all game over I think you misunderstood me, man!
I agree with a whole of lot of aspects that you have mentioned except the “one” as a “Hindu”, people should be free, its not about tags, new tags are not going to do any Changa (accha), the problem will be there!
So activism is required, and thats what Suraj is up to, as a inspiration we shall all look forward to serve our communities.
Thanks for your comment though.
When you give away your caste previlege, they give away caste reservation. Also learn about representation.
Right👍as simple as that
Sounds like a lopsided trade off. Keep casteism for reservation, really?
go to science journey UA-cam channel and see video of Neeraj atri exposed which is based on caste and you will see brahmins brought caste not foreigners and now they are blaming it on mughals and britishers but caste system is in India from over 2500 years go check it out If you want to see casteism today go to ambedkarite's people voice channel and see what dalits and poor obc face everyday just because of their caste and they beat everyday because of their caste I agree that casteism is not in towns but it is too much still now in villages and even all the industries news,politically,tv actors Bollywood every industry is dominated by upper caste people if you check out the facts and people by yourself you will find that almost 80percent these industries are dominated by upper caste rss all heads general, bajrang dal and these type of groups all dominated by generals and specially by brahmins everything they have captured everything we don't want reservation we just want equality no supremo just everyone on one level all Hindu one caste Hindu no sc,st,obc, minorities nothing🙏
@CarryMinati ✔︎ Great Logic Buddy...👏👏👏👏👏👏 If you believe caste system doesn't matter you must not be living in India but on Planet Uranus.
Sir I am fan of your work.
Sir I think the most ignored man by media in present, is Waman Meshram of BAMCEF.
Please if possible introduce him in your interviews.
Us mc katuwo ke agent ko kaun bulayega??
@@Nileshpandey0907 tera baap mohan bhagwat bhi usse darta hai . ha tum kyun hi bulaogey !
@@Nileshpandey0907 damnn bruh why every brahmin guy i meet on internet is seen to be abusing other guy
@@atulranjan9118 kyoki internet par wo khul ke apna aasli roop dikha paste hai
@Gargee Basak mam he is afraid because meshram Saab are behind them because of their DNA🤣🤣
I'm happy to see how he's wearing Blue suit to show gratitude to Dr. B.R Ambedkar. The entire session was so insightful. 🌅
Reservation will give opportunity not equality.
Diversity Training: WHY Indian upper caste do not get enraged for violence against dalits the way white people in west fight for rights of non whites.
Recently many people discussed this issue on social media ( you tube atleast some dalit media channels.)
There are many reasons.
Biggest one is theory of karma , which makes people believe dalits deserve the life they got due to past life karmas and any thing they get to mitigate their bad situation is non deserving and kind of favor to them. This is at subconscious level and people hardly recognize it. But let's keep that for other time as it by itself a very deep and broad topic.Another reason is white guilt against racism vs Caste pride in subcontinent. Let's keep that for some other time as well.
Coming to the issue:
BECAUSE most people don't see caste system as an Issue or atleast their issue. They don't see how caste system has harmed nation for miliniums and still doing it.
For educated upper caste: they see some intercaste marriage between upper castes and declare caste system non existent.
Most of them know Caste system through reservation system and start hating undeserving lower castes because they do not know and are not taught history of the land and why we came to this point. For them it's unjust ( technically they are right it's positive descrimination in favor of dalits) and need to go.
When upper caste say real issue is economic status and reservation should be on that basis they have middle class or poor in mind but they have no idea what actual poverty is in villages and condition of poorest which belong to dalit Community. They can't see that these dalits are not only kept poor but exploited and humiliated for generations and it's high time upper caste India realize how selfish they are being when they choose to ignore this fact. Conversely, you see in West presence of "White guilt" where white people are ready accept historic wrong doings and are ready to fight to amend it. That is due to education and diversity Training.
They are not taught how for thousands of years dalits were not allowed into temples, segregated from society and only after constitution they got basic human rights.
