I played a Vietnam Game with MACV SOG Vietnam Veterans - ArmA 3 Prairie Fire DLC 4K

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  • @00Athus1
    @00Athus1 3 роки тому +5933

    This is straight up the biggest flex in the arma community.... SOG op with actual SOG members.

    • @j.sargenthill9773
      @j.sargenthill9773 3 роки тому +110

      I think Arma is a little under celebrated in terms of what it's inspired in more mainstream titles; state of decay, pubg, dayz, and fortnite are just a few that are practically direct descendents of it.

    • @FriendxA
      @FriendxA 3 роки тому +28

      @@j.sargenthill9773 dayz is a arma 2 mod

    • @j.sargenthill9773
      @j.sargenthill9773 3 роки тому +21

      @@FriendxA it is. but it is also a terrible stand-alone game

    • @FriendxA
      @FriendxA 3 роки тому +18

      @@j.sargenthill9773 opinions are like assholes.

    • @mixmaster1318
      @mixmaster1318 3 роки тому +4

      @@j.sargenthill9773 I thought the same until I played it on ps5 now everyone just thinks I'm hacking lol.

  • @theclassicliberal1915
    @theclassicliberal1915 3 роки тому +6365

    Also I love that people in their 60s & 70s are playing this game. That’s incredible. Says a lot about how great the game is.

    • @tonynagy2042
      @tonynagy2042 3 роки тому +90

      Cheers..!!!

    • @NZobservatory
      @NZobservatory 3 роки тому +369

      These must be the only senior gamers who can play in these servers and not automatically get accused of being pedophiles. xD

    • @joevk6274
      @joevk6274 3 роки тому +174

      I knew a dude in his 70s who played GTA San Andreas.

    • @AHSValor
      @AHSValor 3 роки тому +324

      I recall ARMA is also used to rehabilitate vets with PTSD

    • @anhingathing2382
      @anhingathing2382 3 роки тому +32

      @@AHSValor dang

  • @dfmrcv862
    @dfmrcv862 3 роки тому +2864

    Soo... we live in the timeline where vets got to play the very missions they fought in during an actual war in a video game... what a time to be alive.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 3 роки тому +59

      Wild isnt it!

    • @ayoutubecommenter1827
      @ayoutubecommenter1827 3 роки тому +136

      I lived stalingrad as a young panzergrenadier, now I play it

    • @ethanspaziani1070
      @ethanspaziani1070 3 роки тому +27

      Yeah that's pretty nuts isn't it when you really think about it those guys must be thinking that would never happen lol

    • @ianmedford4855
      @ianmedford4855 3 роки тому +42

      We need a 1980 Belfast campaign.

    • @therealslimshady3662
      @therealslimshady3662 3 роки тому +20

      @@ianmedford4855 oof m8

  • @tankacebo9128
    @tankacebo9128 3 роки тому +1389

    my school bus driver in high school was an air cav pilot who flew UH-1 Iroquois (Huey) helicopters in 'Nam. hell of a transition, assault helicopters to school buses full of screaming snot nosed brats. he drove that bus like he stole it. never a dull moment, he had some awesome stories.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 3 роки тому +48

      Love it! If he’s anything like Don he probably did (steal it)

    • @masonwright9000
      @masonwright9000 3 роки тому +81

      I had a bus driver exactly like that when I lived in Oregon. His name was Tim and he was super funny because he had a dark sense of humor. He drove that bus like a madman and was always a joy to ride with

    • @therealslimshady3662
      @therealslimshady3662 3 роки тому +48

      whats the difference? one is flying over the rice patties with a bunch of brats trying not to get killed, the other is flying over the road with a bunch of brats in the back tryin not to get killed.
      Same shit, bus driver probably gets worse pay tho

    • @yaboileeroy3038
      @yaboileeroy3038 2 роки тому +38

      If you knew anything about the Army, you’d know that being a chopper pilot is pretty much the same as being a school bus driver. The only thing different is a chopper gets shot at and the bus… Usually doesn’t.

    • @GlitchedBlox
      @GlitchedBlox 2 роки тому +8

      @@yaboileeroy3038 Usually not... Not if you're in the US.

  • @hunterlacer9728
    @hunterlacer9728 3 роки тому +432

    i looked up this unit and they have a 100 percent causality rate so damn near every single one of these vets were injured some way

    • @hughescrewchief836
      @hughescrewchief836 3 роки тому +202

      Ghostrider Don Here; That is correct also 11 MOH recipients and I believe 66 DSCs. Incredible group of warriors and their aircrews.

    • @nuclearkamikaze
      @nuclearkamikaze 2 роки тому +51

      Best training, riskiest missions. Least likelihood of returning, biggest chances for glory.

    • @douwehuysmans5959
      @douwehuysmans5959 2 роки тому +36

      @@nuclearkamikaze I've yet to hear a veteran speak about glory in war

    • @nuclearkamikaze
      @nuclearkamikaze 2 роки тому +30

      @@douwehuysmans5959 That’s probably why they’re called silent professionals. Don’t turn it into a sad boy meme, they’re not talking about with the intent you’re suggesting. They deserve as much recognition and merit we can give them for their sacrifices, fighting for their people and living through hell.

    • @douwehuysmans5959
      @douwehuysmans5959 2 роки тому +5

      @@nuclearkamikaze Don't put words in my mouth

  • @theresistance6722
    @theresistance6722 3 роки тому +4057

    These boys are probably having some extremely good, or extremely bad memories. Either way, you can tell they are enjoying the whole experience

    • @fiery_ginger7530
      @fiery_ginger7530 3 роки тому +488

      Fun fact
      Playng war video games or airsoft/paintball help veterans deal with ptsd
      Not for eveyone tho

    • @Pre.C_King
      @Pre.C_King 3 роки тому +126

      Probably both :) Being deployed and in an active zone makes bond like nowhere else.. And is often with experiences most would prefer never having. :P

    • @DeadLegMedia
      @DeadLegMedia 3 роки тому +116

      Both. The best stories I’ve got are also from the worst stories I’ve ever experienced. Life’s simpler when all you have to do is wake up, don’t die, keep the man on your left and right alive, and sleep.

