Bought a BMCC MFT almost three years ago. It’s a camera of many compromises but it’s fantastic and I won’t be selling it. It still excites and inspires me to use and I LOVE how simple it is. Great to see such a recent video about it.
Awesome man. Let me know how you solve the battery attachment issue. I should really buy a v-mount clamp or something. Good luck bro. You owe me a pizza! 🍕🍕🍕🍕
Till now?? How's that holding up? Can you show me some of he weddings you've done with it? Is it your A cam or B cam? Plus the footage sizes? How do you manage that? I'm considering this camera, so I'd like to know!
I own a pk 4K and absolutely loved it, however there is something very distinctive about the look of the 2.5K which is hard to describe. I guess the Cinema DNG makes a big difference. Nice footage!
Thanks! From reading countless forums and opinions, BM use different sensors now compared to the original BMCC. They definitely nailed it first time with the BMCC2.5k
Man i found your video while trying to find crane 2s bmpcc4k vids, but those shots at the beginning were just magical, amazing work! You are very talented, subscribed and liked! :)
Hey.. Hey.. I just Got the Crane 2s.. and i have a Used... BMPcc 4k UHD Global Shutter.. and other Cameras... how are you doing with your equipment... i am interested to see what you have produced...
Just got the BMCC & the crane 2 with the followfocus (which I supposed I can use it only manually). Your video is quality and full of ressources thank you
Guys if like the look of bmcc 2.5k, buy sigma fp is almost indetical sometimes can't see the difference. You get full frame or 35mm 4k in cinema dng files. Yes there is something about dng format it gets you all information from sensor. I love it 😍😍😍
I still love my Production 4K. That cam had so much flack but after seeing the pock 4K footage which I own, and the pocket 6K (don't own) I think the Production 4K has some character, maybe not as much as the 2.5k but I still love it. The Ursa mini in the other had has nice character.
@@cineline6531 Yes it does. There are lot's of people whom know these cameras will tell you that. Only reason I went for the 4K was because of the resolution and that obviously beats the 2.5k. But when I received my production 4K I then realised the organic look/ character difference. But ai still love my BMPC4K.
The BMCC 2.5k is better than the 4k production in several ways but especially in that the 4k loses a stop in dinamic range and the problem with the sunholes, I have these blackmagic cameras and I have done tests with all, the best cinematographic version is the 2.5k and the more versatile the pocket 4k but very diferents
The 2.5k is amazing. I have an og bmpcc, and a micro, and colorwise and overall image seems about the same on all 3 BUT, the 2.5k is cleaner and has less artifacting. I shoot raw on all of them, and love them, but the 2.5 with the cleaner image and sdi out, just feels like a more proper camera for narrative stuff. Plus it just looks so cool lol
The 0.64x is actually wider field of view than the 0.71x! It's a backwards calculation, the further you get UNDER 1.0x the larger the field of view. E.g: 24mm x 0.71 = 17.04 24mm x 0.64 = 15.36 etc..... ua-cam.com/video/uKvPdSg-Yss/v-deo.html
the image coming from this is 5000% better than all videoish hybrid 4K, 6K, 8K cameras out there! Its actually up there with the best real cinema cams like the Alexas etc. Sony A7sIII, R5, S1H does not even come close with their flat, thin, , oversharpened, contrasty, overresoluted, underlatituded, plastic looks.... BM should team up with fairchild again :-)
Hey I just recently bought a pocket 4k and I'm looking at the crane 2. I was also going to get a used vest and spring arm to bolt the gimbal to for those long shoots. Have you considered using a spring arm and vest, you could mount the V lock to the vest or another part of the rig. I'll probably be doing another montage around the river Thames within the next few weeks, I'm looking to get the crane 2 gimbal on boxing day or monday😂..... Can't wait
Friend, a question which stabilizer would you recommend for the bmcc 2.5k, I have the weebill s but I don't know if it is recommended, which one do you recommend that is not so expensive?
