The Bible WARNS Against This Sort of Thing…
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- The Bible warns against this sort of thing… In this video, Todd Friel reacts to a popular clip of Kari Lake, and warns against the growing trend of flopping open your Bible and pointing to a verse, assuming God will show you the exact verse you need.
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Don't assume God will speak to you in this manner..... but, at the same time, don't assume that He cannot speak in this manner."
@@danpotter6140
Yeah, this.
Just don’t assume, predict and sniff about God’s moving, doing and speaking His stuff. Just live - and recieve. When He speaks - who wouldn’t hear? - don’t He give ears and wise heart to human? And when He ordains - who wouldn’t preach His Word? (maybe only ones with refractory hearts…).
haha🤣 that is the rabbit hole which gets me every time. God is infinite in His ways, who am i to say that He cannot do anything...but yeah opening and pointing is an annoying way to read the bible.
@@dcj4332 According to my biblical research, you should be driving out nations mightier than you.
There have been numerous times when I was feeling very down and I opened my Bible to the exact words I needed to hear. I believe the Holy Spirit does work in ways like this.
You may as well be reading tea leaves. How about instead you get on a regular reading plan and stick to it?
@@user-nj5cl6xs4n Not the same at all. You are blaspheming the Bible.
I agree. It's not due to a lack of studying that we can enjoy God speaking to us like this. I remember that multiple times at church, I opened my Bible and it opened directly on the page where the pastor was about to read.
Several years ago, I had been reading the Bible on a tablet while attending church services out of state during my vacation and hadn't used that tablet for months when I turned it back on and it was at the end of Hebrews on the verse stating that Timothy had been set at liberty. When I read that, my cousin Timothy had just passed away. Reading the Bible is great - whether you're doing a deep study or just reading a verse or two. It's good to get the scripture inside your mind and heart. God can speak to us. Yes, we need a good foundation in the Word of God, but you don't have to be doing a deep study every time you read. Just read, pray and yield to God.
@@scottjamerson9762 Amen Scott. The Holy Spirit works in mysterious ways and different ways for different people. And I agree, one verse a day or a full book, as long as you are reading God's Word it is a beautiful thing.
@@user-nj5cl6xs4n "Reading the Bible for wisdom is reading tea leaves." Unreal.
As a young boy, I suffered from ADHD and insomnia. At night, to help me fall asleep, I would read the Bible, and listen to AM radio Bible preaching. At the time, I hated the insomnia. Now, as a man of 59 years, although my memory and capacity are diminishing, I am able to recall the verses(in context) and their meaning. I am very grateful for what I thought was a curse - the insomnia. God is good. Always.
When ever I can't sleep, I just assume the Lord is wanting to engage with me. So I usually take that time instead of grumbling that I can't sleep but to read His word, but I read what I am studying already, I don't do the random open up and point, that is dangerous because it can be taken out of context and/or Satan just loves using God's word against those who love the Lord!
Bibliomancy is for people who do not read the Word and desperately wish they had been readers of the Word in a moment when they need wisdom.
This was me, until about ten years ago to the praise of His glory!
I read the Bible and read theology. It doesn't justify me in any way, shape, or form. I know near nothing. The pastor is simply wrong here by assuming how God might be communicating with the 5 people on the planet that actually want to know him. Satan know scripture better than us all!
Bibliomancy? Oh please. Y’all don’t even know the meaning of the word. It has nothing to do with the Bible. It’s used in divination & new age, witchcraft even. Kari Lake used the Bible to cast a spell 😅😅😅😅. Or is this how Calvinists describe someone giving a sincere testimony giving God all the praise & honor.
@@keitholiver7856 don't associate this with the doctrines of grace. that's just good theology taught in the Bible. this.... this is not that. but yes, God gets all the glory, anything short of that and you might be in dangerous territory. examine the Scriptures and then examine yourself. taking credit for God's work has always brought an awful lot of trouble, this is found throughout the Scriptures, if only you look.
Back when I was a child and thought as a child I did Bibliomancy. I admit I didn’t know that’s what it was. As a mature person and growing up in Christianity I asked for wisdom and discernment. God has been faithful!
What’s cool, is reading my Bible everyday (or trying too😬) and when a situation comes up scripture comes to my mind instantly. Wisdom is still needed to make decisions, but having the Word in my brain helps me navigate in the right direction.
Excellent use of scripture.
