Every Type Of Mesh Head: 1Ply VS 2Ply VS 3Ply Heads
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2018
- There's an ocean of different brands mesh drum-heads out there, but there are only 3 types: 1ply, 2ply, and 3ply. What are the differences between them? And which type of mesh heads are the best?
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I prefer 0 ply to be honest, they are so incredibly quiet its almost like they arent even there. The rebound is a bit mediocre compared to the other options but if you're looking for a way to play silently in an apartment or something you really cant beat it. Not to mention the things cost virtually nothing at all so they are great for beginners who arent sure if they want to dump a bunch of money into a kit.
Ok then.
Very good points ;)
Excellent video, as always! Very helpful!!
Hey Justin I like this video a little more than other types from the channel. Keep up the good work
Thanks Jacob!
Really in depth dude - love it!
Thanks Josh! I wanted to cram as much info as possible in this one
I got to give it to you Justin. These vids are just getting better and better. So professional, and the frequent uploads are amazing!! Keep it up mate
Thanks Thomas I really appreciate it! I can't do video this in-depth every week, but I'm really happy how this one turned out :)
Huge amount of great information in this video!
Thanks dude! I wanted to make a "super video" of all the info on mesh heads I could cram into one vid.
Great video! And good timing for me as I'm in the process of adding more mesh head pads to my TD11 kit. I currently have Pintech's 14" snare and 10" tom with the 1-ply Reaction heads. Have you tried those? I'm curious what your thoughts are about them.
Thanks... I have Billy Blast heads and have beat the crap out of them for 2 years and not a sign of wear at all.... Note: I only use nylon tip 5B.
Another cool video and very helpful
Thanks Drum Man :)
Justin the e man guru 👏
Great information 👍
Just getting back into drumming after a 30 year lay off. Have an analog set -gonna go with the Black Hole because of the ease of putting on and back to playing normally. The Black Hole does have more sound/tone-more realistic. I am buying pieces as I go-I have 2 L-80 Z Crash/Ride and a crash. But I think I will go with the cymbal mute going forward - I have that on the high hats Z-works great!! Great videos, thank you!
This is the most helpful video ever.
Hey Justin - Great video as usual. Have a question. I really like the feel of the Roland digital 14" snare pad and wondered what mesh pad would have a similar feel that I can put on a 10". I think Roland only sells it in a 14" head. Thanks!
Great video! What would you recommend for a massive sanctuary in a church where the reverb is just out of this world? I'm currently using their really archaic Yamaha electric kit that is super janky and the triggers are nearly dead or very delayed. I'd like to bring my gigging set and use L80s and some sort of mesh head for a tolerable acoustic sound. I'm not looking into triggering systems, I'm just interested in having it acoustic without using expensive iso booths. Acoustic treatment in the church is practically impossible. I can care less about feel, I just wonder about the tone. I've even tried using normal heads with Hot Rods and playing very low, but that doesn't really work for this church setting. I thought about the idea of close micing silent stoke heads but that's going to be annoying to set up every Sunday before the service. What are your thoughts?
I use Prism 3 ply and they feel pretty good.
Hey Justin great vid! I have a question. Of the heads besides DrumTec, as they aren’t easily accessed, which, IYO is best feel for kick? For snare? For toms?
1 ply remo silent stroke for the resonant head and either Drum tec Design series 2 ply or the Roland / Remo Power ply for the Top is the best balance between ambient volume and rebound with amazing triggering results.
I haven't had a chance to play the design series, but I've heard good things about it
FYI to drummers converting Acoustic to Electric.... my experience with drum triggers.... I didn't find that the thicker multiple mesh heads worked well with shell mounted "Helesson" triggers. I found the single ply pearl heads to work best with those triggers.
I know Jason uses center head triggers on his snare and bass, and historically Jobecki shell triggers on his toms
I have observed others who used multiple mesh heads (Jobeki) with Jobecki shell mounted triggers.
I have observed others complain that Jobecki triggers were "Too Hot" when used with Roland controllers.
