Hi Pete, look up Crankshaft Rebuilders in Blackburn for the machining.. please use new pistons... better to just not have to worry about the bottom end in future... you can always get the head done later. :)
You do everything else the correct way so why change now. Would love to see another BMC car on the channel. The Wolseley series got me hooked on your channel to start with. Go on do it do it. 😎
Well, this is going to be interesting. The English 1620 engines had bigger valves, I think the Aus engine just used the 1500 head with the smaller valves, I would be interested to know if that it true. The English engines developed more horsepower, 62 as opposed to 55 in the Aus cars (according to BMC workshop manual). The engine number in my Austin begins with 16ANHY which I think means high compression. It also has a Nissan J series head. I discovered it when I took the rocker cover off to set the tappets! It's a bit of a 'bitsa'. Having watched many of your videos, I have a feeling your engine will end up with flat top pistons and an MG cam. Go for it I say 👍
My first car was na 1968 Austin 1800 (B series engine, same as MGBGT) I bought in 1971. I had it for 2 weeks and engine packed up. I had it overhauled, 1000miles later it was shot again, did it 5 times in one year. i did it myself the last 4 times. After the 2nd fitted a oil pressure gauge. While running in pressure was 80psi, but as soon as I exceeded 50mph it dropped. eventually I found the fualt was the timing chain tensioner! when engine revs picked up it would cock in it's bore and oil pressure would escape resulting in loss of pressure. Be careful, replace the chain and tensioner by 50,000 miles...
Interesting to see this, Peter! Ahh yes, I recently had to deal with a bunch of those plastic boxes full of my crap. Fun, isn’t it? I’ll be spraying the guard and bumper in red on the weekend, finally!
What about if you clean it then pack it up till you have something to put it in? Use $$ for the current projects as most are on the precipice of completion 😄 I believe the B series design was also used in the Datsun Bluebirds 410/411. My '65 411 has a J13 in it so this is very interesting and extremely useful to me. Cheers Peter, thanks for your great vids (as always).
Hi Pete... Fun project! You know I always like to hack it together, but I suspect you'll have a hard time not making it nice! Best as always from the junkyard... Hurry come visit; I have about 10 engines need going over, haha...
I'd be interested to see it put back together at minimum cost and using the best of your parts Hoard . It might provide an viable engine replacement for someone with a tight budget who is trying to restore an old B.M.C. 4-banger. My Wolseley engine ( 110 ) was green with silver tappet cover , air intake tube and cover for the air cleaners . I re did them Hammertone silver which looked good .
go to town on it , shove it the MG just for fun , easy to swap out and back in ........ or what about a landcrab ? 1800 . more grunt lol . good luck finding one though mate
You seem pretty set on getting the higher compression pistons, with that sentiment i think we all know what the correct course of action will likely be as to go down the cobble it together will just be a "I should of done it right the first time" chestnut. However if the budget is skint then i don't see an issue with getting it ticking along on the best of 3 engine parts runner. Quite the conundrum.
Turn it into the MGA engine. Plus get it balanced. Decades ago I rebuilt an A series engine and the balance was terrible from the factory. Also chase up an up rated oil pump and see if you can squeeze in the tolerances that little bit for modern oil.
Go on. You always loved the beautiful lines of the MGA. You know you want one. And they don't take up any room in that indoor football stadium you call your garage.
Ditto re XC. It is fun though rummaging through your “stuff” and re-discovering it all over again. Hope you didn’t get too many rust shavings into your tea!
Yes mate, but you're a professional and I'm pretending to be, so what's simple for you is a head scratcher for me haha. Thanks so much for your input and support too - as far as this guard is concerned, I'll follow your advise, cheers
FWIW, I see no point in putting bad pistons into a good block and crank. It you have another piston fail or more cracked rings, you risk damaging the bores. I’d suggest cleaning up what is good and setting aside - while watching for a deal on better pistons - and the building a nice reliable engine for a fun car.
I'd get new pistons, and rebore the cylinders. The crankshaft should be fine, though, from the look of it. A new cam might also be needed, given the wear on tha lifter. Still, you'll end up with a nice rebuilt engine to use in whatever car you find. But, that's just me.
Just for the fun of it, I'd suggest just get it going as best you can using parts you have and at lowest cost. It would be interesting to see how well it then runs. Anyways, I'd watch you do so.