@@GRTHK Thank you very much friend little by little I have been learning some things by watching your videos, I have only had the bmcc for a week since the Viltrox focal reducer arrived, I did some tests but when I place the SSD disk to the PC I get folders with images as I would do for edit because I don't understand the files like that on the SSD disk. Do you have any video tutorial on that?
@@accionarteslaverde Using DaVinci Resolve, You need to select 'sequence' in frame display. It's due to the nature of Cinemadng files ua-cam.com/video/VYwQGtp9pM8/v-deo.html
Shoot your own footage, sir! Any camera. A huge part is where to put the camera. What light. What lens etc.. Using my footage won't teach you anything. Buy a BMCC. These cameras are cheap. Learn how to be a fisherman, don't ask for free fish 👊
I've been consistently leaning to edit for the past 2 years now. Just looking to buy my fist camera. Can afford all the bells and whistles I want. The messed up thing is: after watching hours and hours of reviews of Reds and BM6Pro's I still find this particular look, this particular softness and color more appealing for some reason. I think I'll buy 10 year old camera just for that and then move on to maybe smth like Ursa mini with an old sensor. Am I crazy or what? Lol
Just sold an expensive Sony, very good for the market they made for, but unfortunately cannot tolerate the codec. Purchased, during a period of 6 months, bmpcc og, Ursa mini 4.6k & bmpcc 4K with lens each and in mint condition. The og and Ursa 4.6 record CDNG lossless internally and I’m trying to downgrade the bmpcc 4K to firmware 5.1 to move that from braw to CDNG raw. Three cameras and I have change to spare from a7s3 (yes waiting on eBay pays off) looking to get some lights with money I’ve got left. I’ve got the Ursa on a shoulder rig but looking at zhiyun crane 3s with steadiwest and the bmpcc 4K is on a zhiyun weebill s and I’ve been able to balance the bmpcc og on a zhiyun crane m2, the latter with the gimbal fits in my coat pocket, NEVER imagined that CDNG with the look and feel this little gem gives is indescribable. These cameras are amazing.
Amazing footage bro im so curious to what codec you film in dng or raw it looks so nice imagine this on the ursa 12k same shot but i like the 2.5 cause i originally used this when it 1st came out many years ago but only for a few shots
BMCC shoots CinemaDNG, which is raw! I think the last firmware updates years ago changed the codec to a smaller raw file, but that was before I owned mine. Basically it has DNG 2.5k or ProRes HD. I always use the DNG.
@@GRTHK no way 😂 so how did you slo the footage down or did you shoot slo with gimbal moving slo ? No way is that 25fps ? It looks like 120 fps but clean
There's a Zhiyun follow focus motor, sold separately www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1389924-REG/zhiyun_tech_gmb_c525_servo_follow_focus_mechanical.html
Hey Gareth, I really like your image style, would you allow me to use some of your footage as a sample of this camera in my social networks?, for my colleagues in Latin America, this camera is undervalued
@@GRTHK thanks bro, i have the same camera and it´s fantastic, cinematic as hell, It is the closest to celluloid, very different from my pocket 4k or other cameras that I have, This video inspired me to do a test in my city, I'll send it to you
You can put the V-Mount Battery in your back or clip it to your belt while shooting and run a flex cable to your camera/gimbal. I don't know why people just don't do that?
That's true. It can cause the gimbal to pull to one side or have its movement compromised, depending on how powerful / big your gimbal is. Handheld for sure it's an option.
Is the rolling shutter a problem?? I'm torn between this camera and the bmpc4k (Because of it's global shutter). But from my research so far, the BMCC just has a better image and dynamic range. So how's the rolling shutter?
I don't think the new or original pocket 4k has global shutter? The BMCC Production 4k has a global shutter, but apparently isn't a great image. Anyway, never noticed it on the BMCC 2.5k - Unless you're waving the camera around side to side you won't see it.
