the person selling Apache is probably a horse flipper because they have tons of horses for sale, they don't know anything about the horses they sell, it looks like they copy past all their descriptions of the horse and they probably won't let you do a ppe
They are horse flippers located in Murrieta, CA, so are catering to rich, ignorant Californians. They did sell Apache to some idiot who paid the $25K asking price.
I feel like the $75,000 horse was meant to be posted for $7,500, and they added an extra zero. Based on their typing skills and the description I wouldn't be surprised! 😅
$75,000 is definitely to much, but $7,500 isn't enough, especially for a ranch horse, and as well he's a everything/everyone kinda horse, so he'd sell easily at 20k-25k
@@DustyHoney possibly, but like I said, 75,000 would be way to much, and 7,500 wouldn't be enough, looks, color and bloodlines sell, even if it's a gelding, and roans sell like hotcakes, cause they are flashy and nice to look at
@@bambilegacy1221I’ve got a ranch horse too. Nice tobiano paint gelding. Someone gave him to me for free with their trailer. Got my arabian for free too, who is also a good worker but prefers showing. And my gymkhana horse for $200. Ain’t no way I’m paying more than $3,000 for a horse that isn’t either a dead broke to ride, young kids horse, or my dream horse. And I could train my own kids horse anyway. Horses are way too overpriced nowadays. No thank you
WOW. All I can say. I paid $600 for my registered TB straight off the track. He was around 6 according to the vet and sold off as grade when they broke his wind. Luckily they sold him off rather than euthanize. Absolutely amazing animal! He had a great foundation and that's all I ever asked or needed from him, he was never more than a pleasure horse and he was happy to be one. He was vain and loved to hear his hooves on packed dirt, or echoing in a tunnel (seriously). When I went to college I sold him to a little boy that fell in love with him. I sold him for $800 and the little boy and my horse couldn't be happier. It was sad but I didn't have time for him and it wasn't fair to him. Could I have sold him for more? Probably but I didn't. I had the best four years with him and the little boy got him into training for dressage and eventually won a few competitions on him. He did love to jump. When did horses become so freaking expensive? Their price is nothing compared to the care and upkeep, makes no sense to me.
@@m6666I think it depends on the location. Over in Spokane, WA you can almost get them for free, too many in rescues, and kill pens are constantly full.
It's like people are trying to get back money they put in the horse's care. "I fed him for like three years, I can add some of that in the price, he's been recently shoed and had his teeth checked, gotta add that since it means the new owner don't need to do it soon. Oh yeah I definitely need to get back what I paid to get him gelded" and stuff like that. I wouldn't be surprised if some people think like that.
I get very concerned when I see this, people believe they get very amazing trained horses because they are expensive, but get beaten up scrawny green horses. It’s upsetting for the humans, but for the horse aswell
It's their own fault if they don't understand nearly everything about the horse before buying. They obviously have too much money, and I say bravo to whoever fleeced them! I knew better than that when I was just 14! I walked away from people who tried to cheat my parents.
You did, our buckskin paint “bombproof” reining quarter house had years of training, plus she had the worlds most comfortable back, we overpaid because the owner was on the fence about selling but was still only $2100, and that was in California. 😂
I paid 4k for my friesian fjord cross, he's 3 years old so he didn't have any training.. so a lot of work but I wanted a friesian cross so I got one! He's amazing so far! He had 60 months of professional training so I'm excited to see where we go!
Seeing this a lot. Young teenager horse trainers taking ex racehorses and taking hundreds of photos until they get a couple of nice shorts jumping three bars, then advertising them for thousands of dollars as dream potential.
They say there is a sucker born every minute and if they can get one horse sold at the price they are asking then it can easily make up for that year's worth of hay costs and depending where they bought the horses, probably some of the cost of the horses they have as well. If the seller could never get the money they wouldn't post those prices. It's only because you and I know better that we would walk away like "they can't be serious, right?". Not everyone knows better.
Or it could be dealers doing an equine version of puppy mills for those wanting a calm trail horse. Been seeing various ones just starting horses that are draft crosses or resells that just put a lot of basic skills into them and then sell on UA-cam. @@blackdandelion5549
You know it's good when they say "stands to be groomed and tacked up"! OMG, that had me dying of laughter. These people obviously have zero idea what they are doing.
If the horse is under $5k where I live the ad would need to specify those things. Picks up all four feet. Easily caught/comes to you in field. Stands tied. Stands for grooming and to be tacked. These are all things that would need to be said for a cheaper horse where I live or else do not count on them. For over $20k I expect it. For over $50k the horse should groom and tack itself and only roll in the cleanest spots and never in a dirty spot in pasture.
@@blackdandelion5549 that's crazy, if the horse has a saddle on in the pics then it all those things should already be known. Shouldn't even be riding the thing unless they are. No one pays more than $1k for what's basically a wild horse lol
@@casdragon_5939 Oh, I am laughing. Just because the saddle is currently on doesn't mean it's been there for more than that picture. I've personally seen people saddle up horses that can't be farriered or can barely be led on the ground and when you make a suggestion the horse needs groundwork before the person gets on. . . .you are told to *insert nasty comment*. Untrained horses are being sold online for $1,100 at a low price in places like CO. If they even take a rider the price shoots up to $2,500 and it says they need a refresher. Where I live a gentleman was asking $7k for completely feral horses because of their bloodlines. Horses are so expensive now in the northern midwest. You and I won't get on unless all of the proper groundwork is in place, even if I am doing it myself and want the horse to be super responsive and pick up their foot where I just ask and they do and soft on the halter and stand like an angel for farrier and vet. I like to toss that saddle blanket under, over, on the butt, over the ears, who knows where things end up? Walking on tarps, etc. That is NOT how everybody else does it though. Some just want to get on and get a saddle on and get the horse sold or they just want to get on. Seen it go badly a lot. I don't expect a horse to be trained in simple things just because they wear a saddle or take a rider.
In my day, (and I’m pretty old) Dex the horse would be a lesson horse that someone’s kid would convince their parents to buy from the barn for about $800.00 (barn would sell him cheap because they made more money from board and training). A lesson horse would be expected to be able to do most of those things, plus taking kids over cross rails. Plus that horse manages to visually combine some of the worst confirmation qualities of a quarter horse and a draft all in one.
Like they say at Elkhart auction, you can't ride the papers. No point in paying extra for the registration papers on a gelding unless you want proof of the pedigree for yourself.
While this is true, if you are buying a specific breed for that much money it's likely you may show in a breed specific show like AQHA only shows, AHA only shows, etc. so even with a gelding sometimes papers do matter as you can't get into certain shows without registration. If you are dropping $20K+ on a horse there is a high chance you show or compete at high levels as well and the sire of this horse may say "Has produced strong competitors like XYZ who won XYZ places in XYZ classes". If the lineage is good and you are showing at high levels it still can matter. For me personally. . . .I have two unregistered horses or at least two I don't have the registration for. I am working on getting the papers for one, but the woman who sold the horse is a senior with Alzheimer's and the family is trying and shows her a picture of the horse to try and jog her memory while they care for her every once in a while. I am also working with the breed assoc. I don't sit on papers though and I don't show at National Levels. Not my thing.
