DISCLAIMER: The % I did regarding the locked content a new player will have is WRONG! I counted it as a PC player without the console characters, so the error margin is around 5% for the total! I wanted to talk about a topic that, for some reason, almost nobody talks of in the community, and that's how TERRIBLE the new player experience is for Dead By Daylight. Back when the game was still fresh and the content was small, this was not a big deal. DbD was a scary experience, and not knowing anything is part of the charm. Nowadays, with the introduction of the aggresive SBMM, Dead By Daylight is far from a "casual" experience. With over 35 killer powers to learn, each with 20 addons to choose from, 255 perks that can alter the match, maps with RNG generation and veterans with thousands of hours of experience, Dead By Daylight is not beginner friendly. The issue I find is that the game's core is becoming simplified in terms of mechanics, when the game itself is already easier than League, Valorant or any other true competitive game. What DbD needs is to become BEGINNER FRIENDLY, and it's ridicuouls how the Mobile version of Dead By Daylight is significantly more noob friendly than the pc and console version of the game. The tutorial is horrible and this video will prove it, the grind and perk unlock system is daunting and unrewarding for the vast majority of casuals, and the scam of secrets is an insult that only exists as a scapegoat for this game not to be accused of "pay 2 win" when it already has pay 2 win mechanics in the means of "Pay 2 Skip" If you are a veteran, and you played with someone you wanted to introduce into the game, you probably noticed how many things you take for granted that are very confusing for new players. Like 99% the gates, where generators spawn, how items work, killer powers and counters.... I hope this video is useful to prove how bad the casual experience of DbD is if you don't play this game every week and are up to date with the reworks and changes killer powers have, like the future Twins update.
As someone who's not ready to play matches outside of custom games yet (started in November) this is so true. I think more content that helps new players learn about Perks, Killers and Fundamentals would be great.
I introduced 3 people to dbd they said - gens are very boring - perks are confusing (they all equipped random crap) - the game itself gets boring fast - they complained about all the cool (licensed) characters they see ads for are all pay to play - they also didn’t understand non-licensed stuff behind paywalls when you have to buy the game - one of them said “since they wanna monetize like a mobile game they could at least let me watch ads to try the payed sh*t” 💀💀
Truee my brother said the same thing that’s it’s freaking boringg it’s repetitive and gens aren’t fun I really do hope someday bhvr can do something about that but I doubt it Maybe the game modes would help?
you should introduce them to identity V then. its basically the chinese version of dbd, free on mobile and pc, much less grinding and only the newest character is locked behind a paywall, and only for a week. and unless you want to gacha for skins its completely f2p. its also much faster paced, so gens only take half the time they take in dbd, making them less boring, and perks are locked to survivors, meaning they actually have uses besides simply being cosmetics.
Things I, a 2000 hour player, learned from this video: -Xenomorph can detect you if you run while they are tunneling -Xenomorph disables turrets near the tunnel it comes out of -Trickster has a combo mechanic (???) -Wesker has less cooldown the more survivors he infects -Singularity has a longer overclock the more survivors are slipstreamed I think that demonstrates just how bad the problem is LOL
@@JustRhysky A short timer, counting how many consecutive knives you hit that then adds up and extends your next Main Event by a few seconds depending on how good your "combo" was!
Here's another cool info about xenomorph: His killer instinct reveal when he emerges from tunnel has the SAME range as the aura radius of tunnels. If you can see the aura of the control station, that means xenomorph will be able to detect you upon emerging.
I can confirm as a new player I’m either getting slaughtered by killers in two minutes or watching the killer roam the entire map and never finding anyone
If you're being slaughtered very fast it's probably being unfamiliar with the map. Either spend a lot of time in custom games to learn them or invest in getting Kate for the windows of opportunity perk so you can see vaults and pallets. Also don't play as tall characters or bright characters if you want to not be spotted constantly. They unfortunately removed a lot of the base fog in the game so killers can see you across most maps now
@GodWorksOut hahaha yeah reaching rank 1 has always been a rough turning point for killers and survivors. It hits hard when suddenly a lot of your games turn very difficult
@@GodWorksOut this isnt to undermine ur progress in any way (proud of u for putting that time in to hit rank 1) but i wouldnt exactly use rank as a means to determine skill level in dbd, unfortunately the rank doesnt correlate to what rank ur teammates and the killer will be (u can be rank 1 and get all rank 20 teammates) this is due to the game revolving around a hidden mechanic known as mmr which increases for ur escapes and decreases when u die this could explain why at times u go against 3 good killers in a row or 2 and get rolled then the game after get a really noobie killer. not to mention they removed "deranking" which would be if ur pips are at 0 and u get -1 pip the following game youd drop a rank, yeah that doesnt exist anymore and u cant actually derank you will only lose pips till u go to 0 then the following depip has no effect. its unfortunate as all the rank is there for is the bloodpoint reward. the reason you likely faced harder killers is the mmr increasing due to more escapes goodluck otherwise
One of the main problems is 90% of the free survivor and killer perks are absolutely useless or offer little value. I get it they're not supposed to be too crazy or op but perks like Kindred and Deja Vu are perfect mix for someone who's new or very casual
Beginners still have the free killers and survivors they can get perks from, but survivors have significantly better free teachable perks than killers If you really want to win as killer you're kind of forced to pay, because Agitation + (nerfed) Sloppy butcher + NOED + Nurses calling can only get you so far against survivors with optimized builds
@shuiinii9181 agreed, and if you work for a living, you aren't going to be able to buy anything for the longest time, meaning you are going to lose alot and once the next broken thing is out your going to lose more as you cant buy them right off the bat but everyone else will
For killer yes, but not survivor. The only thing you have to pay for as survivor currently for meta is Windows and an Anti Tunnel perk, other than that base game has survivors covered pretty well. Sprint Burst, Adrenaline, Prove, Deja Vu, Sabotage, Kindred, you can get some really good builds.
One of the biggest issues is how the game goes out of its way to avoid explaining the “killer in chase” icon with the wiggling tendrils on the character portraits. This is a VITAL indicator for survivors that no one seems to know about aside from those lucky enough to see the loading screen tip. Soooooo many times I have seen the auras of survivors half way across the map hide in lockers the SECOND they hear a minimum terror radius even though I’ve clearly been in chase for a minute and a half Legit I’ve met players who went HALF A YEAR not knowing this. We need a PSA or something
For the first few hundred hours I put into this game, I didn't understand that bottom left UI at ALL. I did not understand what the obsession was, I didn't understand why it wiggled sometimes or why the wiggles were smaller or larger. I didn't understand thats wherre killer powers were shown for prigress. I mean the game just gives you 0 indecation outside those small tooltips on truly how to understand that UI at all. Don't even get me started on status effects and how long those took me to figure out... especially when most of them are NOT intuitive at all and whatever you assume the effect would be based on the picture isn't that at all.
@@GanjjaCat the status effects complaint is so real. other than exhaust and broken, there is no way for you to know what the other ones do unless you play killer.
As soon as i saw the mechanic come out my brain went "that looks like the thing when the obsession is being chased" and was almost immediately proven right when i was being chase. Also @imdva isn't there an instruction section for survivors, killers and general play somewhere in the help tab? Any time i was confused about a status i went there. Please correct me if it doesn't exist anymore
Whenever i face people as a twins main, if the game is going horribly because i can recognize people don't understand the mechanics, i show people what they can do just so they have some understanding of how to counter them, like victor being able to jump over through windows, over pallets, and the fact they can't leave with victor on there back, im going to continue my twins teaching when the rework happens
@@MintSkull I remember I started to main Twins very early too, and I do remember that survivors did not understand the power at all . Even now with more than 1,5k hours some survivors still don't know about the Victor exit gate blocking mechanic.
Every time I face twins (once in 3 months) one of my EXPERIENCED teammates died to VictorWarden because they just don't know it exists and that you should NOT teabag victor on the gates
Imagine trying to learn all of the perks, killer powers, items, and addons at this point as a brand new player. even just thinking about it makes me exhausted, it'd be easier to learn a new language
Just started earlier this week. I was googling beginner tips, and I came across a reddit thread. One user wrote: "Survivor Tip - Know all the maps and all of the killer perks." Like... super helpful bro. Just know everything? That's all? Great...
Yeah the game isn’t beginner friendly when half the rounds are toxic swf and 85% od characters you have to pay for. Cant even imagine starting dbd nowadays
Same, I was lucky that I started in 2016, because I would not recommend this game to anyone nowadays despite how much I love it due to how daunting the new experience is.
I've always had the game but I started playing last year and just got back into it recently during blood moon, I'm honestly probably as addicted now as most players were at its peak. I just have fun most of the time when looping, and the rare occasion I get owned its honestly whatever 🤷. I really like this game and it's mechanics are still fresh to me
I started playing around Chucky's release and I now have every single character in the game prestige 3 or over about 5 months later. I bought most of the DLCs during the Christmas sale and spent slightly over 100€ total. That being said, I fully agree this game isn't beginner friendly for casual players. However, if you are willing to commit a lot of your free time to playing this game and spending a bit of money on it, then it's... Fine. You could probably unlock everything on everyone playing semi-casual/semi-hardcore in less than a year. I wish it weren't this inaccessible, but that's the unfortunate reality. Edit: P.S. I had a little over 1000 hours total after finishing the grind (that includes spending a lot of time afk in the game lobby).
i recently restarted on my ps4 (since there's no cross progression 🙃) and i got out very easily using all base game perks. it's just practice and skill.
I can't believe that the dead by daylight mobile tutorial is better, they literally show you how meg is looping trapper like a God and wasting the killer time, better than me I'd say, I wish they show us more about how pallets can be used in the pc tutorial, same for vaults❤
Absurd how the mobile version of the game is miles ahead than console DbD, the only issue is that the monetization is indeed taking advantage of the fact it's a Free 2 Play game on mobile
@@MintSkull I highly prefer dbd mobile over the real game 🤷 it’s FREE and I can be ass at the game and still have fun aka not dying at 4-5 gens and feeling like I’m not getting any better at all.
I'm a new player, like a really new player, I've just started playing a couple of days ago because my friends wanted me to, and it intrigued me. And, I just want to have fun. This is a video game, not professional Olympics. And being a new player sucks, everyone gets mad at you when you do something "stupid", it's one of the worst feelings to be trying your best and have a good time, just to be met with never ending toxicity from the players around you. And to feel so lost and overwhelmed with how many perks there are and all of the strange techniques the fans have developed in the game. I really want to enjoy this game, I really do, but it just feels so very difficult to do!
Man so true. I’ve been playing for 2 weeks and there’s too much powers and perks involved in this game. I think if the game was more simple it would be more fun.
As a full time single parent if 2 and a casual gamer I have just starting playing this game and ism already starting to get P##### O## with this game. Iam starting to feel like either playing as a surviver or a killer iam getting picked on either getting smashed or getting rings run around me and iam starting to not enjoy the game. Also iam a Switch player and it's crazy how much more the DLC cost way more then the actual game it's crazy. I will keep trying to play the game but it's getting to a point where iam not looking forward to turning the game on anymore but I will keep trying for now.
@huwjones6644 as a full time son of a single parent of 2 and after having 1000 hours sunk into dbd i can tell you that there are better and cheaper ways to spend your down time than this videogame.
I think the whole horror game feel should be kept, but also a way to make it more fair to new players; Have a glossary be updated depending on perks you run into, or already have. This makes it so the first encounter with a Killer or perk, the Mystique of the Killer and perk can be kept, but also gives the survivor the information they need to get better and understand the game a lot more. I think the game should strive for both. Otherwise, the game is a sweatfest, and nothing more.
So for example: Let's say that I encountered a killer that has a perk like No One Escapes Death, that gets added on the glossary on what it does. Am I getting this right?
Somehow, the Mobile version has this. The game teaches you about perks and killers after a match and give you BPs for reading about it. I still impressed that some resources in mobile are not available on Core
as an ex-veteran of the game (stopped playing around 2021), I learned more from this video than having played a few matches, as well as having re-done the tutorial. whilst I have been able to quickly adapt to a lot of the changes due to my previous experience with the game, there are still things that are left un answered, that I would have to go out of my way in order to find out, when the game itself could easily and quickly explain it, such as how big the radius is for the whole anti-camping mechanic is. What should be done are these things; -Make two types of tutorials, a beginner tutorial, and an advanced tutorial, with the advanced one showing more technical things like looping, the anti-camping mechanic in more detail, totems (although this should be in the beginner one), etc. -Make a tutorial for every killer, showcasing each killers power from both the survivor and killer perspective within the same guide. This is a lofty task to get done for BHVR, but is incredibly important in teaching some of the fundementals of the game. Nurse has a completely different playstyle from say Onryo, and with the current system can easily get confusing. As someone who back in 2018 picked The Nurse without knowing I even had a power, that ended up being a very interesting match. -Keep the game manual, but include short videos showcasing what's being talked about, and mention EVERYTHING. Every status effect, briefly explain what every killers power does, explain when the anti-kick feature kicks in (no pun intended), etc. This can get confusing, but this is a game manual, it should include everything. -Possibly mention the community made content, encouraging people to go out and watch other people play the game. Doesn't have to mention anyone specifically, but could mention for instance the Fog Whisperer program and that they are "verified" content creators for the game, as in they are endorsed by the developers, and be like "hey, this is the fog whisperer icon, keep an eye out for it". -Make a tutorial for the menus, showcasing how loadouts work, the rift, shop, etc. This can be figured out easily be the player themselves, but would be a short and simple tutorial to get anyone up to speed. Could also explain things like the currencies.