    • @bobbyb4024
      @bobbyb4024 3 роки тому +24

      @@sublimelove23 They are kind of crazy and psychotic but they have a lot of admirable qualities

    • @sublimelove23
      @sublimelove23 3 роки тому +47

      @@bobbyb4024 lets face it, for those jobs in the military you have to be kind of psychotic. Well educated, good leadership qualities, superhuman drive, and alotta crazy

  • @DavidVanmeterDutch
    @DavidVanmeterDutch 3 роки тому +1136

    A major general?? And chopper pilot from the actual time and missions! I am actually a bit speechless on this. Amazing!

    • @Penitent_Intent
      @Penitent_Intent 2 роки тому +2

      EGG BEAST is a designer of the game

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 2 роки тому +11

      @@Penitent_Intent i have never described myself as one. I designed the game.

  • @clifbradley
    @clifbradley 3 роки тому +2791

    My step-father was MAC-V SOG. If any of them know Edwin Thomas Holman, please let me know.

    • @alienoftheapocalypse2183
      @alienoftheapocalypse2183 3 роки тому +291

      Did he know a michael ward? Rangers attached to mac v Saigon (if I am remembering correctly) .

    • @clifbradley
      @clifbradley 3 роки тому +396

      @@alienoftheapocalypse2183 I will ask him if you want me to. Obviously I'll see him tomorrow, but I'll ask now if you want. Rangers were attached to MAC V. My step-father was part of the Brownwater Army that patrolled on airboat and Mike boats. They dropped off Rangers, Delta, Seals, Snipers, RUF-PUF PRC's, CIA 'ghost teams' and ROK Marines for missions and then pulled them out when needed.

    • @clifbradley
      @clifbradley 3 роки тому +434

      @@alienoftheapocalypse2183 He said he did not. My step-father was in the Delta in Cao Lah as part of an A team Mike force, mobile strike force. If Mike knows anyone from there

    • @dad4life269
      @dad4life269 3 роки тому +160

      Upvote this comment folks

    • @mysticisback1651
      @mysticisback1651 3 роки тому +48

      Let me know if you find anyone, I'm intrigued

  • @nostradamusofgames5508
    @nostradamusofgames5508 3 роки тому +480

    It's crazy when you realize there are less and less Vietnam War vets now. I'm still used to the 2000's when almost everyday I met at least 1 VW vet. Now they're either dead or too old to go out. Depressing indeed.

    • @SavageGameDesign
      @SavageGameDesign 3 роки тому +58

      An undervalued generation.

    • @israelthmpsn
      @israelthmpsn 2 роки тому +8

      Agreed!.. getting older.

    • @aaahhhhhhh
      @aaahhhhhhh 2 роки тому +39

      I still know a ww2 vet. A truly dying breed, he has amazing stories about his boyhood and teenage years. It scares me that by 2030 there will be no ww2 vets left. Cherish your elders and learn from them, trust me when I say that they usually enjoy tell their stories as much as you will enjoy listening to them.

    • @SavageGameDesign
      @SavageGameDesign 2 роки тому +27

      @@aaahhhhhhh yep I grew up in the 1980s, drinking with WW2 vets who were prisoners of the Japanese. They opened my eyes to the horrors of war over beer and rum chasers in the navy association...

    • @drzaius8430
      @drzaius8430 2 роки тому +17

      @@SavageGameDesign same with my now deceased grand pa. Died in the 90s he's a ww2 vet and experienced the attacked at Pearl Harbor.
      Idk how he felt about Vietnam but I know how he felt about Japan, embarrassed I'm told. He saw anime and thought the nukes where to much. We nuked em so hard they went kawaii......

  • @jaw0449
    @jaw0449 2 роки тому +112

    MACV/SOG was a scary (badass) unit. I had the pleasure of knowing a couple growing up who greatly influenced my career in the Army

    • @JB-pp1kt
      @JB-pp1kt 2 роки тому

      Apparently they had a 100% death rate. The most dangerous job in the history of planet earth

    • @MalikShaunte
      @MalikShaunte Рік тому +4

      Yes they are.. And the blueprint for modern SF outside of SAS..

  • @camerinbrummett6511
    @camerinbrummett6511 3 роки тому +1245

    The story about the NVA soldier grabbing his buddy's boot was crazy, I was leaning forward into my speakers to make sure I could hear every word. What a wild experience that must have been

    • @okforsureguy6668
      @okforsureguy6668 3 роки тому +112

      John Stryker Myer was the man whos boot was grabbed, hes done plenty of interviews if you're interested. Highly recommend his appearances on Jockos podcast.

    • @alexcaswell5478
      @alexcaswell5478 3 роки тому +80

      John started his own podcast as well - "SOGCast". He's been at it for a short while now, interviewing various SOG members for their experiences/memories. If you want more insane SOG stories, definitely check it out. I highly recommend

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 3 роки тому +18

      @@alexcaswell5478 John aka Tilt is in our game along with wild carrot and el cid

    • @hughescrewchief836
      @hughescrewchief836 3 роки тому +39

      @@alexcaswell5478 Ghostrider Don Here; Jocko and Tilt's SOGCast #7 if you want to here about the 195th AHC Aviators. Who received one Silver Star and 8 Distinguished Flying Crosses extracting a SOG recon team and Hatched force about to be over run. Oh and with a Typhoon striking Vietnam and Cambodia. As Tilt says "just another day in SOG."

    • @alexcaswell5478
      @alexcaswell5478 3 роки тому +18

      @@hughescrewchief836 Hi Don! I've absolutely listened to your episode. You had some incredible stories to share; thank you for taking the time to do that. I know I speak for many when I say how honored we are to hear from folks like you. I can only begin to imagine what it was like. Truly hardcore men!

  • @canadianwardog7118
    @canadianwardog7118 3 роки тому +756

    This is therapy for most veterans, this is actually good for mental health, at the end of the day nobody gets hurt, there are laughs and they get to do something that they enjoy.

    • @bombomos
      @bombomos 3 роки тому +13

      That's a good way to look at it

    • @joneli5888
      @joneli5888 3 роки тому +139

      @@bombomos Getting to re-live your trauma in a way that you can enjoy and control are actually good coping mechanisms.

