Russian "turtle tanks" could be breakthroughs in Ukraine, this is a dangerous moment - Forbes
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Strange Russian tanks are increasingly being spotted at the front. T-72s with wide protective armor on top were called “turtle tanks”. They can probably be used for mine clearance.
According to Forbes, all of the spotted "turtle tanks" belong to the 5th Motorized Rifle Brigade, a former separatist unit that is now under Russian command.
Both Ukrainians and Russians tried to protect their tanks from drones and shells. For this purpose, protective cages or slats were used, which only slightly limited the rotation of its cannon turret.
The armor in the turtle tank's shell leaves only a small gap in the front and prevents the gun from rotating. The obvious disadvantages of homemade armor raise questions.
"The turtle tank's role seemed to be to destroy it," said weapons scientist Matthew Moss wryly.
These tanks likely serve as a breacher - a plow-equipped engineering vehicle whose main job is to guide other vehicles through a minefield to get them close enough to enemy lines to attack. It is assumed that the enemy will fire at the breacher, so the special vehicle is equipped with dense armor.
The US Army has the best breakthrough vehicle in the world, a nearly 70-ton vehicle that is essentially an M-1 tank without the gun and with mine-clearing equipment attached. At the end of last year, the Americans quietly gave the Ukrainians several of these assault breakers.
The Russian army does not have a breakthrough vehicle of the same class.
Faced with a Ukrainian minefield and swarms of tiny FPV drones, and without specially designed breachers, 5th Motorized Rifle Brigade technicians may have decided to create their own breachers.
If the theory is true, the Russians took older T-72 tanks - perhaps ones whose turrets already had trouble moving - and added two things every vehicle needed to break through: extra armor and mine-clearing gear. It is difficult to verify the presence of the second component of the breakthrough in “skull tanks”, because it is hidden behind the armor.
Analyst Rob Lee of the Foreign Policy Research Institute in Philadelphia spotted a mine roller on one of these tanks. This is a set of durable wheels that activate the mines just ahead of the vehicle.
"This 'turtle tank,' which was also the first of its type to have anti-drone equipment, continued to advance after driving through several mines," Li noted.
Now only one turtle tank has been destroyed - it was hit by artillery after returning to base after the battle on April 8. If there is any reason to fear for the long-term future of such tanks, it is that they are FPV protected.
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Omg we returned to WW1
Lets be honest here, All it is is metal roofing lol
Yes this is an elaborated cope cage, which is perfect against drone attacks when clearing a minefield and this is what it is designed for.
yes its nothing special... you cant even call it real armour, but this is something called spaced armor. Spaced armour can be sloped or unsloped. When sloped, it reduces the penetrating power of bullets and solid shot, as after penetrating each plate projectiles tend to tumble, deflect, deform, or disintegrate; spaced armour that is not sloped is generally designed to provide protection from explosive projectiles, which detonate before reaching the primary armour. Spaced armour is used on military vehicles such as tanks and combat bulldozers. so when the bullets hits the target is wil already explode after the first thing layer of ''armour'' after the explosion the fragments wil hit the armor in a way less effective way.
@@AllNickNamesAreAlreadyInUse land mines don't care if u put sheet metal all over the place also a fpv drone placed perfectly can fly under that sheet metal. But I get what ur say and instead of metal better off with wet plywood lol
@@1234crevis yeah for mines it has no use at all, same with drones. its really only works against other tanks or anti tank weapons (only explosive rounds) if it works at all...
@@Wayne72LEVRAI They also have electronic countermeasures/jamming against ukranian FPV drones. Ukranian soldiers stopped laughing at it now that they understand that it is BIG trouble for them.
Mobile garden sheds .... ohh the humanity.
Ukraine will develop drones that fly up to the door on the tank, and a voice will say "Knock-knock". If a tanker replies "Who's there?" the drone will say "Ice-cold vodka". The rest is history.
😅😅😅
Росіяни розповідають, що вони шли по лісу, побачили на дереві дверний дзвінок, вони на нього натиснули, виявилось, що дзвінок приєднано до мін, вціліли не всі росіяни.
Make Ukraine Russia again!
Дмитрий Медведев - "В том, что американские законодатели одобрят "помощь" банде неонацистов, никто не сомневался. Это было голосование радостных штатовских ублюдков :
а) за продолжение гражданской войны разделённого народа нашей ранее единой страны;
б) за максимальное увеличение числа жертв этой войны.
Мы, конечно, победим, несмотря на 61 млрд кровавых долларов, которые в основном пойдут в глотку их ненасытного ВПК. Сила и Правда за нами.
