The science and controversy behind your lightbulbs
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- The tech that powers your lightbulbs has made huge leaps forward in the past few years, and is making a big difference in home energy use. But shifting political winds are now threatening the lightbulb revolution that’s only just begun.
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What kind of lightbulbs do you use?
lampu minyak :v
LEDs for life
I did the maths at home with a nice spreadsheet. Initial investment in LEDs is a lot to do upfront but they pay for themselves in about a year. It's a no brainer nowadays. You'd be stupid to choose a anything over LEDs
Title of the video is missing „...in America „
LED but you still need incandescents to be available for things like Lava Lamps
What really bothers me about is that the video at no point mentioned that incandescent are banned in the EU since 2008. And btw, LED bulbs were available back then already.
@@disposable157 This video rarely (never?) focuses on anything in the US.
And no explanation that the LED are also UV!
@UCOU2IJG5vbIfmpG1iRShH7w
It's something in between, eu basically banned them, producers find some loophole for some case
Also,You can see from the page how wide the ban is worldwide en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_incandescent_light_bulbs#European_Union
@@float32 SOME LEDs do produce UVs but those are few in number and are not used by the average Joe. Even those lights produce so little UV that its hard to measure.
I don't think this is true, you can still buy incandescent light bulbs in the uk
I live in a developing country ... and whenever people see incandescent most would be shocked. No one, even the poorest who lives on a budget of less than $3 a day, uses incandescent anymore. Worst would be fluorescent, most are using LED. What the hell America.
I live in a developing country, but the living standards are quite high. Everybody uses incandescent lighbulbs, LEDs are a gimmick here.
As always the US... wanna different from other countries lmao
Yeah, incandescent lights are forbidden here since 2016
All over Europe, regular lightbulbs are banned since 10 years. It's not forbidden to use them, but one can only buy them from retailers who have them still in stock from before 2009...
America - not its people, but as an institution and governance suffer from systemic poverty in thinking despite all it's wealth and influence on the global stage. I shiver when I hear America is the greatest country in the world. That's good for you patriots, but there are nations freer and more innovative than America.
As they say, it's expensive to be poor
In my Australian city they give out free CFL bulbs. They even install them. All mine were put in for free.
@@TenOrbital stick with cfl…leds are designed to burn
The incandescent bulb in Asia are usually still being sold and used by farmer as heaters for hen and incubator for eggs.
They are very much needed in niche cases. We kept one in a vacant trailer to keep the pipes from freezing. Sure ban them in Brazil or India. But if you ban them in cold parts of the earth it will really hurt some people.
Yuppp ... Asians know right way to use things...I use them to make heat chambers for electronics testing 😜
What else can be used as a resistor that can withstand a high power load and dissipate the heat effectively?
@@Repurplecirculation
So incandescent light bulbs actually do make good resisters and heaters?
Next thing you know, the enviro-weirdos will seek to ban heaters?
@@yosefmacgruber1920 yeah as a chicken farmer i use incandescent bulb as heater for hen and compared to using gas as heater, the bulb is cheaper
Long story short: Buy LEDs and save money over time.
led bulbs are cheaper now than incandescent anyway easier and cheaper to make too.
Would have been nice if the reporter (who was great otherwise) actually quantified the life span. Rough rule of thumb in the UK. LED lasts 10 times longer. At 2 the price it's still kind of a no brained.
the cheap ones can fail really quick
@@zer0b0t especially when you spray them with water pistols.
If your house is efficient and your country produces energy with renewables and nuclear, waste heat is no problem. Old style bulbs are dead easy to manufacture, and the waste heat is just load of central heating.
In India, Government was providing LED bulbs for 80 RS that is almost $1
you forgot to add ^free.
That money was received as CO2 emission compensation from developed countries..
In Indonesia there's actually a company selling LED bulbs just for around 50 cents
@@ariadrian69 but price depends on watts you would also get 50cent LED in India too. a typical 9watt would cost $1
Power companies in my state give out a box to every household, 2 CFL and 2 led bulbs for free
Wait I’m confused at 5:01
44% fluorescent
14% LED
6% incandescent
So where’s the remaining 36%? Candles? Phone flashlights?
Probably Halogen, High Pressure Sodium, and Metal Halide bulbs. Most of those are used for security lights.
You don't need to pick all of bulbs while making a video about 3 specific lightbulbs. Like you don't need the Y and X always starting at 0
It's wrong, it's not 44% fluorescent, it's 44% CFLs. The rest is more conventional fluorescent tubes, halogens, etc.
Take a look at the Las Vegas strip.
They use Sun at daytime and Stars at night.
Hope this answer your curiosity.
Who doesn't use LEDs or fluorescent in 2019?? Here in Italy incandescent lights are so rare...
Americans. So many are conspiracy theorists.
I had a lot of incandescent bulbs that I threw away recently. They were bought back before the price of LED's became reasonable. I want to save money, and help the environment.
@@vids595 There are specific LED bulbs designed to be used for dimmers, but not all dimmers work as well. Current price for 60W equivalents is about $2 when bought in bulk, so they are no longer anywhere near 25x the initial purchase price. Life is MUCH longer than incandescents provided you don't let them get too hot, but they may well fail early if you try to run some non dimmable bulbs on a dimmer- you need special bulbs, they're a bit more expensive than $2, but still nothing like 25x.
@@BooBaddyBig 2nd that. I've replaced almost all the light fixture bulbs with smart/LED bulbs and many of the fixtures are dimmable. I've had fantastic results and the price has not been exorbitant. I remember when it was but now, there's simply no excuse for choosing incandescent when you can get LED. Even the lumen quality is gorgeous.
"Americans. So many are conspiracy theorists." You mean like "men with penises can get pregnant"? Or that vaccinations cause autism? Wait, that's the left's "science." You said "conspiracy." Pray tell, WHAT conspiracy revolving around LED lighting you're talking about, child.
"The race for efficiency really heated up." This is so ironic because more efficient lights create less heat.
Christopher DuVall I work from home, and my 6 Hue LEDs generate a lot of heat. Not as much as the old ones, but enough to make me sweat if it's on for a while
@@jhtrico1850 I smell inefficiency here..
