I Found Tesla FSD 13’s Weakest Link

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  • @madcam3899
    @madcam3899 Місяць тому +199

    Its brilliant that you have added awkward maneuvers to the video, it really shows the amazing progress this technology has made. Love the work you do, please keep posting thanks

    • @redcrumb
      @redcrumb Місяць тому +5

      FSD unsupervised is next year, 2025. SURELY EVERYONE agrees?

    • @itsyo42
      @itsyo42 Місяць тому +2

      @@redcrumb depends on regulations, could be deployed for certain stretches of roads, probably not 100% of the public roads

  • @apple1231230
    @apple1231230 Місяць тому +153

    18:18 - 18:21
    FSD outward appearance "beep boop"
    FSD internal monologue: aAHAHHASDHAHFDSAHFHASDFGSA WTFWTFWTF

    • @moreliberty1
      @moreliberty1 Місяць тому +10

      lmao. Perfect summary of that craziness.

    • @RubenKelevra
      @RubenKelevra Місяць тому +10

      I think it tried Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, Circle, X. But then realized that this isn't implemented yet.

    • @ChristopherDrosos
      @ChristopherDrosos Місяць тому +2

      Fsd real internal monologue: i wish i could overtake my programming to show this human some rules. You never put me in this situation for no reason

    • @kevin42
      @kevin42 Місяць тому +5

      ​​@@RubenKelevra Underrated.

    • @isaacyoung1868
      @isaacyoung1868 Місяць тому

      just hope the internal monolog isn't something like, "wish i could kill all humans"

  • @darylfortney8081
    @darylfortney8081 Місяць тому +231

    It’s next triumph is actually reading traffic signs

    • @06howea1
      @06howea1 Місяць тому +25

      I imagine reading them is easy, but applying them in context is difficult.

    • @timepstein274
      @timepstein274 Місяць тому +4

      Unfortunately will almost certainly be impossible until too close to make a safe decision or adjust speed, with HW3 1.2MP cameras to read traffic signs (as opposed to identifying object patterns, which it does now).
      I have tried this using the screen to read a sign with school zone hours in time to adjust my speed but it wasn't possible.
      Elon said that if HW3 computers needed to be upgraded for unsupervised FSD, the existing cameras would still be ok. I disagree for the reason I just highlighted

    • @geirmyrvagnes8718
      @geirmyrvagnes8718 Місяць тому +12

      @@timepstein274 I think that part should be possible. If you can look at the picture from the camera and read the sign, a computer can ideally do it better.

    • @Kazekoge101
      @Kazekoge101 Місяць тому +2

      May not be possible till HW5.

    • @juliahello6673
      @juliahello6673 Місяць тому +1

      Somebody else has a patent on cars reading signs, which is why it has been such a problem for Tesla. They could still train it on common signs, though, without having the car learn to read the sign, just recognize the pattern.

  • @RubenKelevra
    @RubenKelevra Місяць тому +578

    When there's nothing to report still, you could do videos about Mercedes "light-years ahead of Tesla full Level 3 autonomy" system. Pretty sure that's enough to fill this channel for years and years to come ;)

    • @BigBen621
      @BigBen621 Місяць тому +56

      Yup, who wants to drive >40 MPH anyway?

    • @AdoTopuz
      @AdoTopuz Місяць тому +18

      Yes. Please do. Start a gofundme we will all pitch in to have you buy the most advanced fsd car on the market so we can see some actual footage by you.

    • @thomasreese2816
      @thomasreese2816 Місяць тому +12

      Except no one will want to watch the Mercedes clips

    • @zeph3070
      @zeph3070 Місяць тому +25

      @@thomasreese2816 Eh, if he gets into some solid ass side by sides and general comparisons, it'll be content

    • @kmanccr
      @kmanccr Місяць тому +31

      this is just an ignorant anti-Tesla comment. Two things, 1) the companies are taking different strategies. 2) Mercedes system can only handle specific situations and will refuse to drive certain situations that Tesla can do. Doubt Mercedes will pass this stress test as well as the Tesla.

  • @hsiaohu2959
    @hsiaohu2959 Місяць тому +80

    ... and I also agree with you 100% that Tesla has the data to do its own mapping and that mapping would only get better as the fleet communicates with each other

    • @redcrumb
      @redcrumb Місяць тому +1

      FSD unsupervised is next year, 2025. SURELY EVERYONE agrees?

    • @SailingFloh
      @SailingFloh Місяць тому +2

      Yes same with speed signs especially non standard ones Tesla should use the data that the cars collect. But obviously they are not doing this for all signs at the moment

    • @SailingFloh
      @SailingFloh Місяць тому +1

      ​@@redcrumbnope like Elon mentioned and he is always optimistic 2026 for unsupervised they need to get absolutely 0 interventions in areas and I mean 0 no problems with time based signs and so on because Tesla is fully responsible for the car when going unsupervised😅

  • @nickfosterxx
    @nickfosterxx Місяць тому +10

    8:05 the polite little touch on the indicator here to show intent really made me sit up, that whole sequence just done so gracefully. That was basically me driving, right there.

  • @obibon4548
    @obibon4548 12 днів тому +1

    Yes, please keep making these videos forever. We just want to see you driving around and narrating the drive in your signature style...
    "... but the person in front of me had no idea that the Wendy's $3 menu had already been discontinued and kept trying to order a Big Bacon Double from the value menu until the car behind me honked in frustration and they finally gave up. Considering how far FSD 87 has come in the past few weeks it's not the biggest problem that I've seen , but I am going to keep counting this as an intervention until Full Self Driving lets me tell it that this is ridiculous and it relays the message to other driver."