The SDI module from Atomos IS THE SPECIAL ADAPTER! It's around £190 in UK. There is a Blackmagic SDI In / HDMI Out converter that's around £60? I did use that on BMCC before I got the AtomX SDI
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Bought a BMCC MFT almost three years ago. It’s a camera of many compromises but it’s fantastic and I won’t be selling it. It still excites and inspires me to use and I LOVE how simple it is. Great to see such a recent video about it.
Still a great camera
Recently purchased a Crane 2 to go with my beloved 2.5k thanks to your episode. Well worth it
Awesome man. Let me know how you solve the battery attachment issue. I should really buy a v-mount clamp or something.
Good luck bro. You owe me a pizza! 🍕🍕🍕🍕
YOU HAVE MADE ME A BELIEVER!
Best sensor they ever used.. Looks better than my bmpc 4k..
I agree.. the 2.5k was perfect resolution for that sensor Man they need to bring it back!!
Better then the original?
Great shoots, texture, feel... great talent here
Graaacias señor
So nice color grading! ♥️ LOVE IT! Im big fun of BM cameras.
I have the Production 4K PL mount. Fantastic, and the global shutter just cinches the deal. Unbelievable camera to this day.
My wife and I still use this camera and our Blackmagic Production Camera 4k for weddings. Its awesome. I don't think I'll ever get rid of it👍🏽
Till now?? How's that holding up? Can you show me some of he weddings you've done with it? Is it your A cam or B cam? Plus the footage sizes? How do you manage that?
I'm considering this camera, so I'd like to know!
I own a pk 4K and absolutely loved it, however there is something very distinctive about the look of the 2.5K which is hard to describe. I guess the Cinema DNG makes a big difference. Nice footage!
Thanks! From reading countless forums and opinions, BM use different sensors now compared to the original BMCC. They definitely nailed it first time with the BMCC2.5k
It's not the DNG, it's the sensor, they used the Fairchild sensor which was in some of the Alexa cameras.
I shot this with the Production 4K. Came close to what I was looking for.
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Man i found your video while trying to find crane 2s bmpcc4k vids, but those shots at the beginning were just magical, amazing work! You are very talented, subscribed and liked! :)
Thanks man!
Hey.. Hey.. I just Got the Crane 2s.. and i have a Used... BMPcc 4k UHD Global Shutter.. and other Cameras...
how are you doing with your equipment... i am interested to see what you have produced...
I just ordered one today. Thanks for reminding me how wonderful this sensor is.
The classic Fairchild sensor! Enjoy...
Hi Gareth ! thank you for this vidéo ! You did a really good job ! i'm really interested by this camera !
BMCC is a hidden gem! 💎
This resolution, this sensor, BMPCC OG form factor with updated screen, menu and recording media, slightly better battery. I am sold.
Thank you
Just got the BMCC & the crane 2 with the followfocus (which I supposed I can use it only manually). Your video is quality and full of ressources thank you
Guys if like the look of bmcc 2.5k, buy sigma fp is almost indetical sometimes can't see the difference. You get full frame or 35mm 4k in cinema dng files. Yes there is something about dng format it gets you all information from sensor. I love it 😍😍😍
Good work man! Im also still rocking the blackmagic production 4k and im still so happy owning one
I still love my Production 4K. That cam had so much flack but after seeing the pock 4K footage which I own, and the pocket 6K (don't own) I think the Production 4K has some character, maybe not as much as the 2.5k but I still love it. The Ursa mini in the other had has nice character.
@@Scope25 does the 2.5k version has more character in your opinion compared to the 4k version?
@@cineline6531 Yes it does. There are lot's of people whom know these cameras will tell you that. Only reason I went for the 4K was because of the resolution and that obviously beats the 2.5k. But when I received my production 4K I then realised the organic look/ character difference. But ai still love my BMPC4K.
