How Much Does An Acoustic To Electronic Drumset Conversion Cost?
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- We all want that acoustic look, but how much does it cost? In this video I go over the different prices the conversion COULD cost if you buy certain components. It ranges anywhere from $1000 for a cheap conversion, to $2000 depending on the parts for a better conversion. If you already have an acoustic drumset/cymbals/module, you could do the whole conversion for about $300.
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I really dig your videos. There is some content I'd love to see though. One of them is a solid review on mesh heads and an informed opinion on their effect on drum bearing edges for those of us worried about our acoustic kits but also how well they work with different types of triggers. Another I feel you answered for the most part here but It would still be cool to see a video dedicated to this; a practical way to convert you acoustic drums that can easily be undone for example going electronic for home use and acoustic for live. Stay awesome man!
a great video, Justin! well worth watching to the end
thanks John :)
I am making one right now so thanks! Great video
glad you liked the video!
Great vid Justin, funny as hell at the end 😂 thanks for the laugh.
I think just like buying any edrum kit they need to go to the top end of their budget, or risk outgrowing what they have created. Get the best stuff you can afford to get the best result you can. The module is mostly where I would be looking for quality as the samples are what you will hear in the end.
haha thanks Peter, and I agree, go as far as you can with whatever budget you have
The Nfused kit looks very interesting, I wish I would have been able to buy a few years ago, now I guess will have to buy Pearl true track heads
Peavey made a few low end kits, but they also made some really nice stuff. I believe they came out with their radial thing before isolation mounting was widely used, but theirs had no lug hardware inside the shell.
I watch all your vids thanks for vids
Awesome vid!
thanks man :)
Thanks for all these videos. About to start on mine and I pretty much know how to do it from start to finish. I might throw up just a very simplified cover of things I did since i'm focused on a budget build for using DAW Vsti's so i plan to use dual modules that are cheaper but I've used them before to have dual three zone rides if I want while I expand down the line to more cymbals. I might start with single ply meshes with the spot in the center I saw Samus try out since I got neck issues it might help me out to have some more spring and see what I can do with disc issues in my neck/shoulders etc. Definitely the way to go before building a drum studio for the acoustic kit down the road (since i don't know how much i can drum to begin with as it is, i figure half an hour a day tho). Might go with the drumtech design with the triggers, the three point to avoid hot spots. The materials needed shouldn't make it too expensive since I'm building my own triggers.
I'm going ddt triggers into 2box, drumtec heads on a tama hyperdrive. still looking around for cymbals & a new snare since i got the slp studio maple lol.
Well said
Thank you so much
+Mike Mike Thanks for watching :)
my case its pretty simple , I have an Alesis dm7x and I just want the feel of an acoustic on my drumkit , so I already have the brain, cables and cymbals , I just want the kick , snare and toms !
Good day, I was looking into converting my acoustic kit, but it's expensive. I'm thinking about the Surge kit from Alesis. Do you like the Alesis module? Thanks.
find a cheap kit someone has in storage. I'm seeing this guy about a 5pc drum kit with a hihat and ride, hardware/stand for 150. full size. might be an 18 to 20 inch kick but that's fine for me, I'm not tuning it.
I Plan to run dual alesis heads like that down the road so i can have dual 3 zone rides (i like to have them stereo, different rides/samples but the effect in use can be awesome with some grooves) If I want a good 3 zone ride I have to spend as much as converting a kit so that's why I"m going all out on one, just step by step. Lemon makes a decent aftermarket ride up to 18 inches for 150... you might want to up your cymbals for being tiny compared to all of the toms/drums except the smallest tome of 8 inch.
I think that Lemon brand just rips off roland at fraction of the costs. Probably not as nice but I doubt anything worst than a hot spot which we use to at this point in the E Drum game.
Glad I went withe Alesis Strike Pro I was going to convert my acoustic kit over then decided it's easier and all set up and can get financing I think Sam ash or guitar center is offering 36 month. That's just $50 a month for the strike and the strike pro like $70 great video(s)
Hey I was thinking the same thing, that's why I mentioned it in the video. For some people it isn't worth the hassle.