They don't realize how this issue threatens national security as well( naxalite movement).
They don't realize how caste system among upper caste also is detrimental to the unity of nation.
Is Caste based politics not hindrance and threat to unity of nation.
Stark inequality is a recognized threat to democracy and prosperity in any society. Don't we need to address that?
They are not taught in school why India remain segregated compared to societies around globe due to caste system. There are similar things like caste in other countries but nothing as vicious as Caste system.
Example:
In my school ( one of the best in Gujarat at the time) mostly attended by upper caste ( jains, Patel, Bania, Brahmin) they would announce list of castes ( lower caste) and if you belong to any of them you go to office in the middle of lecture. Then they ask if your parents earn enough or you need to apply for certain assistance , if not you need to submit a letter in writing. Class used to burst into laughing when they announce these castes because most of the these caste names are used as curse words in Local language.
This is their experience with other lower caste. Teachers also used to laugh but missed opportunity to teach students that just how proudly they say their caste some are cursed to be in caste which is curse word for no fault of theirs ( karma theory comes in to play here) and that is wrong. No need to say No religious diversity as well.
********
Solution:
*********
What we can really use is diversity Training program like in US , starting from primary school to college and work place.
In this we can include all kinds of descrimination ( handicap, gender, race (north east people, ) , regional biases, sexual orientation and caste descrimination.
People should learn what kind of behavior is not appropriate, not legal, how to identify it, what are your legal rights, how can you help prevent it.
Media can help spread awareness too.
Remember : " Mile sur Mera tumhara" or " Chalo padhaye kuch Kar dikhaye".
School kids can have projects like making pen friends ( Facebook) from other religions, other caste, from different backgrounds.
Summer project can be to educate some one illiterate. You can be creative and sky is the limit.
Trips to local village where people still practicing these descrimination. This will create awareness and pressure to get rid of caste system based and other descrimination.
Dr Ambedkar said unless people share bread, birth, death , joy and sorrows together they will not feel cohesion in their hearts.
People need to know women ( Common women)did not have right to property and inheritance until constitution gave them that right. In absence of that knowledge they just hate Dr Ambedkar as someone who has imposed reservation for dalits and hate him along with dalits. In really Dr Ambedkar had to resign fighting for these rights for women ( Hindu code bill) and not a single leader of the time supported him and hindy leaders vehemently opposed it.( We were not that liberal as we are told, and we still aren't compared to West)
These things need to be discussed and debated. But how many social science students study such things?
In villages people still don't mingle in each others birth, death and marriage ceremony, seperate cemetery, seperate well. A lot need to be done.
This is a proven thing which has worked in US and West, can work in India as well.
Only change in attitude will bring equality.
We need to ask for this in every State and national level this should be implemented. There are other things that can be donebut that for other time.
Please start spreading word (email to people in power,in person what ever way) we have lost 73 years can't wait anymore.
But unfortunately, contrary to what is required, there is a big movement going on in which they deny there is or ever was Caste descrimination in India.
There is a big effort to blame whole thing on British ( Check Rajiv Malhotra, subramaniam swami etc on UA-cam).
If we don't accept problem how and when are we going to solve it.
Hey ! Beautifully written .
It gives many perspectives to this issue and surely I agree alot more needs to be done .
Really good.....I agree on that caste denial movement on large scale ....i have seen them ...and disagree with them.....they even very conveniently in a manipulative way use Dr.Ambedkar's words and thoughts to explain their made up theories ....
Dr. Ambedkar was against any kind of anti social thoughts, practices irrespective of religion, gender and race....but they use his words to point out only those wrongs which focus attention to only two particular religions...and they forget all wrongdoings in their own religion and land.....
Sorry to say but hutyas can't understand this thing
No other better way to have explained the whole caste system. Thank you Sir🙏
Great ..💚
I have this book. It's an excellent book. Thank you newslaundry for discussing this blazing issue.
