Patti Astor, Fab 5 Freddy, Jean Michel Basquiat- Art in the Streets - MOCAtv Ep. 18
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- Опубліковано 26 гру 2012
- The video segments are excerpts from ART/new york No. 21 - GRAFFITI/POST GRAFFITI and ART/new york No, 19 - YOUNG EXPRESSIONISTS. It includes interviews with Patti Astor, one of the founders of the Fun Gallery in the East Village of New York. Also included are interviews with Fab5 Freddy Brathwaite, and Jean Michel Basquiat shortly after their respective shows at the Fun Gallery.
Interviews and Text - Marc H. Miller
Video and Video Production - Paul Tschinkel
Directed by Marc. H. Miller and Paul Tschinkel
Produced by Paul Tschinkel
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"Cause I felt like it"
-Jean Michel Basquiat
SaintVibe and that’s the trick to great art everyone
@@alexfxlll thats the trick to having a beer or bike rides but its not necessarily art
It means he goes off spontaneity and intuition, which is where true art comes from
Best comment ever my friend 🤣
Because he can't do any better.
I love how the interviewer tries to decipher every little detail and give it some extra meaning that doesnt exist and basquiat just says “no i just wanted to draw a belt buckle”
And what get's me heated even more is how he comments on his dedication to go to the museum to experience a visual reference first hand and try to dismiss it as a "slow process" rather than coming to a final product through short cuts and "because it's faster" mentality. Excuse my language but interviwer was just an asshole.
Indeed 🤣
In this interview you catch the true essence of the Black man which is angelic, intellectual, talented and cool.. then the white male which is satanic, jealous, irrelevant, and cowardly.
His response to him is so witty too
Someone who owned a still life by Picasso once asked the artist what the meaning was behind the painting. Picasso told him it was just a painting of a bowl of fruit.
I love the way basquiat talks
me too. he talks a little bit like a child but he surely knows what he’s going to say. he knows what he means and that’s all that matters to him. sometimes it’s as if what he’s trying to say about his art simply cannot be explained in words.
@@theo2oo4 reminds me of Luka Sabbat, from the same area.
@@salemcb Yea lol if they do another Biopic they should have Luka voice over for Kid Cudi lol
I thought he had a deep voice
@@capalotxkai2114 yeah me too, i was really surprised when i first heard him. but i’ve gotten use to it and it really suits his character. he finds his anger and craziness with in and puts it in his art. but he’s seems quite shy and a slight sense of timidness.
although he was actually angry a lot of the time since he’d sniff a line of coke every other hour of the day but he had a crazy life like that. rip
Basquiat is like a traveler from the future and that dense journalist simply couldn't keep up... he was like an old man who could no longer comprehend and completely grasp his world when met with the superior intellect and insight pouring from Basquiat's mind.
I've learned so much from looking at Basquiat's paintings. I know only about my own future but am sure that my life will be different from that education. I genuflect to the kings genus. Long live the king.
Absolutly,,,,Your description of this interview is excellent , I share your feelings,, I was actually so.... disgusted at the way this guy talked toJean Michel in such condescending manner, And Jean Michell saw what the guy was doing and handled it very well,,,, he was and will always be an artistic genius,,, in a class all by himself!!!! There are not too many of them in the Pantheon of panting at that level......
@@timothylee6859 What did you learn? If you don't mind sharing.
DILLA - m.ua-cam.com/video/dMDCPl5ZcJM/v-deo.html
Basquiat was inscrutable, playful, provocative, erudite, charming, slightly childlike but in a knowing way, and pained--just like his paintings. He and his work were truly one, and that inseparability is the mark of greatness.
He comes off Michael Jackson like to me
Wonderfully said!
It's preposterous and idiotic to call a shi*t work an art! Its just a manifestation of constant whining and moaning of folks for free lunch and opportunities they don't deserve. No wonder it can't be hacked in terms of Nobel prize for meaningful discoveries other than stupid Peace prize given to the likes of Obama who again didn't deserved it at all. But again, its the only area some folks could get the validation of greatness and feel equal.
The interviewer was SO intimidated by Basquiat's intellect; his body language showed it all. And if he didn't understand something, he would just insult the work- typical of an ignorant person.
