Man, that takes me back! I love the card art for this game, they really embraced (no pun intended) the gothic-punk aesthetic of the roleplaying game. The game itself is excellent, but for full effect you really need a table of about five players and a fairly deep card pool - there are no limits on how many copies of a main deck card you can include in your decks, and some decks would use lots of copies of one card ( I seem to remember a tournament deck that used like fifty copies of Form of Mist) while there were some general staples that most decks needed in abundance. Having lots of "wakies" (Wake With Evening's Freshness, or another card that did the same thing) really helped you to defend yourself while still taking active turns, and cards like Telepathic Misdirection that let you bounce a bleed action from your predator to your prey were also pretty standard - sometimes an attack would work itself right away right the table! Then there were cards that played well in specific archetypes - Drawing Out The Beast was part of a combo strategy for trapping your enemy in close combat and beating them down, Weather Control was used by some Tremere decks to end combat before it started with cards like Dawn Operation that made all damage aggravated (and Skin of Night to protect your own guys), and Majesty was very powerful for more political or bleed focused decks to just deny fights to more toolboxy decks that would try to target their prey's weaknesses. Politics was powerful both as a game mechanism (cross table Parity Shifts - ouch!) and as a consequence of the way seating was arranged between predators and prey and how their decks stacked up. You had to take down the player who played after you did while surviving the player who went before you, but if your predator's deck struggled against yours then you might want to defend him against his own predator, and so on. Deal With The Devil is an interesting example that you brought up that showed how fundamentally different V:TES was to games like Magic. Whenever you played a card, you drew a new one right away, and the game always had a strong focus on cards in hand versus cards in play. A strongly combat oriented deck might be reliably able to draw their entire combat strategy every single fight, but could they catch your stealthy guys, or bleed out their prey fast enough, or find answers to damaging votes when they needed them? Ditching your hand and drawing a new one was mostly a solution to "hand jam" where you were stuck with lots of unplayable cards (since cards could only be played when needed, and discarded from hand rarely) rather than a way to get a ton of straight up advantage, so you might see it played in stealth decks, where one of the counters to their game plan was to just let their actions go through unopposed so that their hand was clogged with stealth boosting cards that they didn't need and stopped them from drawing bleed boosters and defences. I had a moderate collection of cards but I never got to experience the full effect until a third party website made an online playable version, and man was that fun while it lasted! I think it may even have been official or semi-official at one point. One unfortunate thing was that the Jyhad Vampires rarely saw play, since the vampires from later sets were incompatible and generally had more useful / interesting printed abilities. I always smile when I see "old friends" like Don Cruez the Idealist or Smudge the Ignored. Awesome video, thanks for the Halloween fun. Very apt.
Thank you for the really in depth comment - it was great to read! I totally didn't know that you could have any number of a card in your deck - that's pretty crazy honestly haha I'm not surprised that decks consisting of a single card existed.
The game is actually not dead now, however, new products will never be a CCG-style anymore, only fixed sets with no rares, etc. You can check new products here: www.blackchantry.com/products/current-products/ And V5 beginners box (with 5 decks, rules and counters) is coming at the end of November. This game has several balance/rules problems, but it's a really great multiplayer game and you can buy a VERY competitive deck for about 30 bucks. A great choice for a Halloween video!
Another messaged me about this shortly after releasing the video - I had no idea it was still going! Though I'm not too surprised since games like Legend of the Five Rings got rebooted as a living card game. Honestly it's pretty cool - if I have the spare time and funds I may just check out that November release :)
@@RedZoneRogue The main difference between VTES and other rebooted games (netrunner, l5r, etc) is that you can actually play with Jyhad cards because VTES was never rebooted. There was no v2 or something like this. It is the same game as 10 years earlier. I didn't count the cards you've opened in this video, but using only Jyhad cards it is possible to build some competitive decks like Malkavian'94 or Ventrue Lawfirm, and of course, it's much easier to build a good deck combining these old cards with newer products. I think Jyhad boxes are really good if you don't have a huge card pool and you don't mind the old-school look of cards. The main problem here is that you can't play the game with just your gf, you need 2-3 more players. And btw your channel is really great! Hope you'll get more viewers - you deserve it!
OH, i forgot to say there are references in this card game that are a nod to similar Magic cards which they did intentionally like "The Rack" and "Sengir Dagger", a reference to the vampire in Magic. There are several more but i don't remember them all.
Finally, This I was searching for! I hope you can go also a bit into Rage! Love the Old TCG stuff! Going for your Middle Earth Vid, right after this one!
We got a new vtes set in december! game is still going strong, but doesnt have booster packs anymore. Its a LCG now. You can still find playgroups (and people playing online). The cards from your box are still compatible with the most modern ones and you got a lot of staples for modern decks (like govern the unaligned, the rack and so on).
