Hi everyone! I only just found this forum ,to my amazement lots of Cream-fans around!Nov'68,late afternoon,'WHITE ROOM' on the radio,13 year-old boy got hooked instantly.The fascination has been lasting for 56 years and is still going ever so strong,timeless! Anyone wishing to share their Cream-moments is more than welcome to contact me. Looking forward, Thomas
Same age here,heard 'WHITE ROOM' in Nov '68,changed my life,Cream never lost me,to this day.Always thought it to be sort of a musical infight between the three of them on stage,hence the different versions.Never tiring,though.
I was there that night with a tiny reel to reel under my jacket and a mic on a stick. I recorded the set and ran out of tape during Spoonful. This is a soundboard recording. I did not realize what an impeccable Spoonful the band had delivered that night. This is beautiful.
Fiery, powerful, great sound, amazing bass! And Jimi, Mitch Mitchell, George Harrison in the front row coming out of their seats cheering several times that night. Glad I saw them Nov 3 68in Baltimore. Thanks for posting.
Jimi really dug Cream. What I would give to hear a recording of the gig in London when Jimi sat in. I believe they played Killing Floor. A piece of legendary musical history lost in the mist of time.
Saw Mitch taking Ginger's place at the kit,with Jack's "Friends" band, along with the incredible Larry Coryell on his Super 400, and, Mike Mandel ,from 11th House on keyboards . in Feb. 70.They played all Cream favorites , and a superb live "We're Going wrong"-everything , to a tee.Really astonishing, how well they meshed ,
Wow, I was there and clearly remember what happened at around 9:30 of this recording. Some guy came out, grabbed a mic, and told people to sit down, yelling, "We want to hear the Cream play". It was unbelievable. Totally intruded on the music. I'm surprised Cream didn't just shut it down right then and there. This is the first time I've heard this since that night in 1968.
Amazing! But what was people doing? Jumping out of pure excitement?... Was not something unusual... Or was it too much that night?... I believe Spoonful is not the right song to jump (like "Cocaine" 🤔😄
Alas my favourite all time band, too young to go see them in 68, I was 13 years old, The first time listening was when I realized guitar bass and drums were Artist's instruments! Am loving the knowledge bass of Stinkbone and Blackscorpion below!
I was there, had no ticket walk up to the window as they where shutting down asking "Do you have any tickets left" she said NO ! But said wait said heres one on VIP hold. It was front row center. Took Linda Tussy. The best 18th birthday ever. Anyone that has film or pictures video or anything that show the front row .... contact me.
Agree - pretty good live audio here on this version. Easily one of my favorite songs performed live from Cream. My understanding is Cream performed another (different) live version of 'Spoonful' that was recorded on their 'Wheels of Fire' album (3rd) - track #2 side 3 of the double LP or track #2 on disc 2 of the 'Deluxe' CD. 'Spoonful' on those recordings was taken from March 10, 1968 at Winterland, San Francisco, CA (1st show). The duration is 16min 47sec. Slightly longer than the original from Willie Dixon at around 5min...
I believe Jack said once that Cream wanted to, without having a big head about it, take the blues somewhere else. I think we would be remiss if we didn't recognize the contribution that psychedelics made to Cream's evolution. Clearly, LSD was at play here.
@@jefftateii9403 Well...who's to say there may have even been a slight bit of a cocktail goin on...I mean while the statement; 'it doesn't pay to mix your drinks' may have some truth to it, 'substances' ingested in various means have been known to allow the mind to expand a little so that musicians, artists, literary writers, can create away...ain't nuthin' like a bit of acid in ones coffee in the morning to sharpen up the pencil for the day I would have thought. My wish has always and will always remain that I turned 20 in the mid '60s. To be peaking in that era...oh wow...even thinking about it gets the juices flowin'. Imagine attending the Monterey Pop Festival in '67 AND Woodstock in '69...and experiencing 'The British Invasion'...or cruising along America's best beach surfing spots in the '60s and attending iconic concerts from The Allman Brothers, Bob Dylan, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Jimi Hendrix, The Doors, The Doobie Brothers, the Rolling Stones, Janis Joplin, Jefferson Airplane, and The Beach Boys to name a mere few. Cruise Route 66 in a 1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 - coast to coast...