    • @scruggs6633
      @scruggs6633 3 роки тому +46

      @@joneli5888 Even reliving trauma in a way that you can't control, just in a repetitive movie type experience, is a way that they try to "desensitize" people to their triggers sometimes.

    • @combativeThinker
      @combativeThinker 3 роки тому +57

      @@scruggs6633
      Exposure therapy.

    • @antoniorizea2104
      @antoniorizea2104 2 роки тому

      @@combativeThinker Exactly.

  • @thelonewolfvoice8826
    @thelonewolfvoice8826 3 роки тому +747

    Man, the Maj. Gen sounds exactly like what you'd amagine a general to sound like; distinguished and mature yet still youthfully spry with an assertive tone, with years of experience you can practically hear. Love it. 👌

    • @nuru666
      @nuru666 2 роки тому +20

      And the ease of command literally dripping from every sound the man makes.

  • @greghoyt4061
    @greghoyt4061 2 роки тому +97

    When you take a moment to think about it, this is actually pretty amazing. Even with the inherent limitations of a game, having actual SOG operators playing along with this group and providing commentary and giving instructions provides a more in-depth and immersive experience than any biography or podcast appearance ever could. It’s incredibly surreal.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 2 роки тому +10

      Well said. That was our goal in making the dlc with them

  • @Briselance
    @Briselance 3 роки тому +95

    Playing ArmA with with Vietnam vets is already something. But with one of them being a former major-general? Man, that's... insane.

    • @thestaubmob6877
      @thestaubmob6877 Рік тому +8

      He is the very model of a former major general

  • @fuzzyhead878
    @fuzzyhead878 3 роки тому +4772

    Virgin twitter user: “OK, Boomer…”
    Chad Arma player: “Copy that, Boomer”

    • @snowi9585
      @snowi9585 3 роки тому +197

      True. I respect Drew a lot for respecting what people went through in their younger years, rather than the "ya alright old man"

    • @desertranger1095
      @desertranger1095 3 роки тому +74

      Honestly I feel more natural talking to a vet than to other civilians.

    • @connorbranscombe6819
      @connorbranscombe6819 3 роки тому +101

      @@desertranger1095 Vets are civilians bro.

    • @m00se37
      @m00se37 3 роки тому +13

      I would go through a meat grinder if they told me too

    • @big_petebear8535
      @big_petebear8535 3 роки тому +81

      Vietnam combat vets are the only Boomers that aren't arrogant and annoying in my experience.
      Totally makes you see how awesome the generation could have been if they weren't so selfish.

  • @True_Faceless
    @True_Faceless 3 роки тому +750

    The amount of honour drew must have felt was probably out of this world

  • @redratmtb9942
    @redratmtb9942 3 роки тому +483

    Bro I'm not going to lie after watching this for 10 mins, I started to cry. I was thinking about my brother when he was still in Afghanistan, I think that it is good that the vets in the video are able to talk about what happened when they there in combat. Sadly for some people that is not all ways the case, when you start asking they just get up and leave or pretend that your not there or start swearing and crying. Sadly my brother did not come home, before he left we there sitting at the dinner table and he said that this would be his last deployment to Afghanistan . He told us that ",there was nothing to fear because I will come back, be free and have more time to spend with us." After dinner I was talking to him, he looked me in the eyes and said, " I know that your sad to see me go but this is the last time, besides when I come back I will take you mountain biking or skiing." We waved him off and watched him drive off into the night, sadly this was the last time that I saw him. On 26 August 2021, at 17:50 he was killed at the air port in Afghanistan. In the late morning we where told what happened, I felt ashamed, angry and sad. It hit me even harder when we saw him come back in a box with the American flag over it, to see him living then not was sad. RIP all vets that have died, been injured and injured mentality.

    • @forevermarked5826
      @forevermarked5826 3 роки тому +50

      Omg your brother was one of them?! I remember that day, it just happened
      What was your brothers name? I'll look him up a d pray for him and your family tonight. I'm am so sorry about your loss, i didnt lose family.member but your story is similar to one of my bestfriends. His name was Christopher Wilson. His name is etched into stone confront of our local high school, theres a memorial. He was also on his last deployment in Afghanistan a d was actually also getting out of the army within few months and there are 2 different accounts of what happened 1. Taliban threw a grenade and Chris jumped right on top of it to save 3 of his men. And the other version is one of his own men threw the grenade a d ot bounced back and he jumped onto it to save 3 of his men. We do not know which is the true version either way to know my good friend sacrificed himself and jumped on to a grenade is insane but not surprised to learn he did it. He was exactly the type. So I can relate more then you kno friend. I cant believe to be speaking to a family member of one of the soldiers who died at the Kabul airport that day
      If u ever need to vent I'm hear friend., if u need to talk or anything.

    • @Comproleplayer
      @Comproleplayer 3 роки тому +42

      I knew someone who died at the airport in Kabul. We'd only met through a milsim server we both played on but he was a brilliant guy, made everyone laugh and was just a nice person to everyone but then we sadly found out that he was one of the Marines who was killed. My condolences to your family, I hope you're okay

    • @Beebeebeeboo
      @Beebeebeeboo 3 роки тому +7

      Hey man, make sure that you do your best to stick with your family so you can help each other heal as much as possible. Don't be afraid of therapy because it'll make you all stronger and closer, and it'll be easier together.

    • @redratmtb9942
      @redratmtb9942 3 роки тому +26

      @@forevermarked5826 Thank you for your support, I appreciate very much. My brothers name is Daegan Page, he was serving with 2nd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment based at Camp Pendleton. Sorry for your lose, I wish your friend Christopher a happy rest. What he did would have taken a lot of courage and balls. Christopher choices to die for others. Again thank you for the support, my family thank you.

    • @redratmtb9942
      @redratmtb9942 3 роки тому +7

      @@Comproleplayer Thank you, sadly all the good guys die.

  • @goose5718
    @goose5718 2 роки тому +76

    My grandfather served in Vietnam, and all though I can’t show him this video I’m sure he would be proud that veterans of this war are finally getting the respect they deserve

  • @ferallion3546
    @ferallion3546 3 роки тому +54

    Jocko interviewed quite a few of these guys and what they did and how they think is inspiring.
    This is a awesome to see Drewski. Keep up the great work brother.
    This is the beginning of a new way of teaching history from those who were there. I think we'll see much more of this to come. This was my Dad's era of military service. During gun school training at NTC Great Lakes, we LOVED the Vietnam guys. They had a grit and humor that was unmatched and really reminded us of the WWII vets.

