I marched Cavaliers in 2008, that is NOT Jermery Seneca on the cadets foot. It is a guy named Jordan Pike. You are correct on the GF picture though. The story behind that, if you watch the 2008 finals scores broadcast you will see Cavaliers fall once they announce BD's score. We were stretching on finals rehearsal day and one of our tuba players said, " You know, if Phantom wins tonight, we should all do a mass suicide. I mean our third movement is called Death Before Dishonor. It is the Samurai way." We all thought it was hilarious! So our horn sergeants walked around retreat block with the color guard "swords" and when they announced "Blue Devils" our sergeant yelled like a Samurai and ran down the line "Killing" people. Jordan Pike was one of those people and purposely fell in the Cadets block because we knew the Cadets were "Not allowed to move." Hopkins came running because he thought the member passed out. Jordan thought it was a member for a second and didnt move. Once he realized it was Hopkins he got up really quickly.
Crown singing the national anthem in the showers in 2023 but replacing all of the words with "there's a bomb" so we got told we couldn't talk about bombs in public anymore.
Yeah, Blast was the reason I started playing trumpet when I was in 5th grade. I had no idea for a while that they were DCI related, let alone what Star of Indiana was. Now it’s cool to see so much of their music was from Star’s shows and I&E charts. Battery Battle still feels like a WGI show.
@@skraegorn7317 I wasn't in either of those. The corps I marched in 96 performed with them at a couple of shows is how I performed with them. At the time it was just called Brass Theater and still had Star all over the place down to the uniforms and all.
Few things I want everyone to see regarding this video. I avoided Kelsi Monroe on the iceberg in an effort to keep my videos at least somewhat suitable for UA-cam. That is why I put "I'll be avoiding this one FHNSAB, I should have been more explicit though looking back. The murder case involving the caballeros admin member is a convoluted one, while he was involved with the caballeros during the year the event occurred after leaving prison he allegedly returned to the caballeros organization as the assistant corps director of the muchachos not the caballeros which I mistakenly said. As always thanks for correcting me and keeping me on my toes as I talk about the history of the activity we all love so much!
i legitimately always thought it was BD high brass in 08 to see it be BK, a corps who was in that year during finals- COMPLETELY UNRELATED to the dispute between top 2 is absolutely friggin HILARIOUS-
I marched Teal Sound in 1999 and in 2000 and I was the first member of the corps. I was rooting for them that 2012 season and they had the show to possibly break into the top 12 and they were so good. They kept climbing every year and disaster struck. Centerville, OH. What's sad is that the kids didn't even know till they got off the field after their performance in Centerfield. They were given multiple options and i don't remember what they were. But one was, get on 1 bus and head back to Florida (the other bus left to return to Florida) OR find another corps that has another opening spot and see if they will take you in. And thanks to the Colts D&B corps they pretty much took much took all the kids that wanted to continue on.
I watch random shows frequently i love teal sound if i was old enough i wouldve definitely tried out in 11 love that show! I hope 1 day someone makes a revivial or recognition of the corps, or all age or something, just loved everything about them, and their unis were so fashionable! Didnt know they played angels and demons too lol
Yoo, my friend was the one that started the 3DS recording trend 😂. He was the one that recorded the Carolina crown in McKinney video. It’s definitely one of the best/funniest DCI trends I’ve seen
saw Boston at their Florida camp today and... my god. Oh sure, they were pretty damn good last year. 12 to 6th is surely no joke. But this - what I saw today - this is now something entirely different. This is something that I've seen before. I've seen it and I recognize it as sure as I know my own face. I cannot mistake this feeling for anything other than what it most assuredly is. It is something I saw, and felt, back in 2012 with Crown; I saw and felt it again in '14 with TILT. And this thing is - a Super Saiyan. That's the only way I can explain it. Those corps in those years took that invisible step that upped their power to a level they had never achieved before. Maybe they didn't win it all, but that was not why we remember those shows. We remember because they had crossed some invisible line and the ultimate result of that was inevitable. Even if it took another season, even if it took two, their path was set. Boston has crossed that line. It's not even about where they place this year. It's about putting everyone else; the fans, DCI, and the top 3, on notice. They know how to go Super Saiyan now, and they are coming. We've had corps do 'dark' shows. We've had corps do artsy shows. We've had 'clever', and minimalist and Fellini-esque and psychedelic and you name it shows. Prepare for Angry. Animal Farm in comparison was just sarcastic with a touch of upset. Wicked Games was dark with a touch of brooding. What is coming this year is controlled and brutal anger. I know it because even Gino was surprised enough by it to raise an eyebrow and say out loud, "these kids are very good at doing angry". Anyways, I'm calling it right now. Top 4. They'll fight it out with someone, possibly Cavs. Here's the Shamaliyan plot twist though. It's entirely too early to tell of course, but if they keep ramping up their power level at this same rate, they may very well leave 4th in their wake. There, I said it. There is a definite possibility that, despite all I just said and what I've just predicted, that I might be underestimating them.
Some iceberg topics from my time at cavaliers and devs. Cavaliers/SCV - the noose Cavaliers/phantom/BD - jolly rancher target practice at retreat Cavaliers - “how do we get off the field” Sevierville - the field with a crown you can’t see the front sideline from the back because the middle is so elevated Cavaliers - stealing a blue devils uniform in 2009 and wearing it around the lot RCC- press box on the 35
Hawthorne Muchachos (DCI) folded in 1977, not the Hawthorne Caballeros (DCA) who are alive and well today. Both corps had the same sponsor and parent organization at the time.
Sorry I forgot to mention the switch. Hawthorn Caballeros was the corps that created the junior corps hawthorn muchachos which as you correctly stated folded in 1977. The person in question for the case I mentioned was involved with the hawethorn caballeros first and during the time of the incident and then allegedly returned to the muchachos and was with the corps till they folded. It is really convoluted and someone confusing and I do wish I had explained it better.