@@glenngreatrex936 LOL! Er...guessing you were a hard player man...didn't believe in subtlety then...half-ass approach not your scene bro. Gonna do it, then do it once and do it properly for fux sake breed. My kinda guy. You're not a Scorpio by any chance? Play for keeps m8.
Along about the 9:15 mark of the chronometer I was hoping that Jack was going to play eight measures of the Count Basie "inspired" Midgets like he did in the case of The Spoonful rendition he played live at the Fillmore
This photo is from their soundcheck at the Royal Albert Hall on November 26, 1968, not the LA Forum. This gives the erroneous impression that EC was using his 335 which in reality, he did *not* use with Cream until their last RAH farewell show on November 26. 1968. EC used his Gibson Firebird during the actual LA Forum gig on October 19, recorded live for the Goodbye Cream LP. On the 18th, he also used his Firebird but carried his Les Paul standard as a backup. EC used both his Firebird and Les Paul throughout the US Farewell tour of the fall of 68. During the earlier Disraeli Gears tour of February 68 through June 68, Clapton primarily used his painted SG (Fool) with a few back up Les Pauls and eventually switched to the Firebird toward the end of the tour (he actually purchased it in during their late April shows in Philadelphia at 8th Street Music.
@Your Momma Yep, it IS the RAH show:-) Outside of the rehearsal & soundcheck photos that show EC with a black jacket and his new ES-335, they did TWO sets: for the first, EC wore a light jacket and mostly played his Gibson Firebird. For the second show, the one mostly used for the badly edited BBC movie "Farewell Cream at the RAH" EC wore the red shirt and played his "NEWLY PROCURED" Gibson ES-335 contrary to the endless disinformation that it was his main guitar he had since the Yardbirds....not true. As the renowned Gibson guitar expert, Tony Bacon, discovered and proved by comparing records of serial numbers, the ES-335 used at RAH (called the Albert Hall 335), was purchased in mid-November 68 at London's Selmer Music. The salesman, Jerry Donahue, clearly remembered selling the 335 to Clapton, something a salesman would *not* forget, and even recalled how Eric offered him tickets to the RAH show (which was about two weeks away) but Donahue already had tickets. He recounted to Bacon how "proud I was to watch Clapton use that 335 during the show" which was the second set. Unfortunately, the perpetuated myth regarding the ES-335 continues although I have assisted in correcting the record on multiple sites, & books or website often use photos from the RAH farewell concert showing EC on the 335 or they'll mix in the rehearsal/soundcheck photos with EC wearing the black jacket with the 335 to create the false impression EC used the 335 during other Cream performances....nope!, those photos are *always* take from the RAH farewell shows. I have HUNDREDS of photos literally documenting Cream's entire Farewell Tour of the fall of 1968 & except for one image, alleged to be from October 20, 68 at the LA Forum, showing EC on an ES-355, the Mercedes of the ES line, meaning unlike the 335, the 355 had gold hardware, an ebony fingerboard and the fancy custom inlays on the headstock (I own one myself). He apparently was either borrowing that model or purchased it in the US to take back to England. Either way, every other photo I have from *ever* known venue Cream played during that final tour, Clapton is either playing his Firebird or one of two Les Paul standards. A famous photo of Cream backstage before their NY Madison Square Garden show reveals Clapton walking through the tunnel carrying BOTH his Firebird and Les Paul. As one who saw Cream in person back in April 68, during their incendiary Disraeli Gears Tour, Eric's main ax throughout 90% of that tour was his historic, Gibson SG, "Fool" guitar estimated to be a 64 model. Clapton bought his Firebird during their shows at the Electric Factory (when I saw Cream) on April 20th at Philly's 8th Street Music. When saw Cream on April 19, EC used his iconic SG (which created his greatest overall Cream tone as heard on Wheels of Fire Winterland recordings) through a dual Marshall stack except, at the Factory, one Marshall head was out for repair and EC drove the second stack with a Fender Showman head but he was full blast volume and as I've recounted ad nauseam, that show was a watershed event for me and the guitar players I was with, EC was in virtuosic mode that night (Cream had its first week off in a long time due to rescheduling the Philly shows from the original early April dates) & he soared, his guitar literally created sonic euphoria:-) When he hit high register riffs, it crawled up your spine, literally pushing us back like G forces. Imagine hearing the Crossroads recording at 100 times the volume....no live Cream recording has ever captured what it sounded like hearing his SG through a dual-stack from 15 feet away, sonic bliss!:-)
Hey Mike. I didn’t mean pedal as in foot pedal, sorry for the confusion. I meant a note played on an open string of Jack’s bass. As that note rings out, he is playing other melodic notes at the same time.