I'd say depends on what you want to do with it. If you really want to put it in a car, do it up right. If you just want to get it running on an engine stand for fun, use what you have and don't worry about any cosmetics or cleaning it up too much.
Hi Pete how are you going? My 24/80 Mk 1 was a high comp motor...prefix was 24Y/ AH / 3516... It would be good if you could get pistons and rings, bearings gaskets etc for the price I paid in 1986 from the NSW Wolseley Club. From memory a set of 10 thou over pistons came in at around 240- 250 bucks... expensive at the time but today??
Lol. Every time we think we're gonna see some XC content, you start something else. C'mon Pete, we've all been very patient with your procrastinations on the Ford. You promised us XC content in the Spring and Spring is nearly over. I've enjoyed all the other stuff with the bikes, Bluebird and Starlie through the year but please, lets see you get the XC on the road before the end of 2020
I guess you have to ask yourself "What is the Challenge?". I'd say the challenge is to reassemble the engine with the usable parts you have, plus some second hand pistons that will work. Use new bushings and a cleaned up crank. New rings, replace the questionable valves with second hand ones, a valve grind, new springs and you are back on the road with that motor. If you are going to bore the block, you are looking at everything all new - but that isn't really a challenge. We didn't see the cam or all the lifters. You might just get away with new lifters. Budget build should be fine. You have other engines. May as well squeeze some life out of this one. You never know - it may surprise you how long it will last.
Well... I have a 40 year old Mercury outboard motor that needs to be overhauled, but I haven’t got a boat...would like to get one again... Would you advice me to take it apart? It’s the same with this engine. Just sort it out and put it away.
I would just put it back together on the cheep, new rings etc. It wont be driven every day or thrashed, it will probably never ever do 10,000km in the rest of its life!
I noticed the MOWOG casting in the Australia outline on the crank, I knew the cars were assembled in Aus but I always thought they were CKD kits from England. Zetland must have been a far bigger plant than I realised.
@@raygale4198 Zetland was a massive plant... I had the privilege of going there in the 90's when it was the Australian Naval store depot. I had a job picking up parts in a van for the Anzac Frigates and I felt really well choofed to visit most of the buildings in there. Lots of BMC green on the roller doors and around the lower walls in what would have been the paint shop..It was a great experience especially going into the admin block which was very fancy with expensive carpet and polished timber everywhere. It smelled just like the interior of any upmarket Wolseley or Van den Plas..
Pete, if you had thousands of subs demanding content I can understand why you would pull that engine out and rebuild it? If you are going to do it do it properly and sell it. Finish the bikes and the XC....
Thanks Adrian... watching me must be frustrating at best as I keep jumping from one thing to the other, which I apologise for - I'm too mood driven, cheers.
Your Shed is like every room and hole I own,glad am not alone Thanks Peter
Nothing like a backyard rebuild to help us with our own projects in hard times
“I want to get the XC finished that’s the priority” scene cuts to a dismantled MG engine, haha I love the variety.
Hi Pete, look up Crankshaft Rebuilders in Blackburn for the machining.. please use new pistons... better to just not have to worry about the bottom end in future... you can always get the head done later. :)
Yes mate, I dropped it off at the machine shop I use earlier today, cheers.
@@PeterAndersons Who do you use just out of interest please?
You do everything else the correct way so why change now. Would love to see another BMC car on the channel. The Wolseley series got me hooked on your channel to start with. Go on do it do it. 😎
Well, this is going to be interesting. The English 1620 engines had bigger valves, I think the Aus engine just used the 1500 head with the smaller valves, I would be interested to know if that it true. The English engines developed more horsepower, 62 as opposed to 55 in the Aus cars (according to BMC workshop manual). The engine number in my Austin begins with 16ANHY which I think means high compression. It also has a Nissan J series head. I discovered it when I took the rocker cover off to set the tappets! It's a bit of a 'bitsa'. Having watched many of your videos, I have a feeling your engine will end up with flat top pistons and an MG cam. Go for it I say 👍
My first car was na 1968 Austin 1800 (B series engine, same as MGBGT) I bought in 1971. I had it for 2 weeks and engine packed up. I had it overhauled, 1000miles later it was shot again, did it 5 times in one year. i did it myself the last 4 times. After the 2nd fitted a oil pressure gauge. While running in pressure was 80psi, but as soon as I exceeded 50mph it dropped. eventually I found the fualt was the timing chain tensioner! when engine revs picked up it would cock in it's bore and oil pressure would escape resulting in loss of pressure. Be careful, replace the chain and tensioner by 50,000 miles...