I'm glad you made this video! I think I won't go the D.I.Y. route after watching this! LOL. I'll buy a used e-kit.
I'm glad I went the DIY route, but it's not for everyone.
So, I was going to get the Alesis command, BUT, I have an old Pearl set. The cymbols suck. I have an Roland sound canvas sound module. Is there a way to use a sound canvas? It does not have the normal trigger inputs for individual inputs, like on the Alesis D4 I used to have. I guess the Pintech stuff is suppose to be good?
Thanks
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Love the maverick merch 😂
There's also field, Asl , jobecky, and smart trigger make very expensive and quiet e cymbals that are 3 zone and real brass I made my own splash out of a knee brace and a cheap guitar center simmons trigger, I was taken back how easy a single zone cymbal trigger was to make and how real it felt I have the vh11 but I might buy the jobecky real feel high hat I just hope it triggers as well as the vh11
yeah a 1 zone pad is incredibly easy to make, it gets tricky when you go 2 and 3 zones
I converted my Mapex M Birch kit to Electronic TD30 Module with Roland CY13/15/12 cymbals VH11 Hihat with Controller and Roland RT30 Dual zone triggers all round....yes i did already have a TD30K kit lol
Got your message, great looking kit!
Hey Justin,
I want to convert an acoustic set to. I already own a crappy Fame DD6000, I bought it years ago for 600€ as midi controller for ezdrummer in my little homestudio. I already bought som 8“ mesh pads, but its still no fun to play so I want to convert a drumkit. I bought a used old schell set for 70€ and a td12 Modul for 400€. I want to use the jobeky 4 rod dual zone trigger for the snare and triggera trigger for the toms. I‘m still not sure what to do with the bass drum. DDrum Red Shot? Or maybe the Triggera Beater? What do you think? Talking about skins: I want to try out the Millenium QuiHead 2 Ply Mesh’s from Thomann. Did you already try them? About cymbals: I want to use the ones I‘ve got till I can afford better ones. My favorite would be the jobekey real feel HiHat and cymbals. I know that I will spend about 1500€ in the end, but I think there are some arguments on the plus side: I can upgrade things when I have the money, but I can start playing right now and In the end I have a full sized kit, I would not get that for 1500€ (I think 😉). And this kit will stay in my homestudio. I choose the TD12 because it has positional sensing and as far as I know should work fine with ezd or Superior Drummer. What do you think? Greets from Germany
Hello there, i am planning on doing an acoustic to electronic conversion project soon also and I was wondering if you could give me some advice/tips. I currently have a roland td9 w various brand cymbals from simmons, alesis, and roland and i was wondering what i could use for toms? I plan to use a 12 inch snare on a stand and keep my roland kd-9 so i was wondering how i could mount toms onto my rack. I currently already have the triggers (goedrum dual zone) and i plan on using shells from the ludwig accent jr kit. Do you know any shells that can mount directly onto l rods or do i have to buy separate mounts? Id like to know the cheapest way i could go upon this because i am doing this conversion on a budget. Thank you
I think you'll have to buy separate mounts for those acoustic toms.
i just recently bought a Alesis nitro and i find out about this... I regret not buying a Acoustic drum kit instead then convert it. Now i'll have to deal with selling the toms somehow and save up again for a acoustic Drum kit and mesh heads
Nice one, Justin. For my conversion, I spent around ... well, let's say ... too much 🙄😉
hahahha well you did a conversion in the best way possible :) the good stuff costs money
Mike, your video actually inspired me to take the leap. Starting from scratch, despite my TD-15K ( which I plan to sell whole or part out), with a set budget of about 3K. Justin hits most of the points I'm currently going through. The one exception is I decided on working cable management and that is driving me to get a 3 sided rack. Also, I'm not going the McGyver route. I plan to have this kit for some time and getting very good products.