I’ve enjoyed your videos so much! This one was interesting and fun as well! Some things I know , and some things were new to me. I have been around Drum Corps since the late 60s. I only had a chance to march in Senior Corps in ‘77 (?) with the Chicago Connection. Marched one season, then moved on to other things; but that time was unforgettable, and I feel privileged to have had that time. My love for Drum Corps will never die, and I’m so glad you are making these videos. Thank you!
No video of Whitewater wipeout? I was there, and remember it like it was yesterday. It was (I think) the 3rd of 4th time we had seen the Garfield show that year. It was groundbreaking and astonishing. So, when the marching dominos started to fall at the end of the show, we were in disbelief. We thought for sure that there would be injuries (beyond bloody lips and teeth).When we saw them again again at Finals, we held our breath during that move. And that time, many people cheered just because nobody fell.
Vid of the Wipeout likely does not exist. 1) Filming regionals was not a thing in 1984. 2) Camera were huge. 3) Cell phones did not exist. There ARE the pics of the Wipeout, shown in this vid, but in 4 decades, that's all I've ever seen. The only physical injury to a member (there were some horns that took damage) was a sprained/strained ankle for the soprano who tripped and started it all. He missed a couple of practices and maybe one show, but was back in the lie after that. They got a perfect subcap score -- ensemble visual, IIRC -- and the fall did NOT cost them the win over SCV and us (BD)....SCV earned the win legit that night. The Wipeout was missed by the upstairs visual judge because 1) it was way out at the end of the line on side 2 (audience right), 2) the judge was looking at the center of the form, and 3) they recovered VERY fast and were back in the line before the judge looked at them....not in the right spots, but in the form. And as it was the final move it in the show, placement in the line didn't mean anything. The audio is from a brass judge, who could not score a visual caption. Now...someone DID catch his heels on the move at finals -- it was in the center and on camera. Had HE fallen, I'd have my ring....but I'd hate to be him after that...he'd've been blaming himself for the loss for 4 decades....no bueno.
I marched the season after in 2021 (and I was even contracted as far back as 2020 when dci died, and I never really heard about it.) I did discover it on my own a bit before my season tho, but never asked.
The Jean Elizabeth Joseph story is so sweet and really embodies the best of human nature! Great video, super interesting as a drum corps fan who never marched corps.
Something I want to add to 24:04: There's still some system blue products like the Evans SB heads, and Drillmasters shoes with the SB brand still on them. Also, I heard that Conn & Selmer got the patents from the Blue Devils to make the System Blue instruments as the King and Ludwig performance series.
The national anthem thing was started by 7th Regiment around 2017 TBH, it was basically a fun thing to do while showering. The acoustics in locker rooms are especially great for harmony. I'm pretty sure we started the trend because those seasons, we would sing it in the showers before shows, and get really odd looks from other corps. So, I think we were the first. Back then, Open Class championships were held in Michigan City, IN, and most of the housing sites did not have locker rooms that were large enough for an entire corps to shower. So a lot of OC corps were all doing pre-show showers at the show site. I think that is where the meme spread. 7R would enter the room, look at each other wordlessly, and start. Before OC finals, that meant that between 5 and 7 corps were showing in the same locker room at the same time, figuring out what the hell to do when the 7R folks were belting out the anthem as loud as they (we) could. We were on strict orders to NOT do this before OC prelims (we followed them), since our shower time overlapped with other corps performance times, and the showers looked right onto the field. We tried to also do it with the Soviet anthem, but it was hard to teach the lyrics. The international members of our corps were often very excited to sing our anthem with us.
(This was told to me from someone who was with the corps since 82) The 89 fracking incident was impart to stress over a home/family issues that was happening at that time
Gosh, I feel old. I've been out of the activity as a corps member since 2007. That summer, our busses had this brand new technology called wi-fi. It didn't really matter because nobody had ability to use it. The snap has been around much longer than most people realize. A lot of corps (mine included) only got off-time when it was laundry day. My last year, I think we had 2 full off days the entire summer. The day after off-days were usually the worst from a rehearsal stand point. For some other oddities and terms in DCI (at least from my time): 2006 Capital Regiment Box 5 vs box 1 housing The RCA Dome The mass brass debacle was common for several years (not just 2008 or by BK) Bob Barker 2000 BD bass drummer The Vanguard yell, particularly '02-'07 Similar to the Iowa town, rehearsing in Utah was always an interesting experience given the Mormon lifestyle. Most corps until very recently never had medical staffs (We had Bandaids and Advil), strength coaches, and chefs, much less meteorologists Buy-stops were a rare occurrence, and this was well before Bucees became what it is today.
G Bugles were how I learned what drum and bugle corps was. Back in middle school I was buying a step-up trumpet and I asked the guy why one of them had 2 valves. He let me play it too, they hardly sound like a trumpet at low volumes. But he told me what drum and bugle corps is, though he didn’t know what corps that soprano belonged to as it didn’t come with the original paperwork.
@@CJsMusicTrumpet I don't remember specifically, but I know one of our props at bluecoats got hashed in the start of the show. I think there might've been misinformation somewhere about it being set as a college hash?
You certainly gave me a lot of flashbacks! Most notably what we called "fratsnapping" or what you called African snapping. I forgot where I had learned it until you reminded me it was a dci thing, and I remembered the year I marched I put a lot of effort into learning how to do it.
Fun corps wake up story: In 2011 at 7th Regiment, the front ensemble woke the corps up for open class finals with our lot tune (Africa by Toto). Later during finals week in Indianapolis the drumline played the cadence to wake the corps up.
Man this was great. Ive been getting into DCI a lot more lately and I wanted to learn more about the culture and what goes on on the inside. Wonderful👍
Fact: My brother performed for Pioneers in... I believe 2017-2018? In a parade in the upper-midwest (forgot if it was Chicago or Miluakee) He was still in the Pioneers group chat after his short stint with the group and picked up on the horrors going on in that group chat. My brother was also one of the whistleblowers for the Pioneers (he also told me a middle-school band could perform better than that group).