@@Scope25 allrightt interesting!. What in the 2.5K look do you like over the 4k?
The BMCC 2.5k is better than the 4k production in several ways but especially in that the 4k loses a stop in dinamic range and the problem with the sunholes, I have these blackmagic cameras and I have done tests with all, the best cinematographic version is the 2.5k and the more versatile the pocket 4k but very diferents
Amazing shots it looks like a Chris Nolan movie!
Nolan shot TENET on the BMCC 💯
Great shots, Gareth!
Thanks Willem!
I've seriously considered picking one of these up. I think your videos have convinced me 😀
Incredible value these days if you can find one on eBay. No other camera around $500 comes anywhere near it.
Amazing how their first camera still has the best image.
It still occupies its own little corner in terms of image and price. That's what I love about it.
The 2.5k is amazing. I have an og bmpcc, and a micro, and colorwise and overall image seems about the same on all 3 BUT, the 2.5k is cleaner and has less artifacting. I shoot raw on all of them, and love them, but the 2.5 with the cleaner image and sdi out, just feels like a more proper camera for narrative stuff. Plus it just looks so cool lol
100% - Underrated and overlooked!
@@GRTHK 100%. Great videos btw, love the content you put out. Gives a real feel of what the camera is meant to do. Great stuff.
The original blackmagic pocket seems to have a smaller matrix, right? And it gives out about the same picture as 2.5?
@@romblik6005 in terms of color and texture very similar, but the 2.5 is cleaner as long as you dont underexpose. Less artifacting too.
@@jdsmedia thanks for answer!
Love your colour grading....
Thank you for sharing this - so helpful right now.
My old work place building on the left at 3:02. Nice review.
No, no, no. The name says it all. It is black magic. What you did with colours is black magic. You really deserve 10000x more views.
Thanks man. Credit To the BMCC
@@GRTHK credit to you bro. I own BMCC myself and I know what you can do with that beast if you're capable enough.
Love your videos question you mention you used Metabones Speedbooster 0.64x why not their new 0.71x ?
The 0.64x is actually wider field of view than the 0.71x! It's a backwards calculation, the further you get UNDER 1.0x the larger the field of view. E.g:
24mm x 0.71 = 17.04
24mm x 0.64 = 15.36
etc.....
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Watching this on a 4K tv, looks really good mate.
Looks like Joker
Splendid! loving it! Way to go!
Damn this footage is awesome!
This is why I subscribe to your channel
the image coming from this is 5000% better than all videoish hybrid 4K, 6K, 8K cameras out there! Its actually up there with the best real cinema cams like the Alexas etc. Sony A7sIII, R5, S1H does not even come close with their flat, thin, , oversharpened, contrasty, overresoluted, underlatituded, plastic looks.... BM should team up with fairchild again :-)
Definitely a nicer aesthetic than a lot of modern DSLRs. Totally agree.
I'm still loving my original Blackmagic. I have the Ronin-M
Tutorial of your color grading process please! I have that camera and I love it
May do one next!
@@GRTHK yes please. Your grading in this was superb. Thought I was watching a batman movie
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@@GRTHK legend! Thank u
@@GRTHK thank you! found you and subbed thru this video!
There is something about the image quality of this camera. It has some thinkness to it compared to bmpcc 4k or even 6k.
I got two Bmcc Ef and m43 and just got. Pocket 4K I’m stacked!!
Hey I just recently bought a pocket 4k and I'm looking at the crane 2. I was also going to get a used vest and spring arm to bolt the gimbal to for those long shoots. Have you considered using a spring arm and vest, you could mount the V lock to the vest or another part of the rig. I'll probably be doing another montage around the river Thames within the next few weeks, I'm looking to get the crane 2 gimbal on boxing day or monday😂..... Can't wait
Why dont you put the vmount in a bag/ Rucksack and then run a DC extension to the camera? Thats what i do and it makes the gimble so much lighter.