"man, sounds like it's a slow process derp, derp"
Amen
Absolutely! Basquiat was an amazingly talented artist! The way he took charge in explaining and defending his art is quite impressive...too many artist are not able to do when they are face to face with a critic. The person who did this interview had absolutely no knowledge of the world or art, was horribly crude!
Racist.
Please stop calling him ignorant. He's a racist.
It's why he's using loaded language like "snatched" and "imitated", etc.
@@wmurray003 Yeah, interviewer was damned rude but JMB has the last word, as that kind of appropriation of an image (from museum to his canvas) foreshadowed today’s photoshopping.
"Well, I'm a slow person." No, baby, you weren't. We still haven't caught up.
basquiat was great but he was just a grafitti guy on a rail bridge adopted by fat cats. he added references words dates etc and caribbean colors.
Exactly. Trying to catch up now. He was so smart and his work was perfection.
i don’t know...the way i see things is that he was he was um he was throwing that towards the interviewer because he was provoking and doubting Jean Michel’s intelligence...but i guess that’s my perspective
@@rd264 not true he was a excellent portrait artist you have to know the artist and the full body of work to speak on their talent. P.s. if you dont get adopted by fat cats no one knows your work. He went the route most artist don't expect to go...but it is the only route to "stardom" in visual arts.
Disagree white people hate to see excellent work from black people it was so easy to look at and see imperfections that it was the perfect representation of what "they" wanted our works to be in the art world "chaotic and confusing." and about essentially nothing black.
Basquiat: "and this says parasites"
Interviewer: "parasites, meaning people?"
Basquiat: "no, parasites meaning parasites"
lol this man was really reaching
lol.
I would've slapped him back to reality! What an idiot , asking the dumbest questions! He was definitely an annoying PARASITE!
I cringed every time he would call Basquiat’s stylistic art ‘crude drawings’ 😒
My congratulations to Jean for tolerating such pathetic questions. He was young and could do it. A little older he would have walked out i imagine. Sadly people don't understand artists nor their process. We're not normal. That's why we are artists
😂
and the way he questions Basquiat's intelligence is frustrating
Basquiat was thinking ...."Who is this fuckin' clown?".
Thank you this guy is a prick
agreed no wonder he wigged out on interviewers...
He's just being white
Very
That interviewer thought that he was trying to insult Basquait's intelligence but meanwhile Basquait ended up insulting his intelligence.
love what Basquiat did, he's showed me not everything has a deep meaning and that to truly express yourself you have to let go and let everything out no matter how it may make you look
the interviewer keeps saying his art is "stolen" "snatched" "imitating" "probably copied" like WTF
we have white people like Picasso who was deemed to be a genius at his time for using African tribal masks as an "influence" to cubism. meanwhile actual African artists like Jean are questioned for his intelligence? I hate it here
@@89706 I think his lack of any idea on art is to blame for it, maybe he was told to throw a "dig" at him here and there, which none of them got through. Glad they shot this though.
Dingus Khan Right!? Totally different set of questions. And ignorant. He doesn’t know John Henry.
@@89706 for real, this fuckimg guy man
TOTALLY peeping that, "snatched" "Stolen" subtle racist inferences there....and the belt buckle part the interviewer was like, totally trying to belittle JMB. id LOVE to kno what became of this guy (the interviewer, not JMB lol)
Lmfao I love Basquiat because he embodies everything a true artist is! He is such a free spirit with a brilliant mind and deep awareness. That’s exactly what artist do they absorb everything around them and then they transposed it through their own expression and his energy is so fantastic and he’s young and full of passion and light what a great personality he has he’s such a light
he really loved his art and talking about it... you can tell in the way he got excited when he spoke about, or when someone appreciated it. He completely believed spontaneity in his art, and this guy just could not grasp that. Like this kid just sat around in turmoil for days before he would write a word or drawer a figure... its like he over prepared thinking this kid was like Da Vinci taking years to draw the 16th chapel... he purely loved art and making it and you can tell in his voice and body language how proud he was to be a part of it... wow.. he is just soo young though..
Why did PBS send the weirdest and most culturally inept fella to interview a master of art???
Because the master of art he was interviewing was young and black. I'm sorry if my answer is blunt but it's the truth.
