This Is Why I QUIT Competitive Smash Bros Tournaments
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Today we watch episode 4 of the Smash Bros documentary, which focuses on Ken, the King Of Smash, one of the most legendary Smash players who has a similar story to mine's on why he retired.
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Why are you reacting to the vanilla Smash Brothers documentary when you could be reacting to Chillin reacting to himself reacting to the documentary
Honestly
Didn't expect you to watch my videos! Thank you so much ❤
I love your channel thanks for the scary stories I love them
wtf this cross over
ZeRo keep up the good work ZeRo you still show a good example to this day. you are the reason why I wanted to go to tournaments even that I didn’t after seeing what happened to you. anyways have a great Christmas everyone🍿
To be honest fan culture in America is pretty awful. If you’re perceived as the best and you lose, suddenly you're trash. If you beat the best everyone adores you and the cycle repeats.
Every victory is negated by one failure. No respect for time or effort put in because people don’t see it, and I’ll never get over that.
I hate America for this being an American because it's true in every videogame
@@z4ck261 true, its the same in every aspect of American culture. A team in nba, nfl, etc beats another good team and its suddenly that good team is now ass or so much worse. You beat someone in a game one time and suddenly you should never play the game again cause you're awful. An artist or actor wins an award over another, wow that other artist/actor must be awful not listening to them again. People in the US are such bandwagoners or hype beast that they move from win to win and forget the past in days, truly an annoying part of american entertainment.
@SupItsZack360 Not even just video games. The toxicity spreads into traditional sports too. I’m usually the first guy to defend America against stereotypes, but when it comes to toxic communities in any competitive scenes, America is absolutely one of the worst in general.
That's a very good point. Hopefully we can shift that mindset over time.
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I'm glad that Zero decided to retire, he looks much more happier and relaxed making content on UA-cam
resverie 17 he does
That schmoovin-ass dance at the end of each vid gives me life dude
resverie 17
Exactly. His life has gone so much more uphill.
Retierashia that’s true
Not just 'retire', but retired gracefully!
But lets be real, we need to give props to hungrybox, he has put up with hate from the entire community for so many years and he wasn’t even winning yet. Then when he finally became the best he got even more hate. He is so strong for being able to put up with it for literally 10 years.
Cuz he’a a crybaby jackass lol
Al Dali Point exactly.
@@aldali724 oh so you know him personally?
Person Personson just like everyone else in the smash communit lmfao
@@aldali724 < every person that never talk to hungry box
Honestly underdog routing is something that seems like a big america thing. America loves the underdog story. Underdog story is just what we love, Like Rocky
But zero was the biggest underdog just based on his child hood but all the hate he got was completely undeserved
@@Lenslows oh his hate was undeserved I just want to start there. Here is thing to public, while zero was climbing that is the underdog story that probably got him cheers, but then once he was definitively the top people don't see him as the underdog anymore it's all perception
As an MMA fan, which is pretty international, people like underdogs because they like to see people rise to the occasion, overcome adversity, and beat the odds. I think the story of Rocky is pretty universal even if it's American. In combat sports, a strong champion causes their entire division to rise up and get better, not just to beat them at the top, but to beat the competitors just below them as well. A high tide raises all ships so to speak.
@@JackShivsAlot true it just I know we can't be only underdog story but we seem to love it the most
Z but once he became the best, he is no longer an underdog.
Player: wins
Community: you are toxic
Smash community: Toxic
Or victims of toxicity because Leffen was selling out not only Hax, but also Hungrybox and ZeRo
Being at the top is dangerous! Have you ever read Pokemon Adventures? When Red is the champion, he accepts ALL challenges. Before you know it, the Elite 4 challenges him with the intent to murder him!
Lysander xX that manga is awesome
I like both but I like the Billy run better
Oh shit I need to get back into this manga.
Hold up the elite 4 actually tried to kill him?
I loved this manga
ZeRo- I don’t understand the underdog mentality
Also ZeRo- 13 year old prodigy beats pro player
There's a difference between the community attaching the underdog title to Zero back then and Zero considering himself an underdog on his own.
ok but that IS impressive deadass
Zero spits some mad facts about himself and his ideas. It really shows how much he understands smash and even life in general. Extremely happy to see him be successful.