@@blackdandelion5549 Yes. I guess that's sort of what I was thinking when I mentioned wanting papers for proof of the pedigree, to know if the horse was bred for this or that discipline and the parent(s) were proven in that discipline. Hadn't even considered needing them to get into certain shows. Not my thing either. I appreciate them all, but have always been a backyard horse person myself. Have known and worked with countless grade horses over the years. Good luck with getting the papers. I hope it works out for you. Sad about the lady with Alzheimer's.
At a barn I was showing at, before I went to it I wanted to see what it was like, so I went on their website. They had a sale horse section, and had a nice warmblood 1.30m jumper. The horse was 19 years old and sold for $25,000 CAD. Another horse was listed for $15,000 CAD, in the past was a great 1.30m jumper and was 21. Another thing I notice is a lot of people think that their horses are worth a million dollars because of their past, if you're horse has done amazing stuff in the past, that doesn't mean their worth that much when they're old.
I don't think it's outlandish to value experience and health history appropriately. A healthy sound 20 yr old horse who has been well trained has clearly shown its longevity and could go for another 10 years. Paying for a proven record is not illogical. Paying for potential is far more risky imo. A green horse may never take you anywhere and will take years to develop (if trained properly). Some folks want a horse they can get on and go right away and that's not worth less. Devaluing solid older horses is sad. That being said....I personally wouldn't pay 5 figures for any horse because I've never had that kind of budget. There are GREAT horses (both young & old) for under 10k.
Raleigh, you should do a video on bad training techniques in the show Yellowstone! I've picked up on quite a few examples of less than favourable techniques but I've never seen anyone talk about it ♡
@@Addyson321 bred, born, raised Montanan here! I've never seen Yellowstone itself but i actually like the prequels to it. Course the first one doesn't even reach Montana until the last episode!
What about the online horse auctions? YIKES!!! Some of those prices are totally insane. Just recently saw a Rocky Mountain horse gelding who was registered and certified sell for $35,000.00 for trail riding. I thought auctions were where you went to find a good deal. Guess I need to rethink this!
Some I watch online are real cheap and horses go for $800 and some go really stupid high, but usually those are few and far between. Recently the auctions where I live and the five state area have move with slaughter prices so if you can halter it and it takes a saddle, then it's going $4k and up if you can't see a limp. Major auctions like you described only happen once a year in the state to the south for those prices and the $15k ish price area 2x a year at the biggest auction in our state. I will also say that just because you see it online or an online auction that is not live where you can phone in and bid, doesn't man it actually happened the way it says it did or at all. Area also means a lot. Tall horses sell for major bucks in CA and each area has it's own things it likes or doesn't like for horses.
I just went to a place in Colorado that wanted 30k for a finished mountain mustang. This horse had zero ground manners, was spooky, herd sour, and was horse aggressive to a lot of other horses. The trainer also doesn’t believe in lunging, ever, and exclusively uses Tom Thumb bits. I’ve never walked away from a sale so fast in my life. Insane.
I totally agree! There’s this horse at my barn, ( my friend leases him ) and she’s leased him for 2 years now. He came in grey (like a real dark grey, not a handsome type) for pretty cheap, now he’s a light dapple grey going for 80k 😐
The thoroughbred auctions make my jaw drop too. And so many of those horses wind up in the slaughter pipeline and sold for almost nothing. Rescue organizations that manage to trace a horse's origin, through a brand or lip tattoo, are sometimes able to see where it came from and what it was sold for before and it still shocks me how often they find horses like this.
Appears to be dealers looking to sell started horses to the uninitiated for maximum dollar. Reminds me of the equine version of puppy mill type breeders. The popular colors and many draft crosses. Modern ‘warmbloods’ for the trail. Horse Designer Breeds for the companion market.
These videos always have my head spinning bc I work with imported European dressage warmbloods and I'm used to 6 fig horses and its made me forget what a none grand prix dressage horse is worth 😂😂
Some imports at some barns make me do a full neck snap, but when the owner paid $40k for a 2 or 3 yr old that had parents who both were in dressage and the horse makes me neck snap because she is THAT GORGEOUS standing and just moving on a line and not even done growing yet I know the person actually got their money worth. I would have said it was the nicest looking horse in the barn, but sadly the rider was just not all that into horses and didn't have the most realistic expectations about how quickly they would move up in dressage.
Honestly, in the gaited horse world, the horse being able to pick up its feet, stand to be mounted, back, and actually do more than just stop and turn left and right by yanking on the reins is rare. I used to consign gaited horses, and a horse that could actually do all those things started at $5000. The gaited horse world is notorious for just throw a bit in their mouth and get on and ride, and if they don't buck you off, they're broke and safe for anyone to ride. I lost count of how many horses I had to rehab and retrain. That was about 15 years ago, though, and the prices have skyrocketed for minimally trained horses. There are a multitude of reason I am out of the gaited horse world, and that is just the tip of the iceberg.
I keep ending up with tenessee walking horse rescues. My best boy rn is a tobiano, and took way too much work to get where he is now. Though he is very skilled at automatically lining himself up next to you for mounting (ie from tree stumps, fenders, porches, etc). He’s a good boy but it’s like he’s got cobwebs between his ears
I priced my first horse (dead broke 15 year old grade mare) at $900. She had great feet. She was a very easy keeper. Amazing to do everything with and everything on (led around tiny kids bareback no problem) INCREDIBLE trail horse. She could go and go and go. Her spook was a *jolt and stare* Her downfalls were her cinchiness, her mare sass and 'testing' new riders. People were SO skeptical lol. 'Why? What's the catch?' I mostly felt she would he best suited as a child's horse, so maybe if a little girl or boy has been saving up for a horse, her price point could help them. I also figured since she was grade, conformationally she wasn't ideal, and 'good at the basics only' training made her value drop quite a bit. In the end, a family of little girls bought her, and she's teaching then how to ride. She's done cattle drives, 4H, parades, trail riding, and has the best possible forever home! I'm so pleased I made that decision and didn't overdo it on my pricing.
these people are ridiculous😂 im selling my horse for 12,000 and hes dead broke, registered, has good bloodlines, and can literally do any discipline, this is crazy that an unregistered prospect is selling for twice as much as him
I love your honesty! I learn so much from you. My horse is priceless-to me, but not to others, I’m sure. If I had to part with her, I’d try to find someone to love her and treat her well. Money doesn’t guarantee a good life for the horse.
That last horses price is over the ROOF. I have a horse at my barn that my trainer is selling for around that price. That horse can jump like 3ft and is registered AND is broken into. Plus this horse is a Dutch warmblood🙄
I work in the car industry, and your comments over "basic training" being listed as if its going to raise the price of the horse reminds me of when people list the basic maintenance that every car should have in order to run that they have done and raise the price of their car like $5-$10k above market value for a stock vehicle. Congrats you have done what every owner should do, doesn't mean its worth more - horse or car!
My husband is a hotrodder, and I've seen so much overlap between car and horse communities, especially when you see complete novices doing insanely stupid stuff because they saw it on tv, and they know absolutely nothing about the basics. These people are so cringey, and usually end up putting other people, or animals, in danger because they wanted to have 1 minute of fame.