Aji Setiawan I hope for heatless or at least lukewarm lights in the future. Even the newest LEDs, smart or not, get pretty hot after a while. Makes the AC work harder in summer
John Huynh That’s probably not because of the lights, but the extra electronics inside
A thing to note is that LEDS are also incredibly adaptable in form factor. There's a bajillion ways to arrange those diodes. So much so that there are LEDs which mimic the old Edison filament bulbs using tiny strings of LEDs. They look amazing
Ooh that seems interesting
Is there a good replacement for tube tungsten bulbs such as the T3 format? I can only find ones that are large corn cob shaped that don't fit existing fixtures.
I bought some of those. Actually I bought several of them, $2 for 4 at walmart. They were on clearance I bought like 15 4packs
yep. we've swapped out all our incandescent bulbs as of a few years ago but just recently in the last 6 months, I've been replacing the decorative bulbs with the clear LED edison style bulbs. They are just as, if not brighter, than the incandescent/CFL bulbs, just as cheap and I have not had a single LED bulb fail since I started installing them.
And now, the smart RGB LED bulbs are dirt cheap too. The HUE bulbs (still expensive) used to be one of the only options but I have installed about 4 smart bulbs now and paid maybe $8 per bulb and work really well with Alexa. It's let us set smarter timers (like automatically turning them on with a slow progressive brightness increase in the mornings to wake us and the kids up) as well as soften the rooms at night with less bright and warmer color lights or change colors if we're watching a movie. I thought they would be a gimmick but I really like them and when we have guests over, not only are they really impressed with how neat the room can look but also at how inexpensive they were and how much you can do with them.
FastRedPonyCar man I gotta get me some of those to work with my Alexa that sounds pretty cool
Life Hack! you can buy LED bulbs at "Dollar Tree" for $1.
My whole house is LED now, also you can buy them online, even less then $1.
At this point there is no issue because the cheap LED bulbs are basically the same price as incandescent and getting cheaper, and the bulbs last 5 times as long and 5 times cheaper energy cost, its not the end of the world, people are naturally converting to LED without needing to force them.
All the more reason that tRump's policy is so outrageous!
And at IKEA for 70 cents
@@someguy2135 - Forcing manufacturers to compete on price with incandescent bulbs is what drove down the prices. Some people have commented that their government subsidizes the cost of LED bulbs, but that just means that they are paying a LOT more for them, because we all know that companies never lower their prices for government purchases. Any time that a third-party payer is involved, the actual cost is increased at least 40%. Ask them what their tax rates look like, how much of their paycheck they get to keep, and what their cost of living is like.
@@SaysEveryone The price of bulbs is not a problem here in the USA. They are cheap. The problem is climate change which incandescent bulbs make worse compared to LED's and even CFL's. Trump's policy increases the chance that incandescent bulbs will stick around.
Were there $1 LED bulbs in the stores in 2008?
As a student, I swap out the bulbs in the place I stay, if I have to pay for power, with LEDs, and swap them again when I leave, they’ll last around 10years, no way imma let my land lord keep em.
In the UK, rented homes have to reach a minimum energy efficiency level, it gets inspected once a decade for things like insulation, efficient appliances etc...
When I moved in the house was full of incandescent bulbs, I replaced them with LED bulbs. Later when the inspector came he gave the home extra points for having all-LED bulbs. This meant the landlord wasn't legally required to install any insulation (to the uninsulated house) as it exceeded the minimum standard...
I'm just pissed I didn't put the landlord's own bulbs back in before the inspector came... That way he'd probably have had to install insulation and I'd be warmer and pay less for heating.
As a landlord, I have light bulbs in the fixtures when the renters move in. They take them when they move out. Not quite right.
@@mrnt1257 Can't you just take their deposit to cover these costs?
Oscar vL Generally the deposit doesn’t begin to cover the amount of damage. And if I tried to charge them a big enough deposit they wouldn’t rent from me. That’s just the way it is. At least where I live.
@@mrnt1257 You should sell up then.
Bulbs? I am from Serbia (European country, less developed than US, average salaries around 400-450$), and i installed LED light stripes to whole house. Investment cost around 100$, and after 3 year not the one light point died (or how you call them). Everyone of thousands of them work until now. Electrical bill is lower, light in house is lot better. I even convince my family to do same in their house, and they are very pleased with result. Bulbs are past. LED lights stripes are future. Maybe i will install new one. I seen many great ideas what I could do with them on YT.
i'd say they are called leds^^ led stripes are basicly just flexible pcbs with leds on them :)
I had an $18 LED light bulb which died after 18 months. Not a great inspiration of newish technology.
@@scotthullinger9955 I have dozens of LED bulbs in my house since 11 years. Only one of them died. It was the cheap variety from 'Action' store (worst store in Europe).
Now that I think about it, you can buy 12v led stripes for cheap, and use a 9v power supply to drive them. This way you increase their lifetime by a lot.
Manufacturers often power them to their safe maximum, crappier bulbs would overpower them causing premature failure
probably just the led driver(power components) that failed from overheating
Who cares what orange man says, just buy LED lights and you’ll be happy
@@petercarioscia9189 nice nickname using dead memes
It allows companies to promote more bulbs... Which needs to be replaced more often... Thus, more profits for them... Thats why they didn't promote CFLs for 25 years since their innovation
It's not the lamp. His artificial tan is bad.
HAD to buy LEDs - not happy. Quality of light inferior for my purposes, and have to run the heater more to compensate for heat not generated by the lights. Saving ZERO money on power. Just lost the right to chose what type of bulb works for my application.
@@badgerrrlattin35 We are talking about home lighting, domestic use. What application uses lights to heat the ambient?
Speaking on a personal basis, I can state that our household (in the UK) started switching over to high efficiency lamps during the 1990s. Because these lamps tend to last for a very long time, we have accrued a box full of spares. The spare lamps had been in a box for so long that I had forgotten that they were there, and had needlessly purchased a replacement in 2018 when one had failed.
Stick with cfl…leds are designed to burn and break
@@o_o-_-8639 Some of the LEDs do fail. We've also had CFLs burn out in confined spaces. Not all products meet with the predicted life expectancies.