Hi Kevin, thank you. Glad I could help you. And I highly agree, because I did actually the same. I absolutely understand that money IS an issue among musicians, that's the reason Justin's channel is so successful, because he really helps out. However, I always find it weird to see how cheap people go for electronic drums. Even drummers. I mean, we as drummers spend hundreds of dollars just for a splash cymbal (which, hands down, no one cares about except us, not even our band members). But when it comes to electronic drums, we believe having some crappy DIY-trigger or even worse hardware will do the job. This is something what really upsets me sometimes. The reason why still so many people think of electronic drums as "crap" or "not the real deal" is simply because they have crappy e-drums. Yes, I spent 250 bucks just for my snare drum trigger. But now I have zero issues with sensivity, response, hot spots or any other issues people too often claim about.
Speaking of cable management, you may check out v-drumtips here on UA-cam. This cannel is run by my and Justin's good friend Marcel, he recently released a neat video about cable management.
I've recently been researching how to convert my 6 piece pearl export into an e-kit and found that to do it properly (i.e. Mike Luke's way and also the Blackbird Custom Kit) would cost around $5,000 Australian. The kit setup im wanting to achieve is actually the same kit setup as the new Alesis strike pro kit that will be ready for shipping in Australia in July and is retailing for $3,600. So im now holding off on converting my Pearl export to see what the Alesis reviews are like. Im not willing to go down the cheap trigger/module route, which is why the cost of converting my existing kit will be quite high as I will only use quality parts. So thanks Mike Luke for your detailed videos, as well as 65 drums as i've learnt alot about A to E drum conversions since regaining an interest in drumming recently and stumbling upon your youtube channels :)
Will the td11 work well though? that module does not have seperate inputs for pads and cymbals.
I just mentioned it because its a baseline module that's not incredibly expensive. I personally would need to buy at least a TD25
I have a td4 lying around. Older but think it'll work? For a few months at least so I can save more for a different module. I'm gonna use Superior drummer anyways.
I know this is an old question but for others that stumble upon it. Yes it will work if your on a budget. I am using it on my conversion. It has enough inputs for your standard kit with three toms and using it's expansion port you could get three cymbals and hi-hats. With drum splitters you can add more things if needed. It can also use Roland's 3 zone ride.
Hey Justin,
nice Video - as always.
You mentioned that a conversion can cost from 1000$ to 3000$ ....
Thats ... you know ... thats just not ... i mean ... sometimes ... but still ... it's ... it's just not true ... you know ... i've bin there ... believe me ... the end is much much ... i have to say ... quite doubble ... i mean ... if you really try you can go all the way up to ... as high as heaven must be ...
;)
hahahahha! Yes I can't imagine what it must have cost to get that dream setup. I go budget alot of times in these videos because most drummers can't afford the highend stuff. But when everything lines up, incredible drumsets are possible :) I would say like yours, but you have a drumset on a entirely different level
Matthias Vogel please upload again
Mine cost 600 Pearl Travel kit Alesis dm10 drum red shot piezoelectric converter the cheap cymbals to trigger and 56 for cables have bass drum pedal.
It kills me you converted a sonor kit. I mean, it's a SONOR KIT i don't think they even make entry level kits do they? Hard to find the offset rocker style for an e kit too. I saw a used one for 300 but it's just out of my budget to bother, plus no snare, but damn, always the coolest set up in my opinion. Brings in those cymbal stacks and layers.
I actually did this for a lot cheaper by not buying a module. I bought a the DDTI Trigger Interface and use VST instruments. My iMac using Kontakt player and abbey road drums for £89. This works on any decent laptop also.
hey if that route works for you, great!
Have you any experience of alesis trigger io or the ddrum ddti?
nope, I like drum modules. This simplicity and how fast it is to just sit down and play
Fair point. I'm big into recording and production though so I guess that's the big difference for me.