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Therefore, I would think mesh head thickness to trigger is not a linear comparison. Its relative to trigger manufacturer and trigger mount location. Jobecki does not provide a potentiometer for its piezo like helensson does, therefore the only way to reduce a hot trigger issue with Jobeki might be to deploy thicker mesh heads. They use potentiometers to trim magnetically induced voltage on electric guitars, it might make good sense therefore that the same could be accomplished by impact induced voltage occurring from a piezo.
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As an example.....
My bass setup was the most difficult, Its comprised of a Remo silent stroke and a Pentech trigger. I had to move the trigger 3 times in order to get the desired sound. I used a wooden block (hardwood) with an elevator bolt to attach the trigger (provided height adjustment) the best trigger location for that setup was about 25mm to 40mm away from the center of the drum head. The setup uses a very dense piece of foam mounted between the piezo and the drum head. The piezo is mounted upon the large, flat end of the elevator bold.
Hey Justin - great vid as always. I just bought the Roland TD27KV kit and wondered if there is anywhere I can buy a replacement 3-ply 14" head for the snare when mine wears down? I only found the 14" in the 2 ply designed for the kick. Thanks!
Great informative video. FOR BASS DRUM HEADs... I am converting a kit with 24" kick drum. Do you know of any brand that has a more "solid" feel than "bouncy" that comes in this size, like you mentioned around 11:00 of this video?
Do you have any recommendations for a 14” mesh kick drum head?
Have you ever dried the dFd (Drum Factory Direct) mesh heads? They're super cheap and I'm really interested in them.
Hey Justin, just ordered the 3 ply extreme drums new acousta-mesh 14” for the snare….will see how they are.
Were there heads under the shell too ?
If yes, were they accoustic reso heads or the same as the top ones you tried ?
(Silent stroke up - Silent Stroke Down) ?
Would stuffing a drum (with a one ply mesh head) with pillows, blankets, etc., make external triggers have better trigger results (straight out of the package with no module adjustments)?
Hello 65 Drums, you mentioned a difference between 1 ply Drum-Tec mesh head and Remo silent stroke, which one do you prefer ?
thanks
Hey Justin, thanks for this review, very good as always. Have you had a chance to try SpareDrum or 682Drums mesh heads? What's feel on these two options?
I'm looking for a mesh head that has the least amount of bounce and i can still mic it up to control volume .
Hey Justin, how about Prism mesh heads? I just picked up a set of "blemished" white 3 ply for my td-15 setup, and I'm enjoying them so far, compared to the Roland heads. It seems they're similar to the Real Feel heads, but available in the U.S., so save on some shipping costs.
I have a comment only about Billy Blast heads. I don't question there quality or volume of stick hits, but I've owned two of his drum heads, and the 12", 3-ply, "snare" head doesn't seem to sit "down" on the shell, which makes the rim sit higher up from the head (it fits the shell but there isn't the beveled edge that comes on most acoustic (or Roland ) heads . Yes, I did adapt, but it is still odd to me.
Got a link to roland heads for acoustic drums? Cant find any. Thanks!
Hi, how would you compare the triggering sensitivity from a Goedrum 1 thick ply to a Drum-tec Real Feel? Which one do you think causes less mistriggering? I'm interested in Goedrum mainly for feeling, and then also for price because RF's cost more than double, but I would like to know if it will trigger well. Thanks.
I was thinking of the 3 ply drum tec real feel head on the snare ( i own it and it feels pretty similar to a snare) and 2 ply mesh heads on the toms, because toms should have more rebound naturally no? the 3 ply real feel mesh heads on the toms feel too much like snares
To be quite honest, i didn't really notice a difference in the bounce after switching to the remo silentstroke from normal drum heads. Maybe I just suck! haha
Hart dynamics, I have the opportunity to buy a used 13 inch snare. Think it’s comparable to a Roland 125? Need to upgrade my crimson snare ASAP
Do you thinking about update? I miss Rtom LV!
Hi mate ,
Just bought some from Australia call Rech Chaos low volume drumheads from Rech Cymbals AU.