No problem my friend. I believe the term pedal note usually refers to an organ anyway, but Jack is using the same idea. Some cool examples of Jack using this are at 5:53 to 6:16, 6:36 to 6:53 and 7:46 to 8:09.
@@monty70 very interesting! Thank you! I just had the privilege of listening to this fully on 3 grams of dried penis envy mushrooms lol it was life changing, chills and smiles just thinking of it. Best band ever bar none. Especially on psychedelics. Cheers and happy new year!
I think I'll go ahead and say it first I was there that night on the floor with my girlfriend Connie and my best friend drummer with his girlfriend Vivian deep purple opened wow what an opening opening wow and then cream comes on and Eric Clapton was creative as can be in Jack Bruce could eat that bass and Ginger Baker was phenomenal so anyway enjoy guys I'm hoping I will come up with her a video of it it was packed. Paul McCartney George Harrison and Ringo Starr were front row gas with their wives and Paul was busy he just got married anyway I'll stop cream you're the best
Love this song; RIP Jack and Ginger.
Hi everyone!
I only just found this forum ,to my amazement lots of Cream-fans around!Nov'68,late afternoon,'WHITE ROOM' on the radio,13 year-old boy got hooked instantly.The fascination has been lasting for 56 years and is still going ever so strong,timeless! Anyone wishing to share their Cream-moments is more than welcome to contact me.
Looking forward, Thomas
Just amazing - Oh how I loved Cream and Jack's amazing voice! So sad two are no longer with us. RIP Jack and Ginger - never forgotten.
I'm 69 that's one of the best versions I've heard yet,and I've heard a few.
Bought Wheels of Fire LP in 1969. Never been the same since.
Same age here,heard 'WHITE ROOM' in Nov '68,changed my life,Cream never lost me,to this day.Always thought it to be sort of a musical infight between the three of them on stage,hence the different versions.Never tiring,though.
I was there that night with a tiny reel to reel under my jacket and a mic on a stick. I recorded the set and ran out of tape during Spoonful. This is a soundboard recording. I did not realize what an impeccable Spoonful the band had delivered that night. This is beautiful.
Incredible sound from the past (1968).👍🎸🎶☮️💪
Baker is such a beast.
Fiery, powerful, great sound, amazing bass! And Jimi, Mitch Mitchell, George Harrison in the front row coming out of their seats cheering several times that night. Glad I saw them Nov 3 68in Baltimore. Thanks for posting.
Jimi really dug Cream. What I would give to hear a recording of the gig in London when Jimi sat in. I believe they played Killing Floor. A piece of legendary musical history lost in the mist of time.
Saw Mitch taking Ginger's place at the kit,with Jack's "Friends" band, along with the incredible Larry Coryell on his Super 400, and, Mike Mandel ,from 11th House on keyboards . in Feb. 70.They played all Cream favorites , and a superb live "We're Going wrong"-everything , to a tee.Really astonishing, how well they meshed ,
@@jefftateii9403 me too. But I am afraid there is no such recording... Not even a photo of the most memorable jam ever
wow...
Saw them in orange bowl good by tour I was 14 now I'm 71 jack was the 1 to listen to 😅
Wow, I was there and clearly remember what happened at around 9:30 of this recording. Some guy came out, grabbed a mic, and told people to sit down, yelling, "We want to hear the Cream play". It was unbelievable. Totally intruded on the music. I'm surprised Cream didn't just shut it down right then and there. This is the first time I've heard this since that night in 1968.
Amazing! But what was people doing? Jumping out of pure excitement?... Was not something unusual... Or was it too much that night?... I believe Spoonful is not the right song to jump (like "Cocaine" 🤔😄
Alas my favourite all time band, too young to go see them in 68, I was 13 years old, The first time listening was when I realized guitar bass and drums were Artist's instruments! Am loving the knowledge bass of Stinkbone and Blackscorpion below!
I was 14. Saw them both nights
was there
So now we understand why this version was never considered for commercial release. Still great version!
The early years of heavy metal.... Great band!!!!
people think that heavy metal l is better than this....... jajaja HM sucks ....
@@jabu003as someone who indulges in HM..I agree, the heaviness got watered down, is missing a few elements that psychedelic heaviness HAD.