3:55 that is exactly why I always rooted for zero in sm4sh. I wanted to see how long he would be able to keep his streak going with everyone studying him and gunning to take him down. Always made him the underdog in my eyes.
I refused to drink my coffee and eat my peanut butter sandwich until I saw this on my feed.
True dedication right here.
That’s like waiting to have sex until your favorite song comes on.
Master plan
Colonel Hoff Just peanut butter?
smash tournaments are so loud that you might as well become deaf to get an advantage lmao
SnessFresh Thats actually so funny lmao
Saf deadass can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
@@mraleko ikr XD
Also very smelly
@@sXNooBZSlaYClan yes
Ben Shapiro the Marth slayer
Fox doesn’t care about your feelings
Also man looks like Ben Shapiro looking for clues on Blue’s Clues
Hmm i have heard this name before. On Pokémon showdown
Cyber_C Ben Shapiro is a Conservative Jewish Lawyer. He is a bloody legend
dio
I used to want to be "the best Sheik in Ultimate" but seeing how cringey and toxic the smash community is I'd rather play for fun now. People really spend all their days complaining instead of going in the lab and learning to get around shit.
If you got time to cry, you got time to try
Are you a lab player? That's dope I'm a heart player you wanna be practice buddies?
I'm in elite smash I wont waste your time but sometimes I wanna play with the intent to just learn and I cant seem to lose the will to win when I play online ngl lol be cool to have people to play with who are good.
ight bro lmao
@@qlasalle I'd definitely like to play when Im ever free really. I dont spend too much time in the lab since Im confident in my fundamentals and adaptions but I would go into the lab a lot if I notice Im completely getting washed by something.
Also I dont really care if someones good or bad I just like having fun with no complaints
Sorry boys, the Nintendo switch doesn't support messaging. It says no.
@@thedead073 Big sad. Bring in Switch Miiverse for ya boys
If there's another Smash Game Sakurai will probably have a mental meltdown lol
I don’t know the internals but I hope he has an apprentice with his vision. Guy needs a break I feel.
I feel like there will be, but probably not for the next 5 or so years or until nintendos next console drops lol
@@luke3810 no plz i don't wanna buy another console
I don't know why they would need to do another game, at least right now. Smash ultimate is very close to the original vision of smash that sakurai had when he made smash 64 and melee
already had his mental breakdown making melee when he was given a very short time to make it lol
Dude I love your opinion and your side of the story, plz do more.
You did the right thing ZeRo. It looks like you really enjoy what your life is now and the accomplishments of the past are still there. Keep it at bro!
"this is why I quit smash tournaments"
"what I hate about myself"
*recent allegations*
welp apparently these titles had more than one meaning in hindsight now
@Officer Barbrady
back when a bunch of smash players got called out for allegations for sexual misconduct or harassment of minors. Zero was one of them being accused. He was found out to be asking for "inappropriate images" of a underage girl. But this was about five years. Yet the video titles I mentioned seem to imply he was reflecting on things he regrets about his past decisions. I'm guessing that was one of those things but he wasn't being 100% honest about it at the time. And it was kinda proven later on when he tried to deny and lie about the allegations a few times. When people brought evidence before him
tldr, zero was possibly hinting at something he didn't want to be revealed from his past. But unfortunately for him, it was
i completely understand why you left compettitve smash and I respect you for doing so your health is way more important than continuing to deal with a toxic ass community. btw I love the persona 5 music you've been playing in the background in some of your videos
I totally get that loss of motivation when you feel like you won’t get better at something. I had some bouts of that recently with my own hobbies and it really drained my motivation. Every failure was confirmation of that in my eyes, but in reality, I failed just as much before my self perceived “peak”. At the end of the day, you gotta do what you enjoy. Whatever that is, even if you have low points in it, you will always improve with time as long as the passion is there
Reasons why Zero quit: haters
Toxic community, actually.
@@Trattt Sadly. I think there isn't even a single community being as toxic as the smash community. Even the CS:GO community is more friendly.