Но с учётом состоявшегося русофобского решения не могу со всей искренностью не пожелать США как можно быстрее самим погрузиться в новую гражданскую войну. Которая, надеюсь, будет кардинально отличаться от войны Севера и Юга в ХlХ веке и будет вестись с применением самолётов, танков, артиллерии, РСЗО, всех видов ракет и прочего оружия. И которая приведёт наконец к бесславному распаду мерзкой империи зла ХХl века - Соединённых Штатов Америки"
@@SA-so7jahДмитрий Медведев - "В том, что американские законодатели одобрят "помощь" банде неонацистов, никто не сомневался. Это было голосование радостных штатовских ублюдков :
а) за продолжение гражданской войны разделённого народа нашей ранее единой страны;
б) за максимальное увеличение числа жертв этой войны.
Мы, конечно, победим, несмотря на 61 млрд кровавых долларов, которые в основном пойдут в глотку их ненасытного ВПК. Сила и Правда за нами.
Но с учётом состоявшегося русофобского решения не могу со всей искренностью не пожелать США как можно быстрее самим погрузиться в новую гражданскую войну. Которая, надеюсь, будет кардинально отличаться от войны Севера и Юга в ХlХ веке и будет вестись с применением самолётов, танков, артиллерии, РСЗО, всех видов ракет и прочего оружия. И которая приведёт наконец к бесславному распаду мерзкой империи зла ХХl века - Соединённых Штатов Америки"
I predict that in six weeks time. We will be inundated with videos of turtle tanks. Imitating jack in the box.
Bradley fighting vehicle reverse engineerd 😂
How are the exhaust fumes in there?
These tanks are still open on the front , AND at the back their tracks are visible, dive low and hit the tracks, if it cant move it is stuck!!
Useless Tank ever ! The turret was lock and can’t aim anything.
@@josephhoang4345 its a mine sweeper genius, its ment to take on hits not fire
@@user-dw7zw6bo1g
😂 lol, I take it you’ve seen the footage of these things falling apart like cheap suits.
They’ve use corrugated iron sheeting on the top and sides.
Why don’t you go to the frontline and show us all how they work. Genius?
@@RoofLight00 falling apart?, the only footage of it being allegedly destroyed is a video of it under a collapsed warehouse, i mean have you seen it in combat?, it shrugged of fpv drones and cluster munitions like they where nothing.
@@RoofLight00 falling apart?, you mean that video where it shrugged of fpv drones and cluster munitions like they where nothing?
And it doesn't take a genius to know the purpose that tank served by just watching it in combat.
All most turtle tanks come back safely, we need to examine that strange idea.
Chicken shed mechanized division.
Forbes? Isn't that a magazine about money? 😂
For War Investors. War is business.
War fairy tales news
I do not see how that turtle innovation is also artillery protected.
Nor is it FPV protected, because the front is open.
высокая скорость передвижения + система подавление дронов и вообще любой связи.
@@markkukorpivaara9471piloting a kamikaze drone is hard as shit so i guess this is enough. Also, by the angle, the drone would be facing the frontal armour
Ahahahaha...and I thought I've seen everything 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
I suppose soon there will be Russian navy turtle ships too because of sea drones 😵💫
@@imantsjansons5009 A Sea Turtle 🐢 with a giant snorkel 😁
@@imantsjansons5009 Technically this is a possibility. You just need a structure around it to prevent the drone to come in contact.
For the tank this is a good idea but apply only for mine clearing tanks because you can't rotate the turret.
The ukranians sure have stopped laughing when they realized that those tanks have electronic countremeasures/jamming devices to their FPV drones.
The Ukrainians have a chance to stop the turtle tanks by attacking them at the wheels which we can easily see. If they do it, those turtle tanks will stop and will become sitting ducks not being able to shoot other than about 30 degrees their turret can rotate. But soldiers could leave the tank being afraid of additional shelling onto them.
Obviously drones dropping plastic bags filled with paint onto the driver's view window will blind the turtle tanks. Technology!
These corrugated sheets over the turtles do not appear as additional armor but rather as trash humbug used to shield against the drones... I may be wrong though
As long as it can separate the impact, it will work very well.
Those are wooden sheds on top of a tank. They're not going to help against mines. They can stop at most one drone attack. If the shed collapses, the crew are trapped inside the tank. This story is complete nonsense.
там металлический каркас потом металлическая сетка рабица и сверху еще доски и шифером. Танк уже давно гоняет там туда-сюда доставляет десант и много чего еще, ничего с ним сделать не могут.)) Этот населенный пункт взяли. А дроны просто не могут до него долететь, теряют управление из-за установленной РЭБ системы подавления связи. Он вначале тралом путь себе сделал от мин, а потом , как по железной дороге)). Учитесь!
The APCs are still vulnerable and the infantry is what captures ground
Theyre doing the same thing with APCs apparently too. Evolution in the age of drone war.