Casteism (the way it is practiced in India) has seeds in Hinduism, no denial.
Ujjwal K. Unfortunately the present structure has been a brutal version of convenience for the oppressive forces that invaded the country to manifest into the local minds only having its worth putting man against man menacingly. Look at the way how the division of society on varna as it’s origin has perpetuated into birth and dignity based.
@@nickyv9turbonick806 I don't see any invaders responsible for the divisive structure of various Hindu scriptures written thousands of years ago!
caste did not originate in hinduism. caste is modern form of tribes which had been existing for thousands of years, from the time of ancient humans. most of the tribes declined to engage with other tribes and maintained their identity by strictly following endogamy. every tribe from early human period, used to practice endogamy and were involved in struggle against other tribes. such conflicts kept going in entire ancient india. it is difficult for us to see it now because we feel that from ancient times all people used to just live together and brahmanas created divisions. no. different tribes came together and formed a society which worked for each other. division was already there. caste lines persist because people don't want to forget their ancestory, their roots, their forefathers. once the caste line is diminished, there will be no pure blood line and hence the matter of pride in deeds of their forefathers will be gone. so people take caste seriously, even now. it's complete waste of time to try to eliminate caste. castes have always been there, and it will remain there. you can fight against discriminatory practices on basis of caste. you can't fight against caste system. because it gives an identity to all people whether it's lower caste or it's upper caste. i believe in caste system. and i am proud casteist. :)
@@amitranjan44 my only problem with the caste system is that I don't see any logic in it.
If nature has made us alike then why should we divide?
@@ujjwalk.4925 read the above comment again. i edited it. u may find answer.
👍👍👍nice conversation
It was a nice interview
Suraj should consider being active on social media to organise and connect with ambedkarities
He is looking like the weekend ❤️
Can yo release the full interview as everyone needs to see this🙏
I met Suraj at Harvard univesity in Amartya Sen's lecture ( i was a visitor) but I am happy to see him again. All cultures had their own social orders which exploited people at the lower strata. Western civilization even traded humans as slaves. In the 21st century there is no place for this mentality. Everyone is equal. Black-white, bramin-dalit....
you already created bias by mentioning "people at lower strata".. this so called strata is man made, not natural
3:48 this hit me hard!!
Barkha dutt ka full video youtube pe dalte ho. Yengde, chandarshekar ravan ka pay wall ke piche? Newlaundry what is this behaviour?
Because it is some real type of information which people would like to know more by the way news laundry you are amazing
@@fatherofallgameover3319 yeah they cater people like u more.
thanks newslaundry !!
What does a volcano do?
Amazing vdo...salute Suraj nd newslaundry for educating us everyday...
Thank you for this session newslaundry
I appreciate what you showcases but will you also give a story on book "delhi riots 2020"
They will not.
Reservation end krne se pehle social science +economics +democracy inn teeno chizo ko axe se padhe then muh khole
reservation in education (i.e in college admission , and scholarships given in school etc ) is reasonable
and it creates a plane field , whats the point in giving reservation for jobs requiring high education ?? . A friend of mine being minority and obc gets around 7k a year in school from scholarship (which he probably dont need as his father owns a cloth factory ) and another friend who is a bhramin and his father is a barber gets nothing . Am I being castist to for opposing this reservation ? A needy person got admission in a good college due to reservation which is reasonable and necessary , got a high paying govt job due to the same , his child gets admission and govt job ... and the cycle continues . With what social science or economics do you justify that hun .( If you judge this question by the questioner's name you my friend are racist ) (ps : i am not in favor of completely removing reservation)
@@dhruvie go to science journey UA-cam channel and see video of Neeraj atri exposed which is based on caste and you will see brahmins brought caste not foreigners and now they are blaming it on mughals and britishers but caste system is in India from over 2500 years go check it out If you want to see casteism today go to ambedkarite's people voice channel and see what dalits and poor obc face everyday just because of their caste and they beat everyday because of their caste I agree that casteism is not in towns but it is too much still now in villages and even all the industries news,politically,tv actors Bollywood every industry is dominated by upper caste people if you check out the facts and people by yourself you will find that almost 80percent these industries are dominated by upper caste rss all heads general, bajrang dal and these type of groups all dominated by generals and specially by brahmins everything they have captured everything we don't want reservation we just want equality no supremo just everyone on one level all Hindu one caste Hindu no sc,st,obc, minorities nothing🙏
@@dhruvie Bro chill now chaukidaar has given the privalage of 10 % reservation for upper caste specifically to पंडास।
Excellent work done by doctor Suraj yangde.he is a brilliant man.