I’m not planning on selling my horse but if someone says “say I’ll buy for xxxx” and it’s more than what we bought him and more that’s the only reason we’ll sell my horse
I know a breeder who puts a very high price in their ads. When i asked why, she said "Then serious buyers will enquire, not random aholes. Then if i think the buyer is the right one for the horse, I'll negotiate a real price for them." She said she once advertised a horse for 25k and when she met the interested party, and saw how serious they where about the horse, it got reduced to 12k which was the right price for the horses training and breeding. They got an exceptional deal for their money, knowing how she trains her horses. Maybe some of these people could genuinely be doing the same. But the ones you point out are hilariously bad
I payed 1200 for a trained OTTB that competed, not successfully, I soon found out why after purchasing (didn't do a PPE, ALWAYS DO A PPE!!) that he had severe navicular at 7 and was basically crippled. Had him for 7 yrs and eventually had to euthanize due to navicular and severe nerve damage due to shitty boarding facility not feeding balanced diet (they were cheap, trying to "save" money...) even though I was paying well over 850 at that time, 2017 had heated indoor arena
For over $20k I expect professional level photos. Would expect seeing the horse with enough pts in AQHA or other breed qualifier to be at congress/national or at minimum regional shows placing very well. Pictures of the horse where they are clipped and well exercised even if they are not under heavy work right now, but the photos could speak to their training and how they show out when it's maybe not "winter fluff" time. Papers required. Love when youtube videos of the horse performing or training are included.
Horse sales of any kind are ridiculous!!! I am trying to find a simple trail horse for an old lady (me) I have been looking for a gelding in my area using facebook. I have found that approx 70% of the ads are scams and this is just for the northern half of my state!! If it is a gelding they are small and registered or mares. I am giving up looking and probably won't ride anymore because it has been a HORRIBLE experience!!
That horse Dexter in the first ad sold at a local auction to me in Frederick MD called Wolfe Auctions he sold for 9k he was very quiet no issues but nothing special and the girl has just relisted him on Dreamhorse as well as several other over priced horses one of which is called Ace he also sold at the same auction for 6k but can buck undersaddle
Insane prices. In Norway we still have quite normal prices... allthough it has more than doubled you can still get a healthy , very well trained Grand prix level show jumper , sport breed that has a lot of competition experience on an international level - approx 10 yrs old for 50.000 dollars..
Gee the last one. I took in a 12yo standardbred brood mare with a failed racing carreer. With less then 30 days under saddle, I was working with her on a ranch and I did a bunch of trail riding too. Like you said, it doesn't take much.
This blows my mind! I'm from South Africa and where I grew up was mostly 90% or so maybe English riding.The cost of keeping the horse is the problem not buying and so often horses are surrendered to SPCA that are perfect health. The SPCA and ex racehorse rescue were phenomenal. They do a home check and speak at length with you to match you to the right horse eg if you want to jump they will let you try out the horses that are showing promise with jumping. Any issues they outright will tell you - total honesty. They have trainers that volunteer to work with the horses before they are homed. The SPCA keeps ownership of all horses you full time foster only and return the pony or horse it's illegal to sell them as you don't own them. I remember an SPCA pony at my yard was a provincial show jumping champion and there was actually a list to foster him for when the little girl outgrew him! A lot of thoroughbreds come free retired from the track but you have to know how to bring them down and restart the training on them basically. And they often suffer joint issues by their late teens from being raced too young. But many are superb eventers, show jumpers and dressag horses that take their owners to the top! All these horses need homes and are free! And I've seen them arrive at my yard with more experience and breeding and even looks than the horses for sale here 😅
My friend's sister trains youngsters, they have peak purebred dressage breeding, registered, come with a clean bill of health, got trained professionally on the ground and under the saddle in dressage by her and showed several times. They go for 25k - 75k. I don't think i'd ever pay more than 3k for a cross with basic training tbh. 😅
I just went to the Lazy Oaks website. Yes, there is nothing about any of their horses that warrants a price above $10K. All descriptions read about the same. All are pre-vet checked. They write about their "program." trying to sound like Clinton Anderson. They are marketing to total beginners with money, who are easily scammed.
I got my first horse (sadly don’t have him any more) a few years back. He was $5.5k and not worth that at the time. He had some behavioural issues that were swept under the rug using a light sedative. We did a lot of training, I was a new rider at the time as well so I learnt alot with him. By the time he was sold (without my permission) he would have been worth what we paid.
The Best horse i ever had was a $100. Grulla Mustang 15. h Gelding, adopted from the BLM. Great conformation, sweet, calm & smooth moving. 1 day i came out early and saw him doing a perfect Piaffe all along the fence-line, trying to get his herd mates to come see him... sure wish i'd had a camera.
Over paying is a trail horse for 25 grand 15 yrs old, a prospect show horse filly, or colt 7 months for 90 grand you can pay for prospects but it’s a gamble if it makes show which certain disciplines take 2 yrs with pro training 6 grand great deal be proud.
As far as i know AQHA is for purebred quarters unless they have added a chapter for halfbred quarters but i cant understand why. Anything other that a purebred doesnt qualify to be registered.
Everyone thinks trail is so easy, but it can mean so many different things. Trail to me isn't just a mile walk around a pasture. I want a trail horse that goes out alone for hours, traffic safe or has some exposure, almost stops on a dime, willing but not too forward.
The Appalloosa is for sure a horse flipper. The wording of their add is almost identical to one in her previous video except it was a 5 year old kid, but seriously almost identical verbiage and way of describing the atridbutes of the horse. All flowery overwording to dance around the fact of no real training to justify the price. Edit. LOL funny enough I paused the video to make this comment just seconds before she pointed this out and cut to the other video I was talking about. 🤣
I love how all of these peoples’ major selling points are just fun and random shit I do with my own horses. Like congrats your horse can do basic normal shit. It definitely does not make them worth their own weight in gold 😂
I remember when you could good, solid, well trained horses for $500. Back then, you didn't see near the problem with horse neglect (I'm old, I might be mis-remembering). Back then, when prices lower, it seemed that there were less backyard breeders; because people didn't see the dollar signs. I see adds for 20+ year old "pasture pets" for big bucks. When people can't get their asking price, they tend to abandon their horses because they can't afford the hay. Around here, people always list their horse as a "Mountain Horse." All that tells me is that tells me is they've watched "The Man From Snowy River."
got a 4 yo, well bred, good personality and mind, aqha mare, gentle, has amazing western pleasure studs, gallops to see you (my other horses don't) beautiful sorrel and can do all around. Only 6200 and that was about 5 days ago.
honestly this video made me feel better about a situation from when i was a kid when my dad and his ex lost a horse, the ex kept claiming he was worth 30k yet he had nothing going for him besides some training, maybe his bloodline, and his color.
About the appaloosa, why would you bay a horse that can stand stil for HOURS. How whould they know unless you try that out and why would any horse stand still for hours? Only that whould be a red flag for me( sad, sad, horse)
These horse sale vids are always interesting, but what I’d love to see you do a video on is the big horse auctions like Fasig Tipton, where year old horses that have done literally nothing in their lives besides play in a field, sell for MILLIONS of dollars. Just last weekend at the Saratoga Fasig Tipton a colt that had famous parents sold for 4 million dollars. He is a year old, not even done growing, and more often than not just because the parents were special doesn’t mean the offspring will be too. Zenyatta’s offspring are prime examples of this, none of them were great racehorses. I feel like the insane prices they get at the auction are also why thoroughbreds are currently overbred disasters (this is coming from someone who owns an ottb and loves her to death, but looking at her papers, it’s pretty yikes, and I strongly believe it contributes to soundness issues as well both for her and the breed overall)
I was just talking about Zenyetta with a friend the other day. I’ll give them credit that they gave her a few breaks but it’s still quite sad that between 2011 and 2023 she was rarely ever _not_ pregnant. It rubs me the wrong way when any breeder (from any industry and with any animal) breeds the animal immediately after they’ve given birth. Being pregnant is miserable, especially when you have absolutely no choice in the matter. Zenyetta was being bred often just a month or two after giving birth, and I just find that really off-putting.
