Forever FlexSoft Laser Printer Self Weeding Transfer Papers Are They Any Good
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- In this video we take a look at the Forever Flex Soft Laser T Shirt Transfers and see if they are a good addition to your t shirt business.
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Dude seriously. Thank you for this video. 12 years make me feel good and you’re doing it yourself
I have seen heaps of these videos about this paper, but you have explained the process in English! I finally understand how to use it! Thanks Martin.
Thank you SO much for posting this. I’ve used sooooo many brands of weedless, and all were fails. This might change my life.
Been trying to find a video like this, you've done it again. Brilliant thank you
I really am grateful for you and your time in sharing with us!
One of the most informative videos I've seen on this topic. Thank you.
Hi Martin i attended a road show hear in Australia 12 months ago about this and i must say it was amazing i have yet to try but im sure it will meet your expectations all the best.
I hope this is in your DVD look really captivating, learn something new everyday.
Brilliant video Martin , really looking forward to the next 👍
Cheers
Thank you for this great and insightful video.
This is very interesting indeed. I would actually go so far as to call it a game changer.
Thanks Martin
I'll know more when i've fully tested it Dug. Keep watching.
So just using an oki data laser printer with the toner ink, just design and print on this paper do the two part process and then use the transfer to on garment and press?
Muy buena explicación, espero sigas haciendo más videos con diferentes artículos 👍👍👍👍
Hopefully i can invest in this type of set up soon! great video!
Very good presentation. You technique and speaking ability is excellent. Cheers!
Thanks bud
Great video, very informative, thanks!
Your informations helps me. Thankyou ..
looking forward for your next video to see the entire process. Thanks
Thanks for watching.
gr8 job gr8 advices and testing you are doing martin ,youtubers are charging money for such information keep it up .
subscribed .
Thanks Anas.
Cheers
Martin
Thanks for doing this, looking forward to the follow up
Yes, it will be interesting John.
its a great product, i had a plain laser printer and had problems with the heater drum, but when i invested into an OKI printer which is made for these type of transfer products its amazing for detailed 1-5 pc jobs, great video as always
where can you buy an OKI printer?
What ok printer would be good enough?
Thanks for your video is very helpful . 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Hello again! I was looking to buy your dvds but I can’t found them, the guide for mugs and for t-shirt also! Thank you! I appreciate what you do for us!
I took them online courses from umedy! Thank you!
Thank you. Great content 👍🙏
Great video and thanks for sharing your experience in this business. Can you put the links to all the equipment they sent you please.
Love love your videos very informative
Glad you like them!
after watching many videos on this paper YOUR video made me decide to invest in a starter pack from my vendor. Thanks!
Hope you do good bud.
Martin Butler um. Im not a "bud" lol...i guess im a "buddette?"
Thanks Martin.
I enjoyed your video :)
Love it. Do you have a video on this starting form the beginning?
Awesome you have more videos yay
Looking forward to the next video.. I use the Forever paper with my C711wt white toner printer and think it's great!
It seems a good product.
Cheers
Martin
Very impressive Martin . Looks like a good product .
Cheers Pete.
I'll know more when it's washed a few times Pete.
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS AND I ACTUALLY LEARNT A LOT FROM YOU... THANK YOU
Superb
did the supplier state they offer sample sheets . might be good for my laser that is sitting here doing little . can't wait for the next upload Martin. It will be better than manufactures as you starting from fresh with no previous use.
Tony B you are able to get samples from distribution partners worldwide. best is to check www.blacktonertransfer.com and ask there for a dealer in your region.
cut the 1st 2 min out, thanks for illustrating the shirts good job with that!
Good video.. thanks.
Useful info as always.
Thanks Perry.
Any tips on pricing and tips will help . Thank you
Great video Martin,
I have used the Forever Flex Soft Transfer paper (the single color sheets) and they can be used with a basic monochrome laser printer. The learning curve is finding the correct temperature and pressure as well as the peeling of the A and B sheets during the "marrying" step. But once you have those figured out it is a nice system.
For the full color printing you will need a white toner printer and Oki is just now releasing a new white toner printer the Oki PRO 8432WT.
Thanks again,
Paul
Thanks for the info Paul. I have their guidelines but as you said, it's a learning curve for everyone as people have different equipment and the times can vary a bit.
Cheers
Martin
Martin Butler I cant wait to watch the follow-up Martin but I'm also fascinated with the info above. I have an old monochrome laser packed away and wonder if its worth dragging it out now. will watch on with interest. thanks
Martin Butler oki printers are very expensive stay away
I already have a couple.