2:30 don’t screw it by the glass. It may break. Screw it by the base of the bulb instead.
Yeah, and the grease from your hand may cause it to burn.
Or, let her continue until one breaks, and then she can switch. Some are even plastic, not glass. I doubt she actually has to worry.
Ive been working with LEDs for past 7 years, They Last 2+ times more than the rivals, its worth paying 2 or 3 times the price. Its super cheap these days
And dont heat your house up
As an Aussie thats a huge plus
I was just thinking about it at the start of this vid
the AC isnt running as hard, and the light is more natural
I love them LEDs (Hate fluorescent)
@@sphericalred and dont give you that headache from the frequency
They sure don't last in my area. Here they burn out faster than the old incandescent bulbs. I can get an incandescent for a dollar or two, but LEDs sure as heck cannot be bought for $2-$4, try $9 and up. And I don't even get the extra heat in the winter to help lower my gas bill...
@@TrojanHorse1959
" Here they burn out faster than the old incandescent bulbs."
I dont believe you
What brand?
Utilitech, and I don't care if you believe me or not, it's a fact. I've had them burn out two days after installing them. I love the idea of LED bulbs, but they just don't meet up with expectations yet for me.
I’m in Australia and an electrician called us and asked if we wanted to swap our lights to LED for free.
They swapped em, no money paid. Pretty sure it was a government program.
America step up.
I heard in some areas of united states power companies do that too, but you have to apply and then if you meet the standards you get it
...Which is to say, "America, pay Australia (amount of) taxes."
@@Lengsel7 I dunno - We don't have to pay 20% in tips for everything. That becomes a tax.
@@--Nath-- We don't usually pay nearly that much, or for nearly that many places, unless maybe for a large group at a sit-down restaurant, then it's usually 18% or so.
Kitto you got coned say good by to your eyesight.
To me regulations do not matter, I will choose a more efficient and cheaper to run source of light, I used to use CFL and now I use LED, 100% of my house is LED lit.
Unfortunately, that's only you.
Good story, but misguided on LEDs being too expensive for poor people. Here in California, one can buy high quality CRI > 90 LEDs at the 99 Cent Store or Dollar Tree. Our electric company, So Cal Edison subsidizes these (says right on the box). I've tested them against my $17 Costco bulbs (no joke), and the light quality is just the same.
There's that magic word: "subsidize." Just like I get to subsidize my neighbor's solar panels by paying the highest rates for his electricity and he gets very generous tax writeoffs for his rooftop array, which I also pay for. He gets all of the advantages, I get the bill. Government in action. Who exactly is misguided here?
@@demef758 Obviously you are the misguided one. Why aren't you taking advantage of lower energy bills? You are whining about spending more money while not doing anything yourself to improve your situation. Are you one of these people who pay more for lower quality for the sake of tribal identification? Power companies actually like residential customers to use less power. It reduces their overhead costs for their most regulated ratepayers.
BTW, "Tax what you don't want. Don't tax what you do want" is a basic libertarian principle.
$17 each? No way, here across the border it's $17 Canadian pesos for 4 pack of CRI 90 bulbs with no subsidy.
I think this is becoming the norm rather than a consequence of subsidies. LED bulbs have gotten so incredibly cheap. They sell them in Poundland (UK dollar store) without any subsidies for £1 ($1.31).
Like all technology, when it goes mainstream it becomes affordable to the masses.
@@Oscar-if6lq Ha ha! Poundland!! (Sorry... USAian)
There are warmer CFLs that are more incandescent. I appreciated the spectral distribution curves and loved it was more technical but also should've mentioned CRI and color temperature. Also most LEDs don't get a warmer color as you dim as an incandescent bulb would.
LED bulbs with 2700 K colour temp. are readily available in the market
@C.J. Tymczak I'm using dimmable LEDs already and I can control them with my phone. The slightly more expensive model allows the user to change the color temperature as well, but I didn't need this since I prefer warm light in all situations.
They exist but cost more, they have 2 sets of LED chips inside, as you dim them, it switch over the amber ones.
2700k dimmable leds are not the same as incandescent filament lights in terms of performance. Leds are brighter per watt but tend to produce a stroboscopic effect which becomes more pronounced as the light dims down due to having to rely on pulse width modulation not amperage modulation. Also true 2700k leds use blue gallium nitride leds coated with a yellow tint film to present as 2700k so they look more like a blue light source and a yellow light source mixed together. Im not saying that incandescent is better for all applications but that it does have its area of best use. I am also stating that leds are not perfect for all applications either but are best suited to their specific enviroment. In conclusion as with everything the correct tool for the correct job is important.
What the hell America. What the hell.
It's almost 2020 and you have to educate people about the advantages of LEDs?
And you have people chanting in favour of the incandescents?
It's a fu**ing antiquated waste of energy.
@Alan Hardcastle What is massively misleading? Don't just leave a generic comment. Make an actual argument. We know LEDs are much more efficient than incandescents. What else do we need to know?
@Alan Hardcastle I too am interested in what exactly is "massively misleading" in this video
@Alan Hardcastle whats misleading about it please back yourself up
I live in Alabama. I have not seen anyone use an incandescent bulb anywhere in several years so.....
Alan Hardcastle Sometimes we actually need the government telling us how to do stuff.
If you live in a part of the country where it is below freezing, an incandescent bulb is a really good source of heat. It is expensive heat compared to natural gas heating, but it does add heat to the house. In the winter when the temperatures would drop to sub-zero levels (below 0 F, -18C) my grandmother used to put a lit 100 Watt light bulb under her car's hood to heat up the engine and a large blanket over the front grill to keep the heat from flowing out the front, and it worked, it kept the engine warm so it had no problem starting in the morning (now we have synthetic oil to avoid that problem). If you have areas of the house that have a light that gets turned on, then off a few seconds later (like a closet), then a simple incandescent bulb is all you really need. If you have an OVEN, and it has a light in it, you need to use an incandescent bulb there as anything else will melt in the heat. But generally, in almost every spot in the house, it better put an LED lamp there to save on electricity costs.