@@garettdoornwaard4822 they are not, there is not video evidence. The turtles are breakthrough tanks it wouldn’t make sense for APCs to replicate it. They are using Urals as a fast troop transport.
Gloria all'Ucraina!!
Russian world war 1 combat tactics 😅😅
Yep, don't suppose your nation was in WWI 😂
Орки весь шифер з наших хат покрали
Попроси Байдена, он тебе новый пришлёт.
@@Ivan_Bodunov а твоє яке діло? Шуруй дамбу підпирай,не сиди тут
Da Vinci desiged this
I call the tanks sow bugs.
Heard that bigger rpg versions will still be able to penetrate tank. So, the full roof might get even bigger.
They are also equipped with electronic coutermeasures against ukranian drones, which are very effective. Now ukraine has to worry about not only the russian advance, but also a direct counter to their own drones.
Seems that up-armoring to effective levels vs ATGMs or artillery would add much weight, and drive components and suspension would suffer.
Once your opponent puts their tanks inside a metal shell, you’ve disabled that tank without further effort.
This is a breacher and mine clearer, it breaches and clears mines, how is it disabled?
Sounds like coping seeing as how it's actually effective.
Omg, tanks looks like old houses.
The obvious, USA does not have the best mine clearer as 70 tones would be too heavy for Ukraine, ask UK about their tanks and mud. The best would be one that operates in the environment - horses for courses.
2nd - you see that big green thing on the turtle tanks - EW - electronic warfare equipment. Basically stops most drones that get closer than say 100 meters. Now, those things are basically cut down versions of microwave ovens - (700 MHz to 7 or 8 GHz). So, having lots of metal between you and the emitters is a good thing (especially if you want to have children). And being at the front they not only clear mines, they keep the drones at bay.
But, but but: They only have shovels and washing machines! How can this be?
It's a surprisingly clever way to deal with anti-tank munitions, since virtually all of them rely on shape charges to penetrate armor. Two sets of armor, with a gap in between, thwarts precision ordnance. It's also stupid cheap, unlike fancy western "reactive" armor that has to be able to detect the incoming munitions. Turtle tanks just saunter on as is, no warning required.
So I do not have a lot of explosive knowledge but interested to know if the explosive drone flew in the opening of the "shell" near the barrel and exploded between the shell and the tank's armor would that increase the force of the explosion?
In the revelation that something looks square on a road, then one can presume it is a tank with skirts. A bit harder to believe, is that it is a new structure on the landscape that did not exist last month.
I’ve seen enough video of drones flying under that sheet metal and detonating to think they aren’t going to be much help
When these turtle tanks first appeared on the battlefield , Ukrainians were laughing at them.
Can't imagine that the turtle tank can withstand hits from fpv drones
It has a drone jammer on top of it, fpv can’t get close enough to deal significant damage. Cluster munitions prove to be useless against it, only way to destroy it is by stronger artillery or atgm.
Adapted mine-laying drones could put a couple down right in front of the tanks ;)
This should have been posted on April the 1st 😂😂😂
nonsense. most tanks are now destroyed by fpv kamkikaze drones that can fly horizontally into any opening
Reminds me or the stand-off armor plates used by the Germans in WW2.
In this case, can a fpv be used to throw gasoline bombs?
Christ - the armour may be dense but the posters on here are denser. The cover replicates house roofs and fools drones by not having a tank outline.
Just maybe this turtle is to stop the drones from winning. Another layer of defense.
😂😂😂
I mean thats litterally what Russian Uses that people Laughed at until The ISREAL Using The same Fookin Tactic😂😂
@@mariyailechko911
Davaj, davaj! Goood stufff
How really. Lets see
Shaped charges.....
Parece un contenedor de basura 😅
caesar canon, will stop that
No no no! That's not a T50, that's our most feared Turtle-Tank.
Where are the Romans in armor with swords?
If it's stupid and it works, then it's not stupid.
They cannot defeat shaped charges
Beneath that armored turtle shell lies an EW system designed to disrupt drones and protect the following vehicles.
Think I saw those on the "Just Rolled In" youtube channel.
'wide protective armor'
Lol 1/8th inch sheet metal
Yes, this sheet metal makes the bombs explode outside of the tank to reduce the damage. US did the same with humvees in Iraq. Get educated.
@@Hasan-jf7by lmfao. cry
@@Hasan-jf7by shrapnel can rip right through sheet metal.
GeT eDuCaTeD
@@Asymmetrical-Saggin
Yes, shrapnel can. So what?
You miss the point again kid!
I thought that Russia had already claimed luhans and doshans and they want to occupying again makes no sense
T15 Armata?
"Russia’s combat losses in Ukraine reach 461K"
"Russia’s invasion forces have seen an estimated 461,060 soldiers and officers killed or wounded in action since the invasion, including 800 in the past day alone."
