Transmission fluid service on a Honda Pilot - Complete procedure
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2018
- This is how to properly and safely change out the transmission fluid in a 2014 Honda Pilot with 45,000 miles by changing out fluid multiple times to get all the dirty fluid out safely! Always check service manual and/or have a qualified repair facility perform this vital maintenance!
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I have honda pilot 2014. I also need to drain the atf and put in genuine honda atf. Would u recommend me changing the external filter also. I bought the car used. I dont know if the previous owner had changed the external filter. Mine have the cooler on the radiator front also.
Gee, makes me wonder about my 2007 Honda Pilot. It was changed at 111K and now has 176k. I should check to see if it has a external filter..
Could an inline be added to the 14 pilot. I know the older and newer models have the external inline. Wanting my pilot to last as long as possible
Do you know what size threads the filler plug is? I bought my pilot and they jammed a rubber plug down in the filler hole.
Hi Dave. I got 2011 honda pilot LX 4WD I want to do the transmission service my self. But I don't know if my car has a transmission filter? Where is located? Thank you
So would I get double charged if the dealer had to what u did in the video
good video, i would probably change it just one time every 30k since im on a budget.
Hi Dave, my Honda 2007 Pilot run OK I drive it every day. I parked my Honda 2007 Pilot on a flat surface over night, then open the 17mm nut on the top, then I open the oil plug at the bottom with square 3/8 ratchet, NOTHING come out. (1) Do I need jack the front of the car higher. (2) Do I need to run the car for a while before open the 3/8 square bottom plug. (3) Very strange, my square 3/8 oil plug does NOT have the magnetic piece in there. (4) When checking the fluid level do I need to let the car run and transmission set at "Neutral". I remember that I changed the transmission oil couple time at Honda dealer, due to the cost of Honda dealer charging, this is the FIRST time I change transmission at home. After seeing nothing come out, and since the 17mm top nut already open I just add one quart of new Honda ATF-DW1, is this a good thing to do ? Thanks Dave.
Well not sure what you are doing. If you opened the drain plug for the trans and nothing came out then either something is blocking the drain, or it's not the drain plug you removed. If the vehicle drove fine then I would have to conclude that their was fluid inside trans. Also if you do eventually get fluid to drain measure what comes out so you have an idea how much new fluid you need to add.
Nice job on the video, Dave. On my 2019 Ridgeline, it's really difficult to get to that fill plug with the heater hoses in the way. I've been told that I can just use the dip stick tube for refilling. That seems so easy. Is that really an option? Thanks for your reply.
Tube is too small. Best way is to use trans funnel with aprox 1 ft hose. Also good idea to blow off any loose dirt before removing fill cap. The caps can be tight. Also lay some clean towels or rags around fill area and cardboard under vehicle just in case you spill. Just take your time filling.
@@Dave12418974 Hi Dave, thanks for the reply. I just discovered some difference between my Ridgeline and the Pilot you worked on here. On the Ridgline, you can't even see the fill port from above as it is directly below the two heater hoses. You actually have to crawl in and onto the engine to get your hand on it. Also, the fill tube is 20 mm in diameter. That's over 3/4", making it large enough to fit a transmission fluid funnel into it. I too drained out MORE than the manual stated, at least 3.6 quarts. That's 300 mL more that what I should have measured. My question now is...Was it over-filled by the manufacturer? And should I correct that mistake by only adding only 3.3 quarts as the manual advises? Also note that when I had checked the fluid level, before the job and using different guidelines prescribed, I consistently got readings well above the full line, ie. the second hole at the bottom of the dip stick. I'm wondering what your thoughts were on this? Looking forward to your reply. Thanks.
@@danseman1
Hi Dave, a few thoughts; is the vehicle level when you drained it? Also fluid does expand when hot. Yes there is hoses and wiring harnesses in the way on most models. Would have been nice if they had a nice long fill tube as many vehicles use to have. As far as the level. If the fluid didnt get foamy at the previous level it may have been ok at that level. I don't actually build transmissions but you could ask a transmission specialist who may have experience with those transmissions could give you possibly better advice on the best final level.
Hi Steve
Just had a 2016 Pilot in today and this one does have a larger dipstick opening so you could add fluid here if you needed to.
Good job!!! I have one friend he is mechanic he told me i doing wrong when i checking ATF level on my Honda accord 2008 v6 with engine off, he told me i should check transmission fluid level with engine running!!!than i told them the honda says i have to worm up to operate temperature then trun engine off waiting 60 seconds no more than 90 seconds for proper fluid level. Than my mechanic told me i will burn transmission clutches. That you think?
Hey! If customer went to the dealership and asked for "transmission fluid change" service. Would the tech just drain few quarts of old fluid and just fill what came out or they do a flush? I just want to make sure if fluid change is usually enough as not all fluid comes out.
I know it's a 2 year old comment, but you would have to ask if the dealership has the special Honda transmission flush machine to actually do a flush. Otherwise if you took it to a regular mechanic who can't afford a super expensive Honda-specific transmission flushing machine then I would expect it to just be a one time drain and fill (though you would have to do it a few times to really get good results).
Thanks for the info. I had a 2000 Honda Accord v6, one of the worse automatic transmissions Honda ever made. Instead of flushing, filling, running the car, and repeating the process, I would just drain and refill the ATF with each oil change. Basically same thing and oil is never more than 15k miles old. I also had an external transmission cooler. I gave that accord to a family friend with 135k miles. It’s still on the road today with over 200k miles - mind you this is all city driving miles.