They have 1 or 2 ply .
I got 2 ply and 1 week later the bass drum ply 1 ripped so I'm left with a 1 ply bass drum.
I guess they need flam patches.
They feel great sound good .Do patches stick on mesh basdrums ?
Question, I bought some drums and thought about selling them and go for roto toms and a drummodule. But now i want to convert an acoustic kit into a digital drumkit with mesh heads. When talking about de toms which have 2 heads (top and bottom) do use on the bottom also a mesh head or leave it open?
Good video Justin
Thanks dude!
I see Roland has a 14" head, but the description says it's a replacement head for a bass drum. Do you think that will work for a 14" acoustic snare conversion? I'd like to keep the look consistent with my TD-25 kit, so I'd prefer to stay with a Roland mesh head.
try add a falam slam bass drum dot to either the top or inside of the head
Anyone having problems with Silentstroke heads pulling out of the ring? I had 2 brand new ones do this. I tightened the head evenly and the lugs started working loose so I re-tightened and then the mesh pulled out of the ring. Thanks.
Hey Justin, great video as always. When can we expect a new "Viewers kit" video? Greetings from cold Belgrade
I'm still waiting on some drummers to submit the playing footage. Everyone is fast to give me photos, but the second I ask for a 5 minute playing clip, they just don't get around to it
Maybe they're ashamed, because you're a great drummer :) Your doubles on kick drum are awesome!
Could you review lv mesh heads black hole
Great video, but I have to say there are huge differences between the drum-etc 2 ply and a Roland 2 ply. The drum-etc 2 ply feels better than a Jobeky 3 ply for example.
What do you think of the new evans mesh heads?
Hey Justin I know I’m super late watching this video but I gotta question for you: I have a pintech Phoenix kit and the 20 inch bass drum that’s acoustic electric and has a single ply head I believe and it triggers terrible, I constantly get double triggering especially dying double bass runs or “galloping” (patterns of three that are 8th note triplets basically) and it always double triggers to groups of four or five when I only hit it three times, it sometimes does this during double strokes (slide technique) and for every two I get three hit, how do I get rid of it? I’ve done everything in the Roland td-12 I can in the way of trigger settings as well as moved the trigger back and forth on the head and moved the center foam pad back and forth till I got it close but still double triggers bad. I’m not necessarily worried about sound, just triggering, would a two play head be better or should I go three ply or would the real feel from drum tech be better for triggering? Everybody feel free to throw suggestions, this is my first electronic acoustic drumset I paid a ton of money for it and just want the d**n bass drum working properly, whatcha got for me?
Never heard of the "prism". I was waiting got UFO review. I bought the set of silent strokes. VERY loud.
im getting to where i like roland the most but i think i may prefer a different brand for each drum. this will allow me to play the drum without hooking it up and have somewhat of a good sound or at least more matching of drum charts than when every hit sounds the same
I've noticed that my favorite mesh head changes all the time :)
HI Justin /Public- Looking for a Kick drum patch that will stick to a mesh kick drum head . Anything you can recommend?
I have a roland kd220 kick drum and I want to put a 22 inch mesh head in front to dampen the sound. What would be the quietest head? I know there will still be some noise.
Why can't I find Alesis Strike black mesh heads anywhere on line?
Any way of increasing the volume on Ddrum bass and snare triggers? Or do I have to just turn everything else down? I have them at 100% volume on my Roland TD-15 and they’re too quiet.
I remember my very first edrum kit was a 1 ply Mylar head, everyone called my drums cocoanuts cause of how loud they are
Yeah they are incredibly loud :/
65 Drums yeah, I'm glad I finally have all mesh pads, can practically play whenever and no one complains
Can you get these other brand of mesh for pdx-8s?.. I havent opened my pdx-8s yet but I think I have the newer version that seems to be one pc with the plastic ring?
The pearl heads make great bottom heads cause they're cheap to buy,for top heads i like the roland the best followed by the remo silent strokes.
