Down to a Bike Throw - 2019 Sea Otter Classic Circuit Race Pro/1/2
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- Racing on the Laguna Seca track, Chris Riekert of Team Mikes Bikes describes strategies to capitalize on your strengths when racing solo against big pro teams.
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I watched Greg LeMond race here when he was about 16. Greg n his 37 year old dad took off the front early by themselves vs Cat 1 racers. After about a lap or two Greg's dad couldn't hold his sons wheel. I saw Greg look over his shoulder n see his dad about 8 feet back n saw Greg ease up. His dad just waved his hands n yelled, "Go Greg, go!" Greg put his head down with his classic sway motored away. The closest the chase pack ever got to Greg was about 1/4 mile before he motored away back to about a half mile lead which he held all the way to the finish line. His riding reminded me of way "The Cannibal" Eddy Merckx used to ride in the late 60's n early 70's.
Yeah, this format is good. I like having Jeff + another rider. The two perspectives through the race and after are informative. Thanks!
That last corner was so good. Good decision to go from inside.
OMG lacuna secca track! Done soo many laps here in gran turismo and f1. Man i would absolutely love to ride there! Nice video!
F1?
Formula one. Arguably, the most important racing championship in the world.
@@opioid01 I mean F1 racing at Laguna Seca... F1 raced at Indianapolis and currently at Austin. Perhaps CART or Indycars?
@@midnoob1650 Depending in what game it's possible, and also there are mods. Remember playing Toca 3 with the Williams F1 championship on Secca. (Also since then I know why it never happened there. Those cars are not really...trust inspiring at the cork screw.)
I played this track back in the day on PlayStation. This weekend I’m riding it in the classic. I still can’t believe I’m actually doing this. But I’m getting so excited the closer it gets. Funny we were thinking the same way😆 wish me luck.
In the middle of binge watching your content. By far my new favorite cycling channel. Amazing tips and great commentary. Keep up the great work.
Always enjoy hearing this! Out of curiosity, what's been your favorite video(s) yet? What would you like to see more of?
@@NorCalCycling So far after watching the latest 10 videos im enjoying the co-stream podcast style with Chris and Brian. Still watching more ATM. looking forward to checking out some of the older stuff to see how you progressed along the way.
So wierd... I just started listening to trainer road podcasts . 5th one in and you pop up! Amazing interview btw
Love the format. Obviously even better when there are two cameras/overlays to bounce back and forth from but having a perspective from two different teams and rider types is awesome. Jeff, your one brief appearance and attempt at sag climbing the hill was great for a guy like me to see as I'm way bigger than my competition. Its good to know that it's not about hitting the hill with speed but rather just hitting the hill first/early. Let others close any gaps but no point going into the red right at the beginning of what will be an effort that might get your dropped even when fresh.
Great video. Lots of meaningful content, very little fluff. Chris' explanation of how he took the last corner was helpful. The little dig at your "frenemy" was also tastefully done, really funny but not mean. Thanks for producing these!!
Smart move in that last curve 👀👀
These videos are soooo Good! I agree with previous comments about the dual commentary with Chris and Bryan. Supergood!
I'm not a racer and have no interest in doing it, but these videos are awesome. It's like Nascar on 2 wheels. Very fun to watch and the rider insight is great.
Great video guys, please keep em coming. Format is a nice addition to the solo analysis.
Absolutely loving the content! So frustrating that crits are not a thing here in the philippines. I have a race bike i use for triathlons but i really love the team tactics and mind games of bike racing.
GREAT VIDEO!! As always the commentary was great. It’s made even better by having both your points of view. Great job and thanks for sharing.
These are my favorite videos on youtube. Thanks for sharing! Keep 'em coming!
Great format. So exciting watching your vid's. Thanks!!
Really like your videos, even though I'm not racing (yet). Nice to hear what you guys are keeping in mind when doing things in a race.
Great video. I liked this format
loved the format dudes!
Another good video, great advice and tactics.
a bike race on this track is literally one of my dreams, I bet the corkscrew is fun af
Yes - i like this format
Great video and tactics, always learn from them. Any suggestions for an old guy racing the Sea Otter crit in a couple of weeks, either as a novice or age group cat 5? Just competing with myself, but don’t want to endanger more experienced riders on the course.
Awesome video 👍 will you guys do a similar coverage for sea otter 2025?
good format thanks ^
Excellent video, thank you for sharing
Can you make a video on how and when to do a proper bike throw?
Yeah, this is awesome! More bashing and laughing...smacktalk entertains :)
Love the videos man, keep it up!
Love your videos
How does one determine which tactics are bush league?
If I let gaps open up and force others to close, it's smart racing, but if somebody else does it to me, it's Bush league.