Good point. My main concern was the cable pulling on the camera and moving / wobbling the shot. Will definitely look into it as a solution.
Friend, a question which stabilizer would you recommend for the bmcc 2.5k, I have the weebill s but I don't know if it is recommended, which one do you recommend that is not so expensive?
I still use it as 2nd cam to mix with an ARRI flawlessly
Amigo tengo una duda al dar formato a un disco SSD, para que es HFS+ y el exFAT? Para wue es cada formato?
HFS+ is Mac only. exFAT both Mac & Windows. Try this>>>> www.google.co.uk
@@GRTHK
Thank you very much friend little by little I have been learning some things by watching your videos, I have only had the bmcc for a week since the Viltrox focal reducer arrived, I did some tests but when I place the SSD disk to the PC I get folders with images as I would do for edit because I don't understand the files like that on the SSD disk. Do you have any video tutorial on that?
@@accionarteslaverde Using DaVinci Resolve, You need to select 'sequence' in frame display. It's due to the nature of Cinemadng files
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can you give us the test footage to work on it? I can't seem to find anywhere out there
Shoot your own footage, sir! Any camera. A huge part is where to put the camera. What light. What lens etc.. Using my footage won't teach you anything. Buy a BMCC. These cameras are cheap. Learn how to be a fisherman, don't ask for free fish 👊
Hey Gareth!
What export settings did you use in Resolve for this? Cheers!
Can't remember! Was a few years ago. Probably exported to Apple ProRes Proxy or ProRes LT.
I use the same setup but I wear a little fanny pack to carry my battery and run a cable to the BMCC. It makes a huge difference.
Could be the way forward!
I've been consistently leaning to edit for the past 2 years now. Just looking to buy my fist camera. Can afford all the bells and whistles I want. The messed up thing is: after watching hours and hours of reviews of Reds and BM6Pro's I still find this particular look, this particular softness and color more appealing for some reason. I think I'll buy 10 year old camera just for that and then move on to maybe smth like Ursa mini with an old sensor. Am I crazy or what? Lol
I don't think that's crazy. There's something special about the original BMCC sensor and you can't go wrong for the prices they sell at.
Just sold an expensive Sony, very good for the market they made for, but unfortunately cannot tolerate the codec. Purchased, during a period of 6 months, bmpcc og, Ursa mini 4.6k & bmpcc 4K with lens each and in mint condition. The og and Ursa 4.6 record CDNG lossless internally and I’m trying to downgrade the bmpcc 4K to firmware 5.1 to move that from braw to CDNG raw.
Three cameras and I have change to spare from a7s3 (yes waiting on eBay pays off) looking to get some lights with money I’ve got left. I’ve got the Ursa on a shoulder rig but looking at zhiyun crane 3s with steadiwest and the bmpcc 4K is on a zhiyun weebill s and I’ve been able to balance the bmpcc og on a zhiyun crane m2, the latter with the gimbal fits in my coat pocket, NEVER imagined that CDNG with the look and feel this little gem gives is indescribable. These cameras are amazing.
Awesome video! What is your preferred SSD with this camera?
SanDisk Extreme Pro. Never missed a frame!
@@GRTHK thank you so much!
@@GRTHK is 1 TB compatible? The DNG can fill up pretty quick.
Amazing footage bro im so curious to what codec you film in dng or raw it looks so nice imagine this on the ursa 12k same shot but i like the 2.5 cause i originally used this when it 1st came out many years ago but only for a few shots
BMCC shoots CinemaDNG, which is raw! I think the last firmware updates years ago changed the codec to a smaller raw file, but that was before I owned mine. Basically it has DNG 2.5k or ProRes HD. I always use the DNG.
Sorry to bother you gareth how did you get the slo mo in the into in the city when shooting at 29 or 30 fps on bmcc ?