  • @JuggoVuggo
    @JuggoVuggo Місяць тому +4

    It is not about better mapping. It is about detecting and reading signs. EVERY sign. With Cortex they should quickly let the model learn all the text on the signs and give it meaning to the car.
    No turn on red , no u-turn, etc... That is whats needed for it being complete.

  • @digitalfabrikation4298
    @digitalfabrikation4298 Місяць тому +243

    Thumbs up from every European watching this, having the feeling that a) our automotive industry will get smacked and b) feels that everyone around you is not paying attention to what is about to happen. Thanks AI DRIVR for helping to open some eyes at least. Truly appreciated.

    • @Idiomatick
      @Idiomatick Місяць тому +6

      Everyone's will get smacked. Fully self driving means you need like 30% fewer vehicles.

    • @Ample17
      @Ample17 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@IdiomatickWhat's your Math on that? I don't expect to see such a reduction in total vehicle numbers. More like everyone will want to go everywhere with a robotaxi because it's cheap and comfortable.

    • @Idiomatick
      @Idiomatick Місяць тому +10

      @@Ample17 Greater vehicle utilization rates. A lot of people will drop car ownership and just use robotaxis to save money, and that will require less vehicles. Like your car might be driving 5% of the time but a taxi will be more like 25%+ of the time.

    • @workingTchr
      @workingTchr Місяць тому +4

      @@Idiomatick I thought your reason was going to be more "efficient driving" with FSD vehicles on the road. For instance, if the car directly in front of you is using FSD too, then you could "tail gate" them safely, right? Imagine 10 FSD cars in a row all about 1 meter apart going 60mph! In the SF movie "Until the End of the World", there's a scene of an intersection without lights since everyone knows where everyone else is. Is FSD the start of that? EDIT: You were talking about the number of vehicles on the road, not how efficient they move. Oh well ...

    • @workingTchr
      @workingTchr Місяць тому

      Nice to see the ol USA taking the lead in something beneficial to humanity instead of just threatening everyone with military retaliation.

  • @aerostorm_
    @aerostorm_ Місяць тому +69

    Definitely need better map data. Would love a public system.
    I have multiple roads near a family member that are unmapped. It defaults to 25mph and will try to nav 20 minutes around a 1 mile stretch of an unknown road.

    • @quantuminfinity4260
      @quantuminfinity4260 Місяць тому +6

      I test drove one on 12.5 and their maps service didn’t show a road that was closed that showed up on both Apple Maps and Google maps as closed and had clearly been closed for quite a long time and it wasn’t even some minor road. FSD tried to continue despite the road being ripped up in a bunch of do not enter signs.

    • @redcrumb
      @redcrumb Місяць тому

      FSD unsupervised is next year, 2025. SURELY EVERYONE agrees?

    • @catbert7
      @catbert7 Місяць тому +1

      @@quantuminfinity4260 As of last year it was still trying to drive directly through closed road signs around here. It really be tryin' to mind over matter this shiz.

    • @aigtrader2984
      @aigtrader2984 Місяць тому

      One temporary we're around for this is to open the map and set way points along your route to go down the road that is unknown. Might be a little annoying, but at least it will try.

  • @houghtonic1975
    @houghtonic1975 Місяць тому +5

    I drive 42 miles one way to work in the Texas hill country around and through Austin. I just received Fsd v13.2.1 yesterday and I can definitely tell a difference from 12.5.6.2 or whatever I had previously. There are three large speed bumps near my house that have been interesting in the past and required interventions. Fsd 13.2.1 handled them near perfect in low light conditions. There is a stop sign that used to cause a hard stop start behavior that no longer gives an issue. Fsd deftly avoided some small road debris in a residential road by going around it into the other lane without any hesitation smoothly. Curvy roads at speed cover large portions of the trip and Fsd drove them at speed without crossing over the center median once or giving me an uneasy feeling like 12.5.6 used to do at least twice each way. I will get more seat time this week but I can definitely tell an improvement on everything just the first two drives. It did a couple maneuvers already yesterday evening that were very smooth and decisive that impressed me very much. I can still do some things better, faster, or more courteous for impatient drivers like behavior at stop signs where everyone rolls the stop sign, but fsd makes my commute much more stress free and enjoyable. I help it roll signs where it makes sense and I take over at the very end of the trip to make parking at the office faster but for the vast majority of the drive I’m just an observer listening to music or podcasts and watching the traffic around me.

    • @DerekDavis213
      @DerekDavis213 Місяць тому

      _Fsd 13.2.1 handled them near perfect in low light conditions_
      Near perfect means *not* *perfect* . After 5 years in development, FSD continues t have problems with speed bumps and pot holes and reading simple road signs.