    • @SavageGameDesign
      @SavageGameDesign 2 роки тому +3

      Thanks - i think you understood the point of making our game completely - DOL :)

  • @tylerbaum4236
    @tylerbaum4236 3 роки тому +787

    My grandfather was MACV-SOG sadly he took most of his stories with him.

    • @Americkslander
      @Americkslander 3 роки тому +58

      my grandpa would've gone to Vietnam, but he lost parts of two of his fingers in a lumber mill accident. im glad he didn't go

    • @randomjtf2op
      @randomjtf2op 3 роки тому +46

      My grandpa was a Viet Minh in the Franco - Vietnamese war, he got shot in the head but luckily he survived.

    • @user-03-gsa3
      @user-03-gsa3 3 роки тому

      @@6pasa488 Not really

    • @motionlessr6345
      @motionlessr6345 3 роки тому +22

      @@Americkslander a guy at my church was on a plane halfway to 'Nam when the war ended.
      I found this out when he was helping me put a net on my WW2 reenactment kit and he started talking about his own helmet and I was like
      "You served!?!?" And we started talking about his experiences and his father's WW2 stories and I nearly teared up when he thanked me for doing reenactment

    • @dominiqueglover4978
      @dominiqueglover4978 3 роки тому +23

      My grandfather was a Green Beret in Vietnam but he told us very little about his service. I believe he might've been MACV-SOG but we're not entirely sure. I only say this because there are some missing bits of service on his papers when he got out and he also knew a ton of CIA guys. Bit of an enigma but yeah he took a lot of the stories with him as well.

  • @UselessFodder
    @UselessFodder 3 роки тому +302

    This op was an absolute blast. It was so cool having boots on the ground with the real deal and seeing how their thought processes worked, even in game. I hope we get to do another one soon!

  • @R3DNECK
    @R3DNECK 3 роки тому +601

    As a veteran, I'm both impressed and annoyed at your "I'm up, they see me, I'm down" bit. You've definitely played with your share of vets.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 3 роки тому +128

      That was planning for the rooftop fight - as we were on green hell difficulty there were over 200 weapons trained on us on that rooftop. IDF an absolute necessity

    • @camoman132
      @camoman132 Рік тому +6

      Why annoyed?

    • @danielescobar7618
      @danielescobar7618 Рік тому +2

      I'm up. I'm home now. No one sees me. I'm down.

    • @balboboogins2511
      @balboboogins2511 Рік тому +5

      @@camoman132my guess is that it’s Drewski isn’t a vet and hasn’t experienced combat like those guys 👍

    • @muthaz1952
      @muthaz1952 Рік тому +6

      I learned this from my roommate who was a marine, and we used to get high, listen to music, play guitar, and he would tell me war stories. It was burned into my brain.

  • @dd11111
    @dd11111 2 роки тому +38

    I'd like to commend the emotional maturety and fortitude of these veterans and any others that can understand, accept or even enjoy Games based on the conflicts they took part in. And our morbid fascination and enjoyment with the stories and games that spring from the stressfull and often horrid situations and circumstances that these warriors had to endure.

    • @SavageGameDesign
      @SavageGameDesign 2 роки тому +7

      men will always want to hear tales of warriors ;)

  • @theariesexperiment4642
    @theariesexperiment4642 2 роки тому +32

    I can emphasize enough how f_ckin cool this is. Real SOG's running op's in ARMA. 🤯 It doesn't get any better than this. Thank you with all my heart for your service gentlemen. God Bless you boys. 🇺🇸💪👍

  • @bubbacalderon6234
    @bubbacalderon6234 3 роки тому +101

    Honestly what an incredible video...the veterans older voices giving call outs and orders sounded like real coms... literally gave me goosebumps

    • @grim3646
      @grim3646 2 роки тому +4

      Totally agree this was an incredible video! Kinda surreal in a way

  • @noelwaterman6021
    @noelwaterman6021 3 роки тому +304

    Now this what I believe Arma can be, great job Drew

  • @DannyFPV04
    @DannyFPV04 3 роки тому +2988

    Drewski…I’m a vet and would love to play this game with you. How can we make this happen? Let Rob know we need to do this! :)
    Good video bro

  • @nrg6245
    @nrg6245 2 роки тому +14

    Nothing is more calming and soothing and makes me feel safer when someone in the army like a General or someone on comms saying what the mission is and giving the run down it’s like that’s our boys out there.

  • @mkms685
    @mkms685 3 роки тому +30

    The way these guys plan their maneuvers in-game while in the Huey gives me chills.

  • @sainterasmus4545
    @sainterasmus4545 3 роки тому +205

    The way they were moving through the jungle in a spread out line gave me flashbacks to my own experience in the army, awesome stuff. Although, definitely wouldn't be crouch walking that much, that shit is tough even without equipment.

    • @nybergsgarage
      @nybergsgarage 3 роки тому +18

      crouch walking is quit painful over long distances. but it works well in a game.

    • @TripleTrickShot
      @TripleTrickShot 2 роки тому +3

      @@nybergsgarage i can feel the phantom pain soreness in my thighs neck and back

    • @SavageGameDesign
      @SavageGameDesign 2 роки тому +3

      too right, we do it because in Arma 3 it makes you make less noise so the AI enemy won't hear you coming... gives you a chance to detour or ambush.

  • @dhruvyadav780
    @dhruvyadav780 3 роки тому +332

    Wow, really did not expected Vietnam veterans to play video games.

    • @toyotawitha20mm35
      @toyotawitha20mm35 3 роки тому +82

      My grandfather flew in the hal-3 helicopter squadron in Vietnam and was in a naval helicopter squadron throughout the 70s and 80s, he plays video games too, mostly sci fi though, hes not into war games he thinks they are sometimes depressing.

    • @dhruvyadav780
      @dhruvyadav780 3 роки тому +42

      @@toyotawitha20mm35 Ohh, that's very bad ass bro, thank him for his service on my behalf.

