16:02 for somebody without any training or experience, getting from point A to point B can be daunting. When I was a kid I grew up in the fire department and I was in the scouts and civil air patrol. We used to go out and practice looking for crashed aircraft, hiking through the woods with a map and a compass. Wouldn't take long to get lost without those! As a medic and firefighter now that I'm a disabled veteran, I really appreciate the GPS- I don't miss the days of trying to find a patient or fire call with just a key map!
2:34 I'm watching this on my 75 inch 4K UHD TV, your hike is gorgeous and I really appreciate your excellent camera and the steadiness! I'm from a mite further north, up in the notches of northern New Hampshire & this is a treat, a little visit home where I used to love to tramp the woods.
Thank you so much, I appreciate that! It was a beautiful fall day out when I was hiking to this site, so I was excited to share the beautiful views in this video!
It’s a good point you made j that it would’ve been to much to grind out all of the machines , regardless it’s interesting that they didn’t, to possibly test the wreckage for data they can use for manipulation of the airplane before crashing so that parts can’t be collected by the enemy.
Money. It's always all about the bottom line. Same reason all the war material that was shipped overseas was donated to the countries where wound up, to costly to return to the USA. The cost benefit analysis didn't work out in favor of retrieval. I heard about a business that was demolishing buildings at an old industrial site when they encountered structural support beams that have been painted with asbestos paint in the 70s. As best as isn't an issue until it's turned into airborne particles so it was safe as paint on the steel, But the cost of ameliorating and mitigating the paint as hazmat was greater than the scrap value of the steel, so they just dug a big hole and buried it. 🤷
Neat video! This aircraft was an early all-weather fighter jet that was derived from a T-33 from the late 1940’s. Its service history was short due to the evolving technology during the Cold War and was relegated to Air National Guard units in Air Defense Command. It appears that over the years treasure hunters picked it clean with not much left. You should visit some of the old Nike missile sites throughout NY/NJ and do a video of those!
Interesting, thanks for the further details! Fascinating stuff! And I actually did visit a NIKE Missile site in New York just a few weeks ago! I posted a video on the Clausland Mountain Tunnels in Orangetown, NY recently, and I briefly discussed the NIKE site that’s nearby it! Would love to explore more of them!
I have been to this crash site and was told that the pilot was in contact with Barnes airport in Westfield but he was lost in the snow storm. Barnes was trying to direct him back to the airport but could not detect where he was. Remember this was way before GPS for guidance. As he was running out of fuel he bailed out of the plane and because there was not explosion from the crash he assumed the plane crashed into the water. As I was told the crash wasn't found until 7 years later by a hiker. The plane didn't burn because it was out of fuel.
Interesting, thank you for the information! I find it fascinating that it took another 7 years until the wreckage site was discovered… just goes to show how remote this location is, especially back in the 50s.
Awesome video. Your research, delivery, and narrative were outstanding. You also seem very respectful and humble. I have never heard of this incident before or the wreckage, but I thank you for the video.
At 15:05 or so you can see the USAF “star and bar” pattern faintly upside down on the aluminum. I will have to visit this now that I know about it! Thanks
The "cool piece" is actually landing gear. The close up stuff you look at later (with multiple circular tubes coming off it) appears to be the jet engine.
@@j-mass they should really put up some kind of sign so people don’t just assume the worst… I’m sure there’s been at least one confused phone call made
Yeah, surprisingly there were no signs anywhere… you basically have to know about it in advance to get there and learn any history about it. Signage is probably needed 😂
I like how you said the leaves are in "full bloom". Also, that crumpled metal definitely looked like draped fabric. Great comparison. Please let us know if the trail is suitable for biking. 7 miles on a bike is much more accessible.
Haha, “full bloom” in fall is definitely a bit ironic considering the leaves are dying 😂 I’d say biking is accessible for the most part! The trail is technically paved most of the way, and I did see quite a few bikers coming back. It might be tricky on the very last leg of the trail, that is, the final left out to the jet crash, but it’s still pretty moderate overall. A bike should work out fine!