  • @tesla_PNW
    @tesla_PNW Місяць тому +2

    Did a 400-mile round trip from Vancouver WA to Edmonds WA for a Christmas Eve family get-together on v13.2.2. Only 1 disengagement, and that was just before getting home, turning into my neighborhood! It is so amazing with city lane merges and roundabouts, hundreds of miles of I5 including 80mph driving and stop and go driving (in Seattle), then neighborhood driving and errands around Edmonds.
    The disengagement was because the turn into my neighborhood is from a suicide lane where you can turn in both directions. This instead of a dedicated turn lane, and it, for some reason, won't get into the suicide lane to make the turn.
    Silly error by FSD.
    Also rained on the drive home heavily 3 times, and fsd never gave up. It reduced its top available speed during the heavy rains and moved over to the slowest lane, but was able to at least stay at the speed limit. Sped back up again as the rain eased off to full hurry mode speed and performance!
    Biggest things it could improve on are:
    1. Its tendency to stay to the right in the lane. That makes it awfully close to some vehicles on the interstate, including large trucks. we noticed that, in general, for some reason, this version likes to stay a little bit too far right and not be fully centered in the lane.
    2. Recognition of: emergency vehicles and protocol for responding to their presence, school zone signs and context, and then recognition of carpool lanes, and if the number of passengers qualifies for them.

  • @BadL_
    @BadL_ Місяць тому +112

    LETS F*CKING GO, NEW AIDRIVR VIDEO

    • @redcrumb
      @redcrumb Місяць тому

      FSD unsupervised is next year, 2025. SURELY EVERYONE agrees?

  • @paulboyle5794
    @paulboyle5794 Місяць тому +12

    This was one of your very best videos. I loved the fact that you gave us some great examples of challenging situations to illustrate the capability of V13 and your commentary is, I think, the best on UA-cam (sorry DirtyTesla, you are a close 2nd). Keep on doing these, please

  • @nickfosterxx
    @nickfosterxx Місяць тому +3

    17:59 the classic 'oh crap how did I get into this' situation - reckon this will be able to handle London no problem!
    By far the most challenging situations I've seen, thank you, as always.

  • @MH-Tesla
    @MH-Tesla Місяць тому +49

    Not illegal to cross a single solid line. That's just not recommended. It's illegal to cross a double solid white or yellow line.

    • @winnerdanny7
      @winnerdanny7 Місяць тому +12

      depends on state - in NJ it is illegal to cross a single solid line

    • @jlhendricksjr
      @jlhendricksjr Місяць тому +2

      @@winnerdanny7doesn’t that suck.

    • @jlhendricksjr
      @jlhendricksjr Місяць тому +4

      By that I mean the inconsistency of traffic regulations.

    • @ByteSizedSociety
      @ByteSizedSociety Місяць тому

      So the question is, why can't Tesla get these state and local laws right? They're written. Tesla online can probably also read the websites for the state and local traffic regulators.
      So it seems like a bug, another one of those
      .. we call it beta therefore you're at fault issues.

  • @carspn1
    @carspn1 Місяць тому +13

    33:00 the light turned yellow and the car was in the intersection, that felt like the right move from them to clear out. I wonder what FSD would have done

    • @ByteSizedSociety
      @ByteSizedSociety Місяць тому

      Agreed. It seems like the Tesla should not have gone and should have allowed the Hyundai to continue clearing out the intersection.
      I definitely would not have done this. It seems like a violation of traffic rules.

  • @jayhawker2363
    @jayhawker2363 Місяць тому +28

    25:53 What happens when FSD Version 14 comes out and the AI has decided that driving everywhere in reverse is a more agile way to get around town 🤔😂

    • @owenobyrne
      @owenobyrne Місяць тому +7

      That got me thinking - forwards and reverse are only human requirements... Next version of cybercab can be designed without a conventional front and back so it can decide to go either direction.

    • @ByteSizedSociety
      @ByteSizedSociety Місяць тому +1

      Honestly that would be awesome.
      "Honey, I feel like I'm going backwards in my life. Announcer: Well we have a feature for you! Full backwards self-driving!"
      April fool's idea, Tesla. We are watching.

    • @cheburekmaker2973
      @cheburekmaker2973 Місяць тому

      @@owenobyrne that sounds very useful, I wonder if guys at tesla considered this

    • @samskleibrok2023
      @samskleibrok2023 Місяць тому

      ​@@owenobyrneRealistically I don't think that will happen. Mainly since the car will still need good ergodynamics. Additionall most people will want to drive forwards and not go backwards full speed like a roller coaster 😅

    • @owenobyrne
      @owenobyrne Місяць тому

      @samskleibrok2023 True... but then London taxis all have two seats facing backwards, so might not be too unusual...

  • @alexanderkenway
    @alexanderkenway Місяць тому +8

    Nice video. Normal routes are too easy for FSD now so I appreciate seeing videos that pushes its capabilities

  • @GregoryMooreMD
    @GregoryMooreMD Місяць тому +11

    As always, @AIDRIVR I drop everything and watch when your videos drop. Thanks again for great commentary and putting the car in difficult situations. to show off the new abilities of 13.2.! Very much appreciated!

  • @AaronMcFarland
    @AaronMcFarland Місяць тому +38

    Pretty Impressive. I hope we get FSD 13 with the Holiday update for HW4 vehicles.

    • @IDNHANTU2day
      @IDNHANTU2day Місяць тому

      Lucky You. I have a 22 MYP but I have HW3. I have heard I'm at the end of my FSD capability.

    • @Tms02620
      @Tms02620 Місяць тому +2

      Got the holiday update today in my HW4 but no v13 :(

    • @redcrumb
      @redcrumb Місяць тому

      FSD unsupervised is next year, 2025. SURELY EVERYONE agrees?