@@soulsaproductions2024 They sent an unqualified individual because he was young and black? That makes no sense. He was equally inept when interviewing Patti. He's clearly out of touch with ANYTHING artistic or culturally driven within a place like NYC. He's just generally uneducated and underexposed. I'll concede to the fact that a truly qualified person wasn't likely to be hired by OPB in 1982. They weren't even using qualified sources in any media that wasn't underground back then. No one was doing proper research/ journalism in the hood...and yeah, a lot of that was racial for sure.
THANK U i been wondering that all along here
This was for an independent film series called ART/new york
@@floordoctor Tyko I think you meant to use the word "racist" instead of "racial."
It's cool to see Fab 5 Freddy in this capacity. I was unaware of his expressionistic artwork. I've only ever seen him as Fab 5 Freddy, the VJ host of Yo! Mtv Raps.
Yes Fab Five Freddy has had an amazing life wow!
Boggles my mind realizing that there was over 1BILLION DOLLARS worth of Basquiat paintings in that building 🤭
Basquait, is the man. His work is powerful and has a shamanistic quality that that takes perception to another level. Truly wonderful!!!!
I enjoy his explanation of his work, the interviewer seemed to keep trying to find meaning in his work but Basquiat was trying to tell him his work is based of interpretations and expressions
Yeah, he had no interest in sharing the meaning of his work with that idiot. I wouldn't have either.
Wow. Amazing to me that Jean not only kept his composure, but kept his sense of joy & humour throughout this interview. & clearly, this is not a one-off. Jean faced this kind of condescension & stupidity day in day out. He was a disciplined, brilliant & generous artist. The art world is finally starting to catch up to him & to appreciate his work.
To me, he is a once in a lifetime artist, the rare creator, like Rothko, whose work will still be speaking to people 4 & 5 & 10 generations from now.
I think sometimes when presented with great art we try to find some deeper hidden meaning when really sometimes it 'is what it is' even at a surface level and that's alright. Basquiat had both kinds of works, some with profound meaning and social commentary, and some that he just 'felt like it' that is self explanatory. So glad this footage exists
forget that he only lived to 27, weird hearing his voice. def a genius
great personality, awesome art
tragic he couldn't stick around longer..
this interviewer's clinical approach to art gives me the creeps. ain't got no souuul
😂
Interviewer: "that's kind of a slow process"
Basquiat: "I'm a slow person"
I could listen to him talk all day he's was truly special and unique ;)
So I finally see and hear Basquiat. I love this guy! so sad he had to leave us so young!
I think the interviewer did okay...it's hard to interview someone who is as original and unique as Basquiat !!!
I had the pleasure of meeting Patti Astor last year and really love what the FUN gallery stood for. I started studying Basquiat's work back in high school and have been hooked ever since.
Basquiat was ahead of his time
One of the most beautiful humans ever ugh
The interviewer is so inadequate
Basquiat is very perceptive . Much more intelligent than the interviewer.
When I see Basquiat I think of my youth . I think of my mortality.
All because of us being peers. It's ironic tho .I was raised in Brooklyn
And his birthday is December 22 1960. My birthday was December 21 1961.
We walked the same streets. I lived at grand army plaZa 1 block from the
Brooklyn museum and Brooklyn library and botanical gardens. I see my youth
Watching his old interviews..
I think of a dope head
this guy was a genius, as a fine artist, i respect his thinking process and the finish of his work.
Fab 5 Freddy is such important figure in the hip hop history
Man I wish Basquiat was alive to joy all of the money his estate is worth and joy some of the money he made off his paintings.. You know what '' Only the good Die Young ''
JMB radiates intelligence, his laid back personality and just the vibes he gave off was so magnificent.
I remember watching a lot of this footage on vhs way back..Fond memories...RIP Basquiat
Thank you for posting this
Thanks for uploading this gem.
Jesus man....I'm a straight guy, but it's impossible not to notice how ridiculously attractive he was.
Just effortlessly cool and fashionable and ahead of everyone around him.
True inspiration for me....
Sounds kinda sus bro
Jesus I thought I was the only one it's like his whole vibe it's just magnetic, and his voice is so soft-spoken but he is very passionate about his work. He truly was gone too soon.