As Spencer Smith says “I can do all things through a verse taken out of context”
Jesus told us to SEARCH the scriptures. Not flip a coin, so to speak.
When I was 9 years old I felt compelled to read my Bible, I laid in on my bed and just opened it up and it was on the verse where Jesus was calling his disciples and said Follow Me. God was dealing with me and I still feel this was God given to me. I have heard other times where people in motels would open the Gideon Bibie and if wouid be on verses that spoke to them
THANK YOU!!! I was a wiccan and I tried telling some Christian sisters that kind of practice was bibliomancy and is divination, but I was told that it is a very Biblical practice and doing bibliomancy has been perverted by new agers. I always thought I was crazy for saying that
@@momochisakura11 interesting perspective. Thanks.
I heard a joke years ago where a person said they were looking for direction from the Bible and opened it to, "And Judas went out and hanged himself." That shook them up, so they tried again and pointed to, "Go and do thou likewise." Nearing panic, the person decided to try again for guidance and turned to, "What thou doest, do quickly."
Oh dear 😄
Here's the Scripture references:
Bibliomancy:
Matt. 27:5 Judas went and hanged himself
Luke 10:37 Go and do likewise
John 13:27 What you are about to do, do quickly
Don't do bibliomancy.
😂😂😂😂
But think: is this a person's true testimony or a story? Shamefully you believe a made up story that paints the Bible as something evil.
Amazing joke…
how long its beard… 🎵
Reminds me of the sign posted at the door of the church nursery in a church I was visiting:
"Behold, I show you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed."
1 Cor 15:51.
lol thats bc the babies wont nap, but they will all fill their diapers. Instead of a quiet session with napping kids, the caregivers get screaming overtired, smelly kids. Rough.
Love that humor.
That’s called a joke. And I love it.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That church has got a healthy sense of humor 🎉
@stizelswik3694 Wow. There is a time for humor, and frankly, dealing with fussy and smelly babies is a great time. Your overly pious and contemptuous attitude isn't needed here, thanks.
Not long after converting from atheism (but still several months before being born again) I asked a friend about being a Christian and smoking dope. I do not recollect what he told me but later that day after work I opened a Bible and the third verse read, "you must be sober".
It's not pattern reading though on that occasion, the word spoke to me in a timely manner.
now tell us that God wouldn't heal blind eyes with SPIT and DIRT
Not long after I was saved, I was watching a tv preacher late night. I had barely any knowledge of scripture yet. He claimed he had not committed a single sin all year, or the year before.
He said all it took for Adam and Eve to fall was one sin.
I got scared to death, as I sinned every day, even as a believer. My desires had changed, I loved church, and learning the Bible, but I still failed daily.
Monday morning at break time, I prayed to the Lord for understanding.
I opened my Bible and began thumbing through the pages. I found JN 5:24, EPH. 2:8-9 and 4:30....and verses in Romans.
I believe the Lord led me to those passages in answer to my fears.
I understand that is not exactly the same thing "Wretched" is discussing, but this video reminded me of that event in my life.
God bless....
Well, not until he made that statement. 😊 You're born a sinner. Works, or lack of sin in your life, cannot save you.
@@mammaduck3863 I agree...saved by God's grace alone.
@@davidvanriper60 I love that there's something we cannot earn. I also love that God thought I was worth dying for even though I really don't deserve it. I think it reminds me that God always thinks more of me than I ever will. Love Him completely!
@@mammaduck3863 AMEN...!!!!
@@mammaduck3863 So why are we commanded Matthew 5:48? It is because of this, Psalm 19:7, Ephesians 2:10 what was before ordained by God? THE COMMANDMENTS WAS BEFORE ORDAINED BY GOD! Grace gives you no pass to trotting down the commandments of God, we establish the commandments of God kingdom which is earth. Any man who does not do God commandments have nothing in Christ, Christ is the word of the father, and the father word is the commandments spoken by him. Now do you understand Isaiah 55:11? Did Christ, the word in the flesh return to God? You have a testimony of the word of God in Christ in a book. The commandments must be in you, for you to be in Christ. The times of the gentiles or nations the commandment of God is not in the body of man, therefor there are wars and rumors of wars, because these times is a time of darkness, and his word is a lamp to the feet of those who do as Christ commanded. See the commandments >1Corinthians 6:8-9-10, see the commandments >Acts 21:25? WORKS OF THE LAW ARE CIRCUMCISION, SACRIFICE. Doing or living as Christ did in the spirit of the father which is the very words that the father commanded is the way truth and the life. Man cannot enter into immortality any other way and immortality is the image of God. Man was made in God image but fell from the image by disobedience and death entered into the kingdom of God which is earth. Gentile nations have inherited lies from your fathers as it is written, Jeremiah 16:19-21. Christ is the water and the blood; the spirit is the commandments, God word, and this is the baptism into Christ. Not by the water of man!