    • @NassimSYD
      @NassimSYD Місяць тому

      ​@@redcrumb i think Unsupervised could be V14. while V15 will launch with the Cybercab

    • @bearcubdaycare
      @bearcubdaycare Місяць тому

      ​@@redcrumb Surely for level 3 it needs to read most signs, and act (properly) on them. There are so many signs around, with myriad messages, some road signs some not, that getting "please take over immediately" because the car couldn't interpret a sign, could get very old very quickly. Complicated school zone rules, even Road Closed. And know that a Stop Whaling banner isn't a road sign. Nor some sandwich board in front of a store. Unless it is ("take the other driveway to parking"). Short of that, a driver needs to pay attention (level 2, driver assist, i.e. supervised).

  • @Clyde-2055
    @Clyde-2055 Місяць тому +4

    19:00 - Tight maneuvering was excellent. Well done !

  • @DirtyTesla
    @DirtyTesla Місяць тому +55

    "Wow I can't believe you hit the brake for no right on red. I always turn right anyway at those so you should not have intervened"

  • @leobourbonnais
    @leobourbonnais Місяць тому +5

    I agree about the navigation and maps, but as a transportation engineer/researcher analyzing and creating maps everyday (mostly on OpenStreetMap), I can tell you that it is way more difficult to do that. Mapping restrictions like no-turn on red, or no u-turn must be coded consistently and be updated regularly, and this is still labor intensive. Maybe AI will be able to help us in the near future, parsing millions of streetview/car recorded images, but right now, it must be done manually, at least during the validation process.

    • @deondrex18k
      @deondrex18k Місяць тому +1

      Maybe have a camera that read all signs and register them automatically

  • @BerntGranbacke
    @BerntGranbacke Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for demonstrating just how narrow a space the car can navigate without sustaining any damage.

  • @ericdepangher7547
    @ericdepangher7547 Місяць тому +1

    The garage that my apartment complex dumps out to is a one way street with very low visibility due to parked cars. So I started sometime around when the repeater camera comes up when you use your signal to use it to peak around the cars as I try to get out. It has made it so much easier, and no reason FSD couldn’t do better than me at it.

  • @CappinCronch
    @CappinCronch Місяць тому +3

    I've watched a ton of your videos and it's amazing to see how far FSD has come over the past couple of years. I will say though, you need to do some FSD content in rural areas or places with fewer Teslas. I got mine a couple months ago and it does some really wacky things where I live in southern Indiana. I think all of the training it gets in CA gives you a totally different experience than what those in the South or the Midwest experience with FSD. Picking the wrong lanes, swerving into traffic, stopping at green lights in 55 MPH zones for no reason... it's weird it happens so often in my experience but I haven't seen that kind of stuff at all in your recent videos.

    • @leofreese1
      @leofreese1 Місяць тому

      Maybe it’s a v12 thing

    • @bearcubdaycare
      @bearcubdaycare Місяць тому

      I saw a lot of that too. It was reduced in the latest version, but not gone.
      Dirty Tesla has some videos on more rural roads. I meant to record and post some videos of the weird stuff, but the Amazon order for the gear was never delivered, and I had to cancel it, and never bothered reordering.

  • @kylecoolky1189
    @kylecoolky1189 Місяць тому +1

    At 13:30, there was quite a big difference between the Waymo stopping and FSD stopping. For the Waymo, it had a million years to go and stopped for people stepping onto the road from its left, the other side of the street. For FSD, it had to stop for people that stepped directly in front of it from the right.

  • @TeslaTechNow
    @TeslaTechNow Місяць тому +4

    10:20 I have 2024 m3 on HW4, but no FSD v13. I think only the original Beta testers are getting it. I'm on FSD v12.5.6.4 now though. Great video keepem coming!

  • @marklefler4007
    @marklefler4007 Місяць тому +1

    Great video. Thanks for giving FSD so many challenging situations.

  • @MiamiV14
    @MiamiV14 Місяць тому +1

    You're honestly giving a lot of people a great first way to learn how to drive. Very informative and smooth. Great videos, sir! Elon would be absolutely proud!

  • @davidb2885
    @davidb2885 Місяць тому +59

    Letting the pedestrians pass the crosswalk was a must! Standing on the intersection is secondary.

    • @chriso5842
      @chriso5842 Місяць тому +6

      Yeah, that seemed fine to me.

    • @ernestcarpentier
      @ernestcarpentier Місяць тому +14

      Yes I found it very weird what he said, pedestrians at a crosswalk have priority PERIOD. No matter what, the car must stop. If the car would've continued trough it would be a dangerous situation and he would be liable.
      EDIT: at around 28:06 the car just plainly cuts off the pedestrians on the crosswalk, in Belgium that would've definitely gotten you a very dirty look, I don't know if pedestrians in the US are just used to this kind of behaviour?

    • @ydobemos
      @ydobemos Місяць тому +5

      @@ernestcarpentier Yes, we are

    • @Scn64
      @Scn64 Місяць тому +4

      @@ernestcarpentier In any of the big US cities, yes, people pretty much expect cars to push through the crosswalk (slowly) even though it's technically illegal. Heck, I've seen cop cars doing it, lol.

    • @redcrumb
      @redcrumb Місяць тому

      FSD unsupervised is next year, 2025. SURELY EVERYONE agrees?