@avedic
Basquiat was bisexual, and had dalliances with men.
We need more people like patti now days
He could be here right here in these times. He was so ahead ...goodness Gracious
great portrayal of a great artist...one of my favorite movies.
My high school art teacher said he was a fake because he was the son of an account. To me the work speaks for itself. Best painter of the 1980s.
yes I read his biography. What matters most? The paintings or the the painters life?
+Ace Wall This is what WHITE teachers have been doing for YEARS !!!!!!! ..... Discredit or Don't teach about the TRUTH when it comes to Minorities ........ The Internet is EXPOSING THE TRUTH ! ...... They let the Black kids believe it's OK to be nothing but, Thugs or Thieves in Prison (for Street Cred), Rap & Pro Sports Dreamers, Lotto Winners, Weed heads coming from Broken homes, No Pappies around, Young girls ? It's kool to have Bastard kids using no protection ...... Look at the latest Black " Academy Award Winners ", ..... Check this List of Role Models out ! ........Jennifer Hudson Comes from a broken home with a Bastard kid, Sleeping around to Becomes a Known Singer in " Dreamgirls " ..... Denzel Washington As a Corrupt Cop, Even calling White People, Nigga's 94 times in " Training Day " ..... Halle Barry, Plays a Waitress Slut ! Trying to make ends meet with a Bastard Kid who's father is in Prison about to be Executed in " Monsters Ball " ......... Here's one for RAP MUSIC ....... Let's give a Black Rap group called 3-6 MAFIA a Musical Academy Award for a Song called....... " It's Hard out here for a PIMP ! " ...... SMFH ! ..... The system needs to be EXPOSED ! .... Sorry for the Rant. ..... But the TRUTH ...... Is just that ....... The TRUTH !
+V Watters She's an azzhole and should be ashamed to call herself a teacher. Just curious- did she say the same about the Jews/Holocaust?
Yes!
Ask your teacher... what does his credibility have to do with his parent's professions... then watch her/his mouth drop.
I have a lot of similarities with basquiat, same birthday, same heritage(haitian) and similar name(Michael), he was a musician and im currently a musician. didnt realize this until after i did shrooms recently. looked into his art cause it looked like art i used to draw as a kid. This guy even has a similar personality as mine. I find him relateable & inspirational in several ways
it's nice that this is up, Annina Nosei told me she had this footage when i met her around 1998. nobody had any idea there would be UA-cam :)
"Contemplative Black youth in a ghetto hat"
"And you had been er, uh, er, uh READING it?!"
"So you SNATCHED a few words"
smh
lifestraight That guy was clearly racist. It sucks that Jean had to deal with that on a daily basis. He deserved so much more than that.
Black people are very intelligent and influential we just never get credit for anything
@@KangKush Truth
When this fool said "ghetto hat", I was thinking to myself, "you mean a Kangol cap???". The "interviewer" (wit his anti-Black a$$) was obviously taking digs at Jean Michel Basquiat's work b/c Mr. Basquiat is a respected BLACK artist.
@@ciaranavan8915 I agree with your whole comment. You kept it 💯!
The reporter was painful to listen to...waste of precious time with such a great artist
Idk, I think the interviewer did him justice. I mean it is what it is. It would be hard to see the cultural significance of his work while living in the time. We probably take his work more seriously than Basquiat ever did.
This the quote 💯 I don’t even get mad when the interviewer seems like he just can’t connect . It is what it is
LOVE HIS WORK!!! He really was ONE OF A KIND!!
Just here to make sure everyone peeped how condescending the interviewer was with Basquiat…glad we’re all on the same page 😂
Basquiats paintings are about an emotion that they evoke in the person who's looking at it... Not about deconstructing it and looking at it literally like the interviewer is doing
"Im a slow person".......hahahah. Genius, pure genius.
Bless you Patti Astor for everything you've done ❤ R.I.P.
The way he talks reminds me so much of jimi hendrix. I always believed they were the same soul.