    • @jimmyseaver3647
      @jimmyseaver3647 3 роки тому +43

      @@toyotawitha20mm35 Honestly, considering the things he probably saw, I don't blame him.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 3 роки тому +8

      Its great to revisit their history in this more understanding age

    • @combativeThinker
      @combativeThinker 3 роки тому +1

      @@toyotawitha20mm35
      He wouldn’t like Battletech then, lmao. Centuries of nonstop warfare grinding humanity into a technological dark age as entire worlds, their populations, and all their factories are consumed in nuclear hellfire.

  • @ITMeCE
    @ITMeCE 3 роки тому +147

    It must have been stressful since he’s, you know a major general… the other team had NO IDEA.

    • @fuzzyhead878
      @fuzzyhead878 3 роки тому +65

      “Boy, I’ve been doing this since before Pong was made…”

    • @OldestHouse
      @OldestHouse 3 роки тому +35

      pretty sure the other team is bots

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 3 роки тому +34

      @@OldestHouse they were but there were so many of them on max skill… we do get stomped frequently - it’s always a huge buzz to make extraction

    • @justineallandevelos6491
      @justineallandevelos6491 3 роки тому +7

      @@fuzzyhead878 " lemme show you how we did it back in Vietnam son!"

  • @TheRealKjareFox
    @TheRealKjareFox 2 роки тому +235

    To any Vietnam veterans who happen to stumble upon this comment Thank you for your service and welcome home! Your sacrifice will never be forgotten

    • @ManiacMayhem7256
      @ManiacMayhem7256 2 роки тому +23

      Sad about the POWs left behind though. God bless every one of them.

    • @ligma212
      @ligma212 Рік тому +1

      Stunning and brave

    • @ligma212
      @ligma212 Рік тому

      @@penguinpie5056 as an American (native) who is anti imperialism and experienced the cruelty of this system....this is based. Unsurprising the " anti participation trophy" boomers are giving participation trophies for these false flag wars

    • @cyclone8974
      @cyclone8974 Рік тому

      @@HerkNewz69
      Myth: The National Liberation Front which was the underground opposition government to Saigon, controlled the Viet Cong and prepared the declaration of how the South would be governed once the revolution was accomplished.
      Fact: The National Liberation Front was a front organization under command and control of North Vietnam. The Viet Cong were members of the People's Army of Viet Nam.
      North Vietnamese documents confirm that the NLF was merely a front organization and was under the complete control of the North Vietnamese communist party under Ho Chi Minh.
      Ho Chi Minh created the Viet Minh, an ostensibly nationlist organization, in 1941 to bring "independence" to Vietnam. The Viet Minh co-opted the real nationalist organization, the VNQDD.
      Southern nationalists were completely co-opted by the communists. Those who refused to go along were either slaughtered or escaped.
      The communists controlled or influenced violent action in the South as early as 1947 and throughout the period of the French Indochina War (1946-1954)
      The official policy of North Vietnam was to create never-ending violence in the South - assassinations, torture, rape and kidnappings - until the Southern government collapsed because it could not protect the people.

    • @MaxTeky
      @MaxTeky Рік тому

      @@HerkNewz69 communists got owned and pwned lolololol

  • @RGMRT
    @RGMRT 2 роки тому +25

    Bro the atmosphere of this DLC.
    I live in east Indonesia and often when i was still a kid my dad used to take me along with his buddies to do hunting using air rifles in the forest JUST like these. It's not rare that rain started pouring down when we were in the middle of the hunt. This is just crazy.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 2 роки тому +7

      Glad to hear we got things right. Atmosphere is everything in a game like this.

  • @bailev7129
    @bailev7129 3 роки тому +67

    These are some of the most badass men, and they’re chilling playing arma just living the old days, love it

  • @bleep_bl3fromthefuture
    @bleep_bl3fromthefuture 3 роки тому +378

    New video idea drewski : “I played Hell let loose with real WW2 Germans”

    • @nunbiz7328
      @nunbiz7328 3 роки тому +16

      Based

    • @patriot17764th
      @patriot17764th 3 роки тому +1

      please do.

    • @kenzoo5416
      @kenzoo5416 3 роки тому +4

      @@patriot17764th most of them are dead...

    • @gamernotvalid9452
      @gamernotvalid9452 3 роки тому +10

      They're either all dead or in their 90s. Not gonna happen dweeb

    • @klimzy1282
      @klimzy1282 2 роки тому +2

      @@gamernotvalid9452 wtf

  • @bendermender926
    @bendermender926 3 роки тому +82

    Tilt's story had shivers rollin down my spine man. The way he crept back the same that he crept up was just freaky as hell.

    • @hughescrewchief836
      @hughescrewchief836 3 роки тому +26

      Ghostrider Don here; As Tilt says "Just Another Day in SOG."

  • @whc1498
    @whc1498 2 роки тому +10

    The fact that these gentleman are even able to play such a game and basically "re-enact" the things that they did is truly remarkable.

  • @vtechvsmile
    @vtechvsmile 2 роки тому +24

    weirdly enough my favorite parts of this video were the bits spent in total silence just listening. having real vets in game really makes you think about how fucking scary this must have been in real life

  • @hagenhog
    @hagenhog 3 роки тому +131

    Thats cool. Them guys came home to straight hate at home. I hate how they have been treated. God bless all troops including the brave who fought in a terrible war. Vietnam was a horrible place.