ITS TUESDAY LETS GO Great video my dude! Totally missed out on the livestream a couple of days ago. I saw the notification, but everybody wouldn't stop coming in at work lol. Hope to catch the next live!
Hey J-mass, great video. I think the piece that you held up is from the fuselage just below the pilot’s canopy. The red part corresponds to a triangular warning sign that states “DANGER” on the three sides and “EJECTION SEAT” in the middle. There’s one on static display at Otis AFB that has that marking.
Very cool spot - I've been out to the Dana Commons before but I never knew about this crash site. I really enjoyed it! I will mention that it's a gated road into the area and when I was there, someone broke into my car and stole my GF's pocketbook, it's a pretty rural location - that was circa 1980 or so. Thanks for sharing J-man.
Ugh, I’m sorry to hear that man, that is such a shame! I’m also shocked that happened in this area, which is pretty sparse and rural. Luckily, I’ve had no issues before on my end-this was my third time visiting Dana Common!
@@j-mass At the time, it was the last thing I thought would happen - but they obviously knew nobody was going to see them do it. Still a gorgeous area though. I like how when you walk to the end of some of those old roads they just continue into the water. Cheers J!
Your channel is awesome. This is what life used to be before Google. My youth we just explored & experienced life just like these adventures of yours. It was a great time to be alive! I do wonder why they left such a huge debris field behind? Seems like in this eco age someone would want to pick it all up. I wonder what the story truly is.
Thank you so much! I bet you did a lot of great exploring back then! And yeah, it is strange that the wreckage is still so “intact” there. I know that, in the ‘50s, that site was so remote that removing everything was not economically feasible-but there could always be more to it!
@@j-mass no problem, I think that's less southern NH than I remembered. Looking on the map, I think I initially rode by it on the way up to Laconia for bike week.
Good morning from Cape Cod ⛵ yeah it's just a casual 7 mi round trip hike 😉 very cool, not cool of the crash but cool investigating the aftermath Jason 👍✌️🇺🇲
Unfortunately, it’s not marked on the trail, so you’ll need to know exactly where it is while hiking… luckily, All Trails has it mapped down! That’s what I used to find it!
Exactly! Keep following that road straight down, then you’ll take a right towards the end, and then another right which leads directly to the plane crash site. Luckily the exact route is listed on All Trails!
I have not yet-but it’s been on my list for ages now! I’ve heard security is quite strict there, so unfortunately I’ve been a bit wary about exploring it haha. Someday!
@@j-mass I’ll be honest I think the security thing is just too scare people off. I went there one night and staid for about 6 hours. During that time like 3 or 4 different groups of high schoolers showed up at varying points lol. It seems too be a very commonly visited spot. Still in relatively decent condition all things considered. Pretty sure you only have to worry about people living near by calling the cops if your loud or disruptive.
Ahh gotcha, thanks so much for the tip bro, I appreciate that! I know a lot of spots “threaten” security as a countermeasure, even if there really isn’t much. Hoping to get out there soon!
The main reason why it was left there is cause he thought it crashed in the water and sunk so they never bothered looking for it, it wasnt found until way later
4:56 Well, he survived physically. I'm willing to bet his career suffered moderate to severe injury. In the Navy they call ejecting "ringing the admiral's doorbell", because you have to stand tall for the man and explain why you just disposed of many, MANY millions of taxpayer dollars of equipment! *_NOT_* a pleasant experience.
1:17 _All_ the way back? In the dim mists of ancient history of not quite 1000 days ago? 🤣 I strongly suggest that if you're going to be in the woods that time of year you wear a safety vest. There are a discouraging number of injuries and deaths when hunters just pulled the trigger when they see something move because they only expect deer. Hate for you too suffer a mischief brother!
😅 Yeah, those names can be a bit of a chore. After I got out of the Navy I want up in Gulf Coast Texas, trying to pronounce Humble (umbull), Atascocita (I kept calling it atascotia, like Nova Scotia) & Refugio (reefureeyoh). Family and coworkers found it very entertaining. 😹
pisses me off, why is the sight left like this .. if you crash "your" plane it is up to you to clean the site. the government should have cleaned this site many years ago.