I thought the same but he was born when Hendrix was alive but definitely resonates with Jimis soul tho
Well, Im a slow person. -Basquiat
+Alfie Bart He was being Sarcastic !
art is the vehicle of self expression.....to repurpose someone else's art or any object is to give it new meaning - your own expression....to create something that inspires others self expression and meaning is to open source the visual - STAN Basquiat 🎨
The interaction between basquiat and the interviewer was very insightful, was very nice to see him field the questions. Gained a good feel for who he was and how he approached his work. . nice piece of history!!
It makes me mad that the interviewer is deconstructing details of whole paintings that he didn't take the time to contemplate prior to interviewing Basquiat. He doesn't seem to understand that he is talking with an artist in the purest sense.
He's been a favorite of mine for years. I think Julian's version of Basquait was interesting. Though I think a more innocent man in this interview comes through to me. He had great patience with the interviewer. It was fun to watch his reactions.
i feel somewhat uncomfortable that the focus of the basquiat narration is that his reference points are academic & classical. as if to say, "sure, he's a dirty ghetto kid, but he's smart & cultured"
+Cody S. I just read your comment .... Read mine ..... I worked in the Movie Industry for 30 years and worked side by side with People of this nature like the Narrator during the 80's & 90's. ..... When you're the 1st Minority in Offices or certain Groups .... This is EXACTLY what I dealt with Constantly !!!!! ..... I had to Speak up for myself and All at the same time, Walk a Tight-Rope in order not to get Fired ! ....... And this is the Way it was in the ENTERTAINMENT/ART/MOVIE/MUSIC business during the (I'm sure even before the 60's) 80's- 90's ...... But this is what it was !
i'm trying to avoid this possible truth behind the subliminal message :(
he wasn’t no “dirty ghetto kid”, despite what his disheveled and baseborn presentation would have you believe
Basquiat’s parents were non-ADOS and middle class. he was raised in a multicultural household where self-expression and eccentricity was encouraged; not your typical upbringing for a Black youth in NYC. his parents made sure to expose him to art history and high culture from a young age, a privilege most of his inner city peers would never receive. also his father was a high ranking accountant and owned a three-story brownstone in a predominantly Jewish part of Brooklyn.
@@omb3d80 important
@@omb3d80 Basquiat also attended one of the most elite schools in the nation: St Ann´s. So if he is ¨street¨ than so is the likes of Jennifer Connelly, anohter SA´s alum
OMG the interviewer is getting an education, and Basquiate ever so polite and patient !
If anyone ever calls you "street smart" they are talking down to you.
I don't think the interviewer was questioning anyone's intelligence, it just seemed he was trying to find deep meaning with Fab 5 and Basquiat's work and they were like "I just put it there honestly" lmaoo
it's important to remember that Basquiat failed his art classes in grade school, dropped out of high school, and then NEVER went to art school. his crude, impulsive, almost child-like approach to drawn elements is juxtaposed by his picasso-level eye in composition, color and intellectual depth
the interviewer clearly has no understanding or appreciation for art. it'd be like asking adele or whitney why she sang a certain note the way she did.
J F well said!!
From what I understood Basquiat is very capable of drawing technically and "cleanly". But he just goes with what he thinks about at the moment and paints it with no regard to what people used to think as the rules to art.
Basquiat could draw just fine, as some of his anatomical work clearly demonstrates.
Yeah, many don't understand that "art schools" developed FROM artists, not the other way around. Or to put it another way, true artists don't need schools, they just need to do their art.
@@Maius26 - Really? Prove it! Because if you can't prove it that makes you a liar. Prove it!
he gets a kick out of selling them art that actually depicts them as animals, i love it
"No, parasites meaning parasites 😁😁"…. I almost died 😭😭😭😭😭
Within very little that this type of art haha I like a lot, not only for art but for his true philosophy of life
I don’t think y’all understand how difficult it’d be to interview someone like this
that's kind of a slow process, well I'm a slow person 👑🏆⏳
Liking Patti Astor and the way she handles the interviewer.
Notice in the beginning they describe graffiti as something quickly drawn yet when he's almost done interviewong Basquiat he says "sounds like a slow process"
He's such a true inspiration, hope to have the same passion and drive in Art as he did
love Jeans art.🖌️🎨🖼️ just going all out freely
I can't stop watching a Basquiat
Much Gratitude .
Love Yeah Bro! Jean-Michael Basquiat genius on film.