Martin Butler whicch one do you have the pro920wt or 711wt printer cheers cant wait for your next video. so excited
Nice Specials hat
Mr Martin, First off, Thank You for all your helpful tips. I have something you might want to check out. I was told by one of my rep for transfer paper is that the (Neenah Imageclip Laser Dark Transfer Paper) has a better washability and the logo or art that you press on is much better that the Forever Flex Soft (No-Cut). Have used the NEENAH paper before?
I don't use laser Papers Robert.
When I use the transfer I can stretch the shirts without the transfers ripping. Any suggestions
I'd like to know how it stands up to several wash tests. Thanks for the video.
I'll be testing that as well.
Great video! Did some of the detail in the butterfly not transfer?
Not as far as I saw.
Can we see what printer you used?
Nice video mate. I subbed cause i like seeing a true British bloke doing this stuff. I can't afford laser printers especially white toner ones. I want to print white ink on black shirts etc but I can't do that with an inkjet printer. Would you advise screen printing or vinyl or just use a different colour than white and go with the inkjet? Stay safe mate
We mostly used Vinyls as I show in my videos when printing white on black t shirts. We just kept the designs simple.
Hi! thank you for your video. At some point in your video you mentioned that your Oki printer is not the right one for this Forever papers. My question is which Oki printer you use and which would be the right printer for a Size A3? Thank you.
Best ask the Forever people that bud.
whats the best place to get the transfer papers
I like that flex paper but now I gotta get a laser printer will look into pricing, where would I get the flex paper from , please advise . Love watching your videos .
HI Bev, I'm looking into it as well. Try a Google search.
Cheers
Martin
Hi Martin, great video, I am considering going ahead with laser printing, could you tell me what model number printers you are using, I did purchase a laser printer and the forever soft range but found out (even though I asked forever seller for advise) did not tell me you needed a specific Oki printer which bypasses the defuser, how would I find out what printer I need and if it will do what I need, thank you for any help you can give
They should tell you Dean. I didn't use them in the end. Too inconsistent.
Great video Martin, Thanks for sharing this :-) What kind of ink do you use in your printer? subli or pigment ? or does it not matter the ink that you use
For t shirt transfers, I use dye based ink. I have many vids on the system I have used for the past 13 years.
Thanks for your reply, first i did use normal transferpaper with my inktjetprinter ( single paper ) but that quality was not real good, so i will try now A & B Paper and for white text i think Flex-Soft ( no-cut ) paper....
thanks again Martin, and keep up your good work ;-)
Thanks for the great video, could you please let me know if the Forever Flex Soft can be printed using any laser printer?
No it can't. They recommend a £3,000 printer.
i use a black toner canon LBP6230/6240 printer it was only 70.00
Hi. I know that this is a 2 year old video but I hope you still respond.. I am planning on starting small making t shirts on demand and I was leaning on heat press + vinyl (vinyl cutter)... But this video really interests me so I hope you answer some of my questions.
1. How does this hold up against vinyl transfer using vinyl cutter plotter? Which one is better?
2. How the print quality after few washes of the clothes?
3. Is it possible to use 4 or colors like you can do in Vinyl transfer? It seems like it will be difficult to line them up unlike vinyls.
In my opinion, its not for beginners as its easy to make mistakes especially if you don't have their recommended heat press and expensive printer. I chose not to use it.
Hello Martin, I am looking into buying a Oki920 ... just watched your video & really enjoyed your honesty! Can you tell me, after using these papers, have you made the plunge to buy them? Thank you & Love your videos!!
HI Angie, No not yet. They are a bit tricky so I'm looking at the Magic Touch T one transfers that look a lot simpler to master.
I'll hopefully be doing some vids on these when I hear back from Magic Touch.
Martin Butler A gentleman in previous post asked you this almost same question and you gave him hell!!!
Hi Martin, where did you get that teflon cover for the bottom platen?
It came with my press from Subliblanks
Hello Sir, I've been a avid follower of your very informative videos about transfer printing and just want to say keep it up Good Sir your helping a lot of people like me who wants to learn about transfer printing. Anyways i would just like to ask one question, for the FORVER Laser Dark paper what printer do i need? just a typical Laser CMYK or a Laser printer with White toner? Thank You in advance.
You need a laser printer that prints white ink but its best to ask Forever what the best printer is as mine wasn't really any good.
How long do the pre-prepared designs last? I'm thinking of creating an inside garment 'label' for my garments and wondered if I could produce a lot on one sheet then use them gradually over a period of time? What do you think?