A lot of people put AQHA when they just mean Quarter Horse, it's so annoying -_- that and APHA when they just mean Paint Horse, babe .. that's not a breed!
Damn, you gotta do an episode of finding the lowest and the highest priced horses and see if there are any ridiculous ads among those. PLEASE. That last one makes me think we can find a ton of bamboozling stuff. XD
Here in germany prices like 20.000-75.000€ for a good trained dressage horse are normal 🥲 i payed 23.100€ for a dutch Level 3 dressage horse. And he was the cheap one because he has shivering and kissing Spines because of excessive competitioning. It's sad, that these prices are like "normal" here 😢
Oh i forgot that he had ulcers in his stomache and really badly made teeth. After they knew he has kissing spines and shivering they stopped training and feeding him like he would've needed. I only saw Videos and fotos of him. They shipped him and as he arrived he was a walking skelletton
I am gobsmacked how much people are selling horses for. I paid $2,000 for my TWH 9 years ago and he's registered. If this is the way it is, I will never be able to afford another horse again.
I'm not a horse expert, but I'd venture to say many 'overpriced' horse-sellers are the same people that list their 30 year old pickup for $10k as a "classic". Unfortunately far too many people today grossly overvalue their possessions. Of course, 'flippers' just make this behavior worse.
Could you do "Horse of My Dreams" farm for the next video like this one? All of their horses are listed for over $20k, some even up to $60-65k!! It's crazy!
Also, if I remember correctly, Dream Horse uses AQHA for all QHs? At least that’s what it seemed like to me when I went to the advanced search. Also, I wanna add that I was searching for a horse (any breed) in my area (within 100 miles) over 15hh for under 10k and nothing came up 🙃 nothing. Until I went up to 20k and saw horses worth 5-7k, some barely started. Hate DH.
My concern is that the cost of owning horses is going to get so over the top that no one will be able to afford it, and eventually these poor creatures will end up being shipped to Mexico for processing.
I agree. 100%. the ONLY horse that was appropriately priced was the 24k one....the others were just completely delusional. I've noticed these outrageously priced horse ads for years and had many laughs at them...I wanted thank you for addressing it publicly though, because these people NEED a reality check😂
Someone in my area is selling about 15 chestnut quarter horses between 8500-15000, the dam is just their own horse with no history. There is also a 14Hh overweight fjord for 18k, he has been up for a few months and nobody is buying them, I wonder why?
I love when she said that just because you like your horse does not mean it is valuable I love my horse but you could not get over 3,000 I would be surprised if she was even worth that 😂
The most I ever paid for a horse was $350. The others were free. All great horses. The free ones were older and well trained but had some issues which was fine for me at the time. The one I paid $350 was basically untrained but has turned into an amazing hunter jumper horse. With a lot of hard work.
Someone literally paid me to take their arabian horse one time. They paid me in four barred rock chickens. The chickens have since died but we still have the horse
As someone who's trained ranch horses/rope horses, it's definitely not as easy as it looks. the last horse would 100% sell easily at 20-25k.. and you also gotta think about the economy nowadays as well.
I'm interested in what the training is or the end product of the training is when you say "ranch/rope horse" and what you see in the horse that bring the value to the $20K+ mark or what you look for in a ranch type horse. Pls note I do not have cows, but I have trained in reining and done cow work like cutting and moving herds on occasion when a local farmer asks or when I have access to a reining/cutting barn. Never done all day ranch work, day in and day out.
I'm in the same field and say they're only worth that if they can prove they're good. I'd need videos and titles. Otherwise, I'll get a cheaper horse and train it myself.
the person selling Apache is probably a horse flipper because they have tons of horses for sale, they don't know anything about the horses they sell, it looks like they copy past all their descriptions of the horse and they probably won't let you do a ppe
They are horse flippers located in Murrieta, CA, so are catering to rich, ignorant Californians. They did sell Apache to some idiot who paid the $25K asking price.
WTF is a ppe? Pre-purchase exam? If you are using an acronym or abbreviation that is not extremely well known, you need to explain it.
@@cattymajivPPE is well known. It’s a pre purchase (vet) exam.
@@cattymajivrelax… PPE is an extremely well known acronym
@@cattymajivPPE is EXTREMELY well known in the horse industry. Don’t be dense.
Love how most of those ads can be shaved down to "It's not a feral horse", incredible.
“Speaks multiple languages” I almost lost it there. 😭
I lost it 😭😭😭
I feel like the $75,000 horse was meant to be posted for $7,500, and they added an extra zero. Based on their typing skills and the description I wouldn't be surprised! 😅
$75,000 is definitely to much, but $7,500 isn't enough, especially for a ranch horse, and as well he's a everything/everyone kinda horse, so he'd sell easily at 20k-25k
@@bambilegacy1221From the description, I get the feeling he isn’t all that experienced. Plus he’s gelded so
@@DustyHoney possibly, but like I said, 75,000 would be way to much, and 7,500 wouldn't be enough, looks, color and bloodlines sell, even if it's a gelding, and roans sell like hotcakes, cause they are flashy and nice to look at
@@DustyHoney and also he can do alot and anyone can ride him, that sells very well also
@@bambilegacy1221I’ve got a ranch horse too. Nice tobiano paint gelding. Someone gave him to me for free with their trailer. Got my arabian for free too, who is also a good worker but prefers showing. And my gymkhana horse for $200. Ain’t no way I’m paying more than $3,000 for a horse that isn’t either a dead broke to ride, young kids horse, or my dream horse. And I could train my own kids horse anyway. Horses are way too overpriced nowadays. No thank you
WOW. All I can say. I paid $600 for my registered TB straight off the track. He was around 6 according to the vet and sold off as grade when they broke his wind. Luckily they sold him off rather than euthanize. Absolutely amazing animal! He had a great foundation and that's all I ever asked or needed from him, he was never more than a pleasure horse and he was happy to be one. He was vain and loved to hear his hooves on packed dirt, or echoing in a tunnel (seriously). When I went to college I sold him to a little boy that fell in love with him. I sold him for $800 and the little boy and my horse couldn't be happier. It was sad but I didn't have time for him and it wasn't fair to him. Could I have sold him for more? Probably but I didn't. I had the best four years with him and the little boy got him into training for dressage and eventually won a few competitions on him. He did love to jump. When did horses become so freaking expensive? Their price is nothing compared to the care and upkeep, makes no sense to me.
Totally agree with you! It's become ridiculous 😒 🙄
@@m6666I think it depends on the location. Over in Spokane, WA you can almost get them for free, too many in rescues, and kill pens are constantly full.
I live around that area cle elum wa and its definitly like that most people have too many animals to care for or wild fires get them@@ericaallisonc
It's like people are trying to get back money they put in the horse's care. "I fed him for like three years, I can add some of that in the price, he's been recently shoed and had his teeth checked, gotta add that since it means the new owner don't need to do it soon. Oh yeah I definitely need to get back what I paid to get him gelded" and stuff like that. I wouldn't be surprised if some people think like that.