    • @tomlusk7873
      @tomlusk7873 3 роки тому +24

      I was spit on when I got off the plane Fort Dix New Jersey headed to Germany

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 3 роки тому +18

      @@tomlusk7873 tom thats terrible to hear. From a brit who just made this game with the sog vets, welcome home and thanks for serving! I hope you found peace with your war experiences

    • @tomlusk7873
      @tomlusk7873 3 роки тому +7

      @@b-52eggbeast88 thank you it was my pleasure to serve

    • @tomlusk7873
      @tomlusk7873 3 роки тому +8

      @@b-52eggbeast88 I was lucky I was sent to Germany instead of Vietnam but it still did not take the sting away from being spit on when I got off the plane and Fort Dix New Jersey to get on another plane to go to Germany for three years

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 3 роки тому +10

      @@tomlusk7873 its all service for your country. Im glad that these days that kind of behaviour is not going to happen

  • @stephonblackett2592
    @stephonblackett2592 3 роки тому +46

    Extract was hectic. Nice job Drew and others. Mad respect to see actual former MAC V SOG members playing the game

  • @venivinivinci
    @venivinivinci 3 роки тому +39

    I remember as a grunt saw gunner pushing out on skt's with the snipers making 6 man teams and im sitting there reading sog books through my nods thats when my reality fully hit me and really gave me another perspective to the business of war and really helped me out with my planning and how I could influence those around me

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 3 роки тому +6

      Thats the SOG/ SF way - always learning from others DOL

  • @NicCageForPresident2024
    @NicCageForPresident2024 Рік тому +1

    You are so lucky to have been able to play with Vietnam veterans. This moment will be Priceless for the rest of your life I have so much respect for the Vietnam veterans my father fought in Vietnam 1968 to 1969 and I enlisted in the Army in 2005 I always wanted to be just like my dad

  • @foster7517
    @foster7517 3 роки тому +112

    i wish people would make more games like this that rely on teamwork instead of battle royal games

    • @aizawa6562
      @aizawa6562 3 роки тому +3

      If that was the case there would probably be 'camping' just like in real life fights and not a ton of kids just shooting out in the open lol

    • @DaveSmith-cp5kj
      @DaveSmith-cp5kj 2 роки тому +2

      PUBG is battle royale but there is a lot of teamwork involved even among randoms. You literally have to work as a team to get the chicken dinner consistently.

    • @TheONLYFeli0
      @TheONLYFeli0 2 роки тому +4

      Left 4 Dead and its sequel aren't realistic games, but they rely off teamwork. When they were making the game they learned "we learned from our earlier multi-player games that while many games require teamwork, few actually require it to succeed" or something like that

  • @tomlusk7873
    @tomlusk7873 3 роки тому +241

    I joined the United States Army at the height of the Vietnam War I even volunteered for Vietnam but the Army had other plans for me they didn't have too much use for tanks in Vietnam so I was sent to the 3rd Armored Division 1968 to 1971

    • @RicardoSanchez-es5wl
      @RicardoSanchez-es5wl 3 роки тому +37

      Blessings to you and your family and know we appreciate your service to this nation

    • @joemclenigan6026
      @joemclenigan6026 3 роки тому +8

      Welcome Home!

    • @chickenteriyakij.d5302
      @chickenteriyakij.d5302 3 роки тому +6

      I'm still there, I never came home.

    • @justineallandevelos6491
      @justineallandevelos6491 3 роки тому +2

      Oh cool a vet from General patton's infamous spearhead division is here

    • @Masked_SVincent
      @Masked_SVincent 3 роки тому +3

      @@RicardoSanchez-es5wl He volunteered for a pointless war, not exactly a hero nor a real service. just another pawn that was lucky enough to make it out.

  • @Cyber9Hound
    @Cyber9Hound 3 роки тому +119

    I'm going to be honest: this is the coolest fucking thing.

  • @tribal6597
    @tribal6597 3 роки тому +80

    This is so cool! Playing with real War vets!

  • @_Cuervo_
    @_Cuervo_ Рік тому +1

    My father was a Vietnam veteran, with the 101 Airborne Div. He passed away in 2015, with 77 years old in his country of birth, Spain. He hated war videogames and he always refused to watch me play them. I always will be proud of him.

  • @dudebro2638
    @dudebro2638 Рік тому +1

    My Uncle who was a vietnam vet just passed away a few months ago. This is like watching one of his stories.

  • @MistaMurk88
    @MistaMurk88 3 роки тому +24

    I'm glad I made the decision to get into ARMA, even though I don't have all the DLC and get that annoying ad type stuff showing up on my screen. It is still amazing. This had to be a one of a kind experience for you drewski, What an Honor!

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 3 роки тому +2

      DLCs are on sale this weekend - some have 70% off

  • @modernwheelchair1529
    @modernwheelchair1529 3 роки тому +21

    This is really cool, what an experience. I gotta admit just watching this puts a smile to my face and makes me happy we still have these guys around to be able to tell their stories and show just a glimpse of what it was like. I have alot of respect for them. Also glad this was captured and shown. Great video and great people. Thank you for sharing this and being apart of this.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for a great comment too!

    • @hughescrewchief836
      @hughescrewchief836 3 роки тому +2

      Ghostrider Don Here; Thank you your comment is is great. That is why us MACV-SOG vets got involved.

  • @saltytroopa6578
    @saltytroopa6578 3 роки тому +37

    Can't imagine being in that part of history and now playing it all over in a computer game of the 21 century.

  • @kellynolen498
    @kellynolen498 3 роки тому +38

    my grandpa was in the 75th infantry (airborne rangers)
    he got a silver,bronze and a purple heart and if the stories are true he would have gotten the highest honor if an commissioned officer was ever goddamn present
    his name was Paul Alfaro
    rip he died of covid (he was on dialysis already already dangerously sick)
    but I would be interesting to hear if anyone knows him my mom would love to hear stories from his division

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 2 роки тому +8

      If you google the unit you may find they have a facebook group or a reunion association- good luck and sorry for your loss!

    • @kellynolen498
      @kellynolen498 2 роки тому +7

      @@b-52eggbeast88 I'll check his papers thanks for the tip

    • @joshuafranklin9630
      @joshuafranklin9630 Рік тому +1

      75th Ranger Regiment* (Airborne, and Rangers are just different schools. There's nothing that impressive about being Airborne. Every other person I know in the Army is Airborne. A Ranger Tab, in a Ranger Regiment is more impressive.)

  • @akhaotic
    @akhaotic Рік тому +1

    this was sick to watch. my grandad was mac-v team 22 in the kon tum province and died in 1971. never got to meet him but have been able to hear stories from 3 different men who served with him thankfully.

  • @clifbradley
    @clifbradley 3 роки тому +93

    Hey Drew, if Arma wants to add a Special Forces A-team Mike force Mobile Strike Force for airboat operations in the Delta of Cao Lah, my step-father was MAC-V SOG and could provide details if they wanted to put a heavily armed airboat and a Mike Boat in the game.

    • @lanesilva9234
      @lanesilva9234 2 роки тому

      Do you know what unit your step-father was in?