Cost/benefit analysis: the scrap value was less than the cost of recovery. I don't disagree that it would be preferable to not leave trash lying around, but I can understand that there's only so much tax money to go around, and I don't want my taxes going up anymore than anybody else does. 🤷
16:02 for somebody without any training or experience, getting from point A to point B can be daunting. When I was a kid I grew up in the fire department and I was in the scouts and civil air patrol. We used to go out and practice looking for crashed aircraft, hiking through the woods with a map and a compass. Wouldn't take long to get lost without those! As a medic and firefighter now that I'm a disabled veteran, I really appreciate the GPS- I don't miss the days of trying to find a patient or fire call with just a key map!
2:34 I'm watching this on my 75 inch 4K UHD TV, your hike is gorgeous and I really appreciate your excellent camera and the steadiness! I'm from a mite further north, up in the notches of northern New Hampshire & this is a treat, a little visit home where I used to love to tramp the woods.
Thank you so much, I appreciate that! It was a beautiful fall day out when I was hiking to this site, so I was excited to share the beautiful views in this video!
Never ceases to amaze me that us people never clean up our messes except within our own home.
It’s a good point you made j that it would’ve been to much to grind out all of the machines , regardless it’s interesting that they didn’t, to possibly test the wreckage for data they can use for manipulation of the airplane before crashing so that parts can’t be collected by the enemy.
Money. It's always all about the bottom line. Same reason all the war material that was shipped overseas was donated to the countries where wound up, to costly to return to the USA.
The cost benefit analysis didn't work out in favor of retrieval. I heard about a business that was demolishing buildings at an old industrial site when they encountered structural support beams that have been painted with asbestos paint in the 70s. As best as isn't an issue until it's turned into airborne particles so it was safe as paint on the steel, But the cost of ameliorating and mitigating the paint as hazmat was greater than the scrap value of the steel, so they just dug a big hole and buried it. 🤷
You are taking pictures,leaving tracks.making memories!!!! Awesome.job!!!!
Thank you so much dude, I appreciate that! I love getting out and exploring! 🙌
Neat video!
This aircraft was an early all-weather fighter jet that was derived from a T-33 from the late 1940’s.
Its service history was short due to the evolving technology during the Cold War and was relegated to Air National Guard units in Air Defense Command. It appears that over the years treasure hunters picked it clean with not much left.
You should visit some of the old Nike missile sites throughout NY/NJ and do a video of those!
Interesting, thanks for the further details! Fascinating stuff! And I actually did visit a NIKE Missile site in New York just a few weeks ago! I posted a video on the Clausland Mountain Tunnels in Orangetown, NY recently, and I briefly discussed the NIKE site that’s nearby it! Would love to explore more of them!
This particular aircraft was built in 1949.
F-94A #49-2552
I have been to this crash site and was told that the pilot was in contact with Barnes airport in Westfield but he was lost in the snow storm. Barnes was trying to direct him back to the airport but could not detect where he was. Remember this was way before GPS for guidance. As he was running out of fuel he bailed out of the plane and because there was not explosion from the crash he assumed the plane crashed into the water. As I was told the crash wasn't found until 7 years later by a hiker. The plane didn't burn because it was out of fuel.
Interesting, thank you for the information! I find it fascinating that it took another 7 years until the wreckage site was discovered… just goes to show how remote this location is, especially back in the 50s.
Awesome video.
Your research, delivery, and narrative were outstanding. You also seem very respectful and humble.
I have never heard of this incident before or the wreckage, but I thank you for the video.
Wow, I truly appreciate the kind words-that means a lot to me! Thank you so much! This was such a fascinating site to explore!
Very interesting. Just an FYI. The towns involved are pronounced, Peter-sham and Gren-ich. It's directly related to old English.
Well done. Nice presentation
At 15:05 or so you can see the USAF “star and bar” pattern faintly upside down on the aluminum. I will have to visit this now that I know about it! Thanks
That’s awesome, I don’t think I noticed that before! Very cool, thanks for pointing that out!