@@fantasygaming8718 go play league of legends.
@@EpicBlackSheep all communitys are toxic. That's sad
@@EpicBlackSheep Oh true! Forgot about that 😅
400 smashers in the same space for a week. Imagine how bad that would smell
Smell like a lot of sea salt in one place.
This is your second best type of content, I really like you exploring the origin of competitive smash.
But nothing will beat Billy content
arsehole
Is that vagabond i see? XD
gotdamn right
LIL BILLLYYYYYYY lmao
@Josh derp dude I'm not saying this is bad content just that I really like the Billie format, that's it. I'm more of a melee fan than an ultimate fan, I just enjoyed zer0s stream raiding antics more than him going over stuff I already know.
Zero’s mustache looks like 2 dogs kissing each other
bruh
bruh
Bruh
Neck beard unfortunately
Old comment from other videos
People don't cheer for the underdog because it's "harder" for them; people cheer for the underdog because they are more relatable to the average person. Most of us are average joes, wishing or striving to be the best and know most of us won't make it. So when we see someone, who we feel is similar, actually win, we can empathize with that person.
Coolidge u nailed it
And this is why people love good Little Mac mains.
SoulHero7 wtf no? Screw Little Mac mains, why would you want to play a character that isn’t fun for anyone? They force people who wanna win to camp them out and knock them offstage until they fail to recover, whilst spamming smash attacks to approach. Why would you want to do that.
@@largenaq2935 *Good* Little Mac mains bro.
SoulHero7 what does that change? My point was about the character itself.
Trash talk to Feeling like the most hated is the most powerful combo you can perform.
Reddusk Ironsky I prefer the term “0 to retire”
Lowkey, WIFE was the leffen of that era. He lived in an anime too lol
I really like how you push the idea of putting your foot down and getting yourself out of an atmosphere that you're not comfortable in. It's a lot harder to do for most people than they realize, especially when it involves something that takes up most of your life. Loving your content, ZeRo. Keep up the good work, my man
ZeRo in his old thimbnails: OcO
ZeRo in his thumbnails now: o_o
PLEASE release more of these. I'm addicted to the documentary but your version with the added context and personality makes it 100x better! I can't wait for the next episode!!
I think the competitive scene for gaming in general is very toxic. Hell, boxing and UFC isn't even nearly as toxic. And I think it has to do with just how broad the community is. It can appeal to the lowest common denominator. I'm talking bout you LTG
I think the scene for competitive gaming in general is similar to the UFC if there were no filters on the pros and they were free to beef and slam others while still holding careers in their hands.
That's because the UFC and Boxing has heavy censorship.
Um, compared to other gaming scenes, the Smash scene is the most toxic and bratty.
@@Un1234l ehh wouldn't go that far mate. Don't get me wrong there's plenty of toxicity but so do a lot of fighting games. Also smash has a weird divide in its community due to its strange history.
They still need to shower though.
JFKdied2 people need to realise that the smash community is only heavily toxic compared to the traditional FGC, and that’s because smash appeals to a far broader fan base, unlike traditional fighting games which require a lot of dedication to enjoy competitively.
People then say that Pokemon has an even more toxic fan base, and somehow still can’t see the correlation that Pokemon also has one of the largest, broadest fanbases in the world.
I personally always rooted for the one on top because them winning means there's consistency. If a different person wins each major, it feels like there's no definitive best player and everyone just has on and off days. If the same person wins 50 majors in a row, it means there's a player consistently beating every other top player. You'll always remember the huge upsets where a god falls, but in the end, it's still the god that's considered a god, a fucking legend.
Wingsaber I mostly support hated players (that actually didn't do anything to deserve hate) and players I just like seeing them play
Wingsaber Spectators don't care about consistency.
Butttt than you got like 8 people to pick from to root for
These are the kinds of videos that quell my months of delusion that i could ever have the time or the autism to compete at top levels in smash...
I wish the whole smash community was more like the Japanese one.
Can't believe there's plebs that insult ZeRo just because he was the best player of Smash 4, they're just sadistic losers, glad ZeRo is happy now.