It's like using the Bible as a Ouija board.
I did IT work for my wife's church. I was friendly with the senior pastor and staff. The senior pastor's daughter got a curable cancer. Against my fervent pleas he decided to listen to international christian celebrities and pray for healing instead of treatment. She died. Against my fervent pleas they tried to raise her from the dead. Didn't happen! The word of the Lord came to them again saying it was the doubting Jewish unbeliever (me) who blocked her healing. We were vilified by them. My point is simply they played Biblical Russian roulette with a young lady's life and she lost! The word of the Lord came to them and they performed Bibliomancy to confirm their ill gotten spiritual prognoses.
That makes you as powerful as GOD... YET those people don't even see the irony in their false accusation and blame. False Christians never do.
The was a false church imo
What is really dangerous is people systematically cherry-picking through the word of God to justify whatever sin is in vogue in the culture.
What is worse is when someone says "the Holy Spirit" told me to do something and it goes against the written word of God
I've heard this one:
Judas went and hanged himself.
What thou doest, do quickly.
🥰 if you are saved , pray for guidance, His spirit will guide you!🥰
The Bible does not tell us to pray for guidance.
It tells us to pray for wisdom.
There is a huge difference.
@@Packhorse-bh8qn "When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come."
John 16:13
@@Particularly_John_Gill Exactly. We are not told to pray for guidance.
(You might want to read it again, and maybe pay attention to what is actually said, instead of just seeing the word, "guide" in there and assuming your way into an unbiblical doctrine. You might also want to pay a bit of attention to something known as, "CONTEXT". That passage has nothing whatever to do with learning God's will for our lives, or getting direction for decisions.)
Glad I’m here I’m trying to learn thank you
"Solid food is for the MATURE who by CONSTANT USE have learned to distinguish good from evil" Hebrews 5:14
I do wonder how many people understand God gave us A Brain. And having given us this Brain, God expects us To Us It.
Where’s that in the Bible!!
Precisely. The Bible mentions many times how important knowledge is.
Our brains give us our common sense, don’t tell me that you don’t know to look both ways before crossing the street!! That’s called common sense now you know deep down that God has always been here and always will be here because you have a conscience and you have a memory of paradise lost! You know that when you see all the things that are negative in this life you know in your heart that originally we weren’t supposed to see it happen this way because you know that at one time the world was perfect and you are aware that something happened that injured Creation! Whether or not you want to admit that Adam and Eve sinned a great sin through their disobedience and that this one act is the reason why death diseases crime accidents and other things like this entered into our world!!! You have that knowledge that has been passed down through the generations and you may want to say oh that’s just a fairytale!! You can say that all you want but deep down you know it’s more than just a fairytale because you have that core memory that God placed in our hearts when He wrote His Laws in our hearts!!!
The brain is merely an instrument - something needed to accomplish a greater result. It's the mind that use this instrument to make "music." Remember, God has a mind, but does not have a brain. Our minds are part of the image of God that we bear.
Just consider the source…a politician…a Magadonian, nonetheless. SMH
Sometimes God in His mercy will speak to people who don't know where to look in ways like this, but He does not delight in being treated like a vending machine or magic 8 ball. "God give me the answer I want RIGHT NOW". Thankfully He is gracious with us as we act like petulant children a lot of the time
Now this is a better answer than the guy talking. Short, sweet, truthful and to the point. The Lord does want us to study his Word, but I can't tell you how many times I've opened the Bible directly or my devotional and it specifically addressed a current concern. This doesn't mean I stopped reading at that verse. You keep going.
RC called it “Lucky dipping”.
I cracked the bible open and got “And if a man lies with her, her impurity is communicated to him; he shall be impure seven days, and any bedding on which he lies shall become impure.”
Secret message to stop looking at porn. As if "flee sexual immorality" clear enough
I do believe this can happen when we are desperately seeking Him in prayer for a need for a distraught soul. Yes we can find answers for anything in every circumstance in life in His Word. I believe in divine guidance by the Holy Spirit, the Helper. Sometimes we are shown answers that reflect His direction for our lives in His Word, is it how one approaches it and it may not be the same for me as it is for you
God is not limited in anything, Jesus said ask and it will be given in all things, the Holy Spirit is greater than most realize. Praying wisdom and discernment.