Look who's appropriating african-american culture 😯
The best interview of the decade in newlaundry.
We have desensitised ourselves to the Dalits ! This is the remnant of Gandhi’s works over Ambedkar. Let us all take over where Ambedkar left of!
When dalit men start talking about upper caste women, that's when the masks come off.
Daliths should talk about Queen of England
What are we doing to end the caste system apart from digging the dead?
My favourite news portal
So proud of you my dear friend Suraj Yengde 🌹💖🇮🇳🙏
Brahmins and UC hindus are fed up of people talking about caste,just imagine how fed up we r living it...
@Resurrected jesus arey...I am an s.c,"aadi karnataka" caste.google it.idiot.
@Resurrected jesus how can u be this wrong and yet so confident.?fyi,krishna was nt a dalit.he was yadav.go to the library and read more.and most s.c are depressed and the central govt report says it.can u stop from ur busy schedule in watsapp uni and check it out once.?ty.
@@poojithrao4864 Resurrected Jesus is not a dalit, he's a UC. I am very well versed in the ways these UCs use to justify their false beliefs. Better you ignore him.
@Resurrected jesus s dalit didn't exist cause they didn't consider us humans...u do know that s.c s.t of today were not even in the chaturvarna right?time to study bro.dont talk rubbish and lick boots of brahmins.have some self-respect.
Jai Bheem
very good interview which talk about shit of caste-ism domination by Brahmans
Love you Mountu bhai aka Dr. suraj Yengde
If you add Hindi videos you can reach a bigger audience
Not Hindi imposition just an advice 😅😅
Please..... We need the full video.
My FAV channel ♥
Such a sad reality!
Great job! News laundry
The human potential of every segment of Indian society has to be unleashed. God knows when this will happen.
God bless you suraj you are blessed
Caste is practice. True.
We need to ensure that the Varna system becomes ‘intrinsic nature’ (dosha) based rather than birth based.
This needs to be the fight.
If the Caste system becomes dosha (intrinsic nature) based, then the Varna, Jati, Kula system is an effective social system.
A big thanks to news laundry for Showing the reality and sharing such valuable information
Babasaheb wrote about annihilation of castes system but I want annihilation of the Hinduism which practices the castes system.
Not gonna happen dude. You don’t throw away a fish because it has thorns in it. You remove the thorns and relish the fish. So is religion.
I support you
I will subscribe only to see this interview
Good job newslaundry 👏
Sir you are so inspiring.
Ohh man just few days ago my subscription ended I seriously want to watch this out.
Nicely said..Suraj..👍
I can give free hair cut to this Poor champ! Without looking at his cast and creed!
Do to ur ppl.
Dont worry abt outside the head, worrying u is inside his head.
Saravanam G what people? you are my people! I am a Dalit too bro! None the less, I will still give him free hair cut! His Cactus shaped hair looks uggh!
Dude he loves his hair like that😂😂😂
@@ashkum3091 : that’s ur problem not sooraj’s ...so grow up soon
Abhinandan....on a lighter note ...you shd ask him inspiration of his hair style😂
Man this person seems dope. I’ll subscribe you today only.