Felt like I was the only cheering for ZeRo back then
you proibably cheer for leo to lose
@@lolshatter ???
@@lolshatter ???
@@lolshatter ???
Zero I love your videos I feel like you killing the game rn.
Feel like zero is gonna get really emotional in the M2K episode
you better make the next episode bro
Yeah! Where’s the next one??
coolduderanch facts I’m still waiting
People root for the person against ZeRo during the streak cause they are the “underdog”
Then me rooting for ZeRo wanting him to continue the streak and kick everyone’s ass since the crowds against him
"so many times, it happens too fast; you trade your passion for glory"
Sup zero. keep it up homie
Zero asking for us to tell him if he should do Episode 5 and 6 made me chuchle. Bro, this is the best series I've seen in a while. Finally something to watch primarly and focused instead of letting UA-cam run on my second monitore while I play World of Warcraft.
Si
No stupido
Forse
Not epicó
Sì
Espera ¿Que?
Gee it's the same everywhere. People look at being a competetive pro with such bright eyes, commit, then get hit with what it's and the people are really like and lose their passion.
It's heartbreaking, really :/
I just love the ZeRo outro😂😂
Yes, episode 5 please, these are so interesting and your commentary adds a lot of insight.
@zero do you think people would still be cheering against you if you announced you were coming back? Just curious what your perception is. As an outsider I feel like the comeback would inspire people to cheer for you.
I mean mk leo is the new zero so old zero would probably make for a great comeback story
I mean, giving into the haters is almost giving them what they want. I’d love to see you in tournaments again because you’re an amazing player and could easily be the best in the world again. I understand why you quit, but you definitely still have fans!
In my experience, the trolls are not only persistent, they are rampant and they are enabled by the powers that be.
Ace Cyan dude I totally agree and I completely have a lot more understanding and empathy for top players now and it would be so cool to see zero compete again
Love your content bro! Do what you want to do. Don't feel pressured to go to tournaments if you don't want to.
Thanks for bringing the documentary to a wider audience Zero. I love the original, so it's really cool to know that new people are learning the history, and also get your view of the history at the same time.
How to piss off smash competitive community: start a community that does tournaments with items that's completely positive
More like straight cancer n more raging
Kendrick but it’s not. Your taking it the wrong way in that case.
@@Bonaby people gonna get hit by some lame beetle into smart bomb combo and die at 20 😂
CHEF MUNG dal laugh it off then 😂. Besides, the same things can happen to them right after.
Bonaby Yeah the classic laugh it off on the outside and then grumble about it being bullshit later lol
Honestly, this series is probably my favourite thing to watch in youtube recently. I only joined the ssb community when Smash 4 was released, and just this year I'm starting to understand the melee scene. I always knew about the documentary, but never actually watched it, so watching you talking about it, giving extra info, backstage view and whatnot is really cool, specially because you were the best player in the first smash game I ever played seriously. Keep going, ZeRo, you're awesome, and this series is really good.
Is nobody going to talk about that Wife doesn't even recall his loss correctly, they weren't even on the windmill portion of pokemon stadium
I know this is a year old but honestly I’m glad that zero is having his time doing UA-cam iv always loved watching him I mean if zero like did maybe a tournament or two but that would be awesome to see him back in there but he didn’t deserve all the stupidity hate everyone gave him!!
I hope they make another smash documentary about the events after the first one. So much happened, and if the quality was the same, it would truly be amazing
You have a new subscribe from me. I played smash but didn't really knew it could have been competitive til 3 years ago I found one of your tourney videos, my friends didn't like you and they had their reasons, but the you play, shocked me and not only you but other players like Esam, and hungry box, I know I haven't been around that long but you've been very chill and the villian story of your adventure in smash community and tourney is very interesting and inspiring lol I wish you'd have continue your competitive life but you also didn't seem happy so I'm also glad you're happier where you are rn.
Thanks, Zero.
watching you today talking about how UA-cam is your passion and your favorite thing to do really broke my heart
i think the things you did are really a small thing compared to how many people you made happy every day
itll probably be hard for the people to forgive you and even harder for you to forgive yourself
but please come back zero
Oh ya because having a sexually charged conversation with a minor is “small”. Fuck off kid
@@RubberYen let me have my opinions and shut the fuck up
RubberYen
Right??