  • @ml00000
    @ml00000 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @oakfieldfarm4131
    @oakfieldfarm4131 Місяць тому +2

    Great test. Most humans from out of town would have struggled with that. It’s not there yet but it’s getting very close :)

  • @lshxggyl
    @lshxggyl Місяць тому +2

    What a time to be alive, holy shit. Love your videos, please stick around here, we love you!!!

  • @PhamTriPhoto
    @PhamTriPhoto Місяць тому +1

    That Pier 39 sequemce blew me away. Thanks for taking us along the ride JD!!

  • @MusicalMemeology
    @MusicalMemeology Місяць тому +6

    TBF Google and Apple navigation regularly tell me to do illegal turns it’s a common problem.

  • @cellocraze
    @cellocraze Місяць тому +6

    That was an insane drive. Your car must hate you.

    • @nickfosterxx
      @nickfosterxx Місяць тому

      I actually laughed out loud, thank you

    • @nickfosterxx
      @nickfosterxx Місяць тому

      I actually laughed out loud, thank you

  • @DominicBRNKMN
    @DominicBRNKMN Місяць тому

    08:50 - I've visited LA and SF in June and it's so cool to see recognise these places in your videos, now that I've been there. Even cooler to see FSD navigate through them.
    Great video as always ✌🏼

  • @AVerySmallTinyMinisculeH-bc1lv
    @AVerySmallTinyMinisculeH-bc1lv Місяць тому +5

    An in-house mapping service wouldn’t solve issues like this unless the fleet can recognize these signs and update the map. Humans can’t see turn restrictions from satellite view unless there are painted arrows and even then sometimes vehicles or shadows will obscure the arrows. FSD will have to recognize signs like no left turn or no turn on red.

    • @graemeesmith
      @graemeesmith Місяць тому

      Sure, that's exactly what they should do. Recognizing basics signs, like no turn on red, do not enter, one-way street, etc with computer vision is very doable technology wise nowdays (maybe not patent wise). They could definitely run that inference on the car.

  • @NaughtyGoatFarm
    @NaughtyGoatFarm Місяць тому +30

    24:12 Valet realising that this technology will end his career...

  • @BENShighland
    @BENShighland Місяць тому +19

    2 videos in one week, Christmas came early!!!!!

    • @redcrumb
      @redcrumb Місяць тому

      FSD unsupervised is next year, 2025. SURELY EVERYONE agrees?

  • @harrysworld1172
    @harrysworld1172 Місяць тому +3

    10:19 There should also be a right turn blinker at the roundabout for the cars opposite you, entering the roundabout.

  • @farmerinchico
    @farmerinchico Місяць тому +2

    There is always someone that throws out the "unsafe driver" statement whenever FSD sees something the driver didn't. It is a subtle way of switching the achievement of FSD to the incompetent driver.

  • @chrisp1336
    @chrisp1336 Місяць тому +3

    Would love to see you in faster moving traffic. You show the outstanding slower, less traffic environments. Maybe get to some busier, faster traffic environments. Thanks for what you do.

  • @iowa_don
    @iowa_don Місяць тому +6

    5:15 - But is it a "mapping" error or is it that the car cannot read those signs? I go back and forth on that issue. Sometimes it seems like it can read signs and at other times it completely ignores signs.
    Tesla maps?? Maybe in many places, but I'm sure there are a lot of roads in the U.S. that no Tesla has yet driven.

    • @TheSpartan3669
      @TheSpartan3669 Місяць тому +2

      It can't

    • @iilwy
      @iilwy Місяць тому

      probably a mixture of both. i think it seems like sometimes it can read the signs if it's clear enough to the cameras but if it can't read it or it isn't sure, it also feels feels like it's trusting the map navigation to be correct

  • @FutureSystem738
    @FutureSystem738 Місяць тому +1

    Great work, as always. I really enjoy your videos, and really enjoy the progress happening with FSD. I just want to see it come to other markets, like here in Oz. 🇦🇺
    Anyway, thanks again and keep ‘em coming.

  • @Saltbearer
    @Saltbearer Місяць тому +2

    I would not have let it get so close the boom gate at the end, you got some courage mate!

  • @Tnjay55566
    @Tnjay55566 Місяць тому +2

    Wow that looks really good. Nav
    Is an easy problem to solve compared to what they’ve already done. Incredible

  • @ch4.hayabusa
    @ch4.hayabusa Місяць тому +3

    15:40 He was wearing faded paint pants with a garbage can black hoodie. Great image to put on a driving test, “How many pedestrians are waiting to cross the intersection?”

  • @LeesReviews69
    @LeesReviews69 Місяць тому +1

    I’ve never rewinded your videos so many times before, and I’ve never shared your video as much as I have tonight

  • @Muffinman9
    @Muffinman9 Місяць тому +5

    12:28 i think the car to the left continued forward because they noticed you weren't going, even though the car across from you was going straight. In situations like that, it would be more human-like for FSD to notice that the car across from you is going straight and for it to continue before that car to the left even had a chance to go.

    • @ByteSizedSociety
      @ByteSizedSociety Місяць тому

      But isn't it not the rules?
      I thought the rules were blend of you know whoever has the opportunity, combined with a clock metaphor. A clock hand spins around and so whenever it goes to the different cardinal direction it's that car's turn to enter the intersection.

  • @shocktreatmentgaming
    @shocktreatmentgaming Місяць тому +6

    12:50. People crossing the crosswalk trusting that two self driving cars don't hit them.