Yes that's a good idea.
Hey martin Great Video! Huge Fan!
Question: Did you try to wash it ? was it still in tact? I guess thats what will determine whether or not I upgrade to this Forever flexsoft
The washability seems pretty good but I'll be trying the Magic Touch Transfer papers soon as they seem easier to apply.
This technology really looks promising. Not sure if I've missed something but could any basic laser printer be used (even if limited to only black ink?). Could you give an indication as to the cost per transfer - including the A+B sheets. Thanks. Mick. Another great informative video Martin!
I'm not sure of the costing but you can use a standard black laser printer for the foreverflex papers.
Thanks again Martin.
Martin new to all this just wondering how this Foreverflex papers differ from your specality HTV vinyls. It looks like a similar result to the specality HTV or am i way off. Newbie here.
Hi, I have used this with the recommended time and temperature and also some variations but it comes off if I scrape with my finger nail. Does any other companies make this product? - thanks
no
Quelle température pour le polyester merci
Hi Martin how ever after printing if you pull the tshirt the design crumble and we get the lines. Have you tried finally to pull from the sides to see if the design stays in shape or crumble? Let me know or make a video to see. Thanks from Italy.
Hi Massimo, I am doing training on these papers at the moment and will update soon.
Regards
Martin
Hi Martin. Have you tried to do the entire process yourself ( printing and pressing). Did it work? Thanks so much!
Yes, jeff, check out my later vid.
hey martin loved ur video,
i would love to see a video for a laser dark no cut transfer, i hav been using oki printer but when i print and transfer fullscale image after a wash it seems to be cracking.
thanx
I did our first wash test at ua-cam.com/video/YyhFdtrGDb4/v-deo.html
Check it out.
Cheers
Martin
Martin Butler its a forever flex soft.
I want to see forever laser dark no cut.
Thanx
I don't have that bud.
Martin Butler i hope u will hav it soon.
Thanx.
hey Ramesh,
I could help here.
With a full patch print, you will have to rasterize those prints with a RIP like the TransferRIP.
This will leave small halftones so the design is soft to touch and provides a great wash fastness.
Without the RIP, I wouldn't use the OKI WT at all. it's like standing on one leg only.
There is any alternative to forever laser paper?
Hi Marin, just wanting a update on what you think now . If you have made a video about it could you pls post a link.
It's a very expensive set up but check out my latest vid on the ghost White Toner unboxing video.
Martin...do you have a rough idea what the cost per print would be on the a4...not including the price of a laser printer of course..cheers...dave
Not at the moment Dave, This is just a trial.
Cheers
Martin
Very nice.waooop Please, Can i ask you, what brand is your heat press mashine? Thank you
This is a Galaxy heat press.
Hi Martin, is it possible to use vinyl for nylon or spandex shirt? Or combination of both say 80% nylon 20% spandex? Also what can you recommend to use for dry fit or jersey or any sportswear? can vinyl or Dark transfer possible to use? Thanks Martin
They make special vinyls for different materials. Ask a supplier to recommend the best for the garments you want to press. I only use 100% cotton t shirts.
I had a word with subliblanks and they said you should be able to use any laser printer but it's all about temp ,time and press.also you have to think about cost as it costs a lot more and he said if your printing more then 5% on a A4 you would only get 50! Prints per cart.Im still thinking about getting this set as I always get people asking about logos with lots of detail and I have to turn them away
Daniel, this isn't subliblank and toner baser. the toner on a regular laser printer isn't that expensive at all.
also, it might have been a very very small cartridge when it only lasts 50 prints with more than 5 percent coverage.
on an OKI C711 CMYK or a C610 CMYK you would get roughly 11.500 prints with 5 percent coverage. that makes over 500 prints when you really print full A4 blocks of toner.
even with the worst case scenario of just 500 prints out of a cartridge... how much have you earned selling 500 shirts?
Daneil what Laser printer do you have and is it a white toner. Also how expenise is the ink and maintaince. Ta
Did you ever get these papers to work with the new heat press
No I didn't as they wasn't 100% reliable.
Nice....
It look good at this stage.
Hey Martin, what are a few laser printer you would recommend for the forever flexsoft paper?
YOu would have to contact them bud. I don't use them.
They are good for party events but for day and trade they do not fit because it is a two step system (Paper A and Paper B) and are not economically accessible so it makes the process expensive and especially can not stand the wash.
Hello very helpful but can you please send me a link to your heart press
I have review vids on my channel
Where can i buy this paper in USA? Thanks for all your great videos
You would have to ask the Forever team bud, I wouldn't know.