I have a full decent electric kit (3 cy-12r cymbals and 3 pd-85 for Toms, and a pd-105 for snare) and all the drums for an acoustic set. All I need are heads and triggers. What would that be
That really depends on how mechanically inclined you are and if you can solder/ have a soldering iron thus being able to go the complete D.I.Y. route. You can buy all the mounting hardware to make your triggers at Lowe's/Homedepot, Walmart. Piezo's/jacks from Amazon. Not sure where to get the foam as I had access to scrap foam from work that just happened to be the right density.I bought eBridge triggers for my snare and bass drum and made my own for my toms. I got 3 of my heads from Prism drumheads bargin bin/seconds section for about half their normal cost. I still ended up with about $350 in heads and triggers. Problem is you don't know 'till you know when it comes to making triggers. Knowing what I know now I could probably have done triggers and heads for $$250. I'd say budget at least $450 if you're going to buy everything pre made. You might get out under $300 if you make it all yourself.
I have an alesis strike on order. But it would be cool to to play on real acoustic drums with conversions. What would be better, keep the strike or buy an acoustic kit on Craigslist and convert it. Maybe spending around 2000. Like what would trigger better, the strike or the converted acoustic kit using reasonable triggers, mesh heads, etc.
They would both trigger the same with the right hardware
Ok cool. If I went the conversion way and used ssd5 when it came out, mesh heads, and jobeky triggers, what module would u recommend that has positional sensing and variable hihat control? Or should I forget positional sensing and just use a td9? I will never use the internal sounds on a module.
Positional sensing isn't as important as you might think. And alot of drum VSTs don't even support it.
cool. Thanks bro.
Can you run drum software with the TD-3 module?
yes
Whats your opinion about Alesis Sample Rack?
I think they are a bit outdated, but that's just me
Drumtriggers getting tricky ;) 1:49
Do I have to use my module the same brand as my triggers?
nope
Can I use Alesis dm6 module?
0.48 windows update ?
What about the onheads? Those are great and extremely sensitive plus if shit goes sideways you can still take them off and play accoustic.
they are single zone. I love the way they feel, but i NEED the rim shot on a snare
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Are there companies that would convert your acoustic drum to e drum?
this may have already been brought up but what's your opinion on the pintech jaguar kits? for about $1300 you get a fully converted kit w/ cymbals all you need is a module.
looks like a solid value.
I think so. it's so hard to find a decent review though or any review for that matter on UA-cam. maybe a good idea for your future videos?
Well I'd have to buy one just to review it, so probably won't happen :/ Pintech doesn't send out review units
My first drum set was a Peavy.
why dont companys sell these kits already set up :/ all i want is a full size drum kit that i can change the sound of each individual drum to my own custom samples so it looks and plays like a real kit but does not make a huge noise. i dont want to build one from scratch theres just far too many steps and rules and configurations that can go wrong. i just want to buy one already made that works out the box
There are companies that sell sets like that: Jobeky, Drumtech, Field to name a few. ATV is coming out with one soon.
acoustic kit cost me $25 yes $25 for a Bop Kit.
Ddrum trigger red shot with cables $98.00 got a dual trigger for my snare. $60.
Remo mesh heads 5 pice set. $80-100.
so I got mine super cheap
what about the cymbals?
Yes, what about the cymbals and module?
5:00 lol
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The one i wan't to make can cost 34000 norwegian kroner
It's a bit less than 3400$
0:41 lol
The 2000 is the best of 10000 kits
This is why the Pearl e-kit bothers me. They mate the lowest end (forum/$699 or less) kit with basically simmons-level junk ($699 kit) electronics. Pearl charges $3500. HUH???
It's the shells. They are overcharging not only for the pads and module, but the pearl drumset that comes along with it.
Yes, as I stated. It's absurd to me to have a beginner kit, and poor electronics for a multiple of the cost of better shells and electronics. I can't even imagine buying them. To wit: I hate the rubber pads they use too. Poor response.
Yes it really doesn't make any sense.....But people are buying it because of the name and size.
damn that's expensive
it is, but you now have both an acoustic and electric kit without needing the space to store 2 separate kits. I can just swap the heads and the e-cycmbals, and I have my acoustic kit again.
that's very true
oh yeah $200 for an Alesis DM10
I use my brass symbols that I already had from my Pearl kit
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