Heavy agree, especially with the tutorial for every killer since it could also allow for new players to figure out what killers they would want to save up for/buy immediately first!
@@JustRhysky that too, absolutely. ultimately, I think BHVR should either; A) make all non-licensed killers free for everyone or B) make the base game free for everyone with option A being the superior option for us consumers. paying 20$ only to get about 30% of the characters in the game is just bad, and we are well past the age of both selling the game for a price and then spending upwards of 5+ times that amount just to get the characters, not to mention cosmetics. I have a few friends who are thinking about getting into Dead By Daylight, but it's hard to recommend it to them when the 20$ buy-in price (a bit less on sales) is just a tiny amount compared to the in game purchases. there could be a third option, which would make all teachable perks available for everyone. this would include licensed perks too. how this would be implemented I'm not sure, and i know we have the shrine, but I have two ideas for this; either A) make a page with every teachable perk available for purchase, either with bloodpoints (like 300-500k per) or iridescent shards (1-2k per) or B) make the shrine of secrets a daily rotation and lower the price a bit regardless, the current system we have is flawed for anyone getting into the game, both in terms of tutorials but also just letting people play the damn game. at least by being able to try a killer out before purchase, you don't have to invest like 7$ just to see if that killer is worth it for you personally. I'm sure there's a decently sized group of people who would love to play, random example, Twins, but who just don't know it yet because they don't want to spend the money just to find out. (this ended up being way longer than I inteded it for, tl;dr make non-licensed characters free for everyone or at least make getting all teachable perks available for everyone at all times without needing to purchase the character first)
Crazy how ALL OF THESE FEATURES ARE IN MOBILE. Everytime you encounter a new perk the game gives you a brief overview about it and looking at it gives you blood points. The game recommends loadouts based on playstyles and the game has leaderboards where you can see what the best players are running.
The HUD not being explaining at all is criminal. When I started, I didn't know what the [obsession indicator] was, didn't know I could see if teammates were in chase, didn't know how to know how many gens/hatchets were left, at ALL that I was in deep wounds so didn't know why I suddenly went down, how much time was left in hook stages, etc. Also it's way under-mentioned that killer and survivors' main interaction buttons are totally different (left click vs space bar).
the item thing is so true. i had absolutely no idea what the flashlight was for, everything else was pretty much self explanatory. i rlly used to use flashlights to see better 😭
A lot of games you have to see what yoy do wrong or see be used in different way to understand. Could be better. The flashlight thing you said is straight noob hilarious though 😂
I have no idea how there are new players still coming into the game. You have to be a walking encyclopedia to understand the game, you have to be a walking wallet to afford all the content, and a walking punching bag to endure the torture of losing for hours
The only way DBD draws new player is probably from its plethora of Licenese. Maybe they saw their favorite horror characters get added and wanted to play as Michael Myers, Freddy, Dracula and possibly another Freddy in the future.
I came from watching some content creators play the game and pretty much got all the basics from watching. Also i just got every licensed killer and i'm waiting for the sale to get every licensed survivor, then just grind for the rest for free with shards. It is still pretty expensive though for sure.
I started playing in January of this year, around the time the game was promoting Chucky and Alan Wake iirc, after some friends got me into it. Since I was lucky enough to get it when it was free on Epic, I decided to try it. I've been playing and enjoying it for several months, and I thought I knew a good amount about it, but after watching this video, I learned several mechanics that I had no clue about, such as how the resolve meter doesn't appear in endgame. One thing that's pretty lame is the perk system. I'm the type of person who likes to try out many different builds, however, since I detest spending money on games after purchase, the game quickly showed me that I have very little option in variety until I unlock more characters. I'm currently at 241 hours according to Epic, and so far I've unlocked Kate, Vittorio, Felix, Jeff, and Rebecca (thanks to the generosity of a friend) for the survivors and only Legion and Clown for killers. Several of these characters I only chose to use my shards on for their perks, and even after all this time I still feel like my builds have very little variation: Gen Rush or Chase Help for survivors, and pretty much just Information with Sloppy for killers. I definitely feel as though that either many of the bad starting perks should get a rework to make them more useful or varied, or that the perks shouldn't be tied to characters.
Insane how little characters you have after investing 241 hours into this game. And I can't even imagine the lack of variety in terms of builds for casuals and new players. Also glad you learned something new!
I started playing on mobile around October and console in December and even though I’ve watched people play dead by daylight for years I still struggled to figure out a lot of mechanics, I have around 300 hours now and I’ve only unlocked a few characters (sad to admit I bought a few)for survivor and killer. I just started using flashlights and I had no idea you had to wait a bit to blind killers among so many other things🥲
Begginer experience: watched content creators for a while before getting the game itself, won most matches when I started playing because of the previous knowledge (and overall gaming experience), reached above begginer level MMR, imediately got stomped for several matches in a row by killers/survivors with multiple meta licensed perks
I can attest to this on the killer side: Had some prior experience thanks to playing on and off for like 2 hours in 2016-17 and Demi, stomped new players while trying my best to teach them what killers can do, and get screwed over the moment I get above average MMR because I have no perks against decent survivors with meta perks, or a SWF with 3-4 players, or a perk got changed since I last saw it (why is pop the weasel and sprint burst meta now)
update: as I got more perks including one or two meta perks, I was able to maintain a stable 30% winrate as survivor and 45% as killer, the experience gap is still high as I have a little under 200 hours on the game whist constantly competing with lvl 100 characters my oponents bring. Thankfully, I only get occasionally stomped nowadays and am currently working on bringing my winrate to a stable 50%+ on both sides as I am finally on a semi-equal playing field as my opponents
I started playing 2-3 weeks ago (only 3 survivors Prestige 1) and honestly didn't find it too bad so far. Matches are very stompy from either side but generally i realized that i die more often if I try to help teammates who are struggling more, since they tend to abandon you even if you stay to help them. If I play with just escaping myself in mind I escape 3 out of 4 games with mid builds. The game where I die the killer 4ks us with 5 gens still up. Cant win every game so idm. Gonna try Killer next but from playing a few customs with 4 friends I'm probably in for a shit time lol
As a new player who pnly picked the game up abour a month or two ago I got super lucky with how my first few games went. Started the game with the intent of being a killer main, and the first few games I got some absolute angels playing as survivor. Think they figured I was a baby killer so they started showing me all the pallet and loop areas, even let me get 2 hooks before they escaped. That interaction got me addicted so fast, I even got some encouraging messages from people giving me advice on how to be a better killer. I can see how this game could be very overwhelming for new players, I mean shit I had no clue what I was doing, but after a day or two you start to learn that you only really need certain perks for certain killers and not every single perk in the game, thinking like that is what nakes ut feel overwhelming in the first place.
The existing tutorial is fine for quickly teaching basic controls, but it definitely doesn't prepare players for an average match. At the very least they should cover totems, chests, and items, because those will be in literally every match. But honestly, I think the best option for BHVR would just be to leverage community resources; link to Otz and other fog whisperers videos, or even have an in-game video player. Contract them to make new videos, too. I'm sure many would be happy to.
@@muysli.y1855 DOTA and CS:GO have in-game web browsers and video players as well. It wouldn't be super difficult for BHVR to implement, it's probably very simple with Unreal Engine.
Hot take: They should add a brown flashlight that can't blind the killer with 80 charges just so people can suffer and light the hallways of dark maps.
I wish they would have had an actual looping instruction. The mechanics of the structures and how to run them. There's also no mention of killer/survivor speed which is why new players just hold w!
As someone who recently started playing myself, being a new player is terribly unfun. Primarily because of how overwhelming the system is (plus sweaty players). Trying to understand, perks, and killer abilities is absolutely mindnumbing for someone just getting in. And then when you inevitably look up perk lists on UA-cam/online for a good perk set, half if not all the perks you have to pay for. And those seldom come from the same character, meaning that you have to sink additional money into this game that you already paid for. Do I even need to talk about the grinding? There, done, rant over.
yes, exactly. you basically need someone who already plays to help you, and even then, you wont have a lot of fun because you'll likely hold the team back, or even throw the game.
@@thekiddshow yes exactly! If it weren’t for my friends, there’s no way I’d be into the game. We started playing in custom lobbies, so there’s less pressure, but it was still rough starting out for sure; especially when I started doing online ques.
Remember when the p2w topic was brought up and the major communities just called it stupid and bs cause new players arent at a disadvantage apperantly. This playerbase does not like the new player experience from what ive seen
As a recent beginner, i totally agree that I couldn’t care less about what/who is good or op. I want to actually understand what I and other people are doing and can do. Often times I can’t completely understand the killers’ powers. Take Myers for example: From my perspective he just looks at me for some time, which seems like a killer is just trying to be friendly and not attacking. Then he one-shots me. That is moderately easy to get behind. But then another myers has a totally different build and his ability changes because of that and now I’m lost all over again. I don’t have myers, I can’t play him (unless I pay money). I can’t learn all of his perks and how they work. And that’s not even to mention that he can rock any other perks from any other killer I don’t have and I that will be even more confusing And that’s just one of many examples
I remember playing DBD mobile years ago I bought the nurse because i saw a video of it being op then I lost every game because I didn't know you can hit someone right after blinking
A game like Deep Rock Galactic handles all of this so much better. For anyone who doesn't know, Deep Rock Galactic or DRG is a 4 person co-op shooter where you play as these Dwarfs who work for a space mining company, where you travel to a planet to mine resources and shoot aliens. In that game, there are many different things you can upgrade for your dwarfs, such as the primary weapons, secondary, throwables, utility tools etc. But the difference here is that all the upgrades can ONLY be unlocked via playing the game. There is no paying your way out of it. You spend a good amount of money buying the game and then the rest is up to you to unlock. The only dlc there is is purely cosmetic, and it doesn't add anything else than you just looking cool. Plus there is also cosmetics you can earn via just playing the game. If DBD made it so that it was free, or a lot of old content was free, then maybe the grind would be a little less punishing.
the ugly truth for new players are the insane amount of perks und killers. This is too much and frustrating. I play since 2016 and many of my friends, i tried to convince quiting after few hours.
I had 2 friends who had never played dbd before pick up the game this year when The Unknown released. They haven't really cared about any grind and have been genuinely enjoying their time playing, and they improve with each and every match. One is on PC and the other is on Xbox so I get to see how both of them have been improving and they've gone down different paths, but it still leads to them having fun playing
I remember when I started playing, I didn’t understand how perks and prestige system work. And the wrost part is, my console wasn’t in english but in my native language and THE TRANSLATION IS TRASH SO EVEN BY READING EVERYTHING, IT DIDNT MAKE SENSE.
I didn't even mention translations! They are indeed not very well translated for languages that are not English / Spanish, and some of my viewers will remember the "butt smeller" translation of Trapper
I'm a relatively newish player! I started playing DBD around November of 2023, almost December if I recall correctly. Fell in love with it and have been playing casually on/off since. I learned about the game from a friend who was actually a hardcore veteran, and wanted to get me into it. For more context, I still have not paid a single cent towards DBD other than when I bought the base game. I am a shards-only player, and have always had a consistent 0 auric cells since I started. I also wanna note that I am a 50/50 player. I will often play solo Q survivor, or play as a random killer. (I don't have a particular killers I like more, I like trying different killing styles a lot). I don't pick one side since I like playing as both about evenly. When I first started playing DBD, I was pretty terrified of everything. I went to the in-game tutorials and learned the basic goals of gameplay. And that was basically it. I actually had no idea what perks were for the longest time, or how to equip items. Those were things that took me days to learn from just the menu UI alone. It took me even longer to learn about kinks in killer powers or tactics to looping a killer which I'm still not very good at anyway. I think what made me suck so much in the beginning was just how even in my first few matches as the noob dwight/meg, I was overwhelmed with everything. I didn't know what the UI of my teammates indicated, and I was going against advanced killers that brought hex perks. (It took me about a month or 2 to learn what hex totems were and how they work). For instance I still remember my first game against a Myers. When he reached tier 3, I thought the exposed icon meant I was having my location given to Michael at all times. And it wasn't too long after that I encountered my first Tombstone combo Myers. You should've seen my face when I thought the Myers was just being friendly, and then he started instant-mori'ing my unharmed teammates, and I immediately thought he was hacking lol. That's when I finally learned how significant addons can really be for killers. It's like a whole different game depending on the addons man. I wish I had learned more about those kind of things so I could not be sitting there feeding a Myers who I thought was just being friendly. The tutorials really do need to get good and explain things better in terms of side effects or states. Things like deep wound, exposed, hindered, blindness, etc. All of that should be explained in better detail in the tutorials instead of just learning the mostly hard way by playing matches against sweat lords. Another thing is just how gate-kept I feel from being a better player. Even after these 6 months since I started playing DBD, I still mostly only have the basic characters. I have only unlocked 2 additional shard-purchased killers, and a handful of survivors for their teachable perks. I love watching DBD content and I would love to try my hand at different (GOOD) perks like decisive strike/flash grenade as survivor, or killer perks like save the best for last and friends to the end. But those kind of things are not viable for me to get because I refuse to spend my real money for auric cells. I feel like as of this post I have reached an intermediate understanding of DBD, but still don't know a lot about tactics used by killers/survivors, and I still don't fully understand every single killer's powers, even though I've played against all of them at least a few times. (Forget trying to learn the skull merchant's power since I only ever see them once every blue moon). The game is very very grindy and I only have so much time in my busy adult life to spend grinding for better perks. It very much feels like I have to pay to win, which I simply refuse to do.