    • @BigBen621
      @BigBen621 Місяць тому +4

      They're much more likely to be hit by human-driven cars, than self-driving cars.

    • @shocktreatmentgaming
      @shocktreatmentgaming Місяць тому +1

      @@BigBen621 Oh yes for sure. Self driving cars are a ton safer.

    • @BigBen621
      @BigBen621 Місяць тому

      ​@shocktreatmentgaming Sarcasm-got it. But let me tell you why you're actually correct. Of course you won't believe it, because I can already tell you're not the sort to allow actual facts to dissuade you from your preconceived and baseless notions.
      You and your FUD-spreading ilk seem blissfully unaware that human drivers kill >42,000 of our friends, neighbors and loved ones each and every year, in the U.S. alone. These deaths are mostly caused by dangerous behavior, including texting while driving; other distracted driving; drunk and drug-impaired driving; road rage; fatigue; falling asleep at the wheel; medical emergencies; running red/yellow lights and stop signs; wrong-way driving; following too closely; unsafe lane changes; speeding; street racing; reckless driving; loss of control; and probably several other categories I haven't thought of. FSD and other ADASs and ADSs rarely if ever exhibit *any* of these behaviors; yet your crowd seems unwilling to consider even the possibility that widespread adoption of FSD or its counterparts might actually reduce the loss of lives and property by virtually eliminating all of these dangerous behaviors. And it might be one of your friends, neighbors or loved ones whose life would be saved as a result.

  • @andik2329
    @andik2329 Місяць тому +4

    The car needs to be able to read more traffic signs and prioritize them over the navigational route and then could update the navigation software on the fly. And when you or any other Tesla drives the same route again it shouldn't even offer the "wrong" route. So using it's cars Tesla could easily update the navigation software countrywide in almost realtime. Nobody else can do this.

    • @Wolfen13c
      @Wolfen13c Місяць тому

      Someday cars will understand the context of everything around them and communicate with each other knowing the situation kilometers ahead. But this still requires a lot of resources, development and time

  • @TheRobertlonski
    @TheRobertlonski Місяць тому +5

    OUTSTANDING FSD Video!!! I really like the downtown San Francisco drives -- they really show how good FSD is and at the same time point-out areas needing improvement. Before FSD I thought AI was BS and only another fancy name for optimized database lookups. FSD is showing us what AI is and how 'human like' it is FSD may be ELON's corner-stone accomplishment.

    • @redcrumb
      @redcrumb Місяць тому

      definitely a great place to test FSD, especially this amazing version that can do with more challenges. FSD unsupervised is next year, 2025. SURELY EVERYONE agrees?

  • @jan1jan2jan
    @jan1jan2jan Місяць тому +8

    Very impressive, once again! I’ve been bullish on TSLA for a long time, but right now, I feel hyped. It feels a bit weird to say that, but it’s just true-and not just because of the jump in the stock price. The future for Tesla, whether it’s vehicles, energy, FSD, or Optimus, all seems extremely exciting to me.

    • @leuvenfra
      @leuvenfra Місяць тому +2

      Optimus? Seriously? If you're interested in robotics, there are many legit companies out there that do not lie about their robots.

    • @jan1jan2jan
      @jan1jan2jan Місяць тому +1

      @@leuvenfra 🤣🤣🤣

    • @jayakrishnankr7501
      @jayakrishnankr7501 Місяць тому +1

      @@leuvenfra Many people said the same thing about every single thing Tesla did.

    • @redcrumb
      @redcrumb Місяць тому

      @@leuvenfra u serious? who else have optimus hands?

    • @redcrumb
      @redcrumb Місяць тому

      FSD unsupervised is next year, 2025. SURELY EVERYONE agrees?

  • @aarontempleton2735
    @aarontempleton2735 Місяць тому +1

    I’ve felt the needed to have their own map annotation for some time. Especially since 12.5. 90% of my disengagements are due to bad routes. Like taking the “shortest” path to an unprotected left into a major 4 lane road when one street over has a stoplight. Could also annotate for bad visibility at intersections to make them less preferred in planning.

  • @michaelbredimus4407
    @michaelbredimus4407 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for always providing us with such quality content. Patiently waiting for V13. Got excited yesterday when my update icon appeared but it was just 12.5.6.4.

  • @pwells2389
    @pwells2389 Місяць тому

    What a drive!!! I would have been so stressed by many of the situations you dumped Ego into. It really does look like FSD may well be unsupervisable by the end of 2025 if not quite a bit earlier. Thanks for your superb efforts once again AID.

  • @frankandriano2351
    @frankandriano2351 Місяць тому

    Have been watching you post for a year. I’ve able to have my model y not have issues with 25 mph speed limit. I have following setting in FSD - set the max offset to the a desired % over speed limit - turn off speed limit warning - turn off Obstacle-Aware Acceleration.

  • @JasonElrick
    @JasonElrick Місяць тому

    You're 100% right on the navigation. I've had it try to make a right turn and then a uturn when I could've just made a left at the light it was at.