Yes indeed... where I used the old tensioner and chain in this for simple idle work on a running stand, the 1620 is receiving all new kit, cheers.
Interesting to see this, Peter! Ahh yes, I recently had to deal with a bunch of those plastic boxes full of my crap. Fun, isn’t it? I’ll be spraying the guard and bumper in red on the weekend, finally!
Can never remember what I put it them haha, cheers.
What about if you clean it then pack it up till you have something to put it in? Use $$ for the current projects as most are on the precipice of completion 😄
I believe the B series design was also used in the Datsun Bluebirds 410/411. My '65 411 has a J13 in it so this is very interesting and extremely useful to me.
Cheers Peter, thanks for your great vids (as always).
Hi Pete... Fun project! You know I always like to hack it together, but I suspect you'll have a hard time not making it nice! Best as always from the junkyard... Hurry come visit; I have about 10 engines need going over, haha...
Postage woes buddy! No parts means I'm looking in all corners for stuff worthy of filming that I'm in the mood to do haha, cheers.
I'd be interested to see it put back together at minimum cost and using the best of your parts Hoard . It might provide an viable engine replacement for someone with a tight budget who is trying to restore an old B.M.C. 4-banger.
My Wolseley engine ( 110 ) was green with silver tappet cover , air intake tube and cover for the air cleaners . I re did them Hammertone silver which looked good .
In the early 80's our family car was a 1958 wolsely
go to town on it , shove it the MG just for fun , easy to swap out and back in ........ or what about a landcrab ? 1800 . more grunt lol . good luck finding one though mate
Great video. You will eventually need to do the job right, so it makes sense to do it once, not twice.
You seem pretty set on getting the higher compression pistons, with that sentiment i think we all know what the correct course of action will likely be as to go down the cobble it together will just be a "I should of done it right the first time" chestnut. However if the budget is skint then i don't see an issue with getting it ticking along on the best of 3 engine parts runner. Quite the conundrum.
Turn it into the MGA engine. Plus get it balanced. Decades ago I rebuilt an A series engine and the balance was terrible from the factory. Also chase up an up rated oil pump and see if you can squeeze in the tolerances that little bit for modern oil.
9.0 :1 compression sounds good, and a MGA camshaft.
Go on. You always loved the beautiful lines of the MGA. You know you want one. And they don't take up any room in that indoor football stadium you call your garage.
Ditto re XC. It is fun though rummaging through your “stuff” and re-discovering it all over again. Hope you didn’t get too many rust shavings into your tea!
If it did get in my tea, I must have had my iron intake for the day, ha thanks for the comments.
Bore it and go all the way. You know it's the right way.
Yes mate, it's at the machine shop as we speak!
Two days in a row! Nice one Pete.
Way to go Peter, I love these B series engines.
Need another Farina bodied car on the channel.
I'm actually pining for an Elite - I love the Wolseley 1500 interior, and the Elite exterior.
The dent on the gaurd tap up the style line and then hammer and dolly the crease flat its fairly simple repair
Yes mate, but you're a professional and I'm pretending to be, so what's simple for you is a head scratcher for me haha. Thanks so much for your input and support too - as far as this guard is concerned, I'll follow your advise, cheers
@@PeterAndersons i have complete faith in your abilities your a very very very smart man! Your engine building videos were a god send to me!
It would be great to see this engine properly fixed!
Yes, I have decided to do that - I'll do a quick 'see if she'll run' on the complete 1500 engine, cheers.
We al know you will rebuild it. I'll just grab a cup of tea and wait. :-P
FWIW, I see no point in putting bad pistons into a good block and crank. It you have another piston fail or more cracked rings, you risk damaging the bores. I’d suggest cleaning up what is good and setting aside - while watching for a deal on better pistons - and the building a nice reliable engine for a fun car.
I'd get new pistons, and rebore the cylinders. The crankshaft should be fine, though, from the look of it. A new cam might also be needed, given the wear on tha lifter. Still, you'll end up with a nice rebuilt engine to use in whatever car you find. But, that's just me.
Just for the fun of it, I'd suggest just get it going as best you can using parts you have and at lowest cost. It would be interesting to see how well it then runs. Anyways, I'd watch you do so.