I agree, 1ply heads are great to use as a resonant head :)
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What is the name of the Roland 3ply mesh head? You never mentioned it.
Great review but no Pintechs?
nope, no pintechs
It is what it is man. I need to go with 682drums for there conversion kit for obvious reasons. But as for mesh heads. I'll start with there's then go from there. Out of all the reviews on conversion kits for Alesis. 682drums just looked like the best option. One huge question. I bought the Griffin double kick pedals on eBay. I'm not show if it was because I had no experience or its because of the Alesis real head being more like a brick wall then a kick drum. The entire pedal kept getting loose. Is this because of how stiff Alesis real heads are? I tightened the parts . EVERYWHERE and put duck tape on the left side. Those screws would get loose and then it was horrible. The tape stopped the problem. Would a mesh conversion eliminate the problem?
That's a tough problem. Have you tried thredlocker? There's a version of it that stops screw from moving that isn't permanent. might help
Good video. Do you have a brand(preferably 2ply) that is made in U.S.A.? I ask for shipping reasons. Thanks man!
Roland Power Ply
Have you tried the UFO drum mesh heads yet?
The ufo head has been a fantastic replacement for my roland pd-85
Hi justin,would you need to adjust when changing from edrum to adrum?
That a tough question. It just depends on each drum what you'll need to adjust
I'm suffering with my new PDX-100 and it's damn HOT SPOTTING!!! HELP!
td-9
I made a video on that ;)
What mesh heads sound the best acoustically?
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?나?는누?구?? What’s so funny troll
What would you use the acoustic sound for?
@@PEP. band practice/writing setup
Not looking for the best tone. Just to be able to jam and practice at all hours of the day or night.
@@nofriendtojesus oh ok!
Hi Justin - Great vid. I know this is from a year ago but I was wondering if you know if I can order the Roland 3 ply head? All the heads from Roland I've seen on-line are only the MH-2, 2 ply head. I called Roland and the rep told me all the new Roland heads are 3 ply ( he said "It's my understanding"), but all the websites say they are 2 ply. I would think you would be able to buy it if you needed to replace the head on their 14" snare. I just really like the feel and would like to use it on my snare with a trigger. Thanks!
From what I've heard only td50 snare has the 3ply head on it. I hope they switch over all the drums to that though, would be awesome
@@65Drums Ok thanks!
i found a 4ply i forgot the name but it was some carlsbro 6 something
Hey, Justin Love the info! Looking to buy some new drum heads. I was wondering what you think (and if you got a chance to finish your review) about the 2 ply Prism drum heads?
It's my next video :)
Good video but why don’t people use polyester tipped sticks on heads that clip
Hey there. Thanks for this review! Could you also do a comparison between roland or yamaha rubber pads and mesh heads please? I wonder how they differ especially at bass drum. I'm thinking of upgrading my dtx530 so I have to know the noise level differences.
I need 4 ply, 4 ply, 4 ply, when I cry.
If anybody is watching from germany/europe, thomann has two plys from their own brand. (Millenium) And they are cheap af! Because i did the failure to by a silent stroke for my kick but it somehow works. ^^
Thanks for mentioning them! I will probably never get to play them because I'm in the USA but there are alot of drummers that watch from Europe, this is useful :)
65 Drums usually thomann also ships to US, but the shipping cost will be pretty expensive. like you said in a video before, you have many european viewers... so I just thought I bring that one up.
And thanks for your cool videos man! :)
Your the reason why I really enjoy playing my e drums way more than before. I'm transforming my drum set now to.
Sorry for the long text. Oo
Greets from germany. \m/
I got 3 ply prism. Far superior to the rest in every qualitative way. I'm never going back.
Hey Justin I'm thinking about getting the new Alesis Surge kit when it comes out. Do you think that is an1-ply or 2-ply kit?
Every alesis drumset I've played had 2ply heads, so that's what I think the Surge will have
65 Drums Thanks. That's good to hear
is that a different intro i see?
Yes it is :)
I'm starting to feel like I'm in your basement personal
Welcome to my house haha :)