Someone else also mentioned this! I'll definitely have to check it out once I have some spare money - I'll pick up some of the new product and make a video on it since I'm a pretty big fan of VTM :)
@@RedZoneRogue there's a big box with 5 new decks (ventrue,tremere,toreador,nosferatu,Malkavian) that comes with a pretty rulebook and tokens and everything else that you will need to play. Aside from it there are precon decks for the sabbat clans (Tzimisce,lasombra,tremere antitribu and toreador antitribu ) and an anniversary edition gangrel deck that are on print right now. If you don't want to fork any money until you get a few games going on for you there is a tabletop simulator plugin and a program called LackeyCCG that the community uses to play. I run a discord server for people that play on lackey, let me know if you want to play a few games!
Has a bunch of this when I was a kid but never played it! Not sure if it’s bloodier than the old rage tcg lol. That game was so 90s with art and card design.
LOL, this is the Alpha of the Vampire CCG's and it should be worth a ton of money. I really don't understand the valuation, but maybe one day it will be worth what it should be. The video game you're talking about is "Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines" and yes, the sequel is out. :)
VTES player since 95'. This game is so fun. THEE card out of all of them? Freak Drive is the one I would want most. Rarest? Probably - Body of Sun. I still don't have one. Most useful? Deflection. There are no rare vampires in that set, you have the same chance to get any of them. A few are useless - Monocle of Clarity (you can always lie, there is no way to enforce this). Cards of note that changed/errors. Blood Rage-wrong skill on card, it's Thaumaturgy not Fortitude. Majesty now costs 1 blood, Wake with Evening's Freshness is not replaced until your untap phase, Protracted Investment now costs 2 and puts 5 on the card.
Yo thank you for the info! It's really sweet to see what long time players think about certain cards - Monocle of Clarity in particular is pretty funny XD
@@RedZoneRogue A company called Black Chantry is doing VTES now. Look on Drive Thru Cards. It's not CCG anymore. No booster packs. You just buy decks. Almost all Jyhad cards are still playable with the newest cards too.
This is only true of the later printing monocle where the actions became non-binding if it was a future action, original Jyhad/V:Tes your yes/no was binding and you had to comply with it as best as possible.
the game is still going strong! A company called 'black chantry' is publishing it now and you can get new sets from their website or from drivethru cards :)
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Man, that takes me back! I love the card art for this game, they really embraced (no pun intended) the gothic-punk aesthetic of the roleplaying game.
The game itself is excellent, but for full effect you really need a table of about five players and a fairly deep card pool - there are no limits on how many copies of a main deck card you can include in your decks, and some decks would use lots of copies of one card ( I seem to remember a tournament deck that used like fifty copies of Form of Mist) while there were some general staples that most decks needed in abundance. Having lots of "wakies" (Wake With Evening's Freshness, or another card that did the same thing) really helped you to defend yourself while still taking active turns, and cards like Telepathic Misdirection that let you bounce a bleed action from your predator to your prey were also pretty standard - sometimes an attack would work itself right away right the table! Then there were cards that played well in specific archetypes - Drawing Out The Beast was part of a combo strategy for trapping your enemy in close combat and beating them down, Weather Control was used by some Tremere decks to end combat before it started with cards like Dawn Operation that made all damage aggravated (and Skin of Night to protect your own guys), and Majesty was very powerful for more political or bleed focused decks to just deny fights to more toolboxy decks that would try to target their prey's weaknesses. Politics was powerful both as a game mechanism (cross table Parity Shifts - ouch!) and as a consequence of the way seating was arranged between predators and prey and how their decks stacked up. You had to take down the player who played after you did while surviving the player who went before you, but if your predator's deck struggled against yours then you might want to defend him against his own predator, and so on.
Deal With The Devil is an interesting example that you brought up that showed how fundamentally different V:TES was to games like Magic. Whenever you played a card, you drew a new one right away, and the game always had a strong focus on cards in hand versus cards in play. A strongly combat oriented deck might be reliably able to draw their entire combat strategy every single fight, but could they catch your stealthy guys, or bleed out their prey fast enough, or find answers to damaging votes when they needed them? Ditching your hand and drawing a new one was mostly a solution to "hand jam" where you were stuck with lots of unplayable cards (since cards could only be played when needed, and discarded from hand rarely) rather than a way to get a ton of straight up advantage, so you might see it played in stealth decks, where one of the counters to their game plan was to just let their actions go through unopposed so that their hand was clogged with stealth boosting cards that they didn't need and stopped them from drawing bleed boosters and defences.
I had a moderate collection of cards but I never got to experience the full effect until a third party website made an online playable version, and man was that fun while it lasted! I think it may even have been official or semi-official at one point. One unfortunate thing was that the Jyhad Vampires rarely saw play, since the vampires from later sets were incompatible and generally had more useful / interesting printed abilities. I always smile when I see "old friends" like Don Cruez the Idealist or Smudge the Ignored.
Awesome video, thanks for the Halloween fun. Very apt.
Thank you for the really in depth comment - it was great to read! I totally didn't know that you could have any number of a card in your deck - that's pretty crazy honestly haha I'm not surprised that decks consisting of a single card existed.
