A few minutes in and notails' already feeding us a lot of valuable information. I'm not subscribed to gamerzclass but this is your best free video yet. Notail is a fucking god. The way he takes into account everything is fucking ridiculous and absurd at the same time. Really takes you into what the pros are thinking in game and how complicated dota really is. Amazing.
Notail's Note: Think a few seconds before deciding to use your buyback or not OG Squads: Buyback without hesitation, then wins fight and later on wins TI
In ti9 game 1 of grand finals, Ana hesitated on buying back to help defend the ancient and they lost the game. He may or may have been able to help turn the fight around but regardless, just as n0tail put it, it's better to buy back and try to win the fight than to not buyback and just accept the beating altogether.
@@heavensubculture Aren't everybody thinking about buy backs before they die? I mean everytime that i got ganked or anything i always put my cursor on buybacks button just need right time to click it.
What i learned from this DotA is more patience and timing, even you're ahead of anyone if you're greedy and got punished you can lose the game, but when you played in order of your team mates you can won any game.
I think the simplest way to explain this is by playing teamfights around your and your enemy's resources (skills, ultimate, items, etc). Each hero has different timing and powerspike, so if thou know that your overall team resources are just on the right time (like blink on ES, BKB on PA, or Doom reaching level 6, etc) then every single teamfight that happens around those timings are most favourably winnable by your team. You also need to pay attention to what skills and items (such as bkb or refresher) are on cooldown and tried to avoid any fight during that time because it is your "weakest state" so avoid teamfight and other big objectives like roshan or pushing high ground. Split pushing, securing jungle with wards, and agressive farming sometimes are good choices during this state, especially if you are in a lead.
Thats a bullshit for low elo i used to be at low elo and thinking cuz i always had bad teammates and toxic people but after i start ignoring even if my teammate feed on purpose and just focus my game i start climbing rank now im at divine 5 goal is immortal
I really like how Notail pointed out the importance of KNOWING skills and using skills *at the right moment* rather than button mashing as soon as you see a hero... Lion is one of the most picked supports out there however he has one of the lowest win rate for a support* and the most common problem that I see when I play with or against a Lion is their utilization of their disables. Let me explain a common situation, Lion sees an ENEMY (yes, just ONE) what's the first thing that the Lion would do you ask? He would IMPALE the SOLO enemy instead of HEXING him.. What's the problem with using one over the other when both disables the enemy anyway? Well, Impale can hit multiple targets while HEX can only target one(before talent). Now that I explained that part, what does that mean? Well that means that the target's ally can safely engage the fight because they now know that they have 1 less AOE CC spell to deal with. Which could potentially lead to Lion's team having a hard time of killing the enemy or WORSE, Lion's team could get WIPED instead...
@@srenkierkegaard6433 EXACTLY! I encountered another Lion that bought blink right away... He just dies right away because he jumps into us with out any follow up then we wiped the rest of his team because they came 1 at a time cause they were forced by their Lion teammate to engage into a bad fight...
@@michelbruinsma9075 Please tell me where I am wrong young master or are you just one of those people who uses curse and thinks that he's right even though he has nothing to prove his point.. I dare you..
thats the thing. right there.. the first teamfight win in the final agaisnt LGD. many people, highlighted ana since he survived with literally 1 hp. granted he's a great player, the best ember in fact. and what he did in that teamfight is pretty sick. but if you take one equation out of that teamfight, theyre most likely gonna lose. its that boat steal. if jerax didnt steal that boat. it would be a completely different situation all the way. i mean.. jerax is the man for sure, but he absolutely gotta steal something in that fight right? normally he would only steal from shaker, but this time he aimed for the kunkka. did he know he'd get the boat? or its simply somnus' mistake afterall? its funny because i saw a torrent used before the steal.. how the hell did he get the boat?
Love this analysis of Dota. Though pub matches obviously aren't going to work out like pro games, the average player being able to understand why pro games play out the way they do would benefit immensely understanding real team dynamics. For example, watching pro games would show lower/mid ranked players why they should stop overcommitting on tanky or very savable heroes. A initiating team may jump an Axe and kill him first to start a team fight, but this choice will likely cost valuable cooldowns and more importantly, reveal all of their positions and necessarily group them up to some extent. The remaining 4 defending players are likely now very capable of winning the remainder of the fight more handily with this added information, and not having to deal with some of the cooldowns. Once you know this, you learn how to deal with situations far cleaner and more sensibly. You anticipate what comes next, or what can come next versus what you think should happen just because you have a cooldown available that "usually hurts the enemy a lot."