@@shauxuhrwilsongrim My uncle owned a feed and tack store. He often said, "I can give you a horse for free and still make money". LOL.
$0-$15k = probably decent horse
>$20k = better be a Pegasus with rainbow hair and farts glitter
REAL.
I choked on my water because of this comment 😂
I get very concerned when I see this, people believe they get very amazing trained horses because they are expensive, but get beaten up scrawny green horses. It’s upsetting for the humans, but for the horse aswell
It's their own fault if they don't understand nearly everything about the horse before buying.
They obviously have too much money, and I say bravo to whoever fleeced them!
I knew better than that when I was just 14! I walked away from people who tried to cheat my parents.
I paid 6k for my AQHA Buckskin with some training. Raleigh got me feeling like I way over paid after watching these😂
Lol probably did
You did, our buckskin paint “bombproof” reining quarter house had years of training, plus she had the worlds most comfortable back, we overpaid because the owner was on the fence about selling but was still only $2100, and that was in California. 😂
@@ericaallisonc I Paid 1.5k for my horse she was trained and a good horse loved kid ms she was so gentle miss her
You didn’t really. 6k for a solid horse is the price range most beginners should be ready for.
I paid 4k for my friesian fjord cross, he's 3 years old so he didn't have any training.. so a lot of work but I wanted a friesian cross so I got one! He's amazing so far! He had 60 months of professional training so I'm excited to see where we go!
For that kind of money, “Boon” had better have my coffee ready when I come out to the barn in the morning.
Seeing this a lot. Young teenager horse trainers taking ex racehorses and taking hundreds of photos until they get a couple of nice shorts jumping three bars, then advertising them for thousands of dollars as dream potential.
I've seen cheaper horses with better training and better health. People need to rethink these prices!
For people with more money and heart than horse sense.
They say there is a sucker born every minute and if they can get one horse sold at the price they are asking then it can easily make up for that year's worth of hay costs and depending where they bought the horses, probably some of the cost of the horses they have as well. If the seller could never get the money they wouldn't post those prices. It's only because you and I know better that we would walk away like "they can't be serious, right?". Not everyone knows better.
Or it could be dealers doing an equine version of puppy mills for those wanting a calm trail horse. Been seeing various ones just starting horses that are draft crosses or resells that just put a lot of basic skills into them and then sell on UA-cam. @@blackdandelion5549
They are scammers.
You know it's good when they say "stands to be groomed and tacked up"! OMG, that had me dying of laughter. These people obviously have zero idea what they are doing.
Exactly! They don't have a clue.
If the horse is under $5k where I live the ad would need to specify those things. Picks up all four feet. Easily caught/comes to you in field. Stands tied. Stands for grooming and to be tacked. These are all things that would need to be said for a cheaper horse where I live or else do not count on them.
For over $20k I expect it. For over $50k the horse should groom and tack itself and only roll in the cleanest spots and never in a dirty spot in pasture.
@@blackdandelion5549 that's crazy, if the horse has a saddle on in the pics then it all those things should already be known. Shouldn't even be riding the thing unless they are. No one pays more than $1k for what's basically a wild horse lol
@@casdragon_5939 Oh, I am laughing. Just because the saddle is currently on doesn't mean it's been there for more than that picture. I've personally seen people saddle up horses that can't be farriered or can barely be led on the ground and when you make a suggestion the horse needs groundwork before the person gets on. . . .you are told to *insert nasty comment*. Untrained horses are being sold online for $1,100 at a low price in places like CO. If they even take a rider the price shoots up to $2,500 and it says they need a refresher. Where I live a gentleman was asking $7k for completely feral horses because of their bloodlines. Horses are so expensive now in the northern midwest.
You and I won't get on unless all of the proper groundwork is in place, even if I am doing it myself and want the horse to be super responsive and pick up their foot where I just ask and they do and soft on the halter and stand like an angel for farrier and vet. I like to toss that saddle blanket under, over, on the butt, over the ears, who knows where things end up? Walking on tarps, etc.
That is NOT how everybody else does it though. Some just want to get on and get a saddle on and get the horse sold or they just want to get on. Seen it go badly a lot. I don't expect a horse to be trained in simple things just because they wear a saddle or take a rider.
I was like what else she gonna do fly haha
In my day, (and I’m pretty old) Dex the horse would be a lesson horse that someone’s kid would convince their parents to buy from the barn for about $800.00 (barn would sell him cheap because they made more money from board and training). A lesson horse would be expected to be able to do most of those things, plus taking kids over cross rails. Plus that horse manages to visually combine some of the worst confirmation qualities of a quarter horse and a draft all in one.
Like they say at Elkhart auction, you can't ride the papers. No point in paying extra for the registration papers on a gelding unless you want proof of the pedigree for yourself.
While this is true, if you are buying a specific breed for that much money it's likely you may show in a breed specific show like AQHA only shows, AHA only shows, etc. so even with a gelding sometimes papers do matter as you can't get into certain shows without registration. If you are dropping $20K+ on a horse there is a high chance you show or compete at high levels as well and the sire of this horse may say "Has produced strong competitors like XYZ who won XYZ places in XYZ classes". If the lineage is good and you are showing at high levels it still can matter.
For me personally. . . .I have two unregistered horses or at least two I don't have the registration for. I am working on getting the papers for one, but the woman who sold the horse is a senior with Alzheimer's and the family is trying and shows her a picture of the horse to try and jog her memory while they care for her every once in a while. I am also working with the breed assoc. I don't sit on papers though and I don't show at National Levels. Not my thing.
@@blackdandelion5549 Yes. I guess that's sort of what I was thinking when I mentioned wanting papers for proof of the pedigree, to know if the horse was bred for this or that discipline and the parent(s) were proven in that discipline. Hadn't even considered needing them to get into certain shows. Not my thing either. I appreciate them all, but have always been a backyard horse person myself. Have known and worked with countless grade horses over the years.
Good luck with getting the papers. I hope it works out for you. Sad about the lady with Alzheimer's.
75k and speaks numerous languages? He better do my college work for me😂
a horse writing an essay is the funniest thought. wiggling his little lip on the keyboard
At a barn I was showing at, before I went to it I wanted to see what it was like, so I went on their website. They had a sale horse section, and had a nice warmblood 1.30m jumper. The horse was 19 years old and sold for $25,000 CAD. Another horse was listed for $15,000 CAD, in the past was a great 1.30m jumper and was 21. Another thing I notice is a lot of people think that their horses are worth a million dollars because of their past, if you're horse has done amazing stuff in the past, that doesn't mean their worth that much when they're old.
Yeah, I don’t get why people sell their horses for so much when they are easily a few years away from retirement
Insanity those horses are almost dead, I think horses that old should only be kept as pets and not forced to do things.
@@teijaflink2226 I mean older horses can still be ridden. I’ve ridden 23 yo horses that acted like they were still young. It just depends on the horse
@@teijaflink2226 19 isn't old for a horse at all . . . I've shown horses well into their 30's and won.