Cheers
Martin
Hi mate! Just wanted to know can we do multi colour printing using this method?
Yes they make multi colour papers.
which laser printer are you using ???
Hello Martin! Do you know anything about forever transfer sublimation paper for ink jet printer? Sublimation on cotton! I’ve seen your video but non of them seems to be using this kind of product! Thank you!
No, sorry, I have never used them.
Hi, did you get a perfect transfer? Mine went out like yours and I am looking for a solution. By the way, thanks for the great video. Edit: They are great now. The bottom table must be well warmed up. I used 145 degrees, and for transfer to the T-shirt - 150 degrees. It works fine.
I gave up with these as they are too unpredictable.
THX for answer :)
@@reviewthat maybe you better say this last thing . In an update? I see so much questions? I think also the price is to much for the results at the end.
Sir what printer should i buy laser or inkjet print ... Please suggest
the ones shown in the video uses laser printer and a special type of self weeding paper. Laser transfer delivers better results than conventional ink jet.. but if you want to save more money you could settle for an inkjet, however.. the results aren't as good as the ones shown in the video.. personally if I were to choose between the two i'd settle for the laser printer and use forever flexsoft.
Has anyone done intense washing tests? Is it really worth it? It is very expensive ... the process is difficult to locate because the plates heat differently and not all are really given the heat that the controller says ... Has anyone had problems with their customers by default manufacturing the shirt? No one has been claimed by customers for the wear and tear of the design? I understand that lasts 35 washes ... is that wash number acetable?
Hello Mr. Martin I just wanna ask you if I can use ferever transfer paper on OKI C612, Laser Printer ?
Best ask the Forever people bud.,
When buying a laser printer are you still using the original ink or are they sending different toners. I'm not talking about white just the other colors
I don't use this system bud
Hi mate, can I use a cheap black laser printer or does it have to be colour and a certain type of laser printer, I'm desperate to know thankyou
if you are talking about for these transfers, You'd best ask the forever people as the transfers are very temperamental bud.
Does the transfer paper stay on the shirt or is everything pulled away and only the actual image left? Thanks
No just the image stays, it's self weeding
Print may last 10 washes at best before they start to crack... the stretchy shirt will start cracking after a few washes.... i dropped 12K on the entire package of the press it looks great but it doesn't last 70 washes as they claim.. its fast.... and does vintage
style logos great cracking not a issue..
Yes, it is too expensive and is difficult to get right. Not for me i'm afraid.
Hi Martin, just watched your videos, great by the way. I am very new to this. When you say a little expensive are you referring to the transfer papers you were sent to try (only) or the whole set up including the papers and the printer (oki white toner)...thanks, reps arent always the most forthcoming as they want to sell sell sell....lol thanks
The transfer papers are double the cost and the printer is nearly £3,000 that they recommend. My laser printer was not suitable.
Hey Martin what type of heatpress are you using, price and wjere can i get. Also do you now prefer LASER vs INK JET
Chedck out my videos to see what I use. I have always used inkjet transfers.
Wow looks great can you use it on any laser printer ?
I don't see why not Dan but I don't know for sure. I have a couple of OKI laser printers.
Daniel Warren you can work with the most desktop laser printers, like a Canon 6030, OKI C610 and so on.
Hi Martin, i tested these Papers as well but my Results was bad and it dosnt matched the Quality of a Vinyl Print.
Do you have a Link for me where i can order this Galxy Automatic Press?
I got mine from Subliblanks. Give them a call to see when they are restocking.
Cheers
Martin
Hey Martin, how would this system work if your image has multiple colors?
I don't use this system.
What make is the heat press you're using in that video?
A Galaxy 16x20. Check out my other vids.
Hi martin how long will the design last on the shirt how many wash
We've washed it plenty of times and it's still good.
One other things, don't expect screen print quality when it comes to wash cycles, they crack after only a short period of time.
I'll be testing this as well.
Hi where do you get your heat tape and what brand thanks
From Ebay and its unbranded
i spent hours trying to make this work and ran into various problems in the end i couldn't get a usable result which is a shame
Yes it is a shame, I feel the same.
Hi Martin how to I order preprint sample for no cut heat transfer paper I would like to do the test before buy a printer thank you
Contact them directly as I did. That's the best way.
Cheers
Martin
thank you very much
What is the name of the b paper on Alibaba.com
I would love to know what heat press you have and where you bought it
Check out my other vids, All that info is there Bernadette.