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I was there, had no ticket walk up to the window as they where shutting down asking "Do you have any tickets left" she said NO ! But said wait said heres one on VIP hold. It was front row center. Took Linda Tussy. The best 18th birthday ever. Anyone that has film or pictures video or anything that show the front row .... contact me.
Agree - pretty good live audio here on this version. Easily one of my favorite songs performed live from Cream. My understanding is Cream performed another (different) live version of 'Spoonful' that was recorded on their 'Wheels of Fire' album (3rd) - track #2 side 3 of the double LP or track #2 on disc 2 of the 'Deluxe' CD. 'Spoonful' on those recordings was taken from March 10, 1968 at Winterland, San Francisco, CA (1st show). The duration is 16min 47sec. Slightly longer than the original from Willie Dixon at around 5min...
I believe Jack said once that Cream wanted to, without having a big head about it, take the blues somewhere else. I think we would be remiss if we didn't recognize the contribution that psychedelics made to Cream's evolution. Clearly, LSD was at play here.
@@jefftateii9403 Well...who's to say there may have even been a slight bit of a cocktail goin on...I mean while the statement; 'it doesn't pay to mix your drinks' may have some truth to it, 'substances' ingested in various means have been known to allow the mind to expand a little so that musicians, artists, literary writers, can create away...ain't nuthin' like a bit of acid in ones coffee in the morning to sharpen up the pencil for the day I would have thought. My wish has always and will always remain that I turned 20 in the mid '60s. To be peaking in that era...oh wow...even thinking about it gets the juices flowin'. Imagine attending the Monterey Pop Festival in '67 AND Woodstock in '69...and experiencing 'The British Invasion'...or cruising along America's best beach surfing spots in the '60s and attending iconic concerts from The Allman Brothers, Bob Dylan, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Jimi Hendrix, The Doors, The Doobie Brothers, the Rolling Stones, Janis Joplin, Jefferson Airplane, and The Beach Boys to name a mere few. Cruise Route 66 in a 1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 - coast to coast...
@@Blackscorpion1963 Well said.
@@Blackscorpion1963 we used to dilute our cocaine with liquid L-25 and boink it in our necks. Talk about kaleidoscope eyes!!
@@glenngreatrex936 LOL! Er...guessing you were a hard player man...didn't believe in subtlety then...half-ass approach not your scene bro. Gonna do it, then do it once and do it properly for fux sake breed. My kinda guy. You're not a Scorpio by any chance? Play for keeps m8.
Along about the 9:15 mark of the chronometer I was hoping that Jack was going to play eight measures of the Count Basie "inspired" Midgets like he did in the case of The Spoonful rendition he played live at the Fillmore
R I P !
MUCH OBLIGED!!!! Mr. or Mrs.
This photo is from their soundcheck at the Royal Albert Hall on November 26, 1968, not the LA Forum. This gives the erroneous impression that EC was using his 335 which in reality, he did *not* use with Cream until their last RAH farewell show on November 26. 1968. EC used his Gibson Firebird during the actual LA Forum gig on October 19, recorded live for the Goodbye Cream LP. On the 18th, he also used his Firebird but carried his Les Paul standard as a backup. EC used both his Firebird and Les Paul throughout the US Farewell tour of the fall of 68. During the earlier Disraeli Gears tour of February 68 through June 68, Clapton primarily used his painted SG (Fool) with a few back up Les Pauls and eventually switched to the Firebird toward the end of the tour (he actually purchased it in during their late April shows in Philadelphia at 8th Street Music.
Beautiful.
@Your Momma Yep, it IS the RAH show:-) Outside of the rehearsal & soundcheck photos that show EC with a black jacket and his new ES-335, they did TWO sets: for the first, EC wore a light jacket and mostly played his Gibson Firebird. For the second show, the one mostly used for the badly edited BBC movie "Farewell Cream at the RAH" EC wore the red shirt and played his "NEWLY PROCURED" Gibson ES-335 contrary to the endless disinformation that it was his main guitar he had since the Yardbirds....not true. As the renowned Gibson guitar expert, Tony Bacon, discovered and proved by comparing records of serial numbers, the ES-335 used at RAH (called the Albert Hall 335), was purchased in mid-November 68 at London's Selmer Music. The salesman, Jerry Donahue, clearly remembered selling the 335 to Clapton, something a salesman would *not* forget, and even recalled how Eric offered him tickets to the RAH show (which was about two weeks away) but Donahue already had tickets. He recounted to Bacon how "proud I was to watch Clapton use that 335 during the show" which was the second set.