I don't think it's outlandish to value experience and health history appropriately. A healthy sound 20 yr old horse who has been well trained has clearly shown its longevity and could go for another 10 years. Paying for a proven record is not illogical. Paying for potential is far more risky imo. A green horse may never take you anywhere and will take years to develop (if trained properly). Some folks want a horse they can get on and go right away and that's not worth less. Devaluing solid older horses is sad. That being said....I personally wouldn't pay 5 figures for any horse because I've never had that kind of budget. There are GREAT horses (both young & old) for under 10k.
I like how there’s no in between in prices of horses, like it’s either really low (a scam), or, really high (a scam 😂)
Raleigh, you should do a video on bad training techniques in the show Yellowstone! I've picked up on quite a few examples of less than favourable techniques but I've never seen anyone talk about it ♡
Omg yes that’s would be awesome yellow stone is one of my favorite shows but it’s inaccurate horse wise lol
I live in Montana and most people here hate "Yellowstone." It is totally inaccurate in every way right down to being filmed in Utah!
@@KarenPaasche-qj6tf wow, it is? I didnt even know that
I would love if she would make a series about bad riding in TV and movies
@@Addyson321 bred, born, raised Montanan here! I've never seen Yellowstone itself but i actually like the prequels to it. Course the first one doesn't even reach Montana until the last episode!
What about the online horse auctions? YIKES!!! Some of those prices are totally insane. Just recently saw a Rocky Mountain horse gelding who was registered and certified sell for $35,000.00 for trail riding. I thought auctions were where you went to find a good deal. Guess I need to rethink this!
Some I watch online are real cheap and horses go for $800 and some go really stupid high, but usually those are few and far between. Recently the auctions where I live and the five state area have move with slaughter prices so if you can halter it and it takes a saddle, then it's going $4k and up if you can't see a limp. Major auctions like you described only happen once a year in the state to the south for those prices and the $15k ish price area 2x a year at the biggest auction in our state. I will also say that just because you see it online or an online auction that is not live where you can phone in and bid, doesn't man it actually happened the way it says it did or at all. Area also means a lot. Tall horses sell for major bucks in CA and each area has it's own things it likes or doesn't like for horses.
I just went to a place in Colorado that wanted 30k for a finished mountain mustang. This horse had zero ground manners, was spooky, herd sour, and was horse aggressive to a lot of other horses. The trainer also doesn’t believe in lunging, ever, and exclusively uses Tom Thumb bits. I’ve never walked away from a sale so fast in my life. Insane.
I totally agree! There’s this horse at my barn, ( my friend leases him ) and she’s leased him for 2 years now. He came in grey (like a real dark grey, not a handsome type) for pretty cheap, now he’s a light dapple grey going for 80k 😐
The thoroughbred auctions make my jaw drop too. And so many of those horses wind up in the slaughter pipeline and sold for almost nothing. Rescue organizations that manage to trace a horse's origin, through a brand or lip tattoo, are sometimes able to see where it came from and what it was sold for before and it still shocks me how often they find horses like this.
Appears to be dealers looking to sell started horses to the uninitiated for maximum dollar. Reminds me of the equine version of puppy mill type breeders. The popular colors and many draft crosses. Modern ‘warmbloods’ for the trail. Horse Designer Breeds for the companion market.
These videos always have my head spinning bc I work with imported European dressage warmbloods and I'm used to 6 fig horses and its made me forget what a none grand prix dressage horse is worth 😂😂
Some imports at some barns make me do a full neck snap, but when the owner paid $40k for a 2 or 3 yr old that had parents who both were in dressage and the horse makes me neck snap because she is THAT GORGEOUS standing and just moving on a line and not even done growing yet I know the person actually got their money worth. I would have said it was the nicest looking horse in the barn, but sadly the rider was just not all that into horses and didn't have the most realistic expectations about how quickly they would move up in dressage.
@@blackdandelion5549 Sounds like they were rich but stupid.
I’ve seen horses for sale for 50,000 and they were not trained or had been in the pasture for years and no longer ridden by owners . I was shocked
when you said every horse can trail ride, i FELT that! my OTTB mare who was apparently “crazy, dangerous, could never trail” now loves trailing! LOL
Honestly, in the gaited horse world, the horse being able to pick up its feet, stand to be mounted, back, and actually do more than just stop and turn left and right by yanking on the reins is rare. I used to consign gaited horses, and a horse that could actually do all those things started at $5000. The gaited horse world is notorious for just throw a bit in their mouth and get on and ride, and if they don't buck you off, they're broke and safe for anyone to ride. I lost count of how many horses I had to rehab and retrain. That was about 15 years ago, though, and the prices have skyrocketed for minimally trained horses. There are a multitude of reason I am out of the gaited horse world, and that is just the tip of the iceberg.
AGREED!!! I believe this is true across all associations and breeds…it’s disgusting
Videos I've seen of the abuse people are still heaping on Tennessee Walkers for "Big Lick" shows prove that it's still going on today.
I keep ending up with tenessee walking horse rescues. My best boy rn is a tobiano, and took way too much work to get where he is now. Though he is very skilled at automatically lining himself up next to you for mounting (ie from tree stumps, fenders, porches, etc). He’s a good boy but it’s like he’s got cobwebs between his ears
I priced my first horse (dead broke 15 year old grade mare) at $900. She had great feet. She was a very easy keeper. Amazing to do everything with and everything on (led around tiny kids bareback no problem) INCREDIBLE trail horse. She could go and go and go. Her spook was a *jolt and stare* Her downfalls were her cinchiness, her mare sass and 'testing' new riders.
People were SO skeptical lol. 'Why? What's the catch?'
I mostly felt she would he best suited as a child's horse, so maybe if a little girl or boy has been saving up for a horse, her price point could help them. I also figured since she was grade, conformationally she wasn't ideal, and 'good at the basics only' training made her value drop quite a bit.
In the end, a family of little girls bought her, and she's teaching then how to ride. She's done cattle drives, 4H, parades, trail riding, and has the best possible forever home! I'm so pleased I made that decision and didn't overdo it on my pricing.
these people are ridiculous😂 im selling my horse for 12,000 and hes dead broke, registered, has good bloodlines, and can literally do any discipline, this is crazy that an unregistered prospect is selling for twice as much as him
I love your honesty! I learn so much from you. My horse is priceless-to me, but not to others, I’m sure. If I had to part with her, I’d try to find someone to love her and treat her well. Money doesn’t guarantee a good life for the horse.
If that horse speaks multiple languages it's worth a lot more than 75.000$ 😂😂
That last horses price is over the ROOF. I have a horse at my barn that my trainer is selling for around that price. That horse can jump like 3ft and is registered AND is broken into. Plus this horse is a Dutch warmblood🙄
Ok I absolutely LOVE that you’re saying out loud what we’re all saying inside 😂.
Well for 75k I really hope my horse speaks several languages, went to Harvard and worked for two years for the NASA
I work in the car industry, and your comments over "basic training" being listed as if its going to raise the price of the horse reminds me of when people list the basic maintenance that every car should have in order to run that they have done and raise the price of their car like $5-$10k above market value for a stock vehicle. Congrats you have done what every owner should do, doesn't mean its worth more - horse or car!
My husband is a hotrodder, and I've seen so much overlap between car and horse communities, especially when you see complete novices doing insanely stupid stuff because they saw it on tv, and they know absolutely nothing about the basics. These people are so cringey, and usually end up putting other people, or animals, in danger because they wanted to have 1 minute of fame.