Another thing that probably wasn’t discussed here that’s absolutely important with teamfighting is vision. May it be obs, beastmaster hawk, rocket flare etc. Teamfighting without good vision is really bad.
N0tail’s gamer class course is unfortunately not very good - it’s kind of like its pitched at beginners but I also don’t feel like it’d be all that helpful for beginners because it doesn’t properly explain some of the game’s fundamentals. Think he needs to do another one which is aimed at more experienced players where he’s a bit bolder in his opinions. I’d really recommend Nikobaby’s and Cr1t’s though - both excellent
GIRAL = Godmode Is Right About League. Spam = continuously casting spells, gotta have a low cooldown for that. Whats the difference in Dota and LoL when it comes to cooldowns? Oh yea Dota has waaaay longer cooldowns. LoL players BTFO. Kek.
@@ledgy69 Dwight Schrute says False: You actually can argue with valve shills, however you can't argue against the objective reality that is available for all to see and always has been. League came out of Dota, it is a derivative, much like The Godfather 3. Aaaand, discuss.
This has 163K views. 3million dota players. Now you realize why some of the so called "noobs" in low mmr ruin people's games. They don't take the time to learn concepts and mentality as opposed to learning heroes individually. They'd rather watch some funny streamer vid where a build works once and he shared it, so they believe it works. 10:36 perfect example. Imagine ana not holding the aegis at that time --- he gets jumped on, he already took 3 of the major skills lasso, fissure, torrent plus more.... how many times in low MMR does the other members of the team just do nothing from the back while the guy who got jumped is being mauled. Like they're afraid of being mauled or waiting for the mauling to end. They wouldn't even try to get someone else on the other team. They'll just stand around - and when the guy who got jumped complains as to why they just stood somewhere -- not even farming -- they'll say "stop crying".
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Sunflower gang!
Flower me
Notail some archon to legend tip please iv been stuck in archon 3 years
A few minutes in and notails' already feeding us a lot of valuable information. I'm not subscribed to gamerzclass but this is your best free video yet. Notail is a fucking god. The way he takes into account everything is fucking ridiculous and absurd at the same time. Really takes you into what the pros are thinking in game and how complicated dota really is. Amazing.
Exactly.
Back to back Ti winners.. I guess it wasn't just luck. xD
are you a 2k player lol he is providing very very simple and basic stuff here
I love how he use "WE" all the time, as if the team is just person
"We managed to buy Eul", meanwhile only Ana that build Eul lol
love it
@@deddysinaga8984 well Ana euls purchase was a collective team descision. now we as a team have a euls and ana can use it to help us.
He said friends too at first and used teammates after. Cool guy
Should use "I" instead, as an existentialist
Its common nothinh special, you would do that too in his position
Notail's Note: Think a few seconds before deciding to use your buyback or not
OG Squads: Buyback without hesitation, then wins fight and later on wins TI
Quick think lol
they think about buybacking before they die that’s it
In ti9 game 1 of grand finals, Ana hesitated on buying back to help defend the ancient and they lost the game. He may or may have been able to help turn the fight around but regardless, just as n0tail put it, it's better to buy back and try to win the fight than to not buyback and just accept the beating altogether.
@@heavensubculture Aren't everybody thinking about buy backs before they die? I mean everytime that i got ganked or anything i always put my cursor on buybacks button just need right time to click it.
@@jofelmorata wasn't that notail decision?
What i learned from this DotA is more patience and timing, even you're ahead of anyone if you're greedy and got punished you can lose the game, but when you played in order of your team mates you can won any game.
2 time TI champion. BigdaddyN0tail. 🙌😎
"PA what are you doing?"
"Im trying too look at the different perspective for the fight"
"They're already hitting throne...GG Report"
I think the simplest way to explain this is by playing teamfights around your and your enemy's resources (skills, ultimate, items, etc). Each hero has different timing and powerspike, so if thou know that your overall team resources are just on the right time (like blink on ES, BKB on PA, or Doom reaching level 6, etc) then every single teamfight that happens around those timings are most favourably winnable by your team. You also need to pay attention to what skills and items (such as bkb or refresher) are on cooldown and tried to avoid any fight during that time because it is your "weakest state" so avoid teamfight and other big objectives like roshan or pushing high ground. Split pushing, securing jungle with wards, and agressive farming sometimes are good choices during this state, especially if you are in a lead.