Since that box was from 1994 that makes it 26 year old booster box.
Yeah I math'd very wrong haha I was off by 10 years in my head
When I was in high school, I loved this game. Nice find Kel!
Cheers! It's honestly such a cool game. I've seen some art of the later sets and it only gets better
The game is actually not dead now, however, new products will never be a CCG-style anymore, only fixed sets with no rares, etc. You can check new products here: www.blackchantry.com/products/current-products/ And V5 beginners box (with 5 decks, rules and counters) is coming at the end of November. This game has several balance/rules problems, but it's a really great multiplayer game and you can buy a VERY competitive deck for about 30 bucks.
A great choice for a Halloween video!
Another messaged me about this shortly after releasing the video - I had no idea it was still going! Though I'm not too surprised since games like Legend of the Five Rings got rebooted as a living card game. Honestly it's pretty cool - if I have the spare time and funds I may just check out that November release :)
@@RedZoneRogue The main difference between VTES and other rebooted games (netrunner, l5r, etc) is that you can actually play with Jyhad cards because VTES was never rebooted. There was no v2 or something like this. It is the same game as 10 years earlier. I didn't count the cards you've opened in this video, but using only Jyhad cards it is possible to build some competitive decks like Malkavian'94 or Ventrue Lawfirm, and of course, it's much easier to build a good deck combining these old cards with newer products. I think Jyhad boxes are really good if you don't have a huge card pool and you don't mind the old-school look of cards.
The main problem here is that you can't play the game with just your gf, you need 2-3 more players.
And btw your channel is really great! Hope you'll get more viewers - you deserve it!
OH, i forgot to say there are references in this card game that are a nod to similar Magic cards which they did intentionally like "The Rack" and "Sengir Dagger", a reference to the vampire in Magic. There are several more but i don't remember them all.
Finally, This I was searching for! I hope you can go also a bit into Rage! Love the Old TCG stuff! Going for your Middle Earth Vid, right after this one!
We got a new vtes set in december! game is still going strong, but doesnt have booster packs anymore. Its a LCG now. You can still find playgroups (and people playing online). The cards from your box are still compatible with the most modern ones and you got a lot of staples for modern decks (like govern the unaligned, the rack and so on).
Someone else also mentioned this! I'll definitely have to check it out once I have some spare money - I'll pick up some of the new product and make a video on it since I'm a pretty big fan of VTM :)
@@RedZoneRogue there's a big box with 5 new decks (ventrue,tremere,toreador,nosferatu,Malkavian) that comes with a pretty rulebook and tokens and everything else that you will need to play. Aside from it there are precon decks for the sabbat clans (Tzimisce,lasombra,tremere antitribu and toreador antitribu ) and an anniversary edition gangrel deck that are on print right now. If you don't want to fork any money until you get a few games going on for you there is a tabletop simulator plugin and a program called LackeyCCG that the community uses to play. I run a discord server for people that play on lackey, let me know if you want to play a few games!
Has a bunch of this when I was a kid but never played it! Not sure if it’s bloodier than the old rage tcg lol. That game was so 90s with art and card design.
Yeah the non-vampire cards in the vampire slots were additional rares
Both Kindred Restructure and Succubus club are currently banned...
LOL, this is the Alpha of the Vampire CCG's and it should be worth a ton of money. I really don't understand the valuation, but maybe one day it will be worth what it should be. The video game you're talking about is "Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines" and yes, the sequel is out. :)
VTES player since 95'. This game is so fun. THEE card out of all of them? Freak Drive is the one I would want most. Rarest? Probably - Body of Sun. I still don't have one. Most useful? Deflection. There are no rare vampires in that set, you have the same chance to get any of them. A few are useless - Monocle of Clarity (you can always lie, there is no way to enforce this). Cards of note that changed/errors. Blood Rage-wrong skill on card, it's Thaumaturgy not Fortitude. Majesty now costs 1 blood, Wake with Evening's Freshness is not replaced until your untap phase, Protracted Investment now costs 2 and puts 5 on the card.
Yo thank you for the info! It's really sweet to see what long time players think about certain cards - Monocle of Clarity in particular is pretty funny XD
@@RedZoneRogue A company called Black Chantry is doing VTES now. Look on Drive Thru Cards. It's not CCG anymore. No booster packs. You just buy decks. Almost all Jyhad cards are still playable with the newest cards too.
This is only true of the later printing monocle where the actions became non-binding if it was a future action, original Jyhad/V:Tes your yes/no was binding and you had to comply with it as best as possible.
@@FionaLovecraft Please explain how you can enforce someone lying? What is the consequence?
2020 - 1994= 26 ;)
fun halloween video!
Cheers! Yeah haha my math was off by 10 years XD
Crap! I was hoping this was a new game and not a dead game.
I think there was a Vampire the Masquerade kickstarter for a new card game not too long ago!
the game is still going strong! A company called 'black chantry' is publishing it now and you can get new sets from their website or from drivethru cards :)
The game is not dead, and it's an excellent game