Went to high school with a guy who did front ensemble for Pioneer Indoor in 2015 and 2016. Luckily they were spared from the mess at Pio and split cleanly. His experience was really good there, I’m glad your brother got out before shit REALLY hit the fan.
36:00, Six Flags ride operator here: we also use Squincher during the hot summer days, at least at my park. Not sure about the other theme parks. I had no idea Squincher was also popular amongst DCI kids haha
Back in the day, I knew Jeremy Seneca as a brass tech for my high school marching band and his wife (the Cadets member in the infamous photo with him at finals retreat) is an alumnus of my high school. So, I guess I must be pretty deep beneath the water?
Hi. '94 Glassmen contra bass member here and also former Morehead State Univ. band member. I had no idea that happened to Tim Snyder. I used to play Tuba with him back in 94-96 at Morehead State. Back in the summer of 1995 he, Brian Ellis, and I were working on making Winter Marching Brass Ensemble a thing and he developed a music set and theme for the first show, Brian worked on drill and music, and I worked on some ideas and rules for the activity. I got out of music education about a year after that and always wondered what happened with that idea. Not sure if it was the genesis of the current activity I'm seeing now through WGI, but it was an attempt to start it.
Yeah you don't mess with a guy from the mean streets of Crestwood, KY (but now that I think about it Tim might be from Goshen) Anyway those South Oldham boys know how to rumble.
Disaster after 88 Madison win - After their win on their 50th Anniversary, Corps members were traveling to a Corps function and had a car crash. All of the members died except one, who was paralyzed from the chest down. The next year, Madison bought him a car pacifically made for a paralyzed person to drive. He became an equipment judge for Winter Guard… he is extremely loved.
2008: The hardest thing in 2008 was having John have us all together(horns) and tell us in the morning before leaving for finals that Phantom bought 45 to the 45 seats. Went on to tell us the fact they all had been instructed when in the show to stand and cheer and was warned we were most likely going to need to step it up. I can tell you I did play something I fully regret at the end of the all corps and John ran up asking, " is that how you're going to end your season". I don't want to bring up what happened next but was not good. There isn't a single recording of what I played to this day as the videos all cut right before I play the line. Drama you might want to find is 2008 regional of I think it was Alamo.....only half the corps started. 2007: The field was fine and honestly hearing George ask for the field painting based on what he saw with the weather app.
My brother and I played with the Kenosha, WI Kingsmen for many years The GREAT 60's Era ! Maybe ? one of the first All Age Corps. A bunch of us use to get together for corps shows, but stopped going to this DCI thing many years ago !!!!!!!
I wish I could find out where and why the rumor spread because it's definitely one of the weirder ones. Weirder than bob barker dying in my eyes for sure.
Supposedly, he marched second mello in either ‘91 or ‘92. The rumor goes that his PR team didn’t like the fact that he marched DCI (thought it was bad for his image) and paid to have any evidence of him marching destroyed. However, there is still one group photo that exists showing Snoop in uniform. I swear I’ve seen it at some point, but it also could very well be a fever dream at this point. We’re talking 7-8 years ago during peak >implying days (iykyk). I choose to believe it’s cannon lol
Oh man this brings me back. Did Gold/PC/Blue Stars between '12 and '16. Thanks for the laughs, and i'm also glad to hear that the culture is improving with some of the more... questionable traditions phasing out.
You are a little off on the Blast! history. The 1994 and 1995 seasons, Star of Indiana was still operating as Star of Indiana, they were doing a brass theatre summer program with the Canadian Brass (I know it was the Canadian Brass in 94, not sure about 95) A couple of the designers then workshopped the brass theatre concept to a Broadway show. The show Blast!, was not part of the Star of Indiana organization and did not premiere until late 1999 or 2000. (As there are 3 members of the 1999 Crossmen, who I marched with, that are in the original cast) The PBS broadcast was the show seen in both New York and in London's West End. In 2002, they were workshopping a new version of the Show with Wayne Downey writing the brass book. The did a preview show series in Walt Disney World.
Me during this video: "I know, I know, I know..." Also, ngl, that 2023 Crown Baritone 3DS cam pissed me off. I was really wanting a horn cam to learn the music and he put that out. Normally, it would be funny to me, but I was not amused because there were no other baritone cams posted at the time and it took a long time before another baritone finally posted a decent cam. In the end though, I am grateful that they post these things at all because I know they don't have to. Also also, why skip For Holy Name Shall Always Be?
I would like to see a Canadian Drum Corps iceberg. Some topics to include could be: Drum Corps National/"What about us?" Toronto being the only city to ever have two corps in DCI Finals DCI Finals in Montreal ^ Highest ever attendance for DCI Finals ^SCV tear due to the audience being so loud ^ Moving the field back 15 yards due to the sound issues 55 yard line (unsure if there are any actual stories about this, but Canadian football fields are larger than American fields) 9/11 killing off Canadian corps Les Stentors The Calgary Stampede Showband
The absolute shock and AWE on my face when i'm watching this video and the screen scrolls down to about halfway down the iceberg and i simply see "SHAWN NAGPAL" I busted out laughing! I think i vaguely know why he's on here, but I never actually got to know the full story. I was just super surprised to see his name here because he was one of my baritone techs when i marched for crossmen in 2022! I do know he's somewhat of a cryptid in the drum corps community somehow? something like that. When i auditioned for Bloo the following season (and didnt make it lol) i remember we were doing casual icebreakers during some down time at that camp and when i said i marched with Crossmen last year", 2 kids immediately were like "OMG SO YOU KNOW SHAWN NAGPAL?!?"