It comes down to I think pretty simple Sun Tzu Art of War shit: Look for fights when you are strong and they are weak, and dodge fights otherwise.
Thank you for the full episode of this one
When the tutorial is 16 minutes log, but my slow brain has to rewind a bit and it makes it into 1h long!
Thats a bullshit for low elo i used to be at low elo and thinking cuz i always had bad teammates and toxic people but after i start ignoring even if my teammate feed on purpose and just focus my game i start climbing rank now im at divine 5 goal is immortal
damn, I thought, it was OG team fighting each other
When you are in low elo, all you need is a prayer tutorial for nontoxic teamates
I really like how Notail pointed out the importance of KNOWING skills and using skills *at the right moment* rather than button mashing as soon as you see a hero... Lion is one of the most picked supports out there however he has one of the lowest win rate for a support* and the most common problem that I see when I play with or against a Lion is their utilization of their disables. Let me explain a common situation, Lion sees an ENEMY (yes, just ONE) what's the first thing that the Lion would do you ask? He would IMPALE the SOLO enemy instead of HEXING him.. What's the problem with using one over the other when both disables the enemy anyway? Well, Impale can hit multiple targets while HEX can only target one(before talent). Now that I explained that part, what does that mean? Well that means that the target's ally can safely engage the fight because they now know that they have 1 less AOE CC spell to deal with. Which could potentially lead to Lion's team having a hard time of killing the enemy or WORSE, Lion's team could get WIPED instead...
And the buy dagger. When lion sees enemy, even without info of other enemies, liom would blink stun and die right away
Holy shit, you are so wrong on your reasoning. What is your ranking, legend or low ancient?
@@srenkierkegaard6433 EXACTLY! I encountered another Lion that bought blink right away... He just dies right away because he jumps into us with out any follow up then we wiped the rest of his team because they came 1 at a time cause they were forced by their Lion teammate to engage into a bad fight...
@Mr Lee Are you being sarcastic on me?? Haha.. Anway, I will once my rank goes up a little more so that I'd be more credible..
@@michelbruinsma9075 Please tell me where I am wrong young master or are you just one of those people who uses curse and thinks that he's right even though he has nothing to prove his point.. I dare you..
Well-deserved TI winner. But seriously he get awarded greatly by finding this Topson dude out of nowhere.
If they took puppey as their coach people will take this class seriously coz you know he'll be on your door if you mess up
Funny item bro
i learned a lot from this, my spell usage has become considerably better during team fights
before game: calculated
in actual game: go YOLO go YOLO
thats the thing. right there.. the first teamfight win in the final agaisnt LGD. many people, highlighted ana since he survived with literally 1 hp. granted he's a great player, the best ember in fact. and what he did in that teamfight is pretty sick.
but if you take one equation out of that teamfight, theyre most likely gonna lose. its that boat steal. if jerax didnt steal that boat. it would be a completely different situation all the way. i mean.. jerax is the man for sure, but he absolutely gotta steal something in that fight right? normally he would only steal from shaker, but this time he aimed for the kunkka. did he know he'd get the boat? or its simply somnus' mistake afterall? its funny because i saw a torrent used before the steal.. how the hell did he get the boat?
One thing he didn't talk about is that the ability to make GOOD split second decisions.
Love this analysis of Dota. Though pub matches obviously aren't going to work out like pro games, the average player being able to understand why pro games play out the way they do would benefit immensely understanding real team dynamics.
For example, watching pro games would show lower/mid ranked players why they should stop overcommitting on tanky or very savable heroes. A initiating team may jump an Axe and kill him first to start a team fight, but this choice will likely cost valuable cooldowns and more importantly, reveal all of their positions and necessarily group them up to some extent. The remaining 4 defending players are likely now very capable of winning the remainder of the fight more handily with this added information, and not having to deal with some of the cooldowns. Once you know this, you learn how to deal with situations far cleaner and more sensibly. You anticipate what comes next, or what can come next versus what you think should happen just because you have a cooldown available that "usually hurts the enemy a lot."
muchas gracias por poner subtitulos en español
Another thing that probably wasn’t discussed here that’s absolutely important with teamfighting is vision. May it be obs, beastmaster hawk, rocket flare etc. Teamfighting without good vision is really bad.
Before OG won their first TI I remember watching n0tail play slark with refresher before shard even existed. Man was a little ahead of the game
Ana: just go YOLO and fountain farm
i believe notail said fissure and not fisher
wrong translation maybe
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His english sounds native now hahaha
So let’s get serious here, how do I win in turbo???