Izumi pretty stupid opinion if you ask me. You zero fans are a bunch of pedo apologists
@@RubberYen well did i ask you? nope
also i would've taken your opinion seriously if you didn't say it in the most toxic way possible
This episode gave me a lot of insight as to what/how you were feeling during your competitive smash career. Can't wait for episode 5!
I need Zero to just make a podcast. Could listen to him all day.
In the works bro ❤
@@ZeRoWondering Much love! Also, money match me, bitch
@@aKingKrab I respect the balls on you.
@@Braxeo 🦀
@@ZeRoWondering I think I can beat you can we play together sometime
Haven't been in smash community for almost 7 months and since my last Zero video. UA-cam algorithm brought you back into my life zero and I'm liking the content! You also look like you lost weight! Happy New years zero!
I can see why Zero doesn’t root for the “underdog” because everyone wanted them to win when he was on top lol
Zero, I have the same story being at the top, hating the atmosphere and being around specific people, only my story was in Alaska, so it's small and still hard to get away from some players wanting me to come back in person all the time. I'm a lot happier after retiring too. I've always been a fan, before during and after your status in Smash 4, and I can't tell you how good it makes me feel to see a player I respect be so happy after making a change. Thank you for being you
Zero's guide to get smash out of his life:
Step 1. STOP PLAYING TOURNAMENTS
Step 2. Become a full time smash-tuber and streamer
Step 3. Start reacting to smash videos
Step 4. Stop playing smash
Step 5. Stop reacting to smash
Step 6. PROFIT
Definitely keep covering the documentary :) And I hope you find content outside of Smash to make and be successful with, ZeRo.
I would very much enjoy an episode 5 of this series!
Here's some engagement ZeRo :)
I have been seeing you play a few smash games and my impression was that you had a great passion for it. Man I could even support you because your positive vibe shows. Your that kind of guy that I want you to do your best...win or lose. I actually play my hardest because of what you did.
Now living in the future we all know why zero really quit😏
i'm a casual smash fan, never followed the scene or anything, but following a documentary as you comment on it is laaaaaaaaaaaaaaargely entertaining and 100% worth the 22 minutes. kudos zero :D
"If you lose the money match you will be humiliated for years to come." A certain "mentally untouchable" street fighter player knows this firsthand.
that taste still ain't been washed out of his mouth
Who is that lol
@@melonmanwill ltg
@@JoJo-qw7ic ?
@@melonmanwill look up "Low Tier God vs Viscant"
You have such an interesting perspective. You have the experience of being the best, and how it goes to come down from it. You know how all these things go, and it's so cool to hear how these experiences are for you. Theres so few that have your expertise, and even fewer willing to review and talk about these times how you do. Its truly amazing.
Bro I love you and all but every time I hear you say "Rutjers" unironically I can't
I think one of the parts that makes this series so enjoyable is that we get some insight into the documentary from a smash veteran. Zero knew a lot of these people and we get his perspective. Like yeah it’s a reaction video, but it’s one of the most reaction video series a I’ve seen versus some random guy who laughs at random videos.
There’s that saying “it’s lonely at the top”
The bit about Japan's attitude towards competition and foreign players was very sweet and heartwarming to me
"If you lose or dont show up to a money match, u will be humiliated for life"......
YOU HEAR THAT VERLISIFY 🤣🤣
Been years since I heard that name
Too busy praising dynamax and hating dynamax ban lol
I never comment on youtube videos...Zero I hope you know I look up to how you hold yourself here, you came down to earth with this video. You are worth your salt and worth of praise. Thank you for this video, I grew with you. Great commentary and analysis, please keep making content.
I should have just went and watched the documentary. You quit smash because your not good at losing, making poor excuses so your ego isn't crushed. Like you have an opportunity to be a role model and you just spit in the face of them. People ask you for advice so that they can figure out how to execute, where do they start and where do they end. If you can point them to where the stairs are then they'll walk it, but most don't even know where the stairs are or which ones to take. Then to say its not worth trying when you reach the top or if people hate on you is also disappointing to hear, with that outlook things get rusty pretty quick. Glad to see your happy making videos, I suppose it works out in the end, but just consider with great power comes great responsibility.