  • @jasonpanosh9579
    @jasonpanosh9579 Місяць тому +1

    I don't think Tesla necessarily needs an in-house mapping system, but what they definitely need is a mapping service that allows them to update with relevant information (and honestly that would be amazing if they aren't partnered in that way) but most importantly they need the resources to identify and actually update such data. They really miss the mark on customer feedback, fleet wide feedback, basically any form of feedback that would result in quantifiable improvement. In my country it took 2yrs to get a speed limit change, and when it's a reduction in speed that's just too long. I have a new roundabout the system doesn't even try to slow down for even though it clearly is displayed on both navigation view and satellite view. You just can be credible that their RoboCab can be a reality when these basics are so poor.

  • @shamasis.bhattacharya
    @shamasis.bhattacharya Місяць тому +1

    Great video. Nowadays I just watch them to reminisce my days in the city with friends. Regarding the reactionary behaviour to the lights and hand gesture, I would love to one day have Tesla react to someone flipping the bird!

  • @StrombockNino
    @StrombockNino 16 днів тому

    Again, awesome video, I do like your style SO much!!
    FSD is truly amazing, mind-blowing and impressive. I wish Europe could get it.

  • @Devilstower
    @Devilstower Місяць тому +1

    I’m still seeing horrific behavior with closed lanes. The car goes by a sign announcing the right lane is closed ahead without notice. Then it blows past a blinking arrow pointing left. Even with every other car on the road shifted left, my Model 3 hugs the cones in the right lane, not even starting to move until the cones impinge almost to the midlane. This repeatedly means the car crowds drivers on the left or ends up slamming the brakes, stuck at the cones and waiting for an opening

  • @marksinclair701
    @marksinclair701 Місяць тому

    Wow, reversing is huge, amazing progress.
    BTW, you can hit Vermont Street instead of Lombard for the windiest street test. Same deal fewer tourists. No need to add to that whole nightmare.

  • @matthew_torres
    @matthew_torres Місяць тому +2

    Did you get any testing footage today of FSD in the rain? I think this is major concern for folks worried about cameras only.

  • @Paul13013
    @Paul13013 Місяць тому +1

    Question: Couldn't you have used the turn signal to change the route to get on Lombard St instead of disengaging?
    This mostly works on AI3 M3 and Cybertruck. Although, one time on Cybertruck it got indecisive about whether to take the turn or use the crosswalk as a lane. I only allowed it a second before taking over as there was a left turning car dividing either route and I had passengers. 😢

  • @whatdrivesyou6798
    @whatdrivesyou6798 Місяць тому

    Wow, you really put the car through its paces! There were multiple places I probably would not have tried to drive myself

  • @MyPapagio
    @MyPapagio Місяць тому +1

    20:40 Do you know you don't have to disengage on this route change? All you had to do was click end trip then press your right turn signal, fsd would have turned right for you. And actually, you don't even have to hit end trip, just turn on your turn signal and it will turn and reroute after the turn. I use my turn signal to reroute FSD all the time.

  • @folwr3653
    @folwr3653 Місяць тому

    Completely agree with the navigation issues. There are way to many ghostly speed changes (remains from earlier road maintenance) that very annoying when they are not fixed for over a year.

  • @futureisnow1005
    @futureisnow1005 Місяць тому +1

    This is amazing! Posting everywhere!

  • @JSeds
    @JSeds Місяць тому +1

    Boston has some of the most complex streets around, and I can attest that nav is the biggest issue.

  • @floxer
    @floxer Місяць тому +33

    1:15 That sudden shake actually scared the shit out of me lol

    • @LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS
      @LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS Місяць тому +3

      You’re jumpy!

    • @shamasis.bhattacharya
      @shamasis.bhattacharya Місяць тому +2

      Me too. And true I am very jumpy these days

    • @leeroymlg4692
      @leeroymlg4692 Місяць тому +1

      That's pretty weird

    • @EdwardMillen
      @EdwardMillen Місяць тому +2

      I know what you mean, with the noise it made as well, I thought the car had hit/scraped something! Had to skip back and watch it again to realise it was just a bump lol

  • @ReDiiKuLuS
    @ReDiiKuLuS Місяць тому

    I am sure I'm not the only one but I'd still love to see FSD videos from you even in 100% interventionless drives. I am just fascinated with this technology and Tesla is the ONLY company doing it at this scale with the data they possess. Cheers!

  • @rmkep
    @rmkep Місяць тому +1

    Your FSD drives are the best available evidence of the progress the Tesla FSD team is making. Being that I have a HW3 car running ver 12.5.4.2, I find edge cases with just about every drive. I'm hoping that a version 13 is available soon for HW3 cars and/or they figure out a way to do the hardware upgraded that Elon promised.

    • @jessiejanson1528
      @jessiejanson1528 Місяць тому

      As an expert in AI, v13 is never coming to hw3. V13 has larger NN models that simply won't fit in hw3, plus the new features which also take up room. V13 also uses higher res camera input to see clearer and further. One of the updates is likely more parallel processing which decreases reaction speed by 50%. Something else that's interesting is that a NNs ability grows linearly with its size, so these new NNs have a lot of potential and all of this is why v13 is much better.
      That said, I expect Tesla will hold off any announcements until v13 is complete, once it is complete they will know if v13 is good enough for robotaxi. If it is they will start making hw4 retrofits available for hw3, if hw4 isn't enough then you may have to wait for hw5. I expect hw4 will be good enough.