Also side note, and semi-unrelated, the dude is a living meme anyway. Among the collective members/former members of Crossmen from the '21 - '23 seasons, there are a good few dozen or so meme worthy pics of that man, my favorite of which, a screenshot of the baritone group chat where he "threatened" us with a knife (he was helping in the cook truck that night) if we didn't finish our dotbooks that night lmao
and completely true. Ask anybody that marched back then. Even drum corps magazines mentioned it. Drum corps used to be a summer activity to get kids off the streets. Now it’s an art form nearly exclusively for musicians. There’s nothing wrong with the change, but it’s not like it can’t be talked about.
@@CJsMusicTrumpet it's an over generalization, not all inner city kids behave in one specific way and it doesn't mean they cannot be polished musicians
Has someone who marched in 2007 finals, I can definitely tell you that the field really does suck. It felt like you're marching on concrete and the yard lines and hash were really hard to see so if you had intervals that were two steps apart and you're making sharp turns and you so happen to be holding a contra, good luck
31:21 you fail to mention the aspect of color guard (which i dont blame u for). Color guard terminology and technique very from east coast to west coast. For example, the angle of a shoulder hip is steeper on the east coast, proper techinque for catching a sabre is different: one catches a standard sabre toss with the right hand much closer to the hilt on the west coast compared to the east coast, along with much more
32:34 ‘42 Buckaroos reminds me largely of Goncharov… a fictional creation that’s idolized by a niche group of people (dci alumni and tumblr users, respectively)
For the most part 70s and 80s Drum Corps were kids who only marched Drum Corp never did marching band. Started at 10 years old and younger. Bandos were the kids we recruited that only did high school marching band and some had never heard of Drum Corp.
@@actionhero27 Guess that makes me a bando, then. I wasn't recruited necessarily, but after seeing my first show with VK, BD, and SCV in 91, I was hooked and joined up the next year.
Idk where else to put this but when I aged out of SOA in 2021 after our first Lucas Oil run I found a button that I determined to be off a Troopers contra. We both had Adams horns, and theirs were gold, so it was easy to tell. They found out but I will never return it. And I marched with it on my bari for the other runs (I can't remember if 1 or 2 more at this point). Also I snuck a 1st person vid in Lucas Oil thanks to cutting a whole in my jacket and a special phone harnass using white ductape and a strap thing. (It's posted on my channel).
I marched Cavaliers in 2008, that is NOT Jermery Seneca on the cadets foot. It is a guy named Jordan Pike. You are correct on the GF picture though.
The story behind that, if you watch the 2008 finals scores broadcast you will see Cavaliers fall once they announce BD's score. We were stretching on finals rehearsal day and one of our tuba players said, " You know, if Phantom wins tonight, we should all do a mass suicide. I mean our third movement is called Death Before Dishonor. It is the Samurai way." We all thought it was hilarious! So our horn sergeants walked around retreat block with the color guard "swords" and when they announced "Blue Devils" our sergeant yelled like a Samurai and ran down the line "Killing" people. Jordan Pike was one of those people and purposely fell in the Cadets block because we knew the Cadets were "Not allowed to move." Hopkins came running because he thought the member passed out. Jordan thought it was a member for a second and didnt move. Once he realized it was Hopkins he got up really quickly.
I didn't know most of these. Interesting stuff!
emc your videos are amazing they’ve provided my non-percussionist-self so much insight about percussion. you’re the best, keep it up man! 👍
No way it’s the real EMC!
In the wild sighting!!
This feels like a meme within itself
Yo Eric!
BRING BACK LOT FIGHTS 2024 BABYYYYYY
Bring back raiding each other's food trucks! We used to walk up to Star's food truck at night because they had rich-people snacks.
Crown singing the national anthem in the showers in 2023 but replacing all of the words with "there's a bomb" so we got told we couldn't talk about bombs in public anymore.
This is legitimately the funniest thing I have ever seen in UA-cam comments
BLATT CORPS😂😂😂😂
"That's my house!" bro that poor woman
Finally, a iceberg video that i actually feel compelled to watch
It's so funny how far down the iceberg Blast has fallen. That shit was a PHENOMENON when it first started.
Yeah, Blast was the reason I started playing trumpet when I was in 5th grade. I had no idea for a while that they were DCI related, let alone what Star of Indiana was. Now it’s cool to see so much of their music was from Star’s shows and I&E charts. Battery Battle still feels like a WGI show.
Fr, I’m still high school age and my BD showed Blast all the time whenever he missed for some reason.
Performed with them back when it was called Brass Theater
@@jasenswalley3985 awesome show. Were you in the touring version with Canadian Brass or the one in Branson?
@@skraegorn7317 I wasn't in either of those. The corps I marched in 96 performed with them at a couple of shows is how I performed with them. At the time it was just called Brass Theater and still had Star all over the place down to the uniforms and all.
Few things I want everyone to see regarding this video. I avoided Kelsi Monroe on the iceberg in an effort to keep my videos at least somewhat suitable for UA-cam. That is why I put "I'll be avoiding this one FHNSAB, I should have been more explicit though looking back. The murder case involving the caballeros admin member is a convoluted one, while he was involved with the caballeros during the year the event occurred after leaving prison he allegedly returned to the caballeros organization as the assistant corps director of the muchachos not the caballeros which I mistakenly said. As always thanks for correcting me and keeping me on my toes as I talk about the history of the activity we all love so much!
I'm glad to have been a part of a few of these :)
- 19 HOF halftime show
- *the* pillow fight
- the front yard lot
- "what's squincher"
2019 BANGER REPRESENTATION GOING CRAZY! RAAHHH
I marched in Spirit of Atlanta in 1980. I’ll never forget when they called us together to tell us Jim Ott had been killed. RIP to a singular talent.
I was in a competing corps in 1980. I recall rehearsal stopped and they told us.
i legitimately always thought it was BD high brass in 08
to see it be BK, a corps who was in that year during finals- COMPLETELY UNRELATED to the dispute between top 2 is absolutely friggin HILARIOUS-
It pleases me to know that my corps has always had an element of unhinged.