One thing that's worth noting is that not all LED bulbs have a high CRI. However, most of the bulbs you'll find in stores nowadays have pretty good CRI, and you can easily look for really good ones if you need that, since most have it printed on the side of the box.
when she said "a decade ago" i thought the 90's but then i felt old cuz a decade ago were the 2000's
2010s ftfy
A decade ago is the 2010s.
Yeah, your about to feel a lot older when we break the news to you
Damn, i thought decade ago is 1950. I guess im in the wrong timeline.
"10 years ago" will ALWAYS mean the 90s to me.
100% LED throughout my home. Every lamp, even the ceiling fan.7
How about your appliance bulbs? I had a Sense monitor installed when I got my solar system and my fridge has 3 40W incans and freezer has 1. 120W spike every time the fridge was opened. Now I have 4W LED appliance bulbs inside, and the lighting is much better and brighter!
@@angelorusso3219 not yet... But good idea :)
One thing I like Is that they've gotten energy efficient enough to handle them whilst on without being burned. Can remember you couldn't do that several years back.
"There are incandescent, fluorescent, LED... It's a lot"
Actually no, basically are just these 3
Halogens? What about sodium lamps and mercury lamps?
There are a lot of types, we just have no idea which one is the "best" yet. LEDs are great, but for whatever reason, some people might prefer a different type due to the very specific way it produces that light. Something like that. :/
@@nablachi819 you're right, I remembered about these
Although consigned to nightlights there is also gas discharge (neon) and Electroluminescent. I read about plans to make Cathode Ray Tube Lights (or something that uses that principle. Radiowaves??) but nothing seems to have come of it. LEDs may have improved too much to make it practical.
Don’t forget HMI. Used in warehouses.
The price factor argument is wrong. If you go to Walmart a 4 pack of led 60 watt equivalents are about 1$ a 4 pack of incandescent 60 watt bulbs are almost 4$.
That's not true here in Ky. Just bought lightbulbs a couple days ago, it was $8 for a 4 pack of LEDs and $2 for a two pack of incandescent. I just checked Walmart's website though, and they are cheaper online, and they don't even have the same incandescents listed, and they have to be shipped to store, so I'm assuming they're just selling their remaining stock.
Jake Steel, remember in this video they pointed out that only in *impoverished* neighborhoods in the US are the retailers selling LED bulbs at higher prices than elsewhere in the country. This is called price-gouging and is intended to exploit the poor who often don't have internet access and can't travel that far to go to a wealthier neighborhood to buy fairly-priced LED bulbs. These unethical retailers know that the less-privileged citizens in their area can't afford to travel far from home and only have access to their store and also know that most of these shoppers will *want* to buy LED bulbs to save money on energy bills in the long-term since they are impoverished, so the retailers set ridiculously high prices on the more-desirable LED bulbs since their customers have no option to shop elsewhere.
@@dwiser3242 then you are a chump.
Although almost all of the lights in my home have been replaced by CFLs or LEDs, I still keep and use some incandescent light bulbs. They're warm, the color is pleasing, especially suitable for reading in cold winter days. And its color rendering index is unbeatable. Incandescent lights will always be with us, for they still have some special use cases, but they won't be mainstream any more. We really don't need to worry too much about what kind of light bulbs we use, for keeping the lights off when you're away makes a bigger difference. 🤔
Simply speaking,
No.
Just just....no.
Please just no.
I shouldn't been having to explain myself about this in almost 2020 but
here we are.
The older lights crank ur bill up - BAD
Renders light good? - No,cuz LEDS have a colour variation on will.
Warmer light- Sorry but that's just ur light bulb wasting 90+% energy
Also LED bulbs emit realistic daylight. Which is good.
@@altrshakib9449 he just explained to you why he uses some older bulbs.... no need for the arrogant hitler act.. If people want them, and are willing to pay for them, mind your own business.
Try LED filliment bulbs their better then incandescent while looking similar
One of the great options with LEDs is that you can buy them in strips for lighting in lines rather than point sources. This works great for kitchens, shops, and even under counter and shelf lighting. It giver a nice source of almost omnidirectional light, and is great for standalone solar lications where energy efficiency is important.
I know this probably sounds like an ad, but we tried a few strips here, and they really helped. I'm going to try them in every room.
When I bought my house 13 years ago, I ran out and purchased CFLs and replaced every light in the house. Worst decision I ever made! The quality of the light was horrible! The big problem was the constant flicker. I have eyesight problems and I found the CFLs to be impossible to read with and found the light tiring (they bothered my nystagmus). Within a year, at least half of them had been disposed of and I swore I would never use anything but incandescents again.
With LED lights, I have taken a more cautious approach. I find them glaring, even in the warm white that I usually buy. There is a noticeable flicker, but not nearly as bad as the CFL bulbs. I have about 85% of my lights replaced with LEDs now, and the other 15% may never be replaced. Most if not all of them are in places where I care about the quality of the light. This includes my bedside reading lights (used around 30 minutes per day), the chandelier in my dining room (used probably 2 hours a week), my bathroom lights (it is hard to shave with the flicker), and my Christmas lights (used 5 hours a day, for three weeks each year). None of the lights that I intend to keep incandescent are used heavily, most are low wattage and I am happy that President Trump gave me the option of deciding what is is the best for me.
Oh, and here in Ohio the worst use for LED lights is in stop lights! The LEDs don't melt the ice and snow so the stop light is often not visible!
The best use for LED lights: closets! They are less likely to start a fire, but as little as closet lights get turned on, you will never save money here!
I appreciate your incredibly thoughtful approach to your home lighting. However trump did nothing to protect you from having to switch away from incandescent. The federal government was never planning on banning incandescent. So I am not sure why such a thoughtful person watched this video but still agrees with the rollback of these new regulations. The law passing had a direct effect on the amount of lighting options you have for your home.
The issue isn't that people will only have one type of lighting to choose from, the issue is that unless regulations help the majority of consumers to switch to more efficient bulbs, everyone loses money, and everyone loses efficiency. So money and power being lost. More fossil fuels burned, etc. It just does not make any sense. Unless the regulatory rollback is designed to please your lobbyists and voter base. In which case mission accomplished.