- Ukrinform
. . . . .... . .. .
1.8M+ RU casualties thus far:
1,841,040 to be exact. .
wia:1,380,780+
(Minusrus)
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Hello bot
Is that the best $300m a day spending can do?
The first thing that comes in mind are the Ancient Romans who used the same tactic for their infantry !!! 😂
Don't forget the drone jammers mounted on it.
the newest heaviest tank 100 tons is russian turtle tank..
"Russian war losses in Ukraine top 460,000"
"Russia's overall combat losses in Ukraine between February 24, 2022 and April 22, 2024 amounted to about 460,260 troops, including 730 killed or wounded in action in the past 24 hours."
- Ukrinform
. . . . .... . .. .
1.8M+ RU casualties thus far:
1,841,040 to be exact. ... . . .
wia:1,380,780+
(Minusrus)
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ДЯКУЮ ЗА НОВИНИ ❤❤❤💪💪💪👍👍👍😘😘😘
ВЫ сказочник
Stop Using Ukraine propaganda figures
@@lauriew3517 Stop sending Arabs , Asians , Africans & Cubanes as RF meatballs to the frontline ; where are the brave muscovits ?
Nonsense. Flaky emotional feminine ranting is never helpful or realistic.
I'm surprised these things come back for the front
Ukraine just needs EFP or shape charge drones. Iran shipped them to Iraq during the war and it made a joke out of any armor upgrade we came out with.
Let’s see how it does on an anti tank mine.
カメがだめなら、次はアルマジロ戦車だ
乞う御期待！
Everyone knows Armadillos are born dead on the side of the road 😂😂😂
say they don't have some of the best tanks
because that's what they say
and then an outer wall must be built on them???
A Z generation tank of russia
Build some pitfall trap for those tank
Like u will not be roasted on frontline
That’s the second powerful country
They've adapted to FPV drones just in time for Ukraine to get more aid and start using DPICMS and ATGMs again, negating their little shells.
You mean US pressures
Ukrainians should not be laughing at this tank or make fun of instead they should be worried about this tanks.
These are specifically modified for specific purposes as you can see these tanks are mine clearing tanks and they have anti-drone devices on them.
This video does not show the full footage but I have seen a full footage where these tanks were actually doing fantastic jobs. They were clearing mines and creating pathways for the oncoming tanks and IFV to safely move to their objectives, also the anti-drone equipment installed on them were jamming and destroying drone far away from them the drone could not even get close to these tanks.
The only way to destroy these tanks is to fire an accurate artillery rounds to hit it but it have to be a lucky shot because these tanks are moving so it is pretty useless to target with artillery rounds or even cluster munitions. There was a video where cluster munitions and artillery rounds were fired at these tanks and it keep moving because they all missed.
The only way to destroy these tanks to locate them when they are parked and hidden and. It moving then sent an artillery shells on it because drone are pretty useless as drone won’t even get near it due to it electric weapons platforms.
It's camo not armor can't really know if it's garage or a tank from air
why all reporter say US army have best weapons ....its not true in ukrain we know that ....
making houses out of tanks 😱
Turtle tank was destroyed at last, with all the crews.
Скажімо так, те що росіяни допетрали, як зробити повзучу хату, це ще не найгірше. Щоб повзуча хата, дійсно стала засобом прориву, потрібно ще декілька ітерацій модернізації, або робити зразок з нуля, тоді це дійсно стане зразком зброї прориву.
Thought they were easy prey.
Armadillo tankers.
Comedy gold!
Черепахе только в ствол дроном залетать надо
That's laughable 😂 they've added corrugated iron to tanks what next 😅
Forget Armata, the future is Armaturtle 🐢😂
The 'shell' of the turtle is designed to make sure the crew can't escape when a Stugna, Javelin, RPG, Manpad, Mine etc. scores a direct hit.
Shovels now turtle tanks. Slav Russia
I noticed that AI generated text uses phrases like therefore, in addition, in spite of this, as a result, out of context
Forbes knows everything…all about the war in Ukraine, EVs, and other important global issue…no, they just don’t 😂😂😂
You do though. Rando internet person. Knows more than a massive journalism enterprise staffed with experts. Glad we have you.
Ukraine is gonna win. Now i'm a 1000% sure. What the hell! The mighty bear has been reduced to a turtle.
ازلحفه اروسيه القويه
Seperti pemakaman berjalan😆😆😆
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American human rights activist Ajamu Baraka: Ukrainians finally realized that they were being prepared for destruction for the sake of the geostrategic interests of the United States, which have nothing to do with them. The result is massive capitulations on the front line and people avoiding conscription.
😂😂😂
lol soon they wont have the oil to drive anything!!!!
Першого липня в Україні хто виживе буде говорити?
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Ăn cướp mà sợ người ta đánh 😂😂