I remembered seeing it was BK. I didn’t know about the video though, that is one of the most unhinged things I’ve ever seen…
I marched Teal Sound in 1999 and in 2000 and I was the first member of the corps. I was rooting for them that 2012 season and they had the show to possibly break into the top 12 and they were so good. They kept climbing every year and disaster struck. Centerville, OH. What's sad is that the kids didn't even know till they got off the field after their performance in Centerfield. They were given multiple options and i don't remember what they were. But one was, get on 1 bus and head back to Florida (the other bus left to return to Florida) OR find another corps that has another opening spot and see if they will take you in. And thanks to the Colts D&B corps they pretty much took much took all the kids that wanted to continue on.
I watch random shows frequently i love teal sound if i was old enough i wouldve definitely tried out in 11 love that show! I hope 1 day someone makes a revivial or recognition of the corps, or all age or something, just loved everything about them, and their unis were so fashionable! Didnt know they played angels and demons too lol
Yoo, my friend was the one that started the 3DS recording trend 😂. He was the one that recorded the Carolina crown in McKinney video. It’s definitely one of the best/funniest DCI trends I’ve seen
who's the friend?
saw Boston at their Florida camp today and... my god.
Oh sure, they were pretty damn good last year. 12 to 6th is surely no joke. But this - what I saw today - this is now something entirely different. This is something that I've seen before. I've seen it and I recognize it as sure as I know my own face. I cannot mistake this feeling for anything other than what it most assuredly is. It is something I saw, and felt, back in 2012 with Crown; I saw and felt it again in '14 with TILT.
And this thing is - a Super Saiyan.
That's the only way I can explain it. Those corps in those years took that invisible step that upped their power to a level they had never achieved before. Maybe they didn't win it all, but that was not why we remember those shows. We remember because they had crossed some invisible line and the ultimate result of that was inevitable. Even if it took another season, even if it took two, their path was set.
Boston has crossed that line. It's not even about where they place this year. It's about putting everyone else; the fans, DCI, and the top 3, on notice. They know how to go Super Saiyan now, and they are coming.
We've had corps do 'dark' shows. We've had corps do artsy shows. We've had 'clever', and minimalist and Fellini-esque and psychedelic and you name it shows. Prepare for Angry. Animal Farm in comparison was just sarcastic with a touch of upset. Wicked Games was dark with a touch of brooding.
What is coming this year is controlled and brutal anger. I know it because even Gino was surprised enough by it to raise an eyebrow and say out loud, "these kids are very good at doing angry".
Anyways, I'm calling it right now. Top 4.
They'll fight it out with someone, possibly Cavs. Here's the Shamaliyan plot twist though. It's entirely too early to tell of course, but if they keep ramping up their power level at this same rate, they may very well leave 4th in their wake.
There, I said it. There is a definite possibility that, despite all I just said and what I've just predicted, that I might be underestimating them.
Following staff is a very real thing
They had a Florida camp????
Some iceberg topics from my time at cavaliers and devs.
Cavaliers/SCV - the noose
Cavaliers/phantom/BD - jolly rancher target practice at retreat
Cavaliers - “how do we get off the field”
Sevierville - the field with a crown you can’t see the front sideline from the back because the middle is so elevated
Cavaliers - stealing a blue devils uniform in 2009 and wearing it around the lot
RCC- press box on the 35
Why are pressboxes at weird places : < lmao
Don’t forget Death Grips sampling the Blue Devils drumline
Hawthorne Muchachos (DCI) folded in 1977, not the Hawthorne Caballeros (DCA) who are alive and well today. Both corps had the same sponsor and parent organization at the time.
Sorry I forgot to mention the switch. Hawthorn Caballeros was the corps that created the junior corps hawthorn muchachos which as you correctly stated folded in 1977. The person in question for the case I mentioned was involved with the hawethorn caballeros first and during the time of the incident and then allegedly returned to the muchachos and was with the corps till they folded. It is really convoluted and someone confusing and I do wish I had explained it better.
It's so funny to me to learn that Shawn Nagpal was some sort of big drum corps meme two seasons after he was my bari tech, what an amazing guy haha
swear ik this guy
huh that's funny Shawn Nagpal was my baritone tech too :)
I’ve enjoyed your videos so much! This one was interesting and fun as well! Some things I know , and some things were new to me. I have been around Drum Corps since the late 60s. I only had a chance to march in Senior Corps in ‘77 (?) with the Chicago Connection. Marched one season, then moved on to other things; but that time was unforgettable, and I feel privileged to have had that time. My love for Drum Corps will never die, and I’m so glad you are making these videos. Thank you!
No video of Whitewater wipeout? I was there, and remember it like it was yesterday. It was (I think) the 3rd of 4th time we had seen the Garfield show that year. It was groundbreaking and astonishing. So, when the marching dominos started to fall at the end of the show, we were in disbelief. We thought for sure that there would be injuries (beyond bloody lips and teeth).When we saw them again again at Finals, we held our breath during that move. And that time, many people cheered just because nobody fell.
Vid of the Wipeout likely does not exist. 1) Filming regionals was not a thing in 1984. 2) Camera were huge. 3) Cell phones did not exist.
There ARE the pics of the Wipeout, shown in this vid, but in 4 decades, that's all I've ever seen.
The only physical injury to a member (there were some horns that took damage) was a sprained/strained ankle for the soprano who tripped and started it all. He missed a couple of practices and maybe one show, but was back in the lie after that.
They got a perfect subcap score -- ensemble visual, IIRC -- and the fall did NOT cost them the win over SCV and us (BD)....SCV earned the win legit that night.
The Wipeout was missed by the upstairs visual judge because 1) it was way out at the end of the line on side 2 (audience right), 2) the judge was looking at the center of the form, and 3) they recovered VERY fast and were back in the line before the judge looked at them....not in the right spots, but in the form. And as it was the final move it in the show, placement in the line didn't mean anything.
The audio is from a brass judge, who could not score a visual caption.