When I started playing DBD( just before sadako came out). I learned basically everything from videos, I only played killer because survivor scared me at the time. I remember having a fun time when I was playing killer but I ended up deleting the game and not playing until the attack on titan Collab/dredge midchapter. I remember my biggest struggle was the perks, items and add-ons. It all just sounded like complete gibberish about what they did, changed or affected. I ended up just using perks because I felt like I had to. Even now after 1k hours i still pity all the new players because the climb is incredibly steep before getting a decent understanding of maps/variations, offerings, add-ons, powers, perks, items and status effects
ohhhh I also started playing before Sadako. I remember going against Artists and having plenty of Jonahs every trial. I kept asking my brother why people loved those characters and he told me it was a recent released chapter.
Forcing playing to look at the 100 characters perks as well. Recently I was confused why survivors would drop to the floor without bleeding out. Turns out it’s a Nicholas Cage perk.
I don't usually comment, but this is spot on. I downloaded the game literally 6 days ago and I can confirm that it is unbelievable confusing, I do enjoy the game because I really like the idea of it, but it really is not beginner friendly at all. Most of my games as a survivor go as follows: 1. Killers who are WAY above me and way too good for me to deal with, I get killed, spotted and destroyed easily, as I lack map awareness, no clue the perks, add ons or even the sacrificial thingy. 2. Afk killers who just do nothing, thus boring game. 3. Throwing killers, ones who just want to throw the game, again, no fun. I only have like 5 killers and honestly most of them are boring and repetitive, the good ones or interesting ones are behind a pay-wall. There is no communication in-game between the survivors, no voice or even text, simply 2 useless emotes, making coordinating actions way too difficult. Oh and my teammates either hide all game or wait for everyone to die to get the hatch lmao, I try to get gens, usually my average is 2 gens per game, but the killers are just too good and I lack knowledge to deal with them, I can't loop because I simply dk how to and even as a killer idk how to catch good loopers, the survivors I play against are usually, again, way too good for my level. It's just very frustrating, some killers will just camp the hook from a distance till you die, which is unbelievable frustrating, the whole unhooking meter thing is so useless and doesn't answer the issue with campers, likewise I find it very difficult to even escape, even if I get unhooked, escaping is just futile as I'll always be followed.
You've already said it in the past, BeHavior is a company, and like any company it is only interested in profits. Why would they waste resources improving the tutorial when they can use it for another Fen Ming skin?
I started this game pretty much 1 year ago when Tools of Torment was released. I started it for 2 reasons: 1. I am a big fan of good horror movies, so seeing Freddy, Myers, Bubba etc. in a game excited me 2. My brother plays it regularly and asked me several times to give it a try, which I eventually did I honestly think the beginning of DBD is the most fun as a survivor you'll have with this game. You honestly feel like in a horro movie. It's thrilling, it's amazing. I didn't care whether or not perk X or item Y where good. I only knew Feng Min is cute as hell and I liked her perks. I still think she is the best starter survivor and use 2 of her her perks in every match I play as a surv. It could not have bothered me less back then. I believe this thinking only starts when you truly understood the game, the killers and the perks to a basic degree. And then it is up for you to decide. DO you invest the time and money to get the juicy stuff or do you make due with what you have? Since this game helped me and my brother a lot in repairing our damaged relationship I gladly chose to spent time and money and still often have fun with him playing the game
Something that would really be nice is if iri shard gain was just a consistent number instead of resetting back to 65 shards a level after 100 levels so the grind could at least be slightly be less tedious
Since i'm a beginner in this game i would say this: Firstly shrine which is like you mintskull called scam of secrets, could be reworked for example: A perk that you already own will not show in shrine, simple and effective change. Second: The game itself, people play this game to win 99% of the time, so if you don't have map knowledge you will be killed all the time. Third: The tutorial thing, ehhhhhh if there was a thing to talk about it in this tutorial you get to know 1% of the game basically. The game will not tell you to repair a gen instead of unhooking the survivor immediately. Also the hooking stages were not explained in the tutorial (the manual is just essay of text in my opinion, which is good don't get me wrong but i'm more of a eye learner i need to see it to learn it) The killer powers, well yeah they're pretty bad explained as well, you need to go to the store page in order to see it when you don't have the killer unlocked which is crazy. The grind, i think the meme "Help me" tell you exactly what it feels like, i give behaviour huge thumbs up for the mascarade event and now 2v8 which are good to just enjoy something new and refreshing for a change (like Mathew said earlier in the days XD)
I played a lot of dbd back in 2017 and recently got back into the game this year. However, I decided to just leave the game alone cause the game is like a chore to me. Playing survivor and killer doesn’t feel as fun as it did back then, cause there’s so much competition it ruins it for me. Especially since they introduce skill based matchmaking, with the new prestige system, there’s so much emphasis on grinding and competition. Maybe that’s just me, I figure a lot of people who play dbd nowadays likes the grind, and likes being challenged. But for a casual player like me, dead by daylight is completely out of my league now.
I tried picking up the game a month ago, I quit 2 weeks afterwards; - 50% because every 3rd or 4th survivor game was a killer sitting in the middle of the map afk farming bloodpoints, the match where I brought in double pink addons for the fun of it and got another gen slowdown Doctor was the breaking point for my uninstall - 20% because the difficult part of the game (the looping) was actively detrimental to success to seek to practice and required several minutes to get into a chase just for me to make a mistake and get instantly downed most of the time, then have to wait 5-10 minutes to get into a new chase in a new game. I will say the times I didn't immediately screw everything up was really enjoyable, decently stretched out chases - 20% because it wasn't fun to play, I still remember the names of 2 knight players, the only knight players I've fought, who only played the game by downing one person and camping that slug for 4 minutes, on top of regular tunneling and the anti-camping unhook feature being next to worthless - 10% because I had to grind so much to get teachable perks for the build I wanted Playing killer was really fun though, but then again, I never reached a point in which I was playing against survivors that my fps experienced aim on Huntress didn't carry me past
I tried getting my Best friend into the game, but its impossible. You have to be REALLY into the genre of game to enjoy it enough that you push through the sludge and try to enjoy it.
Good points! It's very hard to recommend DBD to new people, and it can be hard for even some casual players to keep up, when there are so many perks, killers, etc. to remember. And with the way tutorials and some explanations are, learning the game basically boils down to "fuck around and find out". Some people don't want to or have time to do that for hundreds of hours just to be decent at a game. Speaking of tutorials and learning about how different killers work, one thing I dislike about the game is the fact that there's no way to try out killers you don't own without purchasing them first or playing in the PTB that's up for a limited time. Just reading or watching how a killer works is one thing and experiencing them another. Besides updating the tutorial/manual to be more in depth with visual aids, I think it would be pretty cool to have a little trial game available for each killer where you get to try out killers and their powers, that'd be nice for both old and new players alike. They could have a "Try out!" button in the shop next to the characters or something. And if you could purchase perks separately, you wouldn't have to buy a killer you don't like or care about just to have their perks unlocked.
i remember the old tutorial having a good amoount of this missing info, telling the player about self healing, the basement, and chests. and for the killer tutorial you actually had to wait out the hook states (granted you didnt hook them all immediately) and the meg bot did kinda loop you to a degree. somehow like the old tutorial almost did better, or at least covered more topics. granted the game had a lot fewer mechanics at the time.
the scam of secrets is an absolute ridiculous mechanic, only 4 perks per week when there is over two hundred perks in the game, there's literally no reason to not give us a store where you can just buy the perks you want
If it weren't for youtube vids explaining the game to me, I would have refunded it. The game's ability to teach itself might have been sufficient when everyone was new, but now that 95% of the community is experienced, trying to figure stuff out in-game isn't fun. I wish I could: practice in maps against all the AI killers, practice against AI survivors that don't wall hack with perfect map knowledge, and just be able to walk around maps to learn them outside of matches.
I gave up on understanding some killer powers. The worst one is that I still don't get how to solve Pinhead's box when a chain hunt is after you. I read somewhere to dodge 3 chains and then you get a short time to solve it, that you need to let the chains hit you and break them all together, that you need to do it behind cover, that someone has to assist by blocking the chains from hitting you, etc. I gave up on figuring it out and just hope for the best on the off chance that he shows up in a match🤞 I gave up understanding Skull merchant too. But at least that one is (hopefully) entirely personal from her 3gen era that I have not recovered from. Even after months, it's still too soon for me and I accept that.
That's pretty much it for Pinhead, either dodge the chains or hide behind some cover (and if they're running Impaling Wire, break the chains manually) but usually you wanna solve the box before the chain hunt activates
Absolutely, I can’t believe they trivialized flashlight saves, that was literally one of the most satisfying things to do in that game now you just get it for free as long as you’re there when a survivor is being picked up
@@kim_yong_un it's grabbing up every license it possibly can, and they're getting them. It won't be a hard sell anymore to bring in an IP, and I'm hoping for "Thir13en Ghosts" with The Jackal and Dennis Rafkin (Matthew Lillard)
12:22 this is so true, I dont even have all my characters prestiged yet, but I play in the highest mmr with consisten p100 players and am able to keep up with the majority of them because I watch a lot of dbd content. That literally shows that just knowledge about the game alone can increase your skill level tremendously
I agree with most of your points but the hug tech and chucky flick were exploits and were borderline uncounterable they deserved removal after their respective ptbs
I won't debate Chucky flicks because I myself had very little experience against it (Plus, I think scamper is the worst issue with his kit!) but Hug Techs were not as broken in my opinion, since only the best of the best blights were able to do the crazy hug techs, and most Blights only knew the basic ones, which are, in my personal experience, easy to counter compared to Blight using speed addons to rush you normally!
I play on console unfortunately and whenever I face a pc blight With a £20 skin on doing hug techs and 260° flicks just makes me wanna DC same with oni there's nothing fair about hug techs i don't think its an very impressive play to break the game to get an advantage
one thing that other games do with tutorials is have a simple tutorial for the very basics of the game, like controls and objectives, and then advanced or extra things in a extra optional tutorial, which would be a good help. Things like status effects, perks, items, totems/hex perks, etc woule be good to show. Rocket racing in fortnite does this and it was actually really helpful for me to learn the game before jumping in
I feel this, my wife recently upgraded from Nintendo switch to PC. All of her characters and progress was non-transferable and she had to start all over again, buy everything again. It's ridiculous.
Honestly, it’s such a shame that a game in 2024 doesn’t have cross platform transfer. It’s ridiculous. If The COD devs can do it.. one of the most notorious greed cows in gaming, than there should be no reason it’s not present here.
My favorite tooltip in the loading screen is when the game tells you to throw down pallets so you can “create a diversion”, as if randomly slinging a pallet down will instantly make the killer stop what they’re doing to run over to you, and that somehow being a good use of a pallet. Also, a lot if the bloat and confusion you’re talking about is only gonna get worse as Behaviour continues to pump new content into this nearly 10 year old game, I haven’t played in like a year and there’s already a mountain of new perks and killers I’ve never interacted with before and the only way you can catch up to speed on a lot of this stuff is by studying the wiki like you have a fucking test in two days, it’s kinda absurd
Glad i wasnt the only one who thought exposure was like an aura effect when i started, lmao. Also, for some reason, I thought Insidious would make me invisible. So you can just imagine this huge ass Nemesis standing on the edge of fuckin Sheltered Woods waiting for a survivor to pass, lmao
I feel like dbd should take notes from fighting games and drop a extended gameplay video for new killers and survivors that explains each new power up and how effective they are in certain situations this could also be a way for them to explain why they added these abilities in the first place and there philosophy behind these moves
Not saying it's a bad idea, but as a fg player myself this has not really been a thing (and still isn't with most fighting games) there are a few games that do this. But even if they do, at that point you might as well look online for tips and such instead of looking at an official (not very in-depth) guide?
I think the only reason I enjoyed my first few matches of dbd and the reason I kept playing it was because I had already consumed dbd content so I knew it could be good
The exposed one is me🖐️! When I first used Noed i legit though that it would reveal all survivour aura when the last gen pops, was disappointed and ended up not using the perk to this day. I just wanted aura reveal perks huhuhu😭
im 35 mins in and while i do agree dbd is NOT beginner friendly, there's no such thing about this game that's grindy. this is the only game that isn't grindy in the slightest. getting bloodpoint is super easy, especially with the offerings. as long as you play the game, you will get bloodpoints, and you don't need a ton of bp to prestige.