MrBosor Very well framed and thought out answer! Amen 🙏
President Trump's rollback of the regulations increased the options available for consumers by including incandescent bulbs as an option. The specific bulbs that would not be available are "specialty bulbs" which would include those for my dining room chandelier, reading lights. Because of this rollback, I have the ability to continue buying these bulbs as incandescents. LED bulbs are available today for these fixtures. I choose not to use them. My buying options have increased. Once again, the majority of my lights are LED including all of the high wattage bulbs. It is only where quality of light is paramount that I have retained incandescents.
I did purchase a stash of 60 watt bulbs right before they stopped selling incandescents. The stash is untouched as I have never needed (or wanted) them.
@@millardiii Glad the poor kids that live next to the power plant have "the option of deciding" whether to get asthma or not.
Wow finally a smart intuitive man different from the 99.9999 drones who just follow the trends. My bedroom and bathroom have incandescents while my outdoor lighting is cfl/led. The verge is being disingenuous with its one sided info.
I only use high pressure sodium lamps in my house.
So yellow
Why not use gas lights?
Alan Burr Coleman pressurized single mantel gas lantern gang rise up
Kind of an orange color. GE called them the golden glow.
Low Pressure Sodium lamps are the Yellow ones.
VERY Yellow. You should look into that before you stick with your assessment.
What are you growing :D
Ah yes, that's indeed a must-have for the warmth of the color, I hate the fact they are hard to find on DIY stores here, generally you end up with tinted halogens.
Wait a minute. Incandescent bulbs are cheaper ? On Amazon a 24 pack of Sylvania 60w equivalent LED costs $23. A 16 pack of Amazon basic 60w incandescent bulbs costs $24.
M Detlef OMG
@@metanumia Are you kidding me? Have you been to a Walmart? You can get LED bulbs for like a dollar a bulb! How many light bulbs are people buying a year that it cuts into a person's budget??
Would like to see more research on the psychological/physiological effects of exposure to the limited wavelengths these new bulbs produce.
As a lighting engineer, this video oversimplifies some things about lighting technology, especially the lighting spectra.
Just in the past 2 or so years, we have been able to make LEDs that come quite close to the spectrum of sunlight (e.g. Nichia Optisolis, Bridgelux Thrive, Seoul Semiconductor Sunlike-although none are widely available in finished products yet), much closer than the typical "blue spike" spectrum shown in the video. We are also able to cut down blue for evening applications (e.g. in my product, Bedtime Bulb) to reduce circadian rhythm disruption from blue light.
Nevertheless, this video is very helpful for understanding the context of the rapid shift toward LED, and the rollback of the "incandescent ban."
I hear you. It's hard to describe how the different wave lengths look and affect people unless a person is just really into lighting. It's one of the reasons I love working with lighting in theaters and on movie/television sets.
@@FletcherFinance Definitely! I can't blame them for trying to simplify a very complex subject. Just I'd disagree that a typical daylight LED spectrum is "more like sunlight."
@@GregYeutter Exactly! I can't tell you how many times I've tried explaining this to people, only to get a glazed over eye look after a couple minutes.
@@FletcherFinance Things like TM-30 give us job security, haha
New study that just came out, showed that blue light had no effect on sleep cycles. There's a SciShow video on it.
lol i am from india and have never seen incandescent bulbs for a long time now
Same
Its been like 10 years now
or standard hygiene id warrant.
@@No1More1Mr1Nice1Guy1 stop this
I an from india too, i never seen a toilet
Here in the UK if you go to a discount store you can get a 1400 lumen / 15w LED bulb for £2.99
Even just for £1 lmao
£ 3 is not that cheap
Funky Sagan Cat it is when you consider it’ll last 2-3 years
@@lasarith2 I'm sorry if wasn't very clear, I can understand that to people living in the UK it might make sense to buy leds with this price, what I meant is that to most of us in the rest of the world £3 is a considerably large amout of money to pay in a lamp, due to exchange rates this is 5 times more than I would pay in an LED
I think that people in some places like India are paying even less than me for them
I worked with a company that gave free energy upgrades to low income communities in the Bay Area, it included installing free LED lightbulbs along with educating the homeowners about little things they can do to save water and energy in their daily lives, all for free! The best job i've ever had!
I like LEDs
They dont heat up my room (Australian here)
America should be offering free replacements of incandescents like some Australian states are doing
Never happenings i guess... the money goes to military lol
That would require taxes to go up which isn’t going to happen as some people don’t want to pay for “lazy people”
@@gemulgaming4014 The US government can still hand out LEDs to reduce the amount of food stamp customers. Why should people spend their money on wasting energy when they can spend it on food?
Here's a database of all of the programs around america that provide incentives www.dsireusa.org/
And who is gonna pay for that?
5:01 Is the other 36% still using candle light? This seems like a bigger issue to me...
High pressure sodium are common in business and night lights still.
Apparently halogen lamps account for about 37% (all the figures are approximated) of the market in 2016 (when the graph ends). Source: www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/03/08/climate/light-bulb-efficiency.html
@@pumaconcolor2855 Halogens are just a variation of incandescents, they still have a filament.
@@nakayle The data presented in the video for "incandescent" tracks with what the source I listed labels "traditional incandescent".
In the video the sum doesn't add to 100% and the missing fraction corresponds to what the source labels "halogen incandescent".
- Halogens (granted, “incandescent” is misleading)
- Fluorescent tubes
Just stumbled across this channel very entertaining and informative thank you!!! ( just subscribed )☺️
I was in the lighting game for several years back in the late 1990’s, and yes - LEDs are the best answer nowadays. Like CFL lamps though, we ought to consider the full life cycle costs. The end-to-end materials and fabrication costs and energy footprint are important.
Can you stop for a moment and applaud her excellent voice and explanation skills. 🙌👌
the narration sounds like a high school student reading their report in front of the class. It's amateurish and poorly delivered with uptalk and non-sequitur statements.
The weird body movement time to time annoyed me a lot...