Now...someone DID catch his heels on the move at finals -- it was in the center and on camera. Had HE fallen, I'd have my ring....but I'd hate to be him after that...he'd've been blaming himself for the loss for 4 decades....no bueno.
Heard about it in real time from nearby. It was big news that day. It happened.
Bro I marched Spirit of Atlanta in 2023 and I wasn't even aware of the Arby's-Spirit of Atlanta 2019 alliance. That's actually insane 😅
What’s up AJ
I marched the season after in 2021 (and I was even contracted as far back as 2020 when dci died, and I never really heard about it.) I did discover it on my own a bit before my season tho, but never asked.
Yeah, we all got to keep the Arby’s hats we wore for the commercial shoot. Fun stuff
The Jean Elizabeth Joseph story is so sweet and really embodies the best of human nature! Great video, super interesting as a drum corps fan who never marched corps.
I learned more about drum corps in 49 minutes than I did in 30 years...nice research!! Keep this up!!!
Something I want to add to 24:04: There's still some system blue products like the Evans SB heads, and Drillmasters shoes with the SB brand still on them. Also, I heard that Conn & Selmer got the patents from the Blue Devils to make the System Blue instruments as the King and Ludwig performance series.
The national anthem thing was started by 7th Regiment around 2017 TBH, it was basically a fun thing to do while showering. The acoustics in locker rooms are especially great for harmony. I'm pretty sure we started the trend because those seasons, we would sing it in the showers before shows, and get really odd looks from other corps. So, I think we were the first. Back then, Open Class championships were held in Michigan City, IN, and most of the housing sites did not have locker rooms that were large enough for an entire corps to shower. So a lot of OC corps were all doing pre-show showers at the show site. I think that is where the meme spread. 7R would enter the room, look at each other wordlessly, and start. Before OC finals, that meant that between 5 and 7 corps were showing in the same locker room at the same time, figuring out what the hell to do when the 7R folks were belting out the anthem as loud as they (we) could. We were on strict orders to NOT do this before OC prelims (we followed them), since our shower time overlapped with other corps performance times, and the showers looked right onto the field. We tried to also do it with the Soviet anthem, but it was hard to teach the lyrics. The international members of our corps were often very excited to sing our anthem with us.
I want to say it’s been a thing even before that. But yes it has very much been popularized in recent years.
Babe wake up new VisTech video just dropped 🔥🔥
(This was told to me from someone who was with the corps since 82) The 89 fracking incident was impart to stress over a home/family issues that was happening at that time
Gosh, I feel old. I've been out of the activity as a corps member since 2007. That summer, our busses had this brand new technology called wi-fi. It didn't really matter because nobody had ability to use it. The snap has been around much longer than most people realize. A lot of corps (mine included) only got off-time when it was laundry day. My last year, I think we had 2 full off days the entire summer. The day after off-days were usually the worst from a rehearsal stand point.
For some other oddities and terms in DCI (at least from my time):
2006 Capital Regiment
Box 5 vs box 1 housing
The RCA Dome
The mass brass debacle was common for several years (not just 2008 or by BK)
Bob Barker
2000 BD bass drummer
The Vanguard yell, particularly '02-'07
Similar to the Iowa town, rehearsing in Utah was always an interesting experience given the Mormon lifestyle.
Most corps until very recently never had medical staffs (We had Bandaids and Advil), strength coaches, and chefs, much less meteorologists
Buy-stops were a rare occurrence, and this was well before Bucees became what it is today.
The tick system was not used by DCI for the "first few years" but from 1972 through 1983 - eleven years.
G Bugles were how I learned what drum and bugle corps was. Back in middle school I was buying a step-up trumpet and I asked the guy why one of them had 2 valves. He let me play it too, they hardly sound like a trumpet at low volumes. But he told me what drum and bugle corps is, though he didn’t know what corps that soprano belonged to as it didn’t come with the original paperwork.
On the getting hashed note: As someone who marched in 2022, the allentown field was set really poorly, and multiple corps had issues with it
in what way? I just remember it being the same as any other high school field.
@@CJsMusicTrumpet I don't remember specifically, but I know one of our props at bluecoats got hashed in the start of the show. I think there might've been misinformation somewhere about it being set as a college hash?
I suppose if you are told something incorrect it can be confusing. But I remember that J birney drum has ALWAYS been HS hash
I literally marched with Shawn for 2 years at his start. He was iconic.
Shawn Nagpal
I got caught in the background of the recreation Cavs/Cadets photos from last season lmao
13:46 it's so surreal seeing this corps mentioned on here. My dad had a ton of friends who marched with them and frequently brings it up
Remember how I said reading the iceberg confused and interested me? Yeah it lived up to it. Holy crap lmao. Thank you for putting this together!
I actually was lucky enough to meet someone who helped stage manage BLAST! At temple
You certainly gave me a lot of flashbacks! Most notably what we called "fratsnapping" or what you called African snapping.
I forgot where I had learned it until you reminded me it was a dci thing, and I remembered the year I marched I put a lot of effort into learning how to do it.
Blast is actually back some of my friends have gotten spots for this upcoming year
Fun corps wake up story: In 2011 at 7th Regiment, the front ensemble woke the corps up for open class finals with our lot tune (Africa by Toto). Later during finals week in Indianapolis the drumline played the cadence to wake the corps up.
Lets just say, a certain Tuba player had "Spike". A missle like object that made its way onto the finals field in 2023.
They've been making that announcement at stadiums for year before that. I remember hearing it in '19
@MonoKyrios oh absolutely, I heard it all years I marched but we did in fact bring in a middle like object despite the announcement lol
Man this was great. Ive been getting into DCI a lot more lately and I wanted to learn more about the culture and what goes on on the inside. Wonderful👍
It's a world of its own with more lore than any one Corps can tell. Have fun learnin.