6:56 I laugh so hard am an Jamaican cyclist love these videos videos am also new sub 👌
As a racing driver that has raced here and a cyclist I would do anything to be in a race like this. Sadly had no idea that it was on
Ur right those hills are viscous no bueno dang didn't know crits did track like that
This was cool for sure
Topic idea: Alviso playbook, collecting and referencing points made in previous videos.
excellent race!
14:35 Bushley Tactics : lol yeah I also prefer when another team gives me a flawless leadout
I don't think Chris was expecting them to lead him out, but other tactics are much more effective when you have the numerical advantage. For example, why not attack from the back of the group, and come by the front with some speed? much harder to chase and much more annoying for chris. just dropping your teammate off the front can end up biting you in the ass: ua-cam.com/video/YIkm-8uGhPU/v-deo.html go to 5:35
Super Bushleague seems a bit strong. Would have thought it seems obvious to let your teammate roll off the front and see what happens. Looks to me that they did it a bit late though. They did force Chris to chase. Maybe he would have won otherwise. But yeah, attacking from behind seems like a better approach when you have the numbers.
BTW, at the end there, when he cut wide left for a sec to then go under to the right.... were you having to look back over your right shoulder in case the guy on your wheel filled that gap before you cut back to the right??
Corkscrew on a bike sounds so fun fixed gear crit here
Novice question: Why was it "bush league" to have two riders slow the field and let one of their teammates go up the road? @14:25 Is slowing the field what was "bush league"? I thought that was a common tactic at all levels?
Nothing inherently wrong with it, just a pretty weak tactic. other tactics are much more effective when you have the numerical advantage. For example, why not attack from the back of the group, and come by the front with some speed? much harder to chase and much more annoying for chris. just dropping your teammate off the front can end up biting you in the ass: ua-cam.com/video/YIkm-8uGhPU/v-deo.html go to 5:35
Ah ok, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you for taking the time to reply and to teach the rest of the group. Best of luck to you!
haha i thought this track looked familiar... you guys should race on the nurburgring next time lol ;''D
How many laps were done during the race? Was it a 60 minute race?
Liked it for shure
Awesome commentary! keep up the hard work. Its nice to see more variety, Alviso was getting a little repetitive. still a big fan!
Yeah fun format. You raced it well ...Those guys had 3 and they had to try and pull out anyone with legs left in the group with that tactic at the end. it's not chumpy its what you do to win when you have the numbers at the end of race and they won.. Girkins with the counter after your chase was clever but lacked original punch. I say stay on the wheel instead of swinging wide left for the final right turn, stay in draft, put some pressure on your race wheels with race tires to turn hard right and flick around at the end and you have it.
I'm seeing constant speedsover 30mhp, thats over 48kmh.
My top speed ever on my vintage bike is 40kmh and thats going downhill.. with a 46 tooth chainring and a 14 cassette.
I recently upgraded my bike, it's still not a road bike,but i used to do 16km in 1r 30min. And now in just 50min. So i think getting a proper rb would cut even more time for me.
How is letting your teammate's wheel go a bush league move? World tour pros do that at the end of races all the time.
Thank you! They literally only won because of that move. Chris had to do an 800-watt effort with less than 1k to go to close it which is probably what cost him the win in the sprint.
14:35. I’m trying to soak up as much from these videos as I can, and they’re super helpful for developing race craft. But I don’t get it: why “super Busch league”? There’s a team out east here that rolls up 5 deep every week and basically plays some variety of this tactic. They have the numbers, so they send one, everybody else chases, they send another - rinse and repeat. It sucks for us but it works for them. Keep in mind, this is Cat 4 - so maybe that’s a classless way of racing? I don’t know. Could you elaborate, Jeff? I mean, if it gets it done, is legal, and makes others work harder, isn’t that what we would do/want to do if we had the numbers? They won last week with this exact faux-tempo and roll scenario.
I can't speak for Chris here, but my take: Nothing inherently wrong with it, just a pretty weak tactic. other tactics are much more effective when you have the numerical advantage. For example, why not attack from the back of the group, and come by the front with some speed? much harder to chase and much more annoying for chris. just dropping your teammate off the front can end up biting you in the ass: ua-cam.com/video/YIkm-8uGhPU/v-deo.html go to 5:35
Awesome content! Topic: training to increase power.
first thought: I've raced this also .... Xbox, Forza 🥳
In a few videos recently you've mentioned about race etiquette and not interfering with the chase when a team mate is up the road. Last night I had a real problem during a crit with a team doing exactly that all race. Tried giving them a bit of smack talk to get out of the way but there wasn't much I could do. There were no other teams present with the same numbers.