I've been playing DBD since the game dropped, although I wasn't too into it back then now I have about 1K hours into DBD now, recently I played DBD with friends and man hearing everyone asking "what's this?" "what's that??", "I'm doing everything you did why am I dead already?", etc, etc.. I instantly noticed how overwhelmed new players must be, even if you buy all dlcs, watch hundreds of videos, use the strongest perks you can easily loose matches bc you still lack actual experience in the game, on average now it has to take at least 50-100 hours to understand a small portion of the game, another few hundred of hours to know how to loop killers and understand more perks and even more hours to continue learning more about the survivors and killers..hell even now I learned something new from these killers, it's just wayy to much for new players now :/
One thing that DBD should really do as well is make tutorials to introduce players to perk archetypes. Like Boons, Hex's, Teamwork, Scourge Hooks etc etc, cause giving barebones examples of games can do very little to inform a player of what their perk actually does, cause nine times out of then some players both survivor and killer will slap on a perk just because its new rather than read what it actually does. So Survivors would get a tutorial on how boons work and how its essential to get rid of hex's, obviously making it clear some hex's CAN be a trap cause of haunted grounds being a thing as well as informing them that some boons starting off aren't something to be concerned about, but at some point you need to find them. IE: Devour Hope. This type of stuff will give players a rough idea of what every type of perk can do or is capable off as well as gives them the opportunity to use them in a test scenario, which can usually 'if it was done right' lead to a purchase of a DLC because a player may like a specific perk archetype.
@@MintSkull Could you do a video about the farming servers blooming due to the BM event? Like how the farming was done & only Steam players benefit from the farms, whereas everyone on other platforms loses. Maybe Bhvr might do something, as the grind is mostly what keeps player retention
Great video. Sadly there are people and content creators who DEFEND p2w system and other bullshit like scum of secrets. For easy example - recently i complain about very lazy changes in the shop under dbd youtube posts, but people there DEFENDED their scum systems and that its OK to have hardcore paywalled content in already PAUED game. Times are bullshit. I miss good old 2000s when games were mostly games without milking them insanely and they were good. You didnt need to buy 100500 dlcs to be able to NORMALLY play the game.
Funny thing is in Dota 2 every character is free and only cosmetics are paid. In League u have to buy characters (with different prices) with either grind or IRL money but thanks to GamePass u can have every char unlocked aslong as u have the pass.
@@LeGeeked. so you’re saying the majority of gamers spend 10 hours playing games and spend money buying game pass ? If the answer is no That means most players are Average gamers
@@LeGeeked. Fighting games are actually the worst example of this because all fighting games die so quickly because average players have a miserable experience in those.
Like you said this has been their financial strategy since Myers DLC, put all good/fun perks behind a paywall, a year later (if you're lucky) it may be in the shrine and then shortly after it will be nerfed. I never bought a single DLC for this game or any game for that matter. Sure BHVR is scummy for doing it, but in reality the community is also at fault for buying the DLC and going along with this moneygrab in the first place.
It’s because casuals and noobs are seen in a negative way. “Skill issue” or “Just don’t be broke” are the things I hear the most when defending this game 😔
While I don't _disagree_ per-say, a large-scale live-service game that constantly adds content on a regular basis (some of it licensed which they _have_ to sell for real money-only, BHVR has no real control over that) then unless the devs are procedurally making older content free then it's pretty logical that the new player experience will be worse. I'm not disagreeing, the new player ladder _is_ getting worse as time goes on, just saying it's not surprising.
I really don't understand why the other versions of the game include more Survivors/Killers for free. In many cases, they include CRUCIAL Survivors/Killers, which perks that are near mandatory for newer players cause it helps them a ton.
@@MintSkull exactly! But at least in For Honor you are kinda good to go when you just get the Basics right meanwhile in DbD there are like 500 different things that can change each Match (Perks, Killer, Add Ons, Maps, Map RNG etc.)
Dude... i have 100 hours and I barelly have 6 perks from killers I dont have and 4 teachable survivor perks, and I still eat shit alot because I cant compete with the whales that already have all the meta perks and addons. When was this game noob friendly?
I started playing the game a few weeks ago and it feels like it’s going to take FOREVER to get all the perks and crap. I’m not made of money, so I will almost 100% never own all of the dlc. The shrine is a load of crap. I can’t avoid being tunneled because I can’t “just bring ds” which is dumb anyways because I shouldn’t have to take up a perk slot just to avoid being tunneled out at 5 gens. I don’t want to have to buy dlc for characters I don’t really care about just for a perk.
@@_piranha if we are talking about bad tutorials and people smurfing on fresh accounts its basically the same as DBD but everything gameplay wise u can unlock with lvl 10 and a 1€ Gamepass subscription just make a new email every month and u will have all champs.
Before i started playing i watched 1000 hours of otzdarva Now ive watched 5000 hours of dbd gameplay and i can easly 4k 20k swf or loop 10k killers I honestly recommend to just watch dbd and not play it, i couched a 30hr friend last week and ppl in his games are worse than bots so u dont even learn from players bellow 500 hours
This was a great video. I’m at 2.5k hours and there were still a few things I didn’t know within. I can’t imagine just how daunting it must be for newcomers. I hope new buyers know, it’s a commitment!
as a person who is a beginner (started mid feb this year) it was definitely scary to understand at first. fortunately, i had friends who played the game around 2019 so they helped me a lot but a lot of people dont realise how overwhelming the game is at first (i fully just straight up did not notice perks until a week in)
damn, i remembered how i used to think thats exhaustion cause hindrence. It was times, when crouching would speed up exhaustion recovery. I hopped on the game and didnt understand anything and just died a lot of times, then played killer, got all my hooks broken (or somebody from surviviour side had perk to disable auras of them, it was long ago, io dont remember) and quitted for about 4-6 years. Remembered about the game recently, gor decent, and now play very rarely due to it being boring af. This game is something else, i cant even explain it...
@@MintSkull the funniest thing that is, I thought game more balanced than it was. I thought perks gives something in exchange to something, not a straight buffs. I know, the problem is me and, partially, poor translation to my language of the game (and it's still bad tho), but perks description was not very clear to me back then, and this whole thing (walking slower after burst of speed) looked pretty logical to me, ngl.
even if you watch otzdarva seminars to learn about the game, it is impossible to know for sure if you're knowledgeable about a killer since they have constant updates that nerf, buff and rework killers. So the only way to keep up is to stay in the conversation forever
DBD would benefit greatly from a guidebook that gives video footage for every mechanic in the game. And going through it should give you Bloodpoints to encourage players to not ignore it. EDIT: Ah, you basically recommend that around at 29:00
Something I learned in this video as someone who got into the game around a year and a half ago and has played for probably around 500 hours since then. I had no idea that grades didn't factor into your MMR at all. And most people I talk to tall about them as ranks and not as badges. Like, it doesn't say that anywhere.
When i filled the sastifation survey for dbd in the last page in the bottom that said any thing you would like want in dbd i said "i would like you increase the iri shard gain on level to 500 at any level" to make the grind faster and to unlock stuff faster
I’ve been thinking about getting DbD for a while now and a lot of stuff you talked about I didn’t know. I kept asking “What is that?! What would that do?” So your rant is very fair. Before I didn’t even know what a killer instinct was even though I have watched a good chunk of dbd videos. I wish they made the tutorials better.
(Anecdote from veteran player starting over) I switched from Switch to PC, and it was incredibly eye-opening. In my old account I had every perk and character unlocked, so I always wondered if the monetization and grind was that bad. And experimenting it first-hand; It is. The only saving grace making me not wanna quit the game is that I have previous knowledge of the game from experimenting. So I just grab my survivor and killer mains, make a semi-decent build with both, and play a pretty bare-bones game. Still fun, but nothing like the crazy meme builds and fun variety I had in my old account. Which is really sad because this game is a ton of fun, but that true fun it's buried so deep beneath the surface, it's unlikely a new player will ever reach it.
I think most of the details in this video are 100% correct but the biggest issue is a word that is used over and over in this video and in the community at large - "COMPETITIVE" This one single word and mindset is the biggest issue in the community and the main cause for 90% of the toxicity in the community. I started playing DBD back when we had the old rank system - before SBMM and back then the "competitive" games were around rank 5 and above which is where all the skill matches were and the tech's etc which was fine because in the far lower ranks you had players who were learning and so it balanced out a lot. Back then i was playing David - a character i still main today and i was using no-mither and resilience as it allowed me to do gens fast and killers would sometimes slug and so i could easily get myself back up if i couldnt avoid the killer most of the match. This brings me to my point - since SBMM the main focus by content creators and a lot of the community has moved to this main push for competitive and so killers are told to tunnel and 3 gen because it helped get wins - survivors are told to use the "meta" because its the best way to win - its just non stop "best way to win" and that removed ALL the fun that used to happen in this game at lower ranks. This is my personal opinion as to why most people quit the game early on - yes the grind is long but so is WoW and other games that people also sink thousands of hours into - the grind isnt bad when the game is FUN and DBD is no longer fun but a sweat shop. Until the community stop being so focused on competitive or until a competitive mode is added as a seperate thing DBD will continue to be the most miserable and unfun game. I am lucky that i have a SWF that i play with and we spend most of our matches messing around and doing memes because we dont need to do anything, ive already 100% completed all achievements and tombs so until something new comes i dont have to care and even when a new DLC or tomb comes i can easily smash through it in a week or so after doing my full time job without having to try or play "competitive" I get some people want that which is why i think it should have its own dedicated mode like most other games do but until that happens new players will get bullied out of the game because like big long term games - Eve Online as an example - it does take time to tearn and be good at for some and they will be treated poorly (especially in solo queue) if they are doing well enough when matched with competitive players Ive seen the way players talk to each other in the end game chat and its terrible, as a killer ive had to give encouragement to new players after the match because the rest of their team have just been so toxic to them for being new - its this elitist view by a lot of the community that causes this.
DISCLAIMER: The % I did regarding the locked content a new player will have is WRONG! I counted it as a PC player without the console characters, so the error margin is around 5% for the total!
I wanted to talk about a topic that, for some reason, almost nobody talks of in the community, and that's how TERRIBLE the new player experience is for Dead By Daylight. Back when the game was still fresh and the content was small, this was not a big deal. DbD was a scary experience, and not knowing anything is part of the charm. Nowadays, with the introduction of the aggresive SBMM, Dead By Daylight is far from a "casual" experience. With over 35 killer powers to learn, each with 20 addons to choose from, 255 perks that can alter the match, maps with RNG generation and veterans with thousands of hours of experience, Dead By Daylight is not beginner friendly.
The issue I find is that the game's core is becoming simplified in terms of mechanics, when the game itself is already easier than League, Valorant or any other true competitive game. What DbD needs is to become BEGINNER FRIENDLY, and it's ridicuouls how the Mobile version of Dead By Daylight is significantly more noob friendly than the pc and console version of the game. The tutorial is horrible and this video will prove it, the grind and perk unlock system is daunting and unrewarding for the vast majority of casuals, and the scam of secrets is an insult that only exists as a scapegoat for this game not to be accused of "pay 2 win" when it already has pay 2 win mechanics in the means of "Pay 2 Skip"
If you are a veteran, and you played with someone you wanted to introduce into the game, you probably noticed how many things you take for granted that are very confusing for new players. Like 99% the gates, where generators spawn, how items work, killer powers and counters....
I hope this video is useful to prove how bad the casual experience of DbD is if you don't play this game every week and are up to date with the reworks and changes killer powers have, like the future Twins update.
Thanks for clarifying.
As someone who's not ready to play matches outside of custom games yet (started in November) this is so true. I think more content that helps new players learn about Perks, Killers and Fundamentals would be great.
The Alt-Right is misleading the devs and are behind all the bad decisions in DBD 😭
So how would you going about fixing the game to make it new player friendly?
Old video , But the veterans are bad at the game too lol
I introduced 3 people to dbd they said
- gens are very boring
- perks are confusing (they all equipped random crap)
- the game itself gets boring fast
- they complained about all the cool (licensed) characters they see ads for are all pay to play
- they also didn’t understand non-licensed stuff behind paywalls when you have to buy the game
- one of them said “since they wanna monetize like a mobile game they could at least let me watch ads to try the payed sh*t” 💀💀
they are not wrong lol
W Heather Mason pfp it captures the struggles of DBD starting out
Truee my brother said the same thing that’s it’s freaking boringg it’s repetitive and gens aren’t fun I really do hope someday bhvr can do something about that but I doubt it
Maybe the game modes would help?
you should introduce them to identity V then. its basically the chinese version of dbd, free on mobile and pc, much less grinding and only the newest character is locked behind a paywall, and only for a week.
and unless you want to gacha for skins its completely f2p.
its also much faster paced, so gens only take half the time they take in dbd, making them less boring, and perks are locked to survivors, meaning they actually have uses besides simply being cosmetics.
Don't give them ideas, ads in games are already something starting to happen smfh
Things I, a 2000 hour player, learned from this video:
-Xenomorph can detect you if you run while they are tunneling
-Xenomorph disables turrets near the tunnel it comes out of
-Trickster has a combo mechanic (???)
-Wesker has less cooldown the more survivors he infects
-Singularity has a longer overclock the more survivors are slipstreamed
I think that demonstrates just how bad the problem is LOL
Trickster has a combo mechanic? What’s the combo mechanic???
@@JustRhysky A short timer, counting how many consecutive knives you hit that then adds up and extends your next Main Event by a few seconds depending on how good your "combo" was!
Its even worse when I tell you I have 4000 hours and just learned about the Trickster one and the Singularity one 😅
Its not just running w xeno. If you walk or run it tracks you. Unless you have a flame tureet if you move it tracks you
Here's another cool info about xenomorph:
His killer instinct reveal when he emerges from tunnel has the SAME range as the aura radius of tunnels.