I’m not planning on selling my horse but if someone says “say I’ll buy for xxxx” and it’s more than what we bought him and more that’s the only reason we’ll sell my horse
I know a breeder who puts a very high price in their ads. When i asked why, she said "Then serious buyers will enquire, not random aholes. Then if i think the buyer is the right one for the horse, I'll negotiate a real price for them." She said she once advertised a horse for 25k and when she met the interested party, and saw how serious they where about the horse, it got reduced to 12k which was the right price for the horses training and breeding. They got an exceptional deal for their money, knowing how she trains her horses. Maybe some of these people could genuinely be doing the same. But the ones you point out are hilariously bad
I payed 1200 for a trained OTTB that competed, not successfully, I soon found out why after purchasing (didn't do a PPE, ALWAYS DO A PPE!!) that he had severe navicular at 7 and was basically crippled. Had him for 7 yrs and eventually had to euthanize due to navicular and severe nerve damage due to shitty boarding facility not feeding balanced diet (they were cheap, trying to "save" money...) even though I was paying well over 850 at that time, 2017 had heated indoor arena
For over $20k I expect professional level photos. Would expect seeing the horse with enough pts in AQHA or other breed qualifier to be at congress/national or at minimum regional shows placing very well. Pictures of the horse where they are clipped and well exercised even if they are not under heavy work right now, but the photos could speak to their training and how they show out when it's maybe not "winter fluff" time. Papers required. Love when youtube videos of the horse performing or training are included.
Horse sales of any kind are ridiculous!!! I am trying to find a simple trail horse for an old lady (me) I have been looking for a gelding in my area using facebook. I have found that approx 70% of the ads are scams and this is just for the northern half of my state!! If it is a gelding they are small and registered or mares. I am giving up looking and probably won't ride anymore because it has been a HORRIBLE experience!!
That horse Dexter in the first ad sold at a local auction to me in Frederick MD called Wolfe Auctions he sold for 9k he was very quiet no issues but nothing special and the girl has just relisted him on Dreamhorse as well as several other over priced horses one of which is called Ace he also sold at the same auction for 6k but can buck undersaddle
Insane prices. In Norway we still have quite normal prices... allthough it has more than doubled you can still get a healthy , very well trained Grand prix level show jumper , sport breed that has a lot of competition experience on an international level - approx 10 yrs old for 50.000 dollars..
My beautiful red roan gelding was $700 plus shipping costs..so 1250 total. He is one of my best horses.
lol I saw racing thoroughbreds at those prices, particularly the $75k one. Like ones at really nice stables with REALLY good bloodlines.
My thoughts exactly.
Gee the last one. I took in a 12yo standardbred brood mare with a failed racing carreer. With less then 30 days under saddle, I was working with her on a ranch and I did a bunch of trail riding too. Like you said, it doesn't take much.
These ads hyping up basic training in these horses remind me of dog rescue ads marveling about dogs knowing how to sit and walk on a leash
This blows my mind! I'm from South Africa and where I grew up was mostly 90% or so maybe English riding.The cost of keeping the horse is the problem not buying and so often horses are surrendered to SPCA that are perfect health. The SPCA and ex racehorse rescue were phenomenal. They do a home check and speak at length with you to match you to the right horse eg if you want to jump they will let you try out the horses that are showing promise with jumping. Any issues they outright will tell you - total honesty. They have trainers that volunteer to work with the horses before they are homed. The SPCA keeps ownership of all horses you full time foster only and return the pony or horse it's illegal to sell them as you don't own them. I remember an SPCA pony at my yard was a provincial show jumping champion and there was actually a list to foster him for when the little girl outgrew him! A lot of thoroughbreds come free retired from the track but you have to know how to bring them down and restart the training on them basically. And they often suffer joint issues by their late teens from being raced too young. But many are superb eventers, show jumpers and dressag horses that take their owners to the top! All these horses need homes and are free! And I've seen them arrive at my yard with more experience and breeding and even looks than the horses for sale here 😅
STOP WHEN I SAW THE DRAFT COULD DO ENDURANCE I CACKLED😭 theirs no way
My friend's sister trains youngsters, they have peak purebred dressage breeding, registered, come with a clean bill of health, got trained professionally on the ground and under the saddle in dressage by her and showed several times. They go for 25k - 75k. I don't think i'd ever pay more than 3k for a cross with basic training tbh. 😅
I just went to the Lazy Oaks website. Yes, there is nothing about any of their horses that warrants a price above $10K. All descriptions read about the same. All are pre-vet checked. They write about their "program." trying to sound like Clinton Anderson. They are marketing to total beginners with money, who are easily scammed.
The cat in the back round plus my horse is not registered
Raleigh - Every horse can trail ride.
My mare - Hm, hard pass.
😂 Love these videos, super educational. I wish I had this series when I was younger.
sameee
Even here in Wisconsin when we were hunting for a new horse for my husband the prices were insane.
My favourite ad was one I saw on Kijiji. It read "For Sale, Broke gelding, blind in one eye."
Yupp, he's broke alright.
I got my first horse (sadly don’t have him any more) a few years back. He was $5.5k and not worth that at the time. He had some behavioural issues that were swept under the rug using a light sedative. We did a lot of training, I was a new rider at the time as well so I learnt alot with him. By the time he was sold (without my permission) he would have been worth what we paid.
The Best horse i ever had was a $100. Grulla Mustang 15. h Gelding, adopted
from the BLM. Great conformation, sweet, calm & smooth moving. 1 day i
came out early and saw him doing a perfect Piaffe all along the fence-line,
trying to get his herd mates to come see him... sure wish i'd had a camera.
Id love if Raleigh could look at good adds too so people looking for horses know what to look for.
Over paying is a trail horse for 25 grand 15 yrs old, a prospect show horse filly, or colt 7 months for 90 grand you can pay for prospects but it’s a gamble if it makes show which certain disciplines take 2 yrs with pro training 6 grand great deal be proud.
As far as i know AQHA is for purebred quarters unless they have added a chapter for halfbred quarters but i cant understand why. Anything other that a purebred doesnt qualify to be registered.
Everyone thinks trail is so easy, but it can mean so many different things. Trail to me isn't just a mile walk around a pasture. I want a trail horse that goes out alone for hours, traffic safe or has some exposure, almost stops on a dime, willing but not too forward.
The Appalloosa is for sure a horse flipper. The wording of their add is almost identical to one in her previous video except it was a 5 year old kid, but seriously almost identical verbiage and way of describing the atridbutes of the horse. All flowery overwording to dance around the fact of no real training to justify the price.
Edit. LOL funny enough I paused the video to make this comment just seconds before she pointed this out and cut to the other video I was talking about. 🤣
I love how all of these peoples’ major selling points are just fun and random shit I do with my own horses. Like congrats your horse can do basic normal shit. It definitely does not make them worth their own weight in gold 😂
Like woah, your $20,000 horse can walk down a hill and not slip and fall? It can be saddled? So can my little pasture rat of an appaloosa
I remember when you could good, solid, well trained horses for $500. Back then, you didn't see near the problem with horse neglect (I'm old, I might be mis-remembering). Back then, when prices lower, it seemed that there were less backyard breeders; because people didn't see the dollar signs. I see adds for 20+ year old "pasture pets" for big bucks. When people can't get their asking price, they tend to abandon their horses because they can't afford the hay. Around here, people always list their horse as a "Mountain Horse." All that tells me is that tells me is they've watched "The Man From Snowy River."