Any tips on dealing with this? Is the only option to try and attack it myself and bridge across?
i mean its the polite thing to do but you and other riders/your team mates have to just not let them in. dont let them get in the line and push your way through it yourself. if someones breaking up your chase effort its on you to prevent that. bridging is one thing, keeping the line super tight and forcing them to stay out is another
Don't attack it and try to bridge across unless you know for sure you can make it. They are not breaking the rules by disrupting the chase, you just have to pretend that they aren't there and get around them so they don't slow things down.
Maybe try interviewing some your competitors on their training.
@Norcal. I see you as a sprinter but how do you adjust yourself in doing climbing to win the race?
i don't lol. try making the race hard all around so its not so hard on the climbs, make sure you're not chasing so you save as much energy as possible for the climb, sag the climb (start at front, finish at back) there's a few off the top of my head
For sea otter classic is there a junior class for 16 years old boys
Yes 15-18 road race, Circuit race, and crit
Interesting to note that both Chris and the winner had S-Works bikes but the winner had the lighter Tarmac with rim brakes vs Chris's heavier Venge with disc brakes. My opinion is that the race was lost in the all out final sprint of the heavier disc bike vs the explosive pickup of the lighter rim bike......
Sam's racing the Tour of California right now, Chris isn't
It’s about the rider. Just my opinion.
Lolz. Maybe Chris had no business being there at the finish and only got there thanks to the aero benefits of his Venge, plus the Venge is stiffer and would've transferred his sprint effort into speed better than the Tarmac? See how stupid that sounds? You're taking a race that plays out over miles with drafting, tactics, fatigue coming in, let alone fitness to start with and basing winning and losing off of grams. Maybe the other guy was running a waxed chain? Maybe he had a ceramic bottom bracket or OSPW? There are a million variables but rim brake people always think it comes down to brake type.
@@ryanspivey2453 While I do believe the rider element is the most important part of winning or losing, that doesn't mean having a possible edge at the precise critical moment doesn't pay dividends. It looked like Chris had it won (he even states it in the video) and I couldn't help but ponder if Sam's amazing burst of speed come from behind win was contributed even if marginally to having a lighter and stiffer bike (Tarmac using fact 12r carbon is actually stiffer than Venge's fact 11r carbon). I only mentioned rim vs disc brakes only because rim brakes are still currently lighter than discs.
@@carefulsum I get that at that moment, the difference may have been the grams or your point about the stiffness. But again, maybe Chris would've been 2 minutes back had he been riding a less aero Tarmac rather than the Venge. You can't isolate the entire race down to the last 50 meters and point to the brakes as being the difference. The rider's weight, power outputs, CDA, tactics, etc. would all have to be identical and even then, it could've come down to the line they took into the finish. As Chris mentions, he thought he had enough at the end but probably should've caught a fraction of a draft for the first pedal stroke or two. The weight of the brakes is so far down the list of things that matter in this video.
Mike bikes is your team now? Thought you were with team terum? Haha just asking
This is Chris' footage. I ride for Terun
NorCal Cycling Videos oh sorry, but yeah goodluck on your next race.
you were great in zombieland.
Why is the move letting the rider roll of the front not cool?
other tactics are much more effective when you have the numerical advantage. For example, why not attack from the back of the group, and come by the front with some speed? much harder to chase and much more annoying for chris. just dropping your teammate off the front can end up biting you in the ass: ua-cam.com/video/YIkm-8uGhPU/v-deo.html go to 5:35
Isn't this Laguna seca?
How do you guys stay at 40kph?? I'm having a hard time to stay in there. Any training tips for me guys?
Ryan Quiambao stupid question but do you use clipless?
Makes me wanna try my legs at it
Jeff your in the video💪💪 badass🚴🏁....you sand bagging son of a bicth..😁😁..🏆🏆🏆
👍👍👍👍👍
Top graficos
Busch League? Anything goes.
format is awesome and the length was too short ;)...seriously, all these vid drops lately are hooking me like crack to an addict.
Nice
>1K Watt Looks so easy in Ur vids
Continuously irked by camden from wildlife with the slightly too high seat
How to be a Chris Reikert and survive hilly races....
Hola
Longer are wayy better! Talk a little about nutrition maybe?
1st
I don’t like it was a bit boring don’t know why I skipped most of it
Thanks for your honesty. The content discussed is for people who race and want to be competitive.
@@NorCalCycling I don't race at all, but I keep coming back...guess it must be a sickness.
Nice video and good mix adding Chris (now _YOUR_ video might have been a bit less exciting...).
maybe because the road are so wide that everything looks super slow
Love the format and your videos. Great stuff to train in the garage with!