The "cool piece" is actually landing gear. The close up stuff you look at later (with multiple circular tubes coming off it) appears to be the jet engine.
I see, thank you so much for the clarifications! That makes sense to me, especially now that I’m re-evaluating the wreckage.
Could you imagine just walking through the woods unknowingly and finding that 😂 I wouldn’t know what to think
LOL good point! Especially considering how rural and remote this area is, I’d be so freaked out to stumble upon it!
@@j-mass they should really put up some kind of sign so people don’t just assume the worst… I’m sure there’s been at least one confused phone call made
Yeah, surprisingly there were no signs anywhere… you basically have to know about it in advance to get there and learn any history about it. Signage is probably needed 😂
I like how you said the leaves are in "full bloom". Also, that crumpled metal definitely looked like draped fabric. Great comparison. Please let us know if the trail is suitable for biking. 7 miles on a bike is much more accessible.
Haha, “full bloom” in fall is definitely a bit ironic considering the leaves are dying 😂 I’d say biking is accessible for the most part! The trail is technically paved most of the way, and I did see quite a few bikers coming back. It might be tricky on the very last leg of the trail, that is, the final left out to the jet crash, but it’s still pretty moderate overall. A bike should work out fine!
ITS TUESDAY LETS GO Great video my dude! Totally missed out on the livestream a couple of days ago. I saw the notification, but everybody wouldn't stop coming in at work lol. Hope to catch the next live!
No worries dude! That livestream was very last-minute and spontaneous to be fair. Thanks for tuning in as always, glad to see you! 🙌
Excellent content, new to New England and love the channel.
Thanks so much man, and welcome to New England! 🙌
Hey J-mass, great video. I think the piece that you held up is from the fuselage just below the pilot’s canopy. The red part corresponds to a triangular warning sign that states “DANGER” on the three sides and “EJECTION SEAT” in the middle. There’s one on static display at Otis AFB that has that marking.
Very interesting, thank you so much for the info and details! This really helped paint a picture of exactly what I was looking at!
Awesome video!! This is such a cool spot!
Thanks so much dude! 🙏 I agree, such a fascinating site!
This was very interesting! The history really adds to the site.
Agreed, the history of this site is absolutely fascinating!
Great video . Hello from Central Connecticut..
Very cool spot - I've been out to the Dana Commons before but I never knew about this crash site. I really enjoyed it! I will mention that it's a gated road into the area and when I was there, someone broke into my car and stole my GF's pocketbook, it's a pretty rural location - that was circa 1980 or so. Thanks for sharing J-man.
Ugh, I’m sorry to hear that man, that is such a shame! I’m also shocked that happened in this area, which is pretty sparse and rural. Luckily, I’ve had no issues before on my end-this was my third time visiting Dana Common!
@@j-mass At the time, it was the last thing I thought would happen - but they obviously knew nobody was going to see them do it. Still a gorgeous area though. I like how when you walk to the end of some of those old roads they just continue into the water. Cheers J!
Your channel is awesome. This is what life used to be before Google. My youth we just explored & experienced life just like these adventures of yours. It was a great time to be alive!
I do wonder why they left such a huge debris field behind? Seems like in this eco age someone would want to pick it all up. I wonder what the story truly is.
Thank you so much! I bet you did a lot of great exploring back then! And yeah, it is strange that the wreckage is still so “intact” there. I know that, in the ‘50s, that site was so remote that removing everything was not economically feasible-but there could always be more to it!
Nice explore I’m going back to the 101b on bald next summer in Maine maybe see you there
I need to check that one out, hopefully next year as well!
@ There’s a couple up north that are pretty cool, ones a little easier to get to than the other great videos man!
Awesome dude thanks
14:50 looks like an fully intact Aileron.
JMASS, dope Tuesday. That UFO marker I mentioned in your livestream on Sunday is in Lincoln, NH.
Perfect, thanks dude! I’ll definitely check that out next time I’m up in the White Mountains!
@@j-mass no problem, I think that's less southern NH than I remembered. Looking on the map, I think I initially rode by it on the way up to Laconia for bike week.