Bruhh I would love getting hate for being the best and make less money than working at McDonald wow.
Your comment is cringe but
Bruh
I miss Zero and the smash 4 days. Life just gets worse as you get older.
5:33 you can just see the disappoint and disapproval of playing smash in his dads eyes
I do want to become a smash player in tournament someday, but I don't want all that pressure on my shoulders when I do play and end up winning. A lot of people trash talk you and want you to lose. It's like I don't feel safe over a game. I can definitely see why you retired, and I respect that. Honestly, I would want to see you play again somewhat, but its fine and I really don't mind if you don't wanna play in tournaments anymore. You look very happy now, and hope you reach 1 million subs!
"Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown."
Because of this series i went and watch the whole documentary but i will keep seing your commentaries of it! Please keep it. I really liked Wife in the documentary. You can really tell that after all this time he really values smash like a pivotal point of his life
I always felt like competitive smash was a lot like Yu-Gi-Oh! Abridged.
Yo been loving this series from your perspective, I've seen the documentary many times and always love the "real talk" sides of fighting gamers as it gives a glimpse into what led to making a player who they really are as a person. Good shit Zer0, keep it up man.
Bruh
b r u h
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I love how a lot of your recent videos have been trending lately! Keep up the amazing work ZeRo!
Daym Zero.
Thoes are some feels.
You got your fans.
You got yourself.
Create a new atmosphere.
Break the mold.
I’m seriously upset i joined the comp scene fan base late. I never got to see zero compete. Hope this game gets a really good chance for prize pull money to make it worth your time and stress to come out of retirement zero. I’d easily fly out to support. From Chicago! Much love brother
I feel like this is what happens when the bottom of the barrel in society congregate. The socially awkward, the immature, those with no true sense of self create these toxic communities. Why hate on someone with a streak to the point of blatant disrespect? If they’re that good then it is what it is. They’ll eventually drop the streak, just enjoy the spectacle of high level play while being respectful. Too fucking easy.
Smash Bros could take a big look at the Tetris Community, how a REAL good competitive scene is done. Jonas dominated for 6 years, still gets cheered on and wholesomed by the whole community. Anyone there is so friendly and just respects big plays, doesn't matter who does them. Well, Tetris has a more grown up scene and not so many kids, but people still should watch how they do it, and do it like them.
I really wanna see you play more Smash please.
ghetto man once a month he will play smash once a month
Yes Zeroooo! I would love to hear your insight on the next videos. As a player who only started at the end of smash 4s life, these videos make me really happy, lesrning about the culture of our community. I also am very happy that you are feeling better in your life! Keep being happy!!
This just means Leo is going to go threw sum bad shit 😭
Yeah the crowds just want to see him loose at alot of tournaments
@@jongharyu yeah I'm a big leo fan and love to see that
Yessss, Zero, we’d love to see episode 5. I know you love making videos about Smash Bro’s lore, so I hope you enjoy covering the documentary.
My man Zero looking like he about to run into some random security checks at the airport.
I would love for you to continue this series! I've seen it 2x before but its so cool to get your perspective on the entire melee scene as someone who was there!
I started smash with smash 4 on the 3ds and I didn’t really know anything about the community or other players from before. It’s really fun to learn all these things especially with your perspective too. I would really like to see other videos like this.
I really enjoyed this video, watching such a well made documentary with such an interesting story plus a person as charismatic as zero giving his opinion on the topic. Idk, I thought this was really high quality content. Keep it up bro
I can't do competitive games, because I have anger issues mixed with taking things way too seriously. I broke my monitor by chucking my keyboard at it playing Overwatch once, and my Switch is missing a few less important chunks from the couple of times I've thrown it at the couch and had it bounce off harder than I expected. But I do love watching pros play. Just, from a distance.
3:40 why watching Armada in his dominant streak felt so good, you could see all of that there & see him overcome it, & it was awesome.