Wait what, the USA still sells incandescent lightbulbs? It has been forbidden in Brazil since ... well I can't remember, even the poorest uses CFL lightbulbs, it's rare to see incandescent lightbulbs, people really care about having low energy bills, or bright if they are stealing energy...
GBA811 it doesn’t help power is so cheap here. A kilowatt hour in northeast Brazil is around 50 cents here it’s around 10 cents or so depending where you live. Unfortunately this means people care less about how much power they use. Especially the ones who are so adamant about keeping things the way they are. They don’t care the new bulbs use less energy they just want what they are used to. I used to work at a grocery store and this older guy was super upset that we didn’t sell incandescent bulbs anymore.
@@zombiebillcosby lucky they have these new LED bulbs that are built to look just like incandescent, for those sentimental people.
Unlawful_Falafel oh yea for sure and I went to the Dollar Tree and picked up LED bulbs for $1 each. The older bulbs are terrible, sure the light they put out is nice, but at the expense of heat, terrible waste of power, and potential to burn yourself and the environment around you. Easy Bake ovens were just little incandescent bulbs in a small box lol.
Doug Wiser try heat with absolutely no central cooling. Even though I’m from there originally I always hated the heat. You get used to it a little but still it’s unbearable at some points. At least in the US you have climate controlled environments. Also this is northeast Brazil south Brazil gets cold and you have the opposite problem, no central heating.
I remember being in high school math class and graphing trends of energy use versus upfront cost of light bulbs. The other option was halogen instead of LED. We compared incandescent, CFL, and halogen. LED existed, but it was very expensive.
Learn a lot from this, thanks
We have coloured Philips Hue throughout the house. They are brilliant!
Ryan Donnelly same! They are great. All the automation stuff and smooth dimming 🤤
@@santerixdxd yep, what's a switch for? Just touch the phone
@@royk7712 yeah, it's great especially when you can't be bothered to move from the couch to turn the lights on/off 😂
They have terrible CRI
Wait, America still uses incandescent??
CatCraftYT 5% of them, apparently.
CatCraftYT I don’t know anyone that uses them
@@Jack-ou4it that's good
Boomers do
@@CatCraftYT my whole house is a mix of CFL and LED
We've recently made the swtich from halogen to CFLs in our studio. They're great! They produce more light (at 5600K), produce significantly less heat (if any at all), use a lot less power, and have 20 times the life (5000 hours MTBF). Pretty amazing. Thanks for this video.
“There are incandescent, fluorescents, LEDs, it’s a lot...” I counted 3, that’s manageable
Thanks for reminding me to buy a lightbulb
Another advantage of LED bulbs over incandescent bulbs is that you need to spend more money on electricity for extra air conditioning to overcome the extra heat produced by the old fashioned kind.
Some Guy What? How many lightbulbs do you have in your rooms?
@@volpedo2000 I am not saying the heat is noticeable, but it is measurable. It is one of many factors that affect your power bills and combined with every other building, climate change. It all adds up.
I recently switched to LED bulbs and I find them to be far superior to incandescent and CFL bulbs. I can't imagine why anyone would want anything else.
If it wasn’t a ban, and people could still have them if they wanted, what’s the problem? What would the paper really achieve
4:35 quite misleading. LEDs can be chosen to be narrow, cheap LEDs for lighting are terrible leaning into bluish light, worse than a CFL.
Some places like California have regulations that mandate 90+ CRI for LED.
I know, that graph is NOT your typical CRI 80 bulb, there's way less reds
The nature of LEDs means they can be adjusted to give any colour in reason. The notion LEDs are bluer (or colder, the normal parlance) is actually not true, outdated and far truer of cfls. In fact modern LEDs are pushed to give full spectrum at lower intensity for colour fidelity and boosted at lower frequencies to give a warmer (redder) tone closer to the incandescent people love. Higher frequency bluer light leds are actually harder to produce and less energy efficient. The equal tone LEDs that were more popular to begin with may appear bluer on account they would treat all frequencies equally but truthfully they all lean red as lower frequencies being lower in energy have greater intensity or luminosity at equal tone.
Doesn’t even mention how LED light bulbs come in two frequencies, 30 and 60 hz. 30 gives people headaches
I was a lighting engineer. LEDs that last forever where developed 30 years ago. The industry soon realised this technology would render their industry redundant in a few short years, so it seems they have removed this technology from the market.
The very first Philips LEDs last forever, I have a bunch of the early LED bulbs with the three yellow lenses for the LEDs and not one has failed, there are still use cases for the long lasting LEDs but mainly in niche cases like GM check engine lights or Lindhaus bag/clog indicators
Nicely informative, thank you.
It amazes me how people even in the end of 2019 still don't understand that CFL phosphors have actually been able to be further engineered to produce more color types. She was using a cooler CCT CFL and criticizing its 3500+K color temperature as if all CFLs looked like that. BS. Even in the past, phosphors were developed to allow for CFLs to put out soft white light much like an incandescent bulb
And also higher CRI, that video is messed up
@@daijoubu4529 Yeah that's been engineered too, but those kinda came out a bit late in the market as the CFL is already well on its way out
But nobody stopped to consider the health implications of some of these newer Technologies. For people like me with chronic migraines fluorescent light bulbs are an incredible trigger I cannot be around them
Feels like this was made 10 years ago. In Europe this isn't a discussion anymore, and CFLs aren't used anymore, and incandescents were banned some years ago.
Jesus. Never screw in a CFL like that!
kinda over reacting tbh. id always screw them in like that and ive never broken one.
How else would you do it??
@@200odd300 by the base. Never by the glass coil!
How tightly do you hold lightbulbs, pal?
@@thebody62 As tight as you want to buddy. You can't break the plastic base.
if you guys just looked around you find out the Dollar Tree sold LED light bulbs now don't tell me that's not cheap it's literally a dollar
Helaman Gile often really cheap LEDs aren’t very good because their circuitry is terrible so they last not nearly as long
@@Tman20rox have you heard of planned obsolescence
I bought one of their led bulb made by the company that owns dollartree. Didn't last 2 months. Would sit there and flash trying to turn on. The ones they sell by Sunbeam have no problems with so far.