It’s frustrating that one of the biggest reasons for artists being misunderstood, or worse ostracized, comes from media outlets & their journalists/interviewers being paid to ask questions being naive or just ignorant with their attempts at trying to find literal dispositions & answers.
Most artists understand psyche enough to know that even with their intent comes other interpretations of their work & that’s the beauty of it; once it’s released into the world, it becomes openly up to the viewer to either figure it out or digest for their own mental use.
Genio Totalllll !!!!
„Cause I felt like it” 👌🏻😏 pure and simple
I dream of owning one of his paintings
Thank you!! I was going to type a paragraph noting this is well, but you delineated it perfectly. That is EXACTLY what the interviewer was trying to suggest. As if Basquiat wasn't intelligent enough to have a knowledge of or interest in these subjects.
AWESOME!
This interview/video - as sincere as it is - is also in very broad strokes across the creative arts very much along the lines of the maxim, while adding weight to it: 'Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.'
"A ghetto hat" whoa the 80s were crazy
This "case of cringe" was purchased, and paid for in full, by the interviewer.
He kinda reminded me of a chihuahua: Yapping up a storm, stuck on a leash, unable to pull the master in ANY direction...and getting giggled at throughout the process.
The carnivorous bird killed me man 🤣
The interviewer is special
are these avatars seriously on these videos now ?
Basquiat's interviewers were trying to be so sarcastic and belittling but B handled their attacks very well wirh positivity and clarity. Made those creeps look like the no name jackasses they are.
I saw this interview years ago. I never forgot about this ahole and how they handled his condescension.
I also think they were trying to figure out the process they thought it was just him putting random stuff around there but not even him could explain the depth of it man
*****
When you know who you are, you can smell when it's coming.
daniel zapata there is the plite for "yall" you always need to figure shit out... most of "us" can see it. Or maybe its exactly what we think it is, not figuring on process, really just a belittling disbelief, an ignant, yes, ignant as in ebonics, attempt at discrediting JMB, exactly what he painted about
daniel zapata there is the plite for "yall" you always need to figure shit out... most of "us" can see it. Or maybe its exactly what we think it is, not figuring on process, really just a belittling disbelief, an ignant, yes, ignant as in ebonics, attempt at discrediting JMB, exactly what he painted about
basquiat was trollin him lmao
After reading the comments, I'm glad it wasn't just me. Certain questions you don't ask an abstract artist. Damn
I love this man god damn he is cool
i wish i could've been there
They always tend to underestimate us as intellectuals and behave around us as not being normal or as if we are not capable of creating something on our own... This interview reminds me sort of like the Miles Davis interview conducted by Harry Reasoner of 60 Minutes. Lol. Whew! MJ, Prince, Khalid Mohammed, etc..lol.. It's a trip!
I agree
When I was living in NYC in the 80’s a friend told me Basquiat would bring firecrackers to a show and set them off. A hilarious image with stuffy art world people. If it is only myth, I wanna try that lol!
lol Plenty wasn't stuffy A lot of the art world was underground
i love how he just presents himself as is. just being
Basquiat...THE GREATEST!!!
People don't even realize that the Schnabel film is based on the Article "The Radiant child" that Rene Ricard wrote about Jean, which made Julian jealous because he wanted to be the radiant child and had known Rene longer.
During the 90s, Julian cut out Michael Holman's facts, paid Rene a million dollars to get him to agree with Michael Wincott portraying him in a fashion that Ricardo said was a bit off but didn't give a shit about nonetheless.
Rene Ricard was no fringe of the art world as the film portrays during Mr Chows scene.
Rene was with Andy's factory since the 60s and would have only protected Jean from his paranoia of exploitation.
Here's where shits gets strange for Jean.
Not only was he shunned by the establishment controllers but by black people as well.
You had black journalists who didn't even want to meet Jean because he hung out with mostly whites or just being surrounded by them. These Black journalists could have also helped him with allowing him to say what he wanted without the worry of a white interviewer quoting word for word to make it a highlighted article.
The Schnabel film is not the real Jean-Michel.
That Tamara lady is the reason we have lengthy footage of Basquiat talking in his own words.
I miss you all 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
How about that Fab 5 Freddy interview and art! Classic!