Yes that is a good insurance policy!
Hello. I have a 2015 pilot. Do you know if my year also does not have an external transmission fluid filter? Thanks.
Hi Lupton It is also an internal filter in 2015 only serviced with trans out and disassembled. Best way to prevent wear is performing routine multiple fluid changes as shown in the video using OEM Honda fluid or fluid that exceeds Honda specs before it gets to dirty/burn't. Hope this helps you.
Dave's Service Center thanks for the reply. And yes, I buy a case of the DW1 every 30k and do a drain/ fill / drive 3 times. It’s surprising how dirty/ burnt it gets after 30k. Can’t imagine waiting 100k.
So i guess to do this right i would need to buy 8 quarts of transmission fluid?
Is there anyways to check if theyre really flush my transmission cause when they don that im not there thanks
If you have a dipstick you can easily visually check the fluid condition. If not you will have to sample fluid from a case drain or if know drain at an overflow level plug with the engine off. The best way to do that is to remove any shields that maybe in the way and then look for the drain bolt. Make sure you clean around the bolt first, then slowly loosen it while holding a white paper towel to see if its clean or not. If the fluid appears clean then they did their job of completely changing out the old fluid. Fluid change (multiple times) is the best policy with the proper spec fluid!
Honda says 4q trans change at 30k and a 10q change at 45k. So doing 2 or 3 drain and fills is just washing out the remaining 6q. not sure that's needed.
The cleaner the fluid the better. Unless it's too dirty (example black and gritty) indicating excessive wear then just leave it be.
At what engine temperature is it suitable to drain the transmission oil for Honda Pilot 2012
Warm
trans filter ?
how much oil does the 2009 honda pilot transmission carry
Alldata states 8.3 qts for the 4WD and 8.8 qts for the FWD for the dry fill. Always check when done for proper level to be safe!
can the new fluid be added thru the dip stick? have a 14 Pilot with the stick in the front
The fill cap is in the rear top of trans. I believe it's a 17 mm head. Can use a long extension and ratchet to remove it. Use a trans funnel with a 1 ft hose to get fluid in the trans.
ill do so. . thanks
Does this process drain the trans an differential?
Some models have a separate transfer case and some share the same fluid. Always good to research your make model year as optioned before servicing.
Hi there. Thank for shared this video, I got a Honda CRV 2017 and IT got already 57k miles, I wanna do the CVT oil chance, is IT same as this pilot?
No its different ATF fluid. Calls for Honda HCF 2 CVT fluid or equivalent rated. Also special service procedures do apply.
@@Dave12418974 I did before, i mean i wanna do the flushing because my car jerked
That car is probably being used to tow heavy things I have the same truck 84000 miles I did a transmission service and the fluid was still super pink and clear first transmission service
What fluid exceeds it?
Hi Nathan
Good question! Not sure but with many oem specific fluids there maybe some full synthetics that are rated at of above the oe specs for many manufacturers. So that's why I stated that. I have personally used Full Synthetic Universal ATF in my vehicles that have almost 200,000 miles on them still on the original trans with no issues and good shift quality! Best to do your research as per year and make of your trans first. Hope this answer helps you!
Dave
You did all that and didn’t replace the automatic transmission filter???
Hi Roger, a good question. This vehicle only has an internal trans filter (internal screen) that is only serviced by removal of the Trans and also disassembly. Vehicles with a serviceable filter we do change after exchanging the fluid a few times. The purpose of at least changing out the dirty/burn't fluid is to extend the transmission life as long as possible.
I don't believe it does. The internal screen will not get clogged if you routinely change out your fluid. 30,000 - 40000 miles is average.
@@Dave12418974 2003 honda pilot im working on has really burnt fluid. please tell me it has an external filter and if so can you tell me where its located
@@nikodemos777 its internal screen. Only serviced by complete disassembly at rebuild.
Did you shift through all the gears with it on the lift?
Great question rudieder! Yes at low RPMs as possible including reverse. But not recommended on vehicles where you can't turn off the traction control. And also you don't want to run axles/c.v. Joints unloaded at high speeds as this can and will damage the CV joints! If you can't safely run vehicle through the gears (at low rpms) while lifted then just shift through pausing in each gear selector including reverse. Still doing a multiple drain and fill is still a better process than just a single drain and fill.
Does a 2016 also have an internal filter only needing regular trans fluid changes?
Alldata shows 2 Transmissions for that year. For the 6 speed they list both an internal and external filter. The external filter is in the cooler line/hose near the trans. I have never done one yet. The 9 speed has no listing.
Dave's Service Center does the internal require the transmission be taken apart? Thanks.
@@jessegranados909 yes
@@jessegranados909 no
@@jasonsims007 The filter number #25450-P4V-013 you listed before but then removed from your comments is for the externally serviced filter that some Honda transmissions have at the cooler! There are also an internal screen filter on many transmissions that is serviced only when dis assembling trans! My video is not to misinform anyone but to help shed some light on how to extend the life through maintenance! You are welcome to post your own transmission maintenance video if you think you could do better!
Is not bad at all
please film in landscape not portrait next time thanx
Yes for sure!
Wow I don't know what to say except maybe that person needs to start looking for a different mechanic or maybe you shouldn't call yourself a mechanic you do a fluid change and that's just what you did ran the vehicle drain the fluid add new fluid three times showed all your equipment but you never once mentioned anything about the transmission filter you never change the transmission filter and you probably never will change the transmission filter and that vehicle what's up with that