Clutch Hub poor lubrication and Anti Judder Spring essential

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  • Опубліковано 18 чер 2015
  • We see how the oil holes in the hub have not been feeding enough oil to carry the worn lining material clear of the working faces of the steel and friction plates. This has built up into an abrasive paste in the case of the friction plates which acts against the aluminium flanges of the hub and pressure plate. Gives the impression of a burnt out abused clutch but its simply down to poor design.
    Also shows the function of the anti judder spring, its seat and the special plate its hosed within.
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  • @kinguin7
    @kinguin7 7 років тому +3

    Thanks for explaining the function of the anti-judder spring!

  • @nanbill2006
    @nanbill2006 8 років тому +1

    excellent video and well explained part of fitting a clutch properly, thanks mate.

  • @naveedaka
    @naveedaka 5 років тому +1

    sir....thanks for the explaination of anti judder spring....loved your videos...thanks sir

  • @indiYmoto
    @indiYmoto 5 років тому +1

    Actual working of anti judder spring is to separate the the steel and friction plates from each other when the bike is parked overnight, they stick together and when you start the bike put the first gear with the clutch on it still jumps, to eliminate this, they are used.

  • @naveedaka
    @naveedaka 4 роки тому +1

    thanks a lot ....awesome info

  • @Scablands_Scavenger
    @Scablands_Scavenger 6 років тому +1

    Interesting..... I found this video while researching how to eliminate the Judder spring in a 250cc dual sport. I heard you say 1200cc is this for a road bike ? The main complaint with these on Dual sports is that in off road riding they allow too much slipping ( off road ) of the clutch plates causing them to overheat and wear prematurely, as well as give a feeling of lack of power. The general consensus ( regarding Dual Sport bikes) is that they are good for beginning riders new to dual sport riding to help them not stall the bike, and they take some of the shock out of shifting on road ( not my words just what I have read etc) So I would be interested in your opinion of this ? Do you think it reasonable to want to remove this if your sole purpose is increasing performance for off road riding when rear wheel hookup is more important than a smooth clutch engagement...Oh and one more thing I suppose, does it make a difference when this is used in a hydraulic system as compared to a cable type clutch ? thanks for the video and thanks for the time .

    • @sharealike1
      @sharealike1  6 років тому +2

      Interesting question. These anti judder springs soften the take up of the clutch. The anti judder spring pushes in the other direction to the main pressure spring typically for the last 0.3 mm of pressure plate movement. The result is that your pressure plate springs will not have quite such a firm clamp on the friction plate that the anti judder spring is housed in. So a clutch with say ten friction plates might be only getting full pressure spring load to the first nine. The tenth plate receiving less clamping pressure. I would say its fair to assume you might only be able to carry and extra 5% of the clutches maximum torque with the anti chatter spring removed. That cold well be the difference between a biting clutch that holds the engine load and one that slips and wears itself out prematurely. I typically find that anti shudder springs ever so slightly reduce the overall torque capacity of the clutch because the friction plate they are housed in wears it's friction linings. The problem in the clutch shown here is that the anti judder spring is so weak compared with the main pressure spring that its hardly effective. The anti judder friction plate, with only half the lining area of a normal plate is expected to work as hard as one with full friction linings. The lack of oil to it further adding to its woes and short life.
      Cable can bind if damaged or corroded so can stop the pressure plates full load reaching the plate pack. Same if cable adjusted without any free play. Hydraulic less likely to suffer any of these as most are self adjusting and no cable to corrode or damage. Hydraulic better mechanical advantage so nice light feel to the lever.

  • @jasoncarthew2279
    @jasoncarthew2279 Рік тому

    I changed my clutch with a spare one in my shed but now my bike judders back and forth as I let the clutch out but bike drives fine tho once I let go of the clutch. You think mabe the clutch I put in didn't have any judder springs ?

  • @zzzpip
    @zzzpip 6 років тому

    excellent thanks

  • @RevvedUpBiker
    @RevvedUpBiker 7 років тому

    I've found out my clutch has been missing the judder spring seat. Just ordered need parts.

    • @terryasselstine6879
      @terryasselstine6879 6 років тому

      RevvedUpBiker hello, where did you order the spring and plates from? Thanks.

  • @playstore6528
    @playstore6528 2 роки тому

    Honda GL max 124cc also have judder spring, Better to keep it installed or not?

    • @johnbruzzi4381
      @johnbruzzi4381 2 роки тому

      It depends what you are looking for, you don't need, he doesn't know racing. Without it makes it more positive clutch

  • @db1988
    @db1988 2 роки тому

    Not every clutch pack has that in there actually most do not have it in there

  • @db1988
    @db1988 2 роки тому +1

    Throw that spring in that small clutch plate in the garbage and put a regular clutch plate in there that small clutch plate and that Jetta spring causes the Honda clutch to slip throw those things in the trash and put one regular plate in there done