Show me a video of a dollar store selling LED’s for 1$ and i will personally cashapp u 10$ ... sounds like the typical 2$ item to me
LED bulbs at Dollar Tree are not a dollar.
I bought a box of spare incandescent lightbulbs when the ban was announced. But also put LED in a few locations. Most efficient old style lamps were high power. So it is common to have one 100W bulb per ceiling light in a ceramic or bakelite socket. But LEDs can't tolerate much heat and therefore it is beneficial to use several low power lamps instead. With 10W or more in an enclosure as a direct replacement the LED retrofit dies quickly. You are free to buy what you want without forcing a law onto others and involving politics. Most lights in public locations were already some form of gas discharge lamp, and at home lights are only switched on when needed.
The scam on the led bulb was it's going to use less electricity and save money
It does use less electricity and saved money on your power bill
Until the power company jacked up your rates the 23% you were supposed to save 5 years later
Thanks power company's your so thoughtful
Edison did not invent the Light Bulb someone else did so no credit to Edison
Agreed
Edison invented the first practical, commercially viable light bulb. Let me guess, you hate America, right? Just to pile on, an American invented the LED bulb, too.
Edison invented first light bulb but he was like S. JOBS took other people ideas, then developed his own version of that product and credited himself. If someone tried to step in front of him he would get rid of them like he did with N.Tesla
www.zmescience.com/other/feature-post/who-invented-the-light-bulb-04233/
@@JackieWellesmy uncle actually had the lg prada (the first smarthphone)
The market will go with LED's so let's just relax everyone.
nar. 1/4the bulb price today 4X electric bill every month. ttump ppl choose the latter LOL
I don't have any problems with market forces determining winners and losers. That's what free markets do. My problem is government mandates that short circuit market forces. That's how you get poisonous CFL bulbs in our landfills. Or more exactly, in China's landfills.
@@demef758 the free market and worlds goverment all over the world surely choose LED XD. most countries are dealing with anti nuclear power also anti coal burning at the same timeLOL.
with lots of countries having a power shortage. ttump free market is stupidly fun to watch.
Id prefer incandescent, the light is more natural.
Yeah so why rollback the regulation that actually helped the market
Speaking to my electrician, 99% of bulbs installed in the UK are now LED since they dropped inprice a few years ago. Now they are super cheap and it doesn't make any sense to choose anything other than LED for most lights even floodlights
In Australia the state governments subsidised the replacement of incandescent bulbs with energy saving ones. They had energy companies visit your home to do the replacements with the best suited bulbs.
How many chiropractors does it take to change a lightbulb?
One, but it takes six visits.
How many programmers does it take to change a light bulb?
I don't know. That's a hardware problem.
( Of which I was one back in the day. )
You're everywhere man
Yea I really like having over 11 different options of toothpaste when I shop. Make me feel powerful.
i like the way "all sides" of the bulb are presented,,,so i subbed!
While there is a total focus on the issue of "efficiency" in this video, nothing is mentioned about what medical research is revealing about low frequency lighting (380-440nm) being linked to irreversible retinal damage, macular degeneration, and after several years of exposure, certain kinds of cancer. Just a little oversight.
I was looking for this comment...
I'm from Canada and pretty much the only time I ever see incandescent bulbs anymore is for a specific asthetic. To look artsy with shaped filamants in restaurants and homes, that kinda thing. It's rediculous that LEDs still aren't everywhere, the technology has been around for decades...
True, but they were much more expensive back then. They're cheaper now, so they'll get much more popular soon.
And a lot of those "artsy bulbs" are actually leds now
My house still has incandescent bulbs because theyre not burning out. They're so old but somehow they're still kicking. We don't buy then anymore though so they'll get replaced eventually.
If it's cold, then the extra heat that incandescents provide is nice sometimes.
The quality of incandescent light is also the most 'flattering' to the human skin colour.
i use led everywhere, but have some old lightbulbs lying around to screw into my desklamp
if i want to take nice pictures since in my experience leds still usually dont outperform incandescent bulbs
another benefit is that u can point incandescent bulbs at ur body and u get a nice warm spot similar to outdoor infrared heaters
One thing left out is that many municipalities or utility districts may offer rebates for buying LED bulbs. My local utility offered a decent rebate on our electric bill for replacing each fixture.
You can't use most LED lights with dimmers. You need to add a filament lamp so there is sufficient current draw to trigger the dimmer circuit. Also, LED lamps are being made with such cheap regulator circuitry that they will flicker on their own at mains frequency. They also tend to be over driven to put out more light which reduces the lifespan dramatically unless you lower the input voltage by using a dimmer circuit. Oh, wait, you can't because it will flicker.
Didn’t even know you could still buy those old incandescent lights, USA move with the times..
@John K Exactly, if we Americans want to eat literal feces and worship rich celebrities we're damn right gonna do it regardless of what these hippie socialist Euroshits says.
John K America is a laughing stock
@John K This doesn't make sense for anyone tho.. stop being stupid.
Peter Samson> USA move with the times
The US won't even switch to Metric because it confuses idiots like John K, so expecting them to get with the times isn't realistic. :-\
@vato I was making fun of him, weirdo. I've never even been to the Americas.
I live in a poor country, and my family isn't rich either....but...We use LED bulbs at home... I don't know why Americans are still using incandescent bulbs...
Incandescents have one good use: as heaters for reducing relative humidity for storage of welding rod, in repurposed old refrigerators. You disable the light switch by the door latch, and you use higher rated bulb than OEM, like 40-60 watt. If you ever walk through lighting display area of large home-supply center, you'll immediately sense the infrared heating. Unless you're little-donnie.
One can still buy incandescent in EU, it's just that they're not popular anymore, since only small shops sell them "for industrial lighting only".
Reality is that led and fluorescent are way more expensive initially, though in the long run are definitely cheaper because of the lower energy they require.
i need to say that, incandescent lamp is more romantic in café XD
Smart color LEDs are programmable, dimmable and can have any of 16 million colors. That's more romantic and more efficient than incandescents. Yeah, they cost more but they are still infinitely more versatile and romantic.