Louisiana Stars 2019
Spirit of Atlanta 2020-21 (rip 20)
Fact: My brother performed for Pioneers in... I believe 2017-2018? In a parade in the upper-midwest (forgot if it was Chicago or Miluakee) He was still in the Pioneers group chat after his short stint with the group and picked up on the horrors going on in that group chat. My brother was also one of the whistleblowers for the Pioneers (he also told me a middle-school band could perform better than that group).
Went to high school with a guy who did front ensemble for Pioneer Indoor in 2015 and 2016. Luckily they were spared from the mess at Pio and split cleanly. His experience was really good there, I’m glad your brother got out before shit REALLY hit the fan.
Me when the academy tuba line ate crayons
When do they not?
very in character
Know a guy who marched a year of academy as a tuba and ngl i can totally see this happening
Been awaiting this video !! Thank you
36:00, Six Flags ride operator here: we also use Squincher during the hot summer days, at least at my park. Not sure about the other theme parks. I had no idea Squincher was also popular amongst DCI kids haha
Back in the day, I knew Jeremy Seneca as a brass tech for my high school marching band and his wife (the Cadets member in the infamous photo with him at finals retreat) is an alumnus of my high school. So, I guess I must be pretty deep beneath the water?
If a drum corps had to warm up in my front yard, i wouldn't mind, that would be awesome
YOOOO SHAWN NAGPAL IS MY BAND DIRECTOR
Hi. '94 Glassmen contra bass member here and also former Morehead State Univ. band member. I had no idea that happened to Tim Snyder. I used to play Tuba with him back in 94-96 at Morehead State. Back in the summer of 1995 he, Brian Ellis, and I were working on making Winter Marching Brass Ensemble a thing and he developed a music set and theme for the first show, Brian worked on drill and music, and I worked on some ideas and rules for the activity. I got out of music education about a year after that and always wondered what happened with that idea. Not sure if it was the genesis of the current activity I'm seeing now through WGI, but it was an attempt to start it.
Yeah you don't mess with a guy from the mean streets of Crestwood, KY (but now that I think about it Tim might be from Goshen) Anyway those South Oldham boys know how to rumble.
the cabbies murder case one is wild. going on my 4th season marching there and never knew. great vid man!
Those who were in RAMD pronounced it Ram-D. I was there. It was WILD!!
This is so badass. Its bringing me so many great memories to my drum corps years
Disaster after 88 Madison win - After their win on their 50th Anniversary, Corps members were traveling to a Corps function and had a car crash. All of the members died except one, who was paralyzed from the chest down. The next year, Madison bought him a car pacifically made for a paralyzed person to drive. He became an equipment judge for Winter Guard… he is extremely loved.
The Foreskin Fusiliers are right up there with the ‘42 Buckaroos. I didn’t know Sqwincher existed anywhere else outside of my current job.
2008: The hardest thing in 2008 was having John have us all together(horns) and tell us in the morning before leaving for finals that Phantom bought 45 to the 45 seats. Went on to tell us the fact they all had been instructed when in the show to stand and cheer and was warned we were most likely going to need to step it up. I can tell you I did play something I fully regret at the end of the all corps and John ran up asking, " is that how you're going to end your season". I don't want to bring up what happened next but was not good. There isn't a single recording of what I played to this day as the videos all cut right before I play the line. Drama you might want to find is 2008 regional of I think it was Alamo.....only half the corps started.
2007: The field was fine and honestly hearing George ask for the field painting based on what he saw with the weather app.
Re: Sqwincher. It was during the 2019 season. I was a camera operator for that livestream while interning with DCI and it was indeed quite funny
I marched '16-18. You completely reawoke the memory of Implying for me
Yooooo it’s me! 47:43
which one
@@samuelt8602 the Cavalier, pointing at the camera in the remake picture
@@josj0706nice
i officially love you cjs music thank you for this post 💕
You had me at buc-ees
Loved this fun and obscure facts video. Thank you. Please do more. 😊
My brother and I played with the Kenosha, WI Kingsmen for many years The GREAT 60's Era ! Maybe ? one of the first All Age Corps.
A bunch of us use to get together for corps shows, but stopped going to this DCI thing many years ago !!!!!!!
I find it funny that ik some of the rly rly deep ones but not some of the higher ones
Snoop Dogg 100% marched Mandarins
I wish I could find out where and why the rumor spread because it's definitely one of the weirder ones. Weirder than bob barker dying in my eyes for sure.
I thought it was 91, in which he wouldve been 19 and before his appearance in dre's album in 92
Supposedly, he marched second mello in either ‘91 or ‘92. The rumor goes that his PR team didn’t like the fact that he marched DCI (thought it was bad for his image) and paid to have any evidence of him marching destroyed. However, there is still one group photo that exists showing Snoop in uniform. I swear I’ve seen it at some point, but it also could very well be a fever dream at this point. We’re talking 7-8 years ago during peak >implying days (iykyk). I choose to believe it’s cannon lol
@CJsMusicTrumpet has clearly been paid off by Snoop’s publicists to cover up this fact
Oh man this brings me back. Did Gold/PC/Blue Stars between '12 and '16. Thanks for the laughs, and i'm also glad to hear that the culture is improving with some of the more... questionable traditions phasing out.
good video keep posting, i love to watch them -Jackson english
thank you, love the drum corp content!
You are a little off on the Blast! history. The 1994 and 1995 seasons, Star of Indiana was still operating as Star of Indiana, they were doing a brass theatre summer program with the Canadian Brass (I know it was the Canadian Brass in 94, not sure about 95) A couple of the designers then workshopped the brass theatre concept to a Broadway show. The show Blast!, was not part of the Star of Indiana organization and did not premiere until late 1999 or 2000. (As there are 3 members of the 1999 Crossmen, who I marched with, that are in the original cast) The PBS broadcast was the show seen in both New York and in London's West End. In 2002, they were workshopping a new version of the Show with Wayne Downey writing the brass book. The did a preview show series in Walt Disney World.
I was looking to see if anyone brought this up and would have if you hadn't... 👍Thanx muchly...😎
@@michaelgwfrogwelge Im just an old fart who remembers back that far.