I feel like Boon was definitely a scam, it feels like they’re trying to bait beginners.
got a 4 yo, well bred, good personality and mind, aqha mare, gentle, has amazing western pleasure studs, gallops to see you (my other horses don't) beautiful sorrel and can do all around. Only 6200 and that was about 5 days ago.
honestly this video made me feel better about a situation from when i was a kid when my dad and his ex lost a horse, the ex kept claiming he was worth 30k yet he had nothing going for him besides some training, maybe his bloodline, and his color.
About the appaloosa, why would you bay a horse that can stand stil for HOURS. How whould they know unless you try that out and why would any horse stand still for hours? Only that whould be a red flag for me( sad, sad, horse)
I love the ottbs ads saying how much they earned on the track. How is that relevant when selling them off to rehab and learn new disciplines????
These horse sale vids are always interesting, but what I’d love to see you do a video on is the big horse auctions like Fasig Tipton, where year old horses that have done literally nothing in their lives besides play in a field, sell for MILLIONS of dollars. Just last weekend at the Saratoga Fasig Tipton a colt that had famous parents sold for 4 million dollars. He is a year old, not even done growing, and more often than not just because the parents were special doesn’t mean the offspring will be too. Zenyatta’s offspring are prime examples of this, none of them were great racehorses. I feel like the insane prices they get at the auction are also why thoroughbreds are currently overbred disasters (this is coming from someone who owns an ottb and loves her to death, but looking at her papers, it’s pretty yikes, and I strongly believe it contributes to soundness issues as well both for her and the breed overall)
Racehorse sales are money laundering, they have to be.
I was just talking about Zenyetta with a friend the other day.
I’ll give them credit that they gave her a few breaks but it’s still quite sad that between 2011 and 2023 she was rarely ever _not_ pregnant. It rubs me the wrong way when any breeder (from any industry and with any animal) breeds the animal immediately after they’ve given birth. Being pregnant is miserable, especially when you have absolutely no choice in the matter. Zenyetta was being bred often just a month or two after giving birth, and I just find that really off-putting.
@@lumini3172people who defend the racing industry not giving zenyetta a break between pregnancies see how much fun it is to be constantly pregnant
Hahaha when I saw that 4th horse was in Murrieta, I already knew that it was overpriced & scammy.
Same! Im near there and they are Scammy Scam and the funky bunch!
please make more of these videos 😭😭
75,000!!! Better walk on water!😂😂 love this video!
A lot of people put AQHA when they just mean Quarter Horse, it's so annoying -_- that and APHA when they just mean Paint Horse, babe .. that's not a breed!
Damn, you gotta do an episode of finding the lowest and the highest priced horses and see if there are any ridiculous ads among those. PLEASE. That last one makes me think we can find a ton of bamboozling stuff. XD
Those last people were 400% high when they made that ad
Here in germany prices like 20.000-75.000€ for a good trained dressage horse are normal 🥲 i payed 23.100€ for a dutch Level 3 dressage horse. And he was the cheap one because he has shivering and kissing Spines because of excessive competitioning. It's sad, that these prices are like "normal" here 😢
Oh i forgot that he had ulcers in his stomache and really badly made teeth. After they knew he has kissing spines and shivering they stopped training and feeding him like he would've needed. I only saw Videos and fotos of him. They shipped him and as he arrived he was a walking skelletton
I am gobsmacked how much people are selling horses for. I paid $2,000 for my TWH 9 years ago and he's registered. If this is the way it is, I will never be able to afford another horse again.
That was insane!
Inlove how some ppl are like "has been ridden since 3/2... like... thanks to let me know that you destroyed this horse🤡
Yeah they tell you the horse can do all this and then you find out they cant
I completely lost it when it said “speaks numerous languages”
i think my fav part of these videos is seeing the kitty in the back
I always say a horse is worth what you can sell it for. If someone pays these prices then good for the seller.
Your black kitty in the background is ADORABLE!
The 75,000$ horse could pay off my mortgage
In my country a normal horse normaly costs around 5000€ to 20.000€ and an rescue starts at 800€.
“That horse better kiss me every time I go see it.” HAHAHAHAHA omg that made me laugh so hard. 😂 Love your content, Raleigh!! ❤
a while ago, i tried that horse named dex. he was awful. didnt even walk in a straight line. i didnt even trot him. he was 100% not worth 20k
I'm not a horse expert, but I'd venture to say many 'overpriced' horse-sellers are the same people that list their 30 year old pickup for $10k as a "classic". Unfortunately far too many people today grossly overvalue their possessions. Of course, 'flippers' just make this behavior worse.
Pov: you put the video in 2x speed on the last ad because they probably put more effort into that whole entire NOVEL than the horse's training
i lost it when i read speaks several languages.made me actually read the add
Could you do "Horse of My Dreams" farm for the next video like this one? All of their horses are listed for over $20k, some even up to $60-65k!! It's crazy!
Also, if I remember correctly, Dream Horse uses AQHA for all QHs? At least that’s what it seemed like to me when I went to the advanced search.
Also, I wanna add that I was searching for a horse (any breed) in my area (within 100 miles) over 15hh for under 10k and nothing came up 🙃 nothing. Until I went up to 20k and saw horses worth 5-7k, some barely started. Hate DH.
Hold up, he picks up All Four Feet for the farrier??? I'm listening...
My concern is that the cost of owning horses is going to get so over the top that no one will be able to afford it, and eventually these poor creatures will end up being shipped to Mexico for processing.
I agree. 100%. the ONLY horse that was appropriately priced was the 24k one....the others were just completely delusional. I've noticed these outrageously priced horse ads for years and had many laughs at them...I wanted thank you for addressing it publicly though, because these people NEED a reality check😂
Someone in my area is selling about 15 chestnut quarter horses between 8500-15000, the dam is just their own horse with no history. There is also a 14Hh overweight fjord for 18k, he has been up for a few months and nobody is buying them, I wonder why?
I love when she said that just because you like your horse does not mean it is valuable I love my horse but you could not get over 3,000 I would be surprised if she was even worth that 😂
The most I ever paid for a horse was $350. The others were free. All great horses. The free ones were older and well trained but had some issues which was fine for me at the time. The one I paid $350 was basically untrained but has turned into an amazing hunter jumper horse. With a lot of hard work.
Someone literally paid me to take their arabian horse one time. They paid me in four barred rock chickens. The chickens have since died but we still have the horse
The best horses I've ever ridden and worked with were the cheapest ones.
As someone who's trained ranch horses/rope horses, it's definitely not as easy as it looks. the last horse would 100% sell easily at 20-25k.. and you also gotta think about the economy nowadays as well.
I'm interested in what the training is or the end product of the training is when you say "ranch/rope horse" and what you see in the horse that bring the value to the $20K+ mark or what you look for in a ranch type horse.
Pls note I do not have cows, but I have trained in reining and done cow work like cutting and moving herds on occasion when a local farmer asks or when I have access to a reining/cutting barn. Never done all day ranch work, day in and day out.
I'm in the same field and say they're only worth that if they can prove they're good. I'd need videos and titles. Otherwise, I'll get a cheaper horse and train it myself.