If you can see the aura of the control station, that means xenomorph will be able to detect you upon emerging.
I can confirm as a new player I’m either getting slaughtered by killers in two minutes or watching the killer roam the entire map and never finding anyone
If you're being slaughtered very fast it's probably being unfamiliar with the map. Either spend a lot of time in custom games to learn them or invest in getting Kate for the windows of opportunity perk so you can see vaults and pallets. Also don't play as tall characters or bright characters if you want to not be spotted constantly. They unfortunately removed a lot of the base fog in the game so killers can see you across most maps now
@@slaayerr1 from the time of that comment I made rank 1, then got my salad tossed after reset
@GodWorksOut hahaha yeah reaching rank 1 has always been a rough turning point for killers and survivors. It hits hard when suddenly a lot of your games turn very difficult
@@GodWorksOut this isnt to undermine ur progress in any way (proud of u for putting that time in to hit rank 1) but i wouldnt exactly use rank as a means to determine skill level in dbd, unfortunately the rank doesnt correlate to what rank ur teammates and the killer will be (u can be rank 1 and get all rank 20 teammates) this is due to the game revolving around a hidden mechanic known as mmr which increases for ur escapes and decreases when u die this could explain why at times u go against 3 good killers in a row or 2 and get rolled then the game after get a really noobie killer. not to mention they removed "deranking" which would be if ur pips are at 0 and u get -1 pip the following game youd drop a rank, yeah that doesnt exist anymore and u cant actually derank you will only lose pips till u go to 0 then the following depip has no effect. its unfortunate as all the rank is there for is the bloodpoint reward. the reason you likely faced harder killers is the mmr increasing due to more escapes goodluck otherwise
I began 6 months before , only play ando you Will become better i already have 700 hours
One of the main problems is 90% of the free survivor and killer perks are absolutely useless or offer little value. I get it they're not supposed to be too crazy or op but perks like Kindred and Deja Vu are perfect mix for someone who's new or very casual
Beginners still have the free killers and survivors they can get perks from, but survivors have significantly better free teachable perks than killers
If you really want to win as killer you're kind of forced to pay, because Agitation + (nerfed) Sloppy butcher + NOED + Nurses calling can only get you so far against survivors with optimized builds
@shuiinii9181 agreed, and if you work for a living, you aren't going to be able to buy anything for the longest time, meaning you are going to lose alot and once the next broken thing is out your going to lose more as you cant buy them right off the bat but everyone else will
The free Killer perks are more worst
For killer yes, but not survivor. The only thing you have to pay for as survivor currently for meta is Windows and an Anti Tunnel perk, other than that base game has survivors covered pretty well. Sprint Burst, Adrenaline, Prove, Deja Vu, Sabotage, Kindred, you can get some really good builds.
the free survivor perks are better than paid
One of the biggest issues is how the game goes out of its way to avoid explaining the “killer in chase” icon with the wiggling tendrils on the character portraits. This is a VITAL indicator for survivors that no one seems to know about aside from those lucky enough to see the loading screen tip.
Soooooo many times I have seen the auras of survivors half way across the map hide in lockers the SECOND they hear a minimum terror radius even though I’ve clearly been in chase for a minute and a half
Legit I’ve met players who went HALF A YEAR not knowing this. We need a PSA or something
For the first few hundred hours I put into this game, I didn't understand that bottom left UI at ALL. I did not understand what the obsession was, I didn't understand why it wiggled sometimes or why the wiggles were smaller or larger. I didn't understand thats wherre killer powers were shown for prigress. I mean the game just gives you 0 indecation outside those small tooltips on truly how to understand that UI at all.
Don't even get me started on status effects and how long those took me to figure out... especially when most of them are NOT intuitive at all and whatever you assume the effect would be based on the picture isn't that at all.
@@GanjjaCat the status effects complaint is so real. other than exhaust and broken, there is no way for you to know what the other ones do unless you play killer.
Skill issue
As soon as i saw the mechanic come out my brain went "that looks like the thing when the obsession is being chased" and was almost immediately proven right when i was being chase. Also @imdva isn't there an instruction section for survivors, killers and general play somewhere in the help tab? Any time i was confused about a status i went there. Please correct me if it doesn't exist anymore
@@imdvaI’ve been playing dbd since it came to console day 1 and I only recently learned that mangled doesn’t just make you bleed more lol
Whenever i face people as a twins main, if the game is going horribly because i can recognize people don't understand the mechanics, i show people what they can do just so they have some understanding of how to counter them, like victor being able to jump over through windows, over pallets, and the fact they can't leave with victor on there back, im going to continue my twins teaching when the rework happens
That's kind to do for new players. Twins is an example of killer power that, unless survivors know their power, she is super busted
I started actually playing during the 2023 anniversary was pretty beginner friendly
@@MintSkull I remember I started to main Twins very early too, and I do remember that survivors did not understand the power at all . Even now with more than 1,5k hours some survivors still don't know about the Victor exit gate blocking mechanic.
Every time I face twins (once in 3 months) one of my EXPERIENCED teammates died to VictorWarden because they just don't know it exists and that you should NOT teabag victor on the gates
Wow, I never thought about doing this as a The Twins Main, I will be doing this myself! Thank you for teaching me how to teach people.
Imagine trying to learn all of the perks, killer powers, items, and addons at this point as a brand new player. even just thinking about it makes me exhausted, it'd be easier to learn a new language
Learning this game is from scratch as a new player is equivalent to picking up Mandarin Chinese lol
Just started earlier this week. I was googling beginner tips, and I came across a reddit thread. One user wrote: "Survivor Tip - Know all the maps and all of the killer perks." Like... super helpful bro. Just know everything? That's all? Great...
You forget to mention maps and the RNG.
Yeah the game isn’t beginner friendly when half the rounds are toxic swf and 85% od characters you have to pay for. Cant even imagine starting dbd nowadays
Same, I was lucky that I started in 2016, because I would not recommend this game to anyone nowadays despite how much I love it due to how daunting the new experience is.
I started last month. It was miserable but I just hit Gold 1 with Pig and Legion
I've always had the game but I started playing last year and just got back into it recently during blood moon, I'm honestly probably as addicted now as most players were at its peak. I just have fun most of the time when looping, and the rare occasion I get owned its honestly whatever 🤷. I really like this game and it's mechanics are still fresh to me
I started playing around Chucky's release and I now have every single character in the game prestige 3 or over about 5 months later. I bought most of the DLCs during the Christmas sale and spent slightly over 100€ total. That being said, I fully agree this game isn't beginner friendly for casual players. However, if you are willing to commit a lot of your free time to playing this game and spending a bit of money on it, then it's... Fine. You could probably unlock everything on everyone playing semi-casual/semi-hardcore in less than a year. I wish it weren't this inaccessible, but that's the unfortunate reality.
Edit: P.S. I had a little over 1000 hours total after finishing the grind (that includes spending a lot of time afk in the game lobby).
i recently restarted on my ps4 (since there's no cross progression 🙃) and i got out very easily using all base game perks. it's just practice and skill.
I can't believe that the dead by daylight mobile tutorial is better, they literally show you how meg is looping trapper like a God and wasting the killer time, better than me I'd say, I wish they show us more about how pallets can be used in the pc tutorial, same for vaults❤
Absurd how the mobile version of the game is miles ahead than console DbD, the only issue is that the monetization is indeed taking advantage of the fact it's a Free 2 Play game on mobile
Isn’t mobile version released by another company and not BHvr though?
@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN it is made by both the company netease and bhvr, so the answer is yes and no
@@MintSkull I highly prefer dbd mobile over the real game 🤷 it’s FREE and I can be ass at the game and still have fun aka not dying at 4-5 gens and feeling like I’m not getting any better at all.
Skill issue bro
first time i got a flashlight i used it to light places up because thats exactly what i thought, never knew it was for blinding.
exaclty. everyone uses it wrong till they learn it from somewhere else
I learn from being blinded by them every game I play as a killer main
I'm a new player, like a really new player, I've just started playing a couple of days ago because my friends wanted me to, and it intrigued me. And, I just want to have fun. This is a video game, not professional Olympics. And being a new player sucks, everyone gets mad at you when you do something "stupid", it's one of the worst feelings to be trying your best and have a good time, just to be met with never ending toxicity from the players around you. And to feel so lost and overwhelmed with how many perks there are and all of the strange techniques the fans have developed in the game. I really want to enjoy this game, I really do, but it just feels so very difficult to do!
I failed a skill check and my teammate stood there for 10 seconds mad that I just wasted their toolbox and add-ons.
Man so true. I’ve been playing for 2 weeks and there’s too much powers and perks involved in this game. I think if the game was more simple it would be more fun.
As a full time single parent if 2 and a casual gamer I have just starting playing this game and ism already starting to get P##### O## with this game. Iam starting to feel like either playing as a surviver or a killer iam getting picked on either getting smashed or getting rings run around me and iam starting to not enjoy the game. Also iam a Switch player and it's crazy how much more the DLC cost way more then the actual game it's crazy. I will keep trying to play the game but it's getting to a point where iam not looking forward to turning the game on anymore but I will keep trying for now.
@huwjones6644 as a full time son of a single parent of 2 and after having 1000 hours sunk into dbd i can tell you that there are better and cheaper ways to spend your down time than this videogame.
I think the whole horror game feel should be kept, but also a way to make it more fair to new players; Have a glossary be updated depending on perks you run into, or already have. This makes it so the first encounter with a Killer or perk, the Mystique of the Killer and perk can be kept, but also gives the survivor the information they need to get better and understand the game a lot more. I think the game should strive for both. Otherwise, the game is a sweatfest, and nothing more.
That's a super cool idea!
So for example: Let's say that I encountered a killer that has a perk like No One Escapes Death, that gets added on the glossary on what it does. Am I getting this right?
Somehow, the Mobile version has this. The game teaches you about perks and killers after a match and give you BPs for reading about it. I still impressed that some resources in mobile are not available on Core
I see, interesting tho. I'll love to see that as a feature.
I love the idea of a Perk Pokedex. Get an entry for all of the perks you've seen in the wild.
as an ex-veteran of the game (stopped playing around 2021), I learned more from this video than having played a few matches, as well as having re-done the tutorial.
whilst I have been able to quickly adapt to a lot of the changes due to my previous experience with the game, there are still things that are left un answered, that I would have to go out of my way in order to find out, when the game itself could easily and quickly explain it, such as how big the radius is for the whole anti-camping mechanic is.
What should be done are these things;
-Make two types of tutorials, a beginner tutorial, and an advanced tutorial, with the advanced one showing more technical things like looping, the anti-camping mechanic in more detail, totems (although this should be in the beginner one), etc.
-Make a tutorial for every killer, showcasing each killers power from both the survivor and killer perspective within the same guide. This is a lofty task to get done for BHVR, but is incredibly important in teaching some of the fundementals of the game. Nurse has a completely different playstyle from say Onryo, and with the current system can easily get confusing. As someone who back in 2018 picked The Nurse without knowing I even had a power, that ended up being a very interesting match.
-Keep the game manual, but include short videos showcasing what's being talked about, and mention EVERYTHING. Every status effect, briefly explain what every killers power does, explain when the anti-kick feature kicks in (no pun intended), etc. This can get confusing, but this is a game manual, it should include everything.
-Possibly mention the community made content, encouraging people to go out and watch other people play the game. Doesn't have to mention anyone specifically, but could mention for instance the Fog Whisperer program and that they are "verified" content creators for the game, as in they are endorsed by the developers, and be like "hey, this is the fog whisperer icon, keep an eye out for it".
-Make a tutorial for the menus, showcasing how loadouts work, the rift, shop, etc. This can be figured out easily be the player themselves, but would be a short and simple tutorial to get anyone up to speed. Could also explain things like the currencies.
Heavy agree, especially with the tutorial for every killer since it could also allow for new players to figure out what killers they would want to save up for/buy immediately first!
@@JustRhysky
that too, absolutely. ultimately, I think BHVR should either;
A) make all non-licensed killers free for everyone
or
B) make the base game free for everyone
with option A being the superior option for us consumers. paying 20$ only to get about 30% of the characters in the game is just bad, and we are well past the age of both selling the game for a price and then spending upwards of 5+ times that amount just to get the characters, not to mention cosmetics.
I have a few friends who are thinking about getting into Dead By Daylight, but it's hard to recommend it to them when the 20$ buy-in price (a bit less on sales) is just a tiny amount compared to the in game purchases.
there could be a third option, which would make all teachable perks available for everyone. this would include licensed perks too. how this would be implemented I'm not sure, and i know we have the shrine, but I have two ideas for this;
either
A) make a page with every teachable perk available for purchase, either with bloodpoints (like 300-500k per) or iridescent shards (1-2k per)
or
B) make the shrine of secrets a daily rotation and lower the price a bit
regardless, the current system we have is flawed for anyone getting into the game, both in terms of tutorials but also just letting people play the damn game. at least by being able to try a killer out before purchase, you don't have to invest like 7$ just to see if that killer is worth it for you personally. I'm sure there's a decently sized group of people who would love to play, random example, Twins, but who just don't know it yet because they don't want to spend the money just to find out.