I’m hoping to get up there again within the next few months, so I’ll definitely check it out!
Good morning from Cape Cod ⛵ yeah it's just a casual 7 mi round trip hike 😉 very cool, not cool of the crash but cool investigating the aftermath Jason 👍✌️🇺🇲
Haha, hey it’s at least a moderate 7 miles! 😂 Thanks for tuning in as always!
Is this site marked on the trail? Would love to see this..
Great vid. Thank you...
Unfortunately, it’s not marked on the trail, so you’ll need to know exactly where it is while hiking… luckily, All Trails has it mapped down! That’s what I used to find it!
How did you know about this? One time I found a table and chairs carved out from a tree randomly in the woods and this reminded me of that
In the introduction of the video, I show all of the comments from my 2022 Dana Common exploration video that informed me of this spot!
yo i was at that crash sight 2 years ago had a close encounter with a bod cat too
Do you just keep following Greenwich-Dana rd. To get to the site?
Exactly! Keep following that road straight down, then you’ll take a right towards the end, and then another right which leads directly to the plane crash site. Luckily the exact route is listed on All Trails!
12:00 Right main landing gear.
Have you ever checked out the elan school right outside Portland?
I have not yet-but it’s been on my list for ages now! I’ve heard security is quite strict there, so unfortunately I’ve been a bit wary about exploring it haha. Someday!
@@j-mass I’ll be honest I think the security thing is just too scare people off.
I went there one night and staid for about 6 hours. During that time like 3 or 4 different groups of high schoolers showed up at varying points lol.
It seems too be a very commonly visited spot. Still in relatively decent condition all things considered.
Pretty sure you only have to worry about people living near by calling the cops if your loud or disruptive.
@@j-mass or maybe we got lucky lol
Ahh gotcha, thanks so much for the tip bro, I appreciate that! I know a lot of spots “threaten” security as a countermeasure, even if there really isn’t much. Hoping to get out there soon!
Well that is cool
B52 from westover in Maine
I have been to this crash site years ago, I grew up very close to this location and still live in the area.
The main reason why it was left there is cause he thought it crashed in the water and sunk so they never bothered looking for it, it wasnt found until way later
Interesting point, that makes sense!
4:56 Well, he survived physically. I'm willing to bet his career suffered moderate to severe injury. In the Navy they call ejecting "ringing the admiral's doorbell", because you have to stand tall for the man and explain why you just disposed of many, MANY millions of taxpayer dollars of equipment! *_NOT_* a pleasant experience.
I was just here yesterday filming a video...did I miss you?
Haha, you missed me by just two days! I filmed this video last Saturday morning.
@@j-mass Nice work!! I didnt get to the jet...
You’ll have to next time! I’ve been to Dana Common three times now, and only made it over this third time!
I've been here! Cool site and anyone in the area should swing on and check it outpleust please be respectful and dont steal 😊
1:17 _All_ the way back? In the dim mists of ancient history of not quite 1000 days ago? 🤣
I strongly suggest that if you're going to be in the woods that time of year you wear a safety vest. There are a discouraging number of injuries and deaths when hunters just pulled the trigger when they see something move because they only expect deer. Hate for you too suffer a mischief brother!
You need to get your Mass pronounciations down: Peters-em and Gren-itch
It can be confusing to be fair! Greenwich is spelled “Greenwich”, so I figured the “W” was not silent!
😅 Yeah, those names can be a bit of a chore. After I got out of the Navy I want up in Gulf Coast Texas, trying to pronounce Humble (umbull), Atascocita (I kept calling it atascotia, like Nova Scotia) & Refugio (reefureeyoh). Family and coworkers found it very entertaining. 😹
pisses me off, why is the sight left like this .. if you crash "your" plane it is up to you to clean the site. the government should have cleaned this site many years ago.
Cost/benefit analysis: the scrap value was less than the cost of recovery. I don't disagree that it would be preferable to not leave trash lying around, but I can understand that there's only so much tax money to go around, and I don't want my taxes going up anymore than anybody else does. 🤷
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