@@arturduchene Do not use those color change RGB bubs for general illumination, they have horrible color rendering. You often can't distinguish orange from red, cyan from blue, pink from purple, etc. ua-cam.com/video/5U-F7EhLp7g/v-deo.html
You can now get amber LED filament bulb, same romantic without the heat above your head
is no body going to mention who made LED light possible?
It was a Japanese guy, who invented Blue LED. LED existed for more than 50 years, but nobdy could figure out how to make Blue LED, until this Japanese guy single handedly came up with the solution.
because of his Blue LED, white LED became possible.
So Thomas Edison becomes the most famous inventor of all time, and then there is this "Japanese guy" who revolutionized lighting.
His name is Shuji Nakamura and he won the Nobel Prize in 2014.
@@gljames24 Thank you. Now I know the name of the person who invented something that I am thankful for.
The heat from incandescent is not "waste" if you need to heat your home anyway.
My old school lightbulb still runs, but my led and obamabulbs are already dead and they're less than a year old...
Incandescent bulbs are fashion pieces.
CFL bulbs are overall inferior. I'll never use CFL bulbs again.
All the lights in my house are led strips and bulbs. Much better for the budget and getting cheaper all the time. The led bulbs are a one time buy. Led bulbs seem to last forever, I've never replaced one.
When something better comes along I'll try that solution too.
The data provided showing correlation between low wage areas to high priced led bulbs is disturbing. I wonder how the data examining low wage areas and low alcohol prices would look?
Where do you get these affordable led bulbs
@@rougeaccountant1834 At a New Zealand store called Mitre-10, you can purchase Essential LED Bulb 14 Watt B22 Pack of 12 Warm White 2700K for NZ$45.00.
USA Ikea has LED bulb E26 400 lumen, globe opal for US$1.00.
Hope these examples help.
@@patrick247two How long have they've lasted so far? My dad buys LED bulbs but they don't seem to last much longer than CFL's, though I think that's because he buys the cheapest ones (they're like $1.50 USD/bulb)
@@SynthAir I have dozens of LED bulbs in my house since 11 years. Only one of them died. It was the cheap variety from 'Action' store (worst store in Europe).
People in less affluent communities needs to sit down with a piece of paper and a pencil (costs $0.99 at a dollar store) and do the ARITHMETIC (its NOT EVEN MATH)...
Step 1: Calculate how many light bulbs you have in your house and which ones you use MOST...
Step 2: Take the number of bulbs you use MOST and calculate the cost of purchasing these bulbs per year.
Step 3: Calculate the cost of powering those MOST used bulbs per month and per year (number of hours used per day X number of bulbs X their WATTAGE, which is written on the bulb X how much you per for your electricity, $/kWh)
Step 4: After you have all those numbers, calculate how much money you can save by replacing those MOST used bulbs with LED Bulbs
--- HYPOTHESIS: You can afford to switch within a month or 2 and start saving money RIGHT AWAY... simple stuff
Oh one more thing... DO NOT BUY LED BULBS from the like of LOWES/HOMEDEPOT... you can get much better price online from Amazon and such...
That is all good advice. Now explain why government should FORCE me to accept it.
@@demef758 Market is NOT perfect and neither is government... You cant always go with either the Market or the Government...you need both...
Incandescent has its upsides:
1. Days are shorter during the colder season, thus more in need of artificial light. Since homes need heating during said season, the "waste" heat produced by incandescent bulbs isn't really wasted, but it simply contributes to heating the home, lowering HVAC consumption. All the while, the same can't be said for streetlights: but they never used incandescent anyways.
2. Incandescent bulbs are much cheaper to manufacture when compared to LEDs.
3. Correct waste management of LEDs is much harder than incandescent.
number 3 is quite true
LED have more plastic inside it. old filaments is glass and metal.
Well done!
Not sure what to buy? Don't worry... The State will tell you what your preference is.
I miss incandescent bulbs. Better color of light produced regardless of price comparison.
I would like to add that you can now purchase CFL bulbs that are much closer to 6500 Kelvin which is more = to sunlight. IOW warmer lighting.
Great video
LED bulbs have their drawbacks. The light output causes sleep deprivation. Had to go to the doctor recently. Problem......I was only sleeping 3 hours a day. Asked if I had LED lighting, used iPads and an iPhone. Yes to all. He said stay away from LED lighting.
Try sleeping at night, after turning the lights off
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on your condition its the blue light thing thats on all screens too
There's going to be a time when we look back on incandescent bulbs like the way we look back on candles. They look cool but they really aren't very good at the job.
@@dennyg3315 TBH they shouldn't have to. The utility of LEDs is blatantly obvious. I love having light bulbs that live 5-10 times longer.
At my work, I've got roughly 100 fixtures that I have to maintain. Converting them to LED is extending the maintenance cycle by an entire order of magnitude. I used to spend at least two or three days a year just changing light bulbs.
I'm planning on converting all of our T-8 bulbs to LED this year and replacing the T-5 bulbs as soon as I run out of spares.
The LEDs also have the advantage of not being made of glass and since I work in a food production facility, eliminating glass is always a good thing. I've had to destroy whole pallets of finished goods due to potential glass contamination. Just one of those pallets pays for converting the whole building to LED.
@@dennyg3315 You didn't read anything i said at all did you? I never mentioned efficiency. Not once. Efficiency is nice, but I'm talking about maintenance cycles on fixtures in a large industrial space. I'll try one more time.
I'm replacing fluorescent tubes with LEDs. It will mean I go from 20-30 tubes a year to about 5-10. Now if I were to go backwards and install incandescents, I'd be spending two or three days a month just changing light bulbs. That's how a maintenance cycle works.
If you want to use old fashioned filament bulbs in you house, that's fine, I don't care. But if you have over a hundred light fixtures that need to be maintained you're going to go for the thing that lasts longer.
The only reason people don't like CFLs and LED bulbs is that the guberment told them to use em.
We should get the government to tell them to eat food and drink water.
Personally, I love LEDs. Smaller and more efficient, what's not to love? LED strip lights are super great especially.
You forgot to say that white led's are blue and it converts into white when it hits the phosphorus.
An japanese guy got a nobel price for figuring out how to make cheap blue light. He made the white led possible.