(this ended up being way longer than I inteded it for, tl;dr make non-licensed characters free for everyone or at least make getting all teachable perks available for everyone at all times without needing to purchase the character first)
Crazy how ALL OF THESE FEATURES ARE IN MOBILE. Everytime you encounter a new perk the game gives you a brief overview about it and looking at it gives you blood points. The game recommends loadouts based on playstyles and the game has leaderboards where you can see what the best players are running.
A nearly one hour video? With no split screen playing Subway Surfers? Madness, my rotted brain can’t handle it!
Can’t play a game like Sunshine saying this.
The HUD not being explaining at all is criminal. When I started, I didn't know what the [obsession indicator] was, didn't know I could see if teammates were in chase, didn't know how to know how many gens/hatchets were left, at ALL that I was in deep wounds so didn't know why I suddenly went down, how much time was left in hook stages, etc. Also it's way under-mentioned that killer and survivors' main interaction buttons are totally different (left click vs space bar).
While playing as the Dredge, I had a Bill walking around trying to use his flashlight to light his way during nightfall.
Bro is playing dbd mobile
@@evangingerson1271why every single comment you leave is cringe 😭 can’t expect much from a 12 year old with a Deadpool pfp ig
@@gelo888 chill it’s just messing around 😂
@@gelo888 A 12 year old with a profile of a character that they not old enough to watch there movie?
@@gelo888wonder the samething ngl
He sounds insane
He should have had the joker pfp to be fair.
the item thing is so true. i had absolutely no idea what the flashlight was for, everything else was pretty much self explanatory. i rlly used to use flashlights to see better 😭
I'm sure we all tried it when we first got into dbd. I just thought "man this flashlight sucks"
Omg same, like in dark basements 😂
A lot of games you have to see what yoy do wrong or see be used in different way to understand. Could be better. The flashlight thing you said is straight noob hilarious though 😂
it made more sense back then as the maps were super dark.
I have no idea how there are new players still coming into the game. You have to be a walking encyclopedia to understand the game, you have to be a walking wallet to afford all the content, and a walking punching bag to endure the torture of losing for hours
One word: killer!!:3
The only way DBD draws new player is probably from its plethora of Licenese. Maybe they saw their favorite horror characters get added and wanted to play as Michael Myers, Freddy, Dracula and possibly another Freddy in the future.
I came from watching some content creators play the game and pretty much got all the basics from watching. Also i just got every licensed killer and i'm waiting for the sale to get every licensed survivor, then just grind for the rest for free with shards. It is still pretty expensive though for sure.
I started playing in January of this year, around the time the game was promoting Chucky and Alan Wake iirc, after some friends got me into it. Since I was lucky enough to get it when it was free on Epic, I decided to try it. I've been playing and enjoying it for several months, and I thought I knew a good amount about it, but after watching this video, I learned several mechanics that I had no clue about, such as how the resolve meter doesn't appear in endgame. One thing that's pretty lame is the perk system. I'm the type of person who likes to try out many different builds, however, since I detest spending money on games after purchase, the game quickly showed me that I have very little option in variety until I unlock more characters. I'm currently at 241 hours according to Epic, and so far I've unlocked Kate, Vittorio, Felix, Jeff, and Rebecca (thanks to the generosity of a friend) for the survivors and only Legion and Clown for killers. Several of these characters I only chose to use my shards on for their perks, and even after all this time I still feel like my builds have very little variation: Gen Rush or Chase Help for survivors, and pretty much just Information with Sloppy for killers. I definitely feel as though that either many of the bad starting perks should get a rework to make them more useful or varied, or that the perks shouldn't be tied to characters.
Insane how little characters you have after investing 241 hours into this game. And I can't even imagine the lack of variety in terms of builds for casuals and new players.
Also glad you learned something new!
I started playing on mobile around October and console in December and even though I’ve watched people play dead by daylight for years I still struggled to figure out a lot of mechanics, I have around 300 hours now and I’ve only unlocked a few characters (sad to admit I bought a few)for survivor and killer. I just started using flashlights and I had no idea you had to wait a bit to blind killers among so many other things🥲
BHVR should make more dlc for free like they did with huntress and nurse and bill
@@flopsnextdoorThat’s normal for every player. For flashlights.
I mean you can use shards in the shop for random perks that are from characters you don’t have. That’s about it though 😂
Begginer experience: watched content creators for a while before getting the game itself, won most matches when I started playing because of the previous knowledge (and overall gaming experience), reached above begginer level MMR, imediately got stomped for several matches in a row by killers/survivors with multiple meta licensed perks
I can attest to this on the killer side:
Had some prior experience thanks to playing on and off for like 2 hours in 2016-17 and Demi, stomped new players while trying my best to teach them what killers can do, and get screwed over the moment I get above average MMR because I have no perks against decent survivors with meta perks, or a SWF with 3-4 players, or a perk got changed since I last saw it (why is pop the weasel and sprint burst meta now)
Just started the game a week ago, and this is my exact experience as well.
update: as I got more perks including one or two meta perks, I was able to maintain a stable 30% winrate as survivor and 45% as killer, the experience gap is still high as I have a little under 200 hours on the game whist constantly competing with lvl 100 characters my oponents bring. Thankfully, I only get occasionally stomped nowadays and am currently working on bringing my winrate to a stable 50%+ on both sides as I am finally on a semi-equal playing field as my opponents
@@kj117br5 I admire your perseverance. Hope I’ll be able to do the same!
I started playing 2-3 weeks ago (only 3 survivors Prestige 1) and honestly didn't find it too bad so far. Matches are very stompy from either side but generally i realized that i die more often if I try to help teammates who are struggling more, since they tend to abandon you even if you stay to help them. If I play with just escaping myself in mind I escape 3 out of 4 games with mid builds. The game where I die the killer 4ks us with 5 gens still up. Cant win every game so idm. Gonna try Killer next but from playing a few customs with 4 friends I'm probably in for a shit time lol
As a new player who pnly picked the game up abour a month or two ago I got super lucky with how my first few games went. Started the game with the intent of being a killer main, and the first few games I got some absolute angels playing as survivor. Think they figured I was a baby killer so they started showing me all the pallet and loop areas, even let me get 2 hooks before they escaped. That interaction got me addicted so fast, I even got some encouraging messages from people giving me advice on how to be a better killer. I can see how this game could be very overwhelming for new players, I mean shit I had no clue what I was doing, but after a day or two you start to learn that you only really need certain perks for certain killers and not every single perk in the game, thinking like that is what nakes ut feel overwhelming in the first place.
Not at all😂
The existing tutorial is fine for quickly teaching basic controls, but it definitely doesn't prepare players for an average match. At the very least they should cover totems, chests, and items, because those will be in literally every match.
But honestly, I think the best option for BHVR would just be to leverage community resources; link to Otz and other fog whisperers videos, or even have an in-game video player. Contract them to make new videos, too. I'm sure many would be happy to.
Ingame video player is a great idea, like they did in texas with game manual
@@muysli.y1855 DOTA and CS:GO have in-game web browsers and video players as well. It wouldn't be super difficult for BHVR to implement, it's probably very simple with Unreal Engine.
Hot take: They should add a brown flashlight that can't blind the killer with 80 charges just so people can suffer and light the hallways of dark maps.
It would be useful as counterplay against Hag still.
@@KinotheHedgehog Not anymore. Hag's Traps are not light-burn related anymore.
I wish they would have had an actual looping instruction. The mechanics of the structures and how to run them. There's also no mention of killer/survivor speed which is why new players just hold w!
they dont because behavior has no idea how to play their own game. every tech and way of looping is essentially made by the people who play the game
Bloodlust no mention
@@artful3448 ngl ik pretty sure EVERY bhvr dev would get ran 4 mins minimum in a 1v1 and $5 they would never hold one checkspot
As someone who recently started playing myself, being a new player is terribly unfun. Primarily because of how overwhelming the system is (plus sweaty players). Trying to understand, perks, and killer abilities is absolutely mindnumbing for someone just getting in. And then when you inevitably look up perk lists on UA-cam/online for a good perk set, half if not all the perks you have to pay for. And those seldom come from the same character, meaning that you have to sink additional money into this game that you already paid for. Do I even need to talk about the grinding?
There, done, rant over.
yes, exactly. you basically need someone who already plays to help you, and even then, you wont have a lot of fun because you'll likely hold the team back, or even throw the game.
@@thekiddshow yes exactly! If it weren’t for my friends, there’s no way I’d be into the game. We started playing in custom lobbies, so there’s less pressure, but it was still rough starting out for sure; especially when I started doing online ques.
Remember when the p2w topic was brought up and the major communities just called it stupid and bs cause new players arent at a disadvantage apperantly.
This playerbase does not like the new player experience from what ive seen
As a recent beginner, i totally agree that I couldn’t care less about what/who is good or op. I want to actually understand what I and other people are doing and can do. Often times I can’t completely understand the killers’ powers. Take Myers for example:
From my perspective he just looks at me for some time, which seems like a killer is just trying to be friendly and not attacking. Then he one-shots me. That is moderately easy to get behind.
But then another myers has a totally different build and his ability changes because of that and now I’m lost all over again. I don’t have myers, I can’t play him (unless I pay money). I can’t learn all of his perks and how they work. And that’s not even to mention that he can rock any other perks from any other killer I don’t have and I that will be even more confusing
And that’s just one of many examples
I remember playing DBD mobile years ago I bought the nurse because i saw a video of it being op then I lost every game because I didn't know you can hit someone right after blinking
Imagine if that was the nerf Nurse got, you can only use blink as a means to traverse the map...
That’s just a skill issue tbh
Wait, if you see her being op that means she had to have been attacking after blink no? How'd you miss th at?
@@TheReZisTLust I watched some videos and saw that she did. Then I tried it and somehow couldn't idk tho
A game like Deep Rock Galactic handles all of this so much better.
For anyone who doesn't know, Deep Rock Galactic or DRG is a 4 person co-op shooter where you play as these Dwarfs who work for a space mining company, where you travel to a planet to mine resources and shoot aliens.
In that game, there are many different things you can upgrade for your dwarfs, such as the primary weapons, secondary, throwables, utility tools etc. But the difference here is that all the upgrades can ONLY be unlocked via playing the game. There is no paying your way out of it. You spend a good amount of money buying the game and then the rest is up to you to unlock.
The only dlc there is is purely cosmetic, and it doesn't add anything else than you just looking cool. Plus there is also cosmetics you can earn via just playing the game.
If DBD made it so that it was free, or a lot of old content was free, then maybe the grind would be a little less punishing.
the ugly truth for new players are the insane amount of perks und killers. This is too much and frustrating. I play since 2016 and many of my friends, i tried to convince quiting after few hours.
I had 2 friends who had never played dbd before pick up the game this year when The Unknown released. They haven't really cared about any grind and have been genuinely enjoying their time playing, and they improve with each and every match. One is on PC and the other is on Xbox so I get to see how both of them have been improving and they've gone down different paths, but it still leads to them having fun playing
Rare occurrence
I remember when I started playing, I didn’t understand how perks and prestige system work. And the wrost part is, my console wasn’t in english but in my native language and THE TRANSLATION IS TRASH SO EVEN BY READING EVERYTHING, IT DIDNT MAKE SENSE.
I didn't even mention translations! They are indeed not very well translated for languages that are not English / Spanish, and some of my viewers will remember the "butt smeller" translation of Trapper
@@MintSkullI'm sorry the what translation??
Oledor de c*l*s o algo así no me acuerdo de tu vid :(
I'm a relatively newish player! I started playing DBD around November of 2023, almost December if I recall correctly. Fell in love with it and have been playing casually on/off since. I learned about the game from a friend who was actually a hardcore veteran, and wanted to get me into it.
For more context, I still have not paid a single cent towards DBD other than when I bought the base game. I am a shards-only player, and have always had a consistent 0 auric cells since I started. I also wanna note that I am a 50/50 player. I will often play solo Q survivor, or play as a random killer. (I don't have a particular killers I like more, I like trying different killing styles a lot). I don't pick one side since I like playing as both about evenly.
When I first started playing DBD, I was pretty terrified of everything. I went to the in-game tutorials and learned the basic goals of gameplay. And that was basically it. I actually had no idea what perks were for the longest time, or how to equip items. Those were things that took me days to learn from just the menu UI alone. It took me even longer to learn about kinks in killer powers or tactics to looping a killer which I'm still not very good at anyway.
I think what made me suck so much in the beginning was just how even in my first few matches as the noob dwight/meg, I was overwhelmed with everything. I didn't know what the UI of my teammates indicated, and I was going against advanced killers that brought hex perks. (It took me about a month or 2 to learn what hex totems were and how they work). For instance I still remember my first game against a Myers. When he reached tier 3, I thought the exposed icon meant I was having my location given to Michael at all times. And it wasn't too long after that I encountered my first Tombstone combo Myers. You should've seen my face when I thought the Myers was just being friendly, and then he started instant-mori'ing my unharmed teammates, and I immediately thought he was hacking lol. That's when I finally learned how significant addons can really be for killers. It's like a whole different game depending on the addons man. I wish I had learned more about those kind of things so I could not be sitting there feeding a Myers who I thought was just being friendly.
The tutorials really do need to get good and explain things better in terms of side effects or states. Things like deep wound, exposed, hindered, blindness, etc. All of that should be explained in better detail in the tutorials instead of just learning the mostly hard way by playing matches against sweat lords.