You are seeing what U are
ekdum bhaari Suraj Dada 👍🏻❤️
Caste isn’t Hinduism
The Varna system, referred to in Hindu scripture but mostly in the post-Vedic period, is mostly theoretical today. In the real world that Jaati communities inhabit, discrimination is about issues that have little to do with religion-access to wells, economic power, sexual exploitation, and tribalistic solidarity-which is why discrimination exists even in non-Hindu India. Luckily, as communities become empowered, develop economically, and as individuals migrate away from those who historically oppressed them (or from those they oppressed), these same factors may become far less important. Indeed, there are plenty of Hindus-especially in the diaspora and among Hindus of non-Indian origin-who profess no caste and find caste irrelevant. (The Hindu American Foundation examined caste in 2010 and found that, scripturally and practically, nothing in Hinduism requires caste, and caste-based discrimination is contrary to Hindu principles.) Hinduism is Vedanta; Hinduism is Yoga; Hinduism is Ahimsa and the Bhagvad Gita and Bhakti and pluralism. But caste? Indians may practice it, but Hinduism, it is not.
www.patheos.com/blogs/seekingshanti/2015/03/hinduism-is-not-caste-explaining-caste-privilege-and-ending-caste-based-discrimination/
Casteism exists only for Dalits and OBC, there is no casteism if you come from an upper caste in India.
Exactly
He is belonging from Nanded Maharashtra he is our nebour
Tu kuthla ahes bhau
@@vikasgaikwad2954 Beed (Ambajogai)cha
Great revolutionary!
Hypocrisy is the main cause in Indian society.
Good
@newslaundry
@surajyengde
The question was specifically whether vedic support exists for casteism? We understand caste based segregation, oppression, and exploitation exists(in all denial of humanity to a large section of society based on caste-system). However, Abhinandan was specifically interested in knowing how do you deal with caste-deniers of specific kind, those who deny shastric injunction for casteism. Completely off the mark.
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They teach you about the British divide and rule policy in school which lasted almost 400 years
What they don't teach you in school about Hinduism divide and rule policy
They divide people in the name of caste and ruled for more than 1000 years...
and this division weakened the country of India's size (7th largest in the world ) that is protected by sea in South and mountains in the north resulting 2 back 2 back invasion first Mughals and then British.......
no offense to muslim community because majority of are converted because of caste discrimination
Full video on UA-cam link?
RSS now is saying everybody is equal , there is no upper lower sections , everybody is hindu , including sikhs! To suit the agenda of ruling over India, येन केन प्रकारेण , say anything , once rss rule is established , nobody will have a voice anyway .
Casteism is shit in UP and Bihar
Not everywhere !!
Oh, you bet casteism exists in India. It always has. The only difference is that now it exists on both sides of the line. Reverse casteism exists as surely as I breathe and type this comment. There is no point in either side taking a holier-than-thou attitude.
Nice
I have seen him acting in #Aashqeen
Hello sir I am a big fan of your channel.
Why is missionary going on rampage to covert Dalits. And why leftist dont oppose this conversion. Dont you see high wealthy corporate misssionary converting poor hindus wrong
Suraj yengde sir really doing nice job for marginalized people & dalit
&its really nice idea sir about dalit exclusive media space..
Reason why caste is not in vedas is just because caste came in later vedic period, but varna is mentioned in earliest veda ie in 10th mandal, purush sukta of rig veda.
I promise you brother there will be at least one anti-caste movement from the sawarnas.
Why we are we wounded civilization ans: because of Cast system
If we majority not slaved by bramhan and chatriya we could fight to invedor .
I first thought its a comic or satire video by his look.
And then what did you realise after the interview , if you had viewed it completely .
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No I didn't watched the complete video, because I am not interested. I have nothing to do with caste system. I do not belong to the casteist religion or community. I believe in no religion. I have other issues to think of. I support the people who are doing something against it. But I don't think I have anything to do with it.
@@kaifi7 Impressed with your philosophy .
All right, but his hair🔥🔥
Focus on the fruits not bushes
Both are confused by the Varna and jasthi system of Bharath . Let them continue to rattle ...