  • @iankeli
    @iankeli 3 роки тому +17

    Absolutely loved watching the Gameplay, Strategy, and Experience of being in ARMA's The Suck 2.0 with the vets. Can't wait for more content.

  • @boredom2473
    @boredom2473 3 роки тому +9

    Had to go watch the video about these guys and all I can say is that they are incredible. It is insane that you got the chance to play with them. I find it humbling that they can share a piece of history through a way that will find more people than a book. These guys know that the best way to do it is to find something that resonates to the younger generation. Thank you for your service guys, and thanks for the vid Drew as its this is one of the best ones you have released.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 3 роки тому +2

      Mission complete! Thanks for your kind words

  • @matthewmorgan7056
    @matthewmorgan7056 3 роки тому +12

    My Dad served in Vietnam. He loved ARMA3. I so wish he could have seen this.

  • @xxixt4nkxixx
    @xxixt4nkxixx Рік тому +1

    Drew these are my favorite videos of yours! Reliving traumatic situations help is with ptsd and provide relief from war time memories. I NEVER comment on videos but just the intro hit me in the feels. Please do more of these!!!!

  • @immikeurnot
    @immikeurnot 3 роки тому +52

    I know a former SOG guy. Dude has a hilarious story about a bicycle.
    Had his mom send him a bell for said bicycle, which pissed off a lot of people, apparently.

  • @mattfleming86
    @mattfleming86 3 роки тому +12

    It was (a very enjoyable) honor to watch this. Absolutely amazing. Thanks Drewski for bringing this to us.

  • @alienoftheapocalypse2183
    @alienoftheapocalypse2183 3 роки тому +25

    Every now and then I watch ur channel, I have to say teaming up with some veterans and playing games like this add so much realism. Even I as a veteran am reliving moments. Keep this up its exciting.

  • @Ghostmonkey025
    @Ghostmonkey025 7 місяців тому +1

    Been working on the road for the past three months. Your Arma videos have kept me entertained. Can’t wait to get home to download this and start my journey. Keep up the work. Love your videos dude!

  • @wes11bravo
    @wes11bravo 3 роки тому +5

    Something I've noticed about these SOG guys is that even though time marches on, they're all still seeing the world through the eyes of the warrior kids they were back then. So many of them are eager and willing to share their stories and give advice. Like all true badasses, any ego beyond their quiet and resolute confidence simply doesn't exist. Tilt still has the same attitude he had as a smartass E4, still has that same mischievous smile. He was totally cool sharing some advice for my nephew as he gets ready for SFAS and even gave a shit about my service as an 11B Mech nobody to thank me for it. The fact that real SOG vets are taking this seriously and are being earnest about what's going on is yet another example of what amazing warriors they are.

  • @desertranger1095
    @desertranger1095 3 роки тому +25

    I gotta say I dident expect something like this to happen this is amazing.

  • @louisramirez8002
    @louisramirez8002 2 роки тому +7

    Bro as an Afghanistan war veteran I love to see this! You should do more videos with vets 🇺🇸 keep up the awesome content

  • @AmericanPatriotANomad
    @AmericanPatriotANomad 2 роки тому +10

    This actually a great experience as a a Veteran myself My a couple of my Drills were from the Vietnam War I salute past and future veterans

  • @jjsemperfi
    @jjsemperfi Рік тому +1

    Those Huey sounds. Wow, absolutely amazing sound design. Great video and I’m in awe of what those men did.

  • @schnitzelmandownbadfrfr3778
    @schnitzelmandownbadfrfr3778 Рік тому +2

    The fact that some ZF members where here makes this vid so much better

  • @OrganizedChaos396
    @OrganizedChaos396 3 роки тому +12

    Ok really though, General Bowra is a literal living legend in the SF community. Like, I grew up hearing the stories about this guy! I honestly can't believe you got him to play ARMA 3! This is so cool!

  • @theclassicliberal1915
    @theclassicliberal1915 3 роки тому +23

    Constantly evolving Drew. Stoked for you man.

  • @WarriorRed101
    @WarriorRed101 2 роки тому +4

    All I can say is that this video is amazing. Those vets seemed to have a great time. I bet it was an honor playing with them and wish I could have been there with you.

  • @DoobieKeebler
    @DoobieKeebler Рік тому +2

    A buddy whose no longer alive has a stepfather that faught in Vietnam. One of the wilder, personal Vietnam war stories I've heard in person.
    So he & his squad, or as a part of a larger plan, I can't remember, have been told they are going to take a hill that is completely wide open. They start making their way up, but about 3/4ths of the way up, they get ambushed with fire coming from three sides. They are over exposed, so they try to fall back to the brushline they came from, but the stepfather (call him Carl) takes a bullet to the back of the head & goes down. Someone comes back out for him, grabs Carl, and brings him back into cover. They stemmed the bleeding the best they could until they could get him to a field hospital. Where Carl stayed for a couple months, before the military sent him back out to fight again.

  • @Giitzerland
    @Giitzerland Рік тому +1

    That's a cool new type of experience for sure. I love how contrary to modern gaming it is, the realism requires a much different approach in attitude, and discipline. Great job men.

  • @ethanspaziani1070
    @ethanspaziani1070 3 роки тому +10

    This is blowing my mind I can't believe you actually got the real people there with you man that's crazy

  • @kobymoua8977
    @kobymoua8977 2 роки тому +9

    To know that these guys are old and playing games make me happy

  • @knarftrakiul3881
    @knarftrakiul3881 2 роки тому +6

    Wow...it's cool to hear these guys talk and plan while playing this game.. all these years and they would still be deadly

  • @buzzyb13
    @buzzyb13 9 місяців тому +1

    I realize this was a while ago now, but Drewski I just had to say that while I 100% understand why you deemed yourself a less important part of the element, I'd argue your level of game-sense and tactical mindset combined make you a fiercely strong part of said element. Love the respect and admiration you held for these legendary gentlemen, though; for that I cannot argue with you. 😂 Much love Drew, and a hearty thank you to these gentlemen for their service!!