Another thing is just how gate-kept I feel from being a better player. Even after these 6 months since I started playing DBD, I still mostly only have the basic characters. I have only unlocked 2 additional shard-purchased killers, and a handful of survivors for their teachable perks. I love watching DBD content and I would love to try my hand at different (GOOD) perks like decisive strike/flash grenade as survivor, or killer perks like save the best for last and friends to the end. But those kind of things are not viable for me to get because I refuse to spend my real money for auric cells.
I feel like as of this post I have reached an intermediate understanding of DBD, but still don't know a lot about tactics used by killers/survivors, and I still don't fully understand every single killer's powers, even though I've played against all of them at least a few times. (Forget trying to learn the skull merchant's power since I only ever see them once every blue moon).
The game is very very grindy and I only have so much time in my busy adult life to spend grinding for better perks. It very much feels like I have to pay to win, which I simply refuse to do.
When I started playing DBD( just before sadako came out). I learned basically everything from videos, I only played killer because survivor scared me at the time. I remember having a fun time when I was playing killer but I ended up deleting the game and not playing until the attack on titan Collab/dredge midchapter. I remember my biggest struggle was the perks, items and add-ons. It all just sounded like complete gibberish about what they did, changed or affected. I ended up just using perks because I felt like I had to. Even now after 1k hours i still pity all the new players because the climb is incredibly steep before getting a decent understanding of maps/variations, offerings, add-ons, powers, perks, items and status effects
ohhhh I also started playing before Sadako. I remember going against Artists and having plenty of Jonahs every trial. I kept asking my brother why people loved those characters and he told me it was a recent released chapter.
Forcing playing to look at the 100 characters perks as well.
Recently I was confused why survivors would drop to the floor without bleeding out. Turns out it’s a Nicholas Cage perk.
8:31 I love how self care users refuse to be healed and would rather spend 40 seconds in a corner doing nothing
I don't usually comment, but this is spot on. I downloaded the game literally 6 days ago and I can confirm that it is unbelievable confusing, I do enjoy the game because I really like the idea of it, but it really is not beginner friendly at all. Most of my games as a survivor go as follows: 1. Killers who are WAY above me and way too good for me to deal with, I get killed, spotted and destroyed easily, as I lack map awareness, no clue the perks, add ons or even the sacrificial thingy. 2. Afk killers who just do nothing, thus boring game. 3. Throwing killers, ones who just want to throw the game, again, no fun. I only have like 5 killers and honestly most of them are boring and repetitive, the good ones or interesting ones are behind a pay-wall. There is no communication in-game between the survivors, no voice or even text, simply 2 useless emotes, making coordinating actions way too difficult. Oh and my teammates either hide all game or wait for everyone to die to get the hatch lmao, I try to get gens, usually my average is 2 gens per game, but the killers are just too good and I lack knowledge to deal with them, I can't loop because I simply dk how to and even as a killer idk how to catch good loopers, the survivors I play against are usually, again, way too good for my level. It's just very frustrating, some killers will just camp the hook from a distance till you die, which is unbelievable frustrating, the whole unhooking meter thing is so useless and doesn't answer the issue with campers, likewise I find it very difficult to even escape, even if I get unhooked, escaping is just futile as I'll always be followed.
You've already said it in the past, BeHavior is a company, and like any company it is only interested in profits. Why would they waste resources improving the tutorial when they can use it for another Fen Ming skin?
I started this game pretty much 1 year ago when Tools of Torment was released. I started it for 2 reasons:
1. I am a big fan of good horror movies, so seeing Freddy, Myers, Bubba etc. in a game excited me
2. My brother plays it regularly and asked me several times to give it a try, which I eventually did
I honestly think the beginning of DBD is the most fun as a survivor you'll have with this game. You honestly feel like in a horro movie. It's thrilling, it's amazing. I didn't care whether or not perk X or item Y where good. I only knew Feng Min is cute as hell and I liked her perks. I still think she is the best starter survivor and use 2 of her her perks in every match I play as a surv. It could not have bothered me less back then. I believe this thinking only starts when you truly understood the game, the killers and the perks to a basic degree. And then it is up for you to decide. DO you invest the time and money to get the juicy stuff or do you make due with what you have? Since this game helped me and my brother a lot in repairing our damaged relationship I gladly chose to spent time and money and still often have fun with him playing the game
Feng is a bad survivor to choose as a beginner because she is so darn LOUD when she is injured that a friggin' blind person could find her!
Something that would really be nice is if iri shard gain was just a consistent number instead of resetting back to 65 shards a level after 100 levels so the grind could at least be slightly be less tedious
Phenomenal video. I’ve been playing since 2016 but I would never ask any of my friends to get dbd the grind for new players is atrocious
Since i'm a beginner in this game i would say this:
Firstly shrine which is like you mintskull called scam of secrets, could be reworked for example:
A perk that you already own will not show in shrine, simple and effective change.
Second: The game itself, people play this game to win 99% of the time, so if you don't have map knowledge you will be killed all the time.
Third: The tutorial thing, ehhhhhh if there was a thing to talk about it in this tutorial you get to know 1% of the game basically.
The game will not tell you to repair a gen instead of unhooking the survivor immediately.
Also the hooking stages were not explained in the tutorial (the manual is just essay of text in my opinion, which is good don't get me wrong but i'm more of a eye learner i need to see it to learn it)
The killer powers, well yeah they're pretty bad explained as well, you need to go to the store page in order to see it when you don't have the killer unlocked which is crazy.
The grind, i think the meme "Help me" tell you exactly what it feels like, i give behaviour huge thumbs up for the mascarade event and now 2v8 which are good to just enjoy something new and refreshing for a change (like Mathew said earlier in the days XD)
I played a lot of dbd back in 2017 and recently got back into the game this year. However, I decided to just leave the game alone cause the game is like a chore to me. Playing survivor and killer doesn’t feel as fun as it did back then, cause there’s so much competition it ruins it for me. Especially since they introduce skill based matchmaking, with the new prestige system, there’s so much emphasis on grinding and competition. Maybe that’s just me, I figure a lot of people who play dbd nowadays likes the grind, and likes being challenged. But for a casual player like me, dead by daylight is completely out of my league now.
Mintskull, i love your videos, but as a Sable main, your videos have given me so many new ideas for combos 😂 I love that purple fit at the beginning
Sable has so much mix n match potential! Love her
I tried picking up the game a month ago, I quit 2 weeks afterwards;
- 50% because every 3rd or 4th survivor game was a killer sitting in the middle of the map afk farming bloodpoints, the match where I brought in double pink addons for the fun of it and got another gen slowdown Doctor was the breaking point for my uninstall
- 20% because the difficult part of the game (the looping) was actively detrimental to success to seek to practice and required several minutes to get into a chase just for me to make a mistake and get instantly downed most of the time, then have to wait 5-10 minutes to get into a new chase in a new game. I will say the times I didn't immediately screw everything up was really enjoyable, decently stretched out chases
- 20% because it wasn't fun to play, I still remember the names of 2 knight players, the only knight players I've fought, who only played the game by downing one person and camping that slug for 4 minutes, on top of regular tunneling and the anti-camping unhook feature being next to worthless
- 10% because I had to grind so much to get teachable perks for the build I wanted
Playing killer was really fun though, but then again, I never reached a point in which I was playing against survivors that my fps experienced aim on Huntress didn't carry me past
I feel like the best way to have a minimum amount of fun in this game is to play with friends
@@j4yd3n.d13dthis! And to not play it for man than 3 hours consecutively lol
@@LeGeeked.both are not good points
I tried getting my Best friend into the game, but its impossible. You have to be REALLY into the genre of game to enjoy it enough that you push through the sludge and try to enjoy it.
Sadly, that's how I see it too
Yeh I’m glad I got my friends into it like 4 years ago.
Even that long ago took time for them to understand.
I picked up this game about a year and a half ago and now have about 1500 hours. Its possible to get into at this late of stage.
The biggest lesson that DbD has taught me is that online game communities are the most toxic, despicable groups of people imaginable.
Good points! It's very hard to recommend DBD to new people, and it can be hard for even some casual players to keep up, when there are so many perks, killers, etc. to remember. And with the way tutorials and some explanations are, learning the game basically boils down to "fuck around and find out". Some people don't want to or have time to do that for hundreds of hours just to be decent at a game.
Speaking of tutorials and learning about how different killers work, one thing I dislike about the game is the fact that there's no way to try out killers you don't own without purchasing them first or playing in the PTB that's up for a limited time. Just reading or watching how a killer works is one thing and experiencing them another.
Besides updating the tutorial/manual to be more in depth with visual aids, I think it would be pretty cool to have a little trial game available for each killer where you get to try out killers and their powers, that'd be nice for both old and new players alike. They could have a "Try out!" button in the shop next to the characters or something. And if you could purchase perks separately, you wouldn't have to buy a killer you don't like or care about just to have their perks unlocked.
i remember the old tutorial having a good amoount of this missing info, telling the player about self healing, the basement, and chests. and for the killer tutorial you actually had to wait out the hook states (granted you didnt hook them all immediately) and the meg bot did kinda loop you to a degree. somehow like the old tutorial almost did better, or at least covered more topics. granted the game had a lot fewer mechanics at the time.
the scam of secrets is an absolute ridiculous mechanic, only 4 perks per week when there is over two hundred perks in the game, there's literally no reason to not give us a store where you can just buy the perks you want
47:05 lmmaaaaooooo, the man is right the scam of shrine have to be the worst thing in dbd
If it weren't for youtube vids explaining the game to me, I would have refunded it. The game's ability to teach itself might have been sufficient when everyone was new, but now that 95% of the community is experienced, trying to figure stuff out in-game isn't fun. I wish I could: practice in maps against all the AI killers, practice against AI survivors that don't wall hack with perfect map knowledge, and just be able to walk around maps to learn them outside of matches.
I gave up on understanding some killer powers. The worst one is that I still don't get how to solve Pinhead's box when a chain hunt is after you. I read somewhere to dodge 3 chains and then you get a short time to solve it, that you need to let the chains hit you and break them all together, that you need to do it behind cover, that someone has to assist by blocking the chains from hitting you, etc. I gave up on figuring it out and just hope for the best on the off chance that he shows up in a match🤞
I gave up understanding Skull merchant too. But at least that one is (hopefully) entirely personal from her 3gen era that I have not recovered from. Even after months, it's still too soon for me and I accept that.
Didn’t know you could solve it when chain hunt. Thought it was over by then 😂
That's pretty much it for Pinhead, either dodge the chains or hide behind some cover (and if they're running Impaling Wire, break the chains manually) but usually you wanna solve the box before the chain hunt activates
Don't forget dbd is not veteran friendly either, they took all the fun stuff out :(
Ye
Absolutely, I can’t believe they trivialized flashlight saves, that was literally one of the most satisfying things to do in that game now you just get it for free as long as you’re there when a survivor is being picked up
@@scrowfunk8109 I want clicking the beamer back
Shut up
DBD is morphing into the Fortnite of horror
Ok i’m old and i refuse to play fortnight.. What do you mean by that?😅
@@kim_yong_un it's grabbing up every license it possibly can, and they're getting them. It won't be a hard sell anymore to bring in an IP, and I'm hoping for "Thir13en Ghosts" with The Jackal and Dennis Rafkin (Matthew Lillard)
12:22 this is so true, I dont even have all my characters prestiged yet, but I play in the highest mmr with consisten p100 players and am able to keep up with the majority of them because I watch a lot of dbd content. That literally shows that just knowledge about the game alone can increase your skill level tremendously
I agree with most of your points but the hug tech and chucky flick were exploits and were borderline uncounterable they deserved removal after their respective ptbs
I won't debate Chucky flicks because I myself had very little experience against it (Plus, I think scamper is the worst issue with his kit!) but Hug Techs were not as broken in my opinion, since only the best of the best blights were able to do the crazy hug techs, and most Blights only knew the basic ones, which are, in my personal experience, easy to counter compared to Blight using speed addons to rush you normally!
I play on console unfortunately and whenever I face a pc blight With a £20 skin on doing hug techs and 260° flicks just makes me wanna DC same with oni there's nothing fair about hug techs i don't think its an very impressive play to break the game to get an advantage
Sounds like horrible matchmaking to me@@welshshortie2345
one thing that other games do with tutorials is have a simple tutorial for the very basics of the game, like controls and objectives, and then advanced or extra things in a extra optional tutorial, which would be a good help. Things like status effects, perks, items, totems/hex perks, etc woule be good to show.
Rocket racing in fortnite does this and it was actually really helpful for me to learn the game before jumping in
I feel this, my wife recently upgraded from Nintendo switch to PC. All of her characters and progress was non-transferable and she had to start all over again, buy everything again. It's ridiculous.
Honestly, it’s such a shame that a game in 2024 doesn’t have cross platform transfer. It’s ridiculous. If The COD devs can do it.. one of the most notorious greed cows in gaming, than there should be no reason it’s not present here.
they just added it lmao
@@ulisesmontalvo9606 Not for Switch.
My favorite tooltip in the loading screen is when the game tells you to throw down pallets so you can “create a diversion”, as if randomly slinging a pallet down will instantly make the killer stop what they’re doing to run over to you, and that somehow being a good use of a pallet.