@@lvgarco It's 25fps! No slow motion 🤘
@@GRTHK no way 😂 so how did you slo the footage down or did you shoot slo with gimbal moving slo ? No way is that 25fps ? It looks like 120 fps but clean
@@lvgarco .....it's real time footage. It isn't slowed down.
hi,. nice shots .... Does Sigma fp & sigma fp l, have similar image quality ??? as good as bmcc ?
I've never tried the Sigma! You'll have to check out some reviews bro.......
@@GRTHK ok .. thanks
How do you pull focus with the gimbal
There's a Zhiyun follow focus motor, sold separately
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1389924-REG/zhiyun_tech_gmb_c525_servo_follow_focus_mechanical.html
Hey Gareth, I really like your image style, would you allow me to use some of your footage as a sample of this camera in my social networks?, for my colleagues in Latin America, this camera is undervalued
Hey man, yes of course go ahead. Spread the word!
@@GRTHK thanks bro, i have the same camera and it´s fantastic, cinematic as hell, It is the closest to celluloid, very different from my pocket 4k or other cameras that I have, This video inspired me to do a test in my city, I'll send it to you
Can you tell me what angular lens, look similar to the lens that you use in this video(i mean quality)??? 💞💞💞
All equipment listed in the info!! Canon FD 24mm with a Metabones 0.64x Speedbooster 👍
How did you power the camera while on the gimbal? I get 10 minutes tops without a v-mount battery.
I have the 2.5k, such a good camera and a distinctive look as well. Do you have any links to external battery systems.
I use a D-tap to 2.5mm barrell cable to connect to v-mount
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You can put the V-Mount Battery in your back or clip it to your belt while shooting and run a flex cable to your camera/gimbal. I don't know why people just don't do that?
That's true. It can cause the gimbal to pull to one side or have its movement compromised, depending on how powerful / big your gimbal is. Handheld for sure it's an option.
Awesome ! Can you make a grading tuts on BMCC 2.5k cdng? Thx 🙏😊
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Is the rolling shutter a problem??
I'm torn between this camera and the bmpc4k (Because of it's global shutter).
But from my research so far, the BMCC just has a better image and dynamic range.
So how's the rolling shutter?
I don't think the new or original pocket 4k has global shutter? The BMCC Production 4k has a global shutter, but apparently isn't a great image.
Anyway, never noticed it on the BMCC 2.5k - Unless you're waving the camera around side to side you won't see it.
@@GRTHK thank you very much!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾
How did you balance the bmcc 2.5k on the zhiyun crane 2??? This is so frustrating
You need to use the Zhiyun crane inverted, with handles on top and camera underneath.
And how is the original blackmagic pocket in comparison with 2.5, do not you know?
I have never owned the original pocket! Different sensors, I think.....
@@GRTHK they use the same fairchild super16 sensor, micro too. With the speedbooster it becomes super35
you managed to speedboost the EF mount bmcc?
It's the Micro Four Thirds mount!
Wonderful to see this! How do you find the Crane 2 focus puller with the BMCC 2.5k?
Works great. Highly recommend! They're very cheap these days too.
crack!
What field monitor did you use?
Atomos Ninja V 🤘
I want one of these so bad
eBay Sir.... £400 / £500
What is better, this camera or the camera off Google 6a ?
Funniest comment of 2023 already 🤣 🤣 🤣
Хорошая камера только косячная! Постоянно что-то нужно к ней покупать
Just tell me...how did you color correct this?
Davinci Resolve (obviously) - I may do an episode about how I grade CinemaDNG files out of the BMCC 2.5k
As far as I know there's a new thing in Atomos Ninja, there's a new AtomX SDI adapter, only 99 USD, so you don't need to use special adapter
The SDI module from Atomos IS THE SPECIAL ADAPTER! It's around £190 in UK.
There is a Blackmagic SDI In / HDMI Out converter that's around £60? I did use that on BMCC before I got the AtomX SDI
@@GRTHK oh okay
Whew cmon with the color grade break down