  • @throngcleaver
    @throngcleaver 2 роки тому +2

    A buddy of mine joined the Air Force, and ended up in their spec ops group, but not MACV-SOG. Even though he fought in the jungles of Southeast Asia in '71 and '72, he never set foot in Vietnam. His unit was stationed at Ubon Royal Thai Air Force Base, and spent their jungle time in Laos and Cambodia. They would go in on Slicks, then hike several klicks to their AO, where they'd plant sensors along the Ho Chi Minh trail, and reconnoiter the AO. If they found caches of ammo, food, weapons, and other supplies, which they often did, they'd either set charges, if they had enough, or would sabotage it, and if it were something really big, they'd call in for an air strike on it. Of course, those were caches that weren't guarded. They would often RON, sometimes twice per mission, and would make their way back to a PZ for extraction.
    He was part of Recon Whiskey, a team of 6 guys. Once in a while, they'd take 6 to 10 "Yards" with them. (Montagnards are the largest ethnic minority group of people living in the mountains of Vietnam, and they hated the NVA and VC. He said they were fierce fighters, and excellent trackers, being the hillbillies of Vietnam.
    He wrote a book about his time over there, but never published it. It's a really good book, and I wish he'd publish it. After his time in country, they were sent to do missions in South America.
    Funny thing: While he was visiting, and I introduced him to ARMA 3 shortly after the game came out. I set him up to play a sniper scenario and he loved it. I bought him the game, once he got back to his home state, and a few months later, I asked him if he was still playing ARMA. He said, "No, I was doing fine, but then it starting bringing back a lot of old memories and nightmares and I couldn't sleep anymore, so I stopped using it." :(

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 2 роки тому +1

      Thats a great story thanks for sharing

    • @throngcleaver
      @throngcleaver 2 роки тому

      @@b-52eggbeast88 You're very welcome.

  • @JackBQuick79
    @JackBQuick79 2 роки тому +3

    Inspired to say thank you to all of those who put everything out there when the time came. All of you who did so, from the bottom of my heart thank you for the sacrifice you made then and for the burdens you may carry now.
    Secondly, i can really appreciate the quality of this game.

  • @klayman2
    @klayman2 3 роки тому +11

    My uncle on my dads side was a tank commander in vietnam, he's never spoke much about it, only showed us souvenirs he took with him.

  • @cameronmays5422
    @cameronmays5422 2 роки тому +4

    The part around the 1:37 mark is called an OPORD brief. In the military soldiers are briefed on their mission as well as every little detail that might affect it. You'll hear a lot that certain things are METT-TC dependant, which means that the variables change the mission. METT-TC is basically a huge acronym that breaks down the various factors that play into a mission

  • @9999bigb
    @9999bigb Рік тому +1

    I love how the vets don't talk, don't joke around, don't say a word unless they have to.

  • @tech-78
    @tech-78 2 роки тому +2

    Great video, and thanks to these men that served & are still here to be able to play this game with you.

  • @games68775
    @games68775 3 роки тому +14

    I wonder what the vets were feeling in such an immersive experience. This is the closest you can get without actually living it.

  • @bdaycaker
    @bdaycaker 3 роки тому +5

    Dude, I don't think I can express how cool this is to me that you got real Vets. It seems like something to never forget.

  • @lylewyant3356
    @lylewyant3356 3 роки тому +13

    I'm a Cold War Vet. No CIB. To play this with those who have been there done that, awesome. I think this would get me wired pretty tight.

    • @acrock21
      @acrock21 2 роки тому

      Thank you for yoyr service Sir!

    • @ironicrbx
      @ironicrbx 2 роки тому

      That's quite the achievement, If you dont mind me asking and are comfortable, You were CIA?

  • @NicCageForPresident2024
    @NicCageForPresident2024 Рік тому +1

    Damn dude I bet these guys had some major flashbacks. My father served in Vietnam in the 25th Infantry Division I followed in his footsteps and served in the Army going to Iraq 2005

  • @lightningstrike317
    @lightningstrike317 2 роки тому +1

    Good vid Drewski and to the guys who were there, glad you're home now and thank you. Thanks for the share and the memory of your friend and the VC soldier. lol He knew it was time to just back off. :)

  • @Byteable
    @Byteable 2 роки тому +7

    Xin Loi actually means sorry in Vietnamese, but the context how the veteran use it is absolutely hilarious 😂

    • @queuedjar4578
      @queuedjar4578 Рік тому +2

      In English you can also say Sorry with a "well, SORRY" sarcastic pseudo-fuck you connotation so i imagine that's what was intended.

  • @youngk4455
    @youngk4455 3 роки тому +13

    Played with a Vietnam veteran was such a cool experience even if you are just running supplies

  • @lamborgini86
    @lamborgini86 3 роки тому +8

    As much i would love to hear our vets stories at combat , i do respect them when they dont want to talk about it , i see them as someone with more knowledge than me

  • @DannyPepprs
    @DannyPepprs 2 роки тому +2

    Ive watched this whole thing , awesome is all can say , just awesome . hats off to the warriors , thank you for everything you did there . From a ole Navy (cold war)
    Vet

  • @isaac10231
    @isaac10231 2 роки тому +1

    I have 0 military experience, hell I've never even shot a gun, but for whatever reason I have a ton of friends who are in the military or other sorts of armed forces.
    Really cool video, thanks for uploading it.

  • @Shot_Gunner
    @Shot_Gunner 3 роки тому +11

    From a Marine veteran I salute you gentlemen for a job well done! 🇺🇸👍🏼

  • @kamraam1464
    @kamraam1464 3 роки тому +24

    Trying to imagine my vietnam-vet grandpa playing arma with me now

  • @jeckek9936
    @jeckek9936 3 роки тому +16

    What a time to be alive. Playing video games with todays spartans.

  • @irishgrizzly1762
    @irishgrizzly1762 2 роки тому +1

    I gotta say Drew, I served in the army infantry. Being 6ft5 I was pointman on every mission. This was an amazing video. Brought back memories. Served in Iraq theatre 03-04 injured Feb 04.

  • @servers5717
    @servers5717 2 роки тому +2

    When you mentioned the name ghost rider, it sent a flurry of chills down my spine, excellent work, excellent video, welcome home to the veterans, good, amazing soldiers who risked their lives for peace, even when america didn’t want war. RIP to all Fallen brothers lost in the Vietnam war.