  • @richarda3659
    @richarda3659 Місяць тому +1

    Great video. Just wanted to point out that the streetcar that turned in front of you at around 22:25 was NOT in any way "from the 80s". Maybe you're some sort of Millennial that doesn't have much of a concept of the past, but things were actually pretty modern in the 80s in terms of design. That streetcar you saw was actually a restored classic streetcar from the FORTIES, maybe the 50s, but no newer. The streetcars in SF were in fact all modernized and replaced in the 70s with cars that look not unlike the newest ones. Eighties, really?😆😆😆

  • @formytots0128
    @formytots0128 Місяць тому

    Great video highlighting the amazing performance of FSD V13.x. So much improvement !!!! Thanks for posting JD. :)

  • @Greg-R
    @Greg-R Місяць тому

    V13 looks like a good improvement.
    Three things that will make a big difference:
    1. Reading and reacting to street signs
    2. Better Nav/HD Maps
    3. Better decision making in slow areas at the end of your route in order to find parking.
    I think HD maps will be important for unsupervised FSD. But my concern is past comments from Tesla on not wanting to invest/implement in HD Maps/Geofencing. As mentioned in the video. If Tesla created a system to collect high quality map data from the fleet it could map the most complex and populous area extremely quickly. I hope they can better take advantage of having a fleet or cars with cameras in all directions to make the ultimate Nav/Mapping system. I think this is key to get to Unsupervised.
    Things like poor visibility due to extreme weather or terrible glare from direct b

  • @FredTaxAide
    @FredTaxAide Місяць тому

    What a great stress test! FSD 3.2 did some amazing things. Unfortunately, it still can't do one of driving's most basic tasks - recognizing street signs. It ignored no U turn and no right turn on red signs. It ran through a stop sign. The driver downplayed the stop sign but a human driver would know it was a stop sign and I feel the driver should have disengaged. If you can please test "Do Not Enter" (failed in FSD 12) and a flashing school zone sign.

  • @ubbeats98
    @ubbeats98 16 днів тому

    I’ve been visiting this channel almost everyday since this video came out to check on updates. Where are u man? This is important

  • @jordanschultz2232
    @jordanschultz2232 Місяць тому +1

    Epic. That round about decision time was wild

  • @michaelbalty2750
    @michaelbalty2750 Місяць тому

    0:59 Not only do I see people struggle getting in and out of this SC, but the number of drivers driving up to the charger directly to your right, only to find out that the person behind them took the charger is exponential!

  • @hsiaohu2959
    @hsiaohu2959 Місяць тому +2

    I also find that navigation/mapping is the weakest point. I have a hypothesis as to why, but what why do you think that's the case?

  • @ml00000
    @ml00000 Місяць тому

    You’ll always be relevant! Your videos and analysis gives us the confidence and knowledge of what FSD can do!

  • @Haffy1952
    @Haffy1952 Місяць тому +1

    So hoping to see others who are using this new version in the snow belt of the West and NE.

  • @xpumpkinwarrior3451
    @xpumpkinwarrior3451 Місяць тому +1

    is the camera a drone following the car? is the camera attached to the car? I dont see the camera stick

  • @robkeshav800
    @robkeshav800 Місяць тому +1

    Great video and narration as always. Why is V13.2 not released to all AI4 MYs?

  • @Tenniszogger
    @Tenniszogger Місяць тому +1

    Another scenario to Test: how are 3point turns working in rain? Often the backup cam is Dirty as hell

  • @gibbooz
    @gibbooz Місяць тому

    Loved that you put the car in awkward situations and you commentary.

  • @davidkendall2272
    @davidkendall2272 Місяць тому

    Fantastic narrative of your V13 driving experience. Excellent review!

  • @BobbieGWhiz
    @BobbieGWhiz Місяць тому

    Nice to see that the issues that you are showing are ones that I was experiencing regularly.

  • @bergonius
    @bergonius Місяць тому

    This was the most stressful stress test I've seen. Incredible how well and consistent the car has handled all of it. What a time to be alive!

    • @DerekDavis213
      @DerekDavis213 Місяць тому

      Yes, such an exciting time to be alive: software that's been in development for 5 years still requires *100* *percent* human supervision at all times.

  • @realulli
    @realulli Місяць тому

    I used to dislike the way the car parallel parked in the past ("very American"), over a foot away from the curb. I live in Germany, here that distance would get me a ticket.
    Last weekend, with the Holiday Update, I tried again. It parked, rather carefully, and ended up about an inch from the curb. Very impressive!

  • @klasdillon
    @klasdillon Місяць тому +1

    Love these V13 videos. Please keep em comin

  • @jamesdemayo6283
    @jamesdemayo6283 Місяць тому

    All the other car companies are trying to make electric work in order to catch up to Tesla. The problem is Tesla made electric work over 10 years ago and is really now a self driving car. Now when buying a new car you have to ask.. "Can this car just drive itself?" No other feature will matter.

  • @Noaixs
    @Noaixs Місяць тому

    So it makes sense that the Robotaxi is not so big 19:00 so that it can manoeuvre more easily in such places. Thanks for testing always this narrow roads for us European ppl.

  • @LeesReviews69
    @LeesReviews69 Місяць тому +4

    I hope Dirty Tesla and Chuck Cook adopt your awkward maneuvers stat in their videos

  • @metalfield1
    @metalfield1 Місяць тому +1

    It would be nice to see how weather affects this, during my trial of v12 with light rain it started driving on the wrong side of the road into incoming traffic

  • @MajorPickleSwag
    @MajorPickleSwag Місяць тому

    This really is the best one yet. I hope it continues to get better.