Used in the Riley Farinas also I believe. So even more badge engineering.
Was there a Vanden Plas version?
No, only in the 6 pot was there a VDP (3litre)
I've got engines, just no car to put 'em in. 🤣 When you uncovered the MG, I couldn't help thinking it must have been full
of very unhappy huntsmans
Nah... I didn't see any spiders anywhere, I guess there was no food for them in this old car.
I'd say depends on what you want to do with it. If you really want to put it in a car, do it up right. If you just want to get it running on an engine stand for fun, use what you have and don't worry about any cosmetics or cleaning it up too much.
Spend some money. You would not be happy cobbling the engine together. Thanks for all your videos
Hi Pete how are you going? My 24/80 Mk 1 was a high comp motor...prefix was 24Y/ AH / 3516... It would be good if you could get pistons and rings, bearings gaskets etc for the price I paid in 1986 from the NSW Wolseley Club. From memory a set of 10 thou over pistons came in at around 240- 250 bucks... expensive at the time but today??
Lol. Every time we think we're gonna see some XC content, you start something else. C'mon Pete, we've all been very patient with your procrastinations on the Ford. You promised us XC content in the Spring and Spring is nearly over. I've enjoyed all the other stuff with the bikes, Bluebird and Starlie through the year but please, lets see you get the XC on the road before the end of 2020
My first car was a 64 mini cooper , 997cc engine had disc front brakes and all))
64 Cooper - A very high dollar car these days!
Rustle up a moke to put it in . Might give your collection some variety , hard to come by though.
I doubt it will fit in a Moke, they had an A series - it would be a fun gig trying though...
What $$ difference between the two options? Also how to send you stuff?
Hi. Do you have a cylinder head for a Wolseley 4/50 engine or a complete engine?
nice Ando
I guess you have to ask yourself "What is the Challenge?". I'd say the challenge is to reassemble the engine with the usable parts you have, plus some second hand pistons that will work. Use new bushings and a cleaned up crank. New rings, replace the questionable valves with second hand ones, a valve grind, new springs and you are back on the road with that motor. If you are going to bore the block, you are looking at everything all new - but that isn't really a challenge. We didn't see the cam or all the lifters. You might just get away with new lifters. Budget build should be fine. You have other engines. May as well squeeze some life out of this one. You never know - it may surprise you how long it will last.
Well... I have a 40 year old Mercury outboard motor that needs to be overhauled, but I haven’t got a boat...would like to get one again...
Would you advice me to take it apart? It’s the same with this engine. Just sort it out and put it away.
Why oh why aren't you using a Litchfield Engineering spring compressor? Breaks my heart.
For the minimal performance and reliability gains, I'd stick with a "budget" build. Hope you find an old MGB Midget to stick the engine in!
It won't fit in a Midget!
I would just put it back together on the cheep, new rings etc. It wont be driven every day or thrashed, it will probably never ever do 10,000km in the rest of its life!
I would wait and do it properly once and be done with it. Then you can put it into a car and drive it without having to do the job twice
Absolutely, which is the reason I'm doing as you suggest, cheers.
I dont know if you are short of anything for the engine but I have about ten of them so if you need anything just let me know,cheers.
Y is Australian production.
I noticed the MOWOG casting in the Australia outline on the crank, I knew the cars were assembled in Aus but I always thought they were CKD kits from England. Zetland must have been a far bigger plant than I realised.
@@raygale4198 Zetland was a massive plant... I had the privilege of going there in the 90's when it was the Australian Naval store depot. I had a job picking up parts in a van for the Anzac Frigates and I felt really well choofed to visit most of the buildings in there. Lots of BMC green on the roller doors and around the lower walls in what would have been the paint shop..It was a great experience especially going into the admin block which was very fancy with expensive carpet and polished timber everywhere. It smelled just like the interior of any upmarket Wolseley or Van den Plas..
7x the power of that engine ,built in 62 ,factory stock & not a truck ....what car/engine do I have ?
Is it a 413 Dodge?
Pete, if you had thousands of subs demanding content I can understand why you would pull that engine out and rebuild it? If you are going to do it do it properly and sell it. Finish the bikes and the XC....
Thanks Adrian... watching me must be frustrating at best as I keep jumping from one thing to the other, which I apologise for - I'm too mood driven, cheers.
@@PeterAndersons No need to apologise Peter, we are a lot alike, except you are far more skilled...