Thank you for making this!
Damn didn’t cover the light up uniforms with SCV surprised
that Jersey Surf wake-up call gave me chills
That’s crazy bc at mandarins we definetly say “danger bays” (at least on the guard bus)
4:51 is such a pleasure to exerience in person, Already counting down the days till 2024s lol
5:18 whooooo I have no idea what a dot is other that a place you’re supposed to be on the field FRONT ENSEMBLE EVERY DAY BABY!!!!!!
What about breaking down some of the season specific icebergs in future videos?
Me during this video: "I know, I know, I know..." Also, ngl, that 2023 Crown Baritone 3DS cam pissed me off. I was really wanting a horn cam to learn the music and he put that out. Normally, it would be funny to me, but I was not amused because there were no other baritone cams posted at the time and it took a long time before another baritone finally posted a decent cam. In the end though, I am grateful that they post these things at all because I know they don't have to. Also also, why skip For Holy Name Shall Always Be?
fave iceberg yet
holy this is about to blow up. 🔥🔥🔥
I would like to see a Canadian Drum Corps iceberg. Some topics to include could be:
Drum Corps National/"What about us?"
Toronto being the only city to ever have two corps in DCI Finals
DCI Finals in Montreal
^ Highest ever attendance for DCI Finals
^SCV tear due to the audience being so loud
^ Moving the field back 15 yards due to the sound issues
55 yard line (unsure if there are any actual stories about this, but Canadian football fields are larger than American fields)
9/11 killing off Canadian corps
Les Stentors
The Calgary Stampede Showband
The absolute shock and AWE on my face when i'm watching this video and the screen scrolls down to about halfway down the iceberg and i simply see "SHAWN NAGPAL"
I busted out laughing! I think i vaguely know why he's on here, but I never actually got to know the full story. I was just super surprised to see his name here because he was one of my baritone techs when i marched for crossmen in 2022! I do know he's somewhat of a cryptid in the drum corps community somehow? something like that. When i auditioned for Bloo the following season (and didnt make it lol) i remember we were doing casual icebreakers during some down time at that camp and when i said i marched with Crossmen last year", 2 kids immediately were like "OMG SO YOU KNOW SHAWN NAGPAL?!?"
Also side note, and semi-unrelated, the dude is a living meme anyway. Among the collective members/former members of Crossmen from the '21 - '23 seasons, there are a good few dozen or so meme worthy pics of that man, my favorite of which, a screenshot of the baritone group chat where he "threatened" us with a knife (he was helping in the cook truck that night) if we didn't finish our dotbooks that night lmao
"then consisted of inner city kids, rather than the more polished musicians of today" is crazy ahh comment
and completely true. Ask anybody that marched back then. Even drum corps magazines mentioned it. Drum corps used to be a summer activity to get kids off the streets. Now it’s an art form nearly exclusively for musicians. There’s nothing wrong with the change, but it’s not like it can’t be talked about.
@@CJsMusicTrumpet it's an over generalization, not all inner city kids behave in one specific way and it doesn't mean they cannot be polished musicians
13:13 wait, thats my horn!
bro imagine u chilling in ur house and then your come outside and the bluecoats battery is there
7:57 good one
Has someone who marched in 2007 finals, I can definitely tell you that the field really does suck. It felt like you're marching on concrete and the yard lines and hash were really hard to see so if you had intervals that were two steps apart and you're making sharp turns and you so happen to be holding a contra, good luck
I still have my snaps from rookie year during the 2019 pillow fights 😭
ayo i be playing 3ds as we speak, famous recorder too, good stuff
Another amazing video
Is that Shawn Nagpal????
31:21 you fail to mention the aspect of color guard (which i dont blame u for). Color guard terminology and technique very from east coast to west coast. For example, the angle of a shoulder hip is steeper on the east coast, proper techinque for catching a sabre is different: one catches a standard sabre toss with the right hand much closer to the hilt on the west coast compared to the east coast, along with much more
Still using system blue at Atlanta CV may God bless us with new horns this season.
Battalion is in the west but we said Danger bay not the other thing. 31:15
26:30 rip 😔
Dawg how jfk saved Boston Crusaders(idk if it’s in your Boston video or not)
i think that would be a good topic for a video on its own
@@CJsMusicTrumpet so would the time BAC folded and the members got stuck in the UK
32:34 ‘42 Buckaroos reminds me largely of Goncharov… a fictional creation that’s idolized by a niche group of people (dci alumni and tumblr users, respectively)
Bandos meant something else in the 90s. Just a general term for all band nerds used by non-band nerds.
For the most part 70s and 80s Drum Corps were kids who only marched Drum Corp never did marching band. Started at 10 years old and younger. Bandos were the kids we recruited that only did high school marching band and some had never heard of Drum Corp.
@@actionhero27 Guess that makes me a bando, then. I wasn't recruited necessarily, but after seeing my first show with VK, BD, and SCV in 91, I was hooked and joined up the next year.
This is my kind of content
RIP that security guard, he got COOKED
Missed the 2013 crown drums placement
6th place for a winning corps....."beaten" by 84 Cadets....SEVENTH in drums.
Idk where else to put this but when I aged out of SOA in 2021 after our first Lucas Oil run I found a button that I determined to be off a Troopers contra. We both had Adams horns, and theirs were gold, so it was easy to tell.
They found out but I will never return it. And I marched with it on my bari for the other runs (I can't remember if 1 or 2 more at this point).
Also I snuck a 1st person vid in Lucas Oil thanks to cutting a whole in my jacket and a special phone harnass using white ductape and a strap thing. (It's posted on my channel).
I know what FHNSAB stands for, but what is the reason for not addressing it?
It wasn’t FHNSAB I wasn’t addressing but Kelsi Monroe. Just generally not safe for youtube or the content I want to produce.
@@CJsMusicTrumpetOk thanks for the response.