Unfortunately, the perpetuated myth regarding the ES-335 continues although I have assisted in correcting the record on multiple sites, & books or website often use photos from the RAH farewell concert showing EC on the 335 or they'll mix in the rehearsal/soundcheck photos with EC wearing the black jacket with the 335 to create the false impression EC used the 335 during other Cream performances....nope!, those photos are *always* take from the RAH farewell shows. I have HUNDREDS of photos literally documenting Cream's entire Farewell Tour of the fall of 1968 & except for one image, alleged to be from October 20, 68 at the LA Forum, showing EC on an ES-355, the Mercedes of the ES line, meaning unlike the 335, the 355 had gold hardware, an ebony fingerboard and the fancy custom inlays on the headstock (I own one myself). He apparently was either borrowing that model or purchased it in the US to take back to England. Either way, every other photo I have from *ever* known venue Cream played during that final tour, Clapton is either playing his Firebird or one of two Les Paul standards.
A famous photo of Cream backstage before their NY Madison Square Garden show reveals Clapton walking through the tunnel carrying BOTH his Firebird and Les Paul. As one who saw Cream in person back in April 68, during their incendiary Disraeli Gears Tour, Eric's main ax throughout 90% of that tour was his historic, Gibson SG, "Fool" guitar estimated to be a 64 model. Clapton bought his Firebird during their shows at the Electric Factory (when I saw Cream) on April 20th at Philly's 8th Street Music. When saw Cream on April 19, EC used his iconic SG (which created his greatest overall Cream tone as heard on Wheels of Fire Winterland recordings) through a dual Marshall stack except, at the Factory, one Marshall head was out for repair and EC drove the second stack with a Fender Showman head but he was full blast volume and as I've recounted ad nauseam, that show was a watershed event for me and the guitar players I was with, EC was in virtuosic mode that night (Cream had its first week off in a long time due to rescheduling the Philly shows from the original early April dates) & he soared, his guitar literally created sonic euphoria:-)
When he hit high register riffs, it crawled up your spine, literally pushing us back like G forces. Imagine hearing the Crossroads recording at 100 times the volume....no live Cream recording has ever captured what it sounded like hearing his SG through a dual-stack from 15 feet away, sonic bliss!:-)
Is that Inigo Montoya behind Ginger??
@@davidgrisanti3379 great question
@@stinkboneorien1270 some information 👌👍
Indescribable sounds. The way Jack was experimenting with pedal notes and dissonance was and still is fascinating.
Did he have a Wah bass? This entire time I had no clue.
Hey Mike. I didn’t mean pedal as in foot pedal, sorry for the confusion. I meant a note played on an open string of Jack’s bass. As that note rings out, he is playing other melodic notes at the same time.
@@monty70 ooooh. My bad
I'm clueless to mechanics of music although I plan to learn guitar soon
No problem my friend. I believe the term pedal note usually refers to an organ anyway, but Jack is using the same idea. Some cool examples of Jack using this are at 5:53 to 6:16, 6:36 to 6:53 and 7:46 to 8:09.
@@monty70 very interesting! Thank you! I just had the privilege of listening to this fully on 3 grams of dried penis envy mushrooms lol it was life changing, chills and smiles just thinking of it. Best band ever bar none. Especially on psychedelics. Cheers and happy new year!
I think I'll go ahead and say it first I was there that night on the floor with my girlfriend Connie and my best friend drummer with his girlfriend Vivian deep purple opened wow what an opening opening wow and then cream comes on and Eric Clapton was creative as can be in Jack Bruce could eat that bass and Ginger Baker was phenomenal so anyway enjoy guys I'm hoping I will come up with her a video of it it was packed. Paul McCartney George Harrison and Ringo Starr were front row gas with their wives and Paul was busy he just got married anyway I'll stop cream you're the best
That’s amazing thank you for sharing
Hubert Sumlin would have had a fit hearing how far Cream took his simple guitar riff.
16:36 sounds like a skip or edit there ????????
Did the tape run out?
I wonder why Clapton chose a 335...?
It's a firebird
let me clarify that Paul McCarty was not there it was wrinkle George and John and their wives and so that's my only editing
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