Also, a lot if the bloat and confusion you’re talking about is only gonna get worse as Behaviour continues to pump new content into this nearly 10 year old game, I haven’t played in like a year and there’s already a mountain of new perks and killers I’ve never interacted with before and the only way you can catch up to speed on a lot of this stuff is by studying the wiki like you have a fucking test in two days, it’s kinda absurd
Glad i wasnt the only one who thought exposure was like an aura effect when i started, lmao. Also, for some reason, I thought Insidious would make me invisible. So you can just imagine this huge ass Nemesis standing on the edge of fuckin Sheltered Woods waiting for a survivor to pass, lmao
I am lucky enough to have had a person introduce me to the game and hold my hand throughout the beginning
I feel like dbd should take notes from fighting games and drop a extended gameplay video for new killers and survivors that explains each new power up and how effective they are in certain situations this could also be a way for them to explain why they added these abilities in the first place and there philosophy behind these moves
Not saying it's a bad idea, but as a fg player myself this has not really been a thing (and still isn't with most fighting games) there are a few games that do this. But even if they do, at that point you might as well look online for tips and such instead of looking at an official (not very in-depth) guide?
I think the only reason I enjoyed my first few matches of dbd and the reason I kept playing it was because I had already consumed dbd content so I knew it could be good
The exposed one is me🖐️! When I first used Noed i legit though that it would reveal all survivour aura when the last gen pops, was disappointed and ended up not using the perk to this day. I just wanted aura reveal perks huhuhu😭
im 35 mins in and while i do agree dbd is NOT beginner friendly, there's no such thing about this game that's grindy. this is the only game that isn't grindy in the slightest. getting bloodpoint is super easy, especially with the offerings. as long as you play the game, you will get bloodpoints, and you don't need a ton of bp to prestige.
When i started i thought keys were for unlocking chest faster😅
I had no idea what keys were for, because they talked about a "black lock" which I had no idea what that was!
Same. You have to then add items to the items to do different stuff 😂
I've been playing DBD since the game dropped, although I wasn't too into it back then now I have about 1K hours into DBD now, recently I played DBD with friends and man hearing everyone asking "what's this?" "what's that??", "I'm doing everything you did why am I dead already?", etc, etc.. I instantly noticed how overwhelmed new players must be, even if you buy all dlcs, watch hundreds of videos, use the strongest perks you can easily loose matches bc you still lack actual experience in the game, on average now it has to take at least 50-100 hours to understand a small portion of the game, another few hundred of hours to know how to loop killers and understand more perks and even more hours to continue learning more about the survivors and killers..hell even now I learned something new from these killers, it's just wayy to much for new players now :/
One thing that DBD should really do as well is make tutorials to introduce players to perk archetypes.
Like Boons, Hex's, Teamwork, Scourge Hooks etc etc, cause giving barebones examples of games can do very little to inform a player of what their perk actually does, cause nine times out of then some players both survivor and killer will slap on a perk just because its new rather than read what it actually does.
So Survivors would get a tutorial on how boons work and how its essential to get rid of hex's, obviously making it clear some hex's CAN be a trap cause of haunted grounds being a thing as well as informing them that some boons starting off aren't something to be concerned about, but at some point you need to find them. IE: Devour Hope.
This type of stuff will give players a rough idea of what every type of perk can do or is capable off as well as gives them the opportunity to use them in a test scenario, which can usually 'if it was done right' lead to a purchase of a DLC because a player may like a specific perk archetype.
I love the archetype suggestion, great idea!
@@MintSkull
Could you do a video about the farming servers blooming due to the BM event?
Like how the farming was done & only Steam players benefit from the farms, whereas everyone on other platforms loses.
Maybe Bhvr might do something, as the grind is mostly what keeps player retention
Great video. Sadly there are people and content creators who DEFEND p2w system and other bullshit like scum of secrets.
For easy example - recently i complain about very lazy changes in the shop under dbd youtube posts, but people there DEFENDED their scum systems and that its OK to have hardcore paywalled content in already PAUED game.
Times are bullshit. I miss good old 2000s when games were mostly games without milking them insanely and they were good. You didnt need to buy 100500 dlcs to be able to NORMALLY play the game.
Funny thing is in Dota 2 every character is free and only cosmetics are paid. In League u have to buy characters (with different prices) with either grind or IRL money but thanks to GamePass u can have every char unlocked aslong as u have the pass.
Average players are what keeps any game alive
Depends, that isn’t the case for a lot of games imo. ESPECIALLY fighting games. I just don’t think it’s so black and white ykow
@@LeGeeked. so you’re saying the majority of gamers spend 10 hours playing games and spend money buying game pass ?
If the answer is no
That means most players are Average gamers
@@LeGeeked. Fighting games are actually the worst example of this because all fighting games die so quickly because average players have a miserable experience in those.
@@itssupremetm touché, very fair point
Like you said this has been their financial strategy since Myers DLC, put all good/fun perks behind a paywall, a year later (if you're lucky) it may be in the shrine and then shortly after it will be nerfed. I never bought a single DLC for this game or any game for that matter. Sure BHVR is scummy for doing it, but in reality the community is also at fault for buying the DLC and going along with this moneygrab in the first place.
Dont forget the F2P looking ass skin shop with FOMO they added and the Battle passes.
What's crazy is the number of people insulting anyone who talks about this
It’s because casuals and noobs are seen in a negative way. “Skill issue” or “Just don’t be broke” are the things I hear the most when defending this game 😔
idk if its because I immediately payed for some stuff I wanted but I haven't found the game confusing as a new player
33:27 LMAO Otzdarva's seminares got me 😂😂😂😂e
While I don't _disagree_ per-say, a large-scale live-service game that constantly adds content on a regular basis (some of it licensed which they _have_ to sell for real money-only, BHVR has no real control over that) then unless the devs are procedurally making older content free then it's pretty logical that the new player experience will be worse. I'm not disagreeing, the new player ladder _is_ getting worse as time goes on, just saying it's not surprising.
Wow! MintSkull raging isn't something you hear every day.
I really don't understand why the other versions of the game include more Survivors/Killers for free. In many cases, they include CRUCIAL Survivors/Killers, which perks that are near mandatory for newer players cause it helps them a ton.
It does mean something when I recommend For Honor more then Dead by Daylight (I never even recommended DbD to someone ever)
And For Honor is another very beginner-non friendly game, which makes DbD even worse 😅
@@MintSkull exactly! But at least in For Honor you are kinda good to go when you just get the Basics right meanwhile in DbD there are like 500 different things that can change each Match (Perks, Killer, Add Ons, Maps, Map RNG etc.)
Wouldn’t dare
Dude... i have 100 hours and I barelly have 6 perks from killers I dont have and 4 teachable survivor perks, and I still eat shit alot because I cant compete with the whales that already have all the meta perks and addons. When was this game noob friendly?
In the beginnen when everyone was a noob and paid perks werent a thing.
Truly the worst for both ends
I started playing the game a few weeks ago and it feels like it’s going to take FOREVER to get all the perks and crap. I’m not made of money, so I will almost 100% never own all of the dlc. The shrine is a load of crap. I can’t avoid being tunneled because I can’t “just bring ds” which is dumb anyways because I shouldn’t have to take up a perk slot just to avoid being tunneled out at 5 gens. I don’t want to have to buy dlc for characters I don’t really care about just for a perk.
Personally I wouldn't recommend the game literally play anything else that is popular even League.
@@skeley6776 I can’t turn back now 😭
@@skeley6776League is 1000x worse of a new player experience.
@@_piranha if we are talking about bad tutorials and people smurfing on fresh accounts its basically the same as DBD but everything gameplay wise u can unlock with lvl 10 and a 1€ Gamepass subscription just make a new email every month and u will have all champs.
Me seeing this vid after I bought the game. 💀
Before i started playing i watched 1000 hours of otzdarva
Now ive watched 5000 hours of dbd gameplay and i can easly 4k 20k swf or loop 10k killers
I honestly recommend to just watch dbd and not play it, i couched a 30hr friend last week and ppl in his games are worse than bots so u dont even learn from players bellow 500 hours
i recently came back to the game after a few years of not playing and i was so lost lmao
Do you know that Sadako got reworked 3 times, Hillbilly and Trickster got buffs, and Twins is getting a rework soon? A lot of info to take in!
This was a great video. I’m at 2.5k hours and there were still a few things I didn’t know within. I can’t imagine just how daunting it must be for newcomers. I hope new buyers know, it’s a commitment!
as a person who is a beginner (started mid feb this year) it was definitely scary to understand at first. fortunately, i had friends who played the game around 2019 so they helped me a lot but a lot of people dont realise how overwhelming the game is at first (i fully just straight up did not notice perks until a week in)
i been saying this exact stuff for a long time and all people would do was downvote me
damn, i remembered how i used to think thats exhaustion cause hindrence. It was times, when crouching would speed up exhaustion recovery. I hopped on the game and didnt understand anything and just died a lot of times, then played killer, got all my hooks broken (or somebody from surviviour side had perk to disable auras of them, it was long ago, io dont remember) and quitted for about 4-6 years. Remembered about the game recently, gor decent, and now play very rarely due to it being boring af. This game is something else, i cant even explain it...
I forgot about the crouching to recover exhaustion thing!
@@MintSkull the funniest thing that is, I thought game more balanced than it was. I thought perks gives something in exchange to something, not a straight buffs. I know, the problem is me and, partially, poor translation to my language of the game (and it's still bad tho), but perks description was not very clear to me back then, and this whole thing (walking slower after burst of speed) looked pretty logical to me, ngl.
even if you watch otzdarva seminars to learn about the game, it is impossible to know for sure if you're knowledgeable about a killer since they have constant updates that nerf, buff and rework killers. So the only way to keep up is to stay in the conversation forever
DBD would benefit greatly from a guidebook that gives video footage for every mechanic in the game. And going through it should give you Bloodpoints to encourage players to not ignore it.
EDIT: Ah, you basically recommend that around at 29:00
Absolutely. I am thinking of doing something like this to help the community, or even the devs!
Something I learned in this video as someone who got into the game around a year and a half ago and has played for probably around 500 hours since then.
I had no idea that grades didn't factor into your MMR at all. And most people I talk to tall about them as ranks and not as badges. Like, it doesn't say that anywhere.
When i filled the sastifation survey for dbd in the last page in the bottom that said any thing you would like want in dbd i said "i would like you increase the iri shard gain on level to 500 at any level" to make the grind faster and to unlock stuff faster
The thing they should definitely tell you in the tutorial is how to nod. Some console players still don't know how😂
1 view in 53 seconds blud fell off😭
I’ve been thinking about getting DbD for a while now and a lot of stuff you talked about I didn’t know. I kept asking “What is that?! What would that do?” So your rant is very fair. Before I didn’t even know what a killer instinct was even though I have watched a good chunk of dbd videos. I wish they made the tutorials better.
An Apple the day, keeps the new players away.
(Anecdote from veteran player starting over)
I switched from Switch to PC, and it was incredibly eye-opening.
In my old account I had every perk and character unlocked, so I always wondered if the monetization and grind was that bad. And experimenting it first-hand; It is.
The only saving grace making me not wanna quit the game is that I have previous knowledge of the game from experimenting. So I just grab my survivor and killer mains, make a semi-decent build with both, and play a pretty bare-bones game.
Still fun, but nothing like the crazy meme builds and fun variety I had in my old account. Which is really sad because this game is a ton of fun, but that true fun it's buried so deep beneath the surface, it's unlikely a new player will ever reach it.
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I think most of the details in this video are 100% correct but the biggest issue is a word that is used over and over in this video and in the community at large - "COMPETITIVE"
This one single word and mindset is the biggest issue in the community and the main cause for 90% of the toxicity in the community.
I started playing DBD back when we had the old rank system - before SBMM and back then the "competitive" games were around rank 5 and above which is where all the skill matches were and the tech's etc which was fine because in the far lower ranks you had players who were learning and so it balanced out a lot.
Back then i was playing David - a character i still main today and i was using no-mither and resilience as it allowed me to do gens fast and killers would sometimes slug and so i could easily get myself back up if i couldnt avoid the killer most of the match.
This brings me to my point - since SBMM the main focus by content creators and a lot of the community has moved to this main push for competitive and so killers are told to tunnel and 3 gen because it helped get wins - survivors are told to use the "meta" because its the best way to win - its just non stop "best way to win" and that removed ALL the fun that used to happen in this game at lower ranks.
This is my personal opinion as to why most people quit the game early on - yes the grind is long but so is WoW and other games that people also sink thousands of hours into - the grind isnt bad when the game is FUN and DBD is no longer fun but a sweat shop. Until the community stop being so focused on competitive or until a competitive mode is added as a seperate thing DBD will continue to be the most miserable and unfun game.
I am lucky that i have a SWF that i play with and we spend most of our matches messing around and doing memes because we dont need to do anything, ive already 100% completed all achievements and tombs so until something new comes i dont have to care and even when a new DLC or tomb comes i can easily smash through it in a week or so after doing my full time job without having to try or play "competitive"
I get some people want that which is why i think it should have its own dedicated mode like most other games do but until that happens new players will get bullied out of the game because like big long term games - Eve Online as an example - it does take time to tearn and be good at for some and they will be treated poorly (especially in solo queue) if they are doing well enough when matched with competitive players
Ive seen the way players talk to each other in the end game chat and its terrible, as a killer ive had to give encouragement to new players after the match because the rest of their team have just been so toxic to them for being new - its this elitist view by a lot of the community that causes this.