Go 5 carry,u will win no matter what
People still asking this?
You usually wanna help your teammates.
- Notail
So when they crushed EG in TI9 arteezy anti-mage cutting the wave is right thing to do. But he got still punished by OG..
It is really the right thing to do. Its just that those “keyboard warriors” makes fun of it, when it is the best thing he can do at that moment.
Thank you soo much for this# NoTail. 👍
i want a Ceb gamerzclass 😣
CC: Earthshaker Fisher, Yule's Scepter, Conquer (Kunkka).
when notail said u win as a team and he laugh because of the toxicity of dota xDDD
if ceb didnt put up a good magnus SS in that TI game , you will definetely lose on that , jetax is grrat in that game too
Helped me a lot
I just flame team until I win. Works every time 50% of the time
N0tail’s gamer class course is unfortunately not very good - it’s kind of like its pitched at beginners but I also don’t feel like it’d be all that helpful for beginners because it doesn’t properly explain some of the game’s fundamentals. Think he needs to do another one which is aimed at more experienced players where he’s a bit bolder in his opinions.
I’d really recommend Nikobaby’s and Cr1t’s though - both excellent
Agreed
Maybe an advanced dota class
Why do the hero names not match the portraits? kunka is lich, ES is Mirana. wtf is going on.
Some archon to legend tips please
Push out waves before taking fights
Always pick TA
destroy enemy throne first
Why archon or legend? Our boy Notail here is teaching you how to win TI.
Make sure the creep waves are pushed before taking the teamfights
Great ANAlisis
ah yes the kunkka boat
This proves dota you must play with teammates and not solo
I think that's the dota difference. In other mobas you just spam skills.
This is every dota player who's played 5 minutes of league, I have 1k on dota and Well over that in league. ... Both great games stop talking SHIt
GIRAL = Godmode Is Right About League. Spam = continuously casting spells, gotta have a low cooldown for that. Whats the difference in Dota and LoL when it comes to cooldowns? Oh yea Dota has waaaay longer cooldowns. LoL players BTFO. Kek.
To clarify I actually prefer dota even though I've got 3-4x the playtime on league. But ya can't argue with valve shills
@@ledgy69 Dwight Schrute says False: You actually can argue with valve shills, however you can't argue against the objective reality that is available for all to see and always has been. League came out of Dota, it is a derivative, much like The Godfather 3. Aaaand, discuss.
enough bullshit. it's you who the mastermind. praise yourself for keeping kunka isolated many times when team fight. that's pure genius.
Haha , i used bb wrong till now. only used it when my team flame me xD
"Kunkka boat". Shows Torrent LULW
3rd !!!! Eg fan so I guess it's fine lol
True fan!
Lmao
Yikes
11:47
Grrrrr
We’re not fucking using this on SEA SERVER!! HAIL SEA SERVER!!!!
og forever
Notail micro kunka in rosh pit
Dont tell your enemies your team strategy man
This has 163K views. 3million dota players. Now you realize why some of the so called "noobs" in low mmr ruin people's games. They don't take the time to learn concepts and mentality as opposed to learning heroes individually. They'd rather watch some funny streamer vid where a build works once and he shared it, so they believe it works. 10:36 perfect example. Imagine ana not holding the aegis at that time --- he gets jumped on, he already took 3 of the major skills lasso, fissure, torrent plus more.... how many times in low MMR does the other members of the team just do nothing from the back while the guy who got jumped is being mauled. Like they're afraid of being mauled or waiting for the mauling to end. They wouldn't even try to get someone else on the other team. They'll just stand around - and when the guy who got jumped complains as to why they just stood somewhere -- not even farming -- they'll say "stop crying".
Notail speaks fluent english
n0tail i love you
I find the people who use the word "TEAM FIGHT" the most while playing are the least skilled players.
Are you trying to bash someone or??? Your statement is pointless
Yeah cause playing solo farming wins games always.
Russian subtitles are translated very badly...
Mi boleto dorado al TI20 B)
ganda ng content
transitions 2 loud
Why russian subtitles so bad? Previous videos was good enough to understand, that is something happend, like google translator
Make a video comparing Dota to aspects of other real life games so my dad can understand it better.
мне одному интересно какого ахмеда пушит ана?
Gosu
big daddy!!!
First
i know everything he said but still on 3K. lul.
Most of the time, he’s just stating the obvious. It’s so boring to watch, not very informative.
Dota is a hard game and dota is slowly dying so need more easy to understand videos to help gain new players. Old dota player most likely already know