Peace and blessings
I agree with you. I am very wary of doing the sort of thing like picking random scriptures for my life but one time God did use a scripture to reassure me. My son was ill and was put into an induced coma. One night I couldn't sleep and I had the strongest impression to get up and read my bible. I reluctantly did so and opened it at Isaiah 40:29. 'He gives strength to the weary, and increases the power of the weak.' Now I know that this is one verse out of a chapter and I can't explain this, but as I read this, I had such a strong assurance in my soul that God was going to bring my son through. Instantly my fear and worry disappeared and I had such a peace surrounding me. During this time, the doctors were very concerned that he wasn't going to make it but I held onto what I believed was the promise God had given me. As I sat by my son in ICU, I repeated that promise over him constantly. My son did make it through eventually, and I praise God for his word that is alive and real.
@@Kirbygal55 I am so thankful to God for your testimony ! I can’t imagine what you must’ve gone through during that time. This truly touched my heart deeply 😢🫂. Having a faith so strong is an great encouragement for others like me who seek God in all things. Thank you and may God bless you abundantly.
“I know God wants me to cross this busy freeway. I’ve been praying on whether I should just take-off running, or close my eyes, pray for peace and just start walking.”
Hey, how about this? Use the pedestrian bridge!
Yes, it really had become that ridiculous.
God is not a magician. He is not a Djinn. People need to stop mocking God. It has dire consequences.
Amen
"Where can I purchase this power?"
-Simon the Sorcerer
@@JesusistheonetrueGod assuming a lot here. We don't know what motivates the random flippers. But good scripture reference.
@@josephtyldesley6116 Why are you assuming a lot and what are you assuming?
@@JesusistheonetrueGod people are assuming Todd is correct. People are assuming they know how God communicates. And they are assuming they know why others open the word. The example you give, we know the heart because the writer gives us the context. Judas was a follower of Jesus. Were all the disciples like Judas?
This is amazing! God works wonders! This morning, I was thinking "how would I tell a new believer or someone curious about God how to read the Bible?” I actually considered telling them to just open it up and let God speak to you and I tried that today. This video is a direct contradiction to that haha. I opened up to 1 chronicles and read something out of context that I needed more context for to make sense of. It did not really make sense so I went back to my recent daily readings of Romans and Daniel which was very meaningful as it is in context of what I have studying recently and sermons I have watched instead if random verses. I me coming across this video today was a warning from the Holy Spirit not to get new age/divination practices mixed with my faith. Praise be to God. Thank you for this video. Amazing timing!
R.C. Sproul mentioned this in one of his teaching series. He referred to it as “Lucky dipping.”
I ask God questions, and sometimes He puts a verse in my mind, I go to the verse and it exactly answers my question but it isn't random. It's specific verse He puts in my mind clear as day. Gid said if we ask we shall receive. I don't mean things and stuff but wisdom and truth.
It’s So Embarrassing!!
This is American Christianity!!
No difference than Mormonism, Rome, JW, Islam, etc..
this is Pentecostalism.. was raised in it!
Great video!! Thank you Todd!!
I am guilty of doing this when I just knew Jesus Christ and have skipped many steps in my journey. But, praise the Lord for bringing me back to step 1 (repentance) and He has been teaching me His ways since then.
I fleeced the Bible regarding my wife, and it instantly went to "dwell with your wife according to knowledge....". Besides letting your Bible just fall open , a person can also allow a scripture designation come to mind and tben go there - I think that's what I might have done here.
I was naively doing this 15 years ago…I was taught to do this by charismatic “leaders” in YWAM. So deceiving and so unbiblical! Thank God I actually learned how to read Scripture
Same here! YWAM is a cult.
Thank you for this video. You said out loud what I have for a long time.
That is correct where it says all scripture and not just one verse, we need to read the Bible consistently and pray continuously so that when questions arise we are prepared with the answers we need. ( this video reminded me of people when they have a question about something they say just google it )
Full of wisdom ✨️ God bless you
This is something my Sunday School teacher, also the Pastor's wife (high school age), warned against about 45 years ago.
Hello 👋Beautiful Lady 🌹..How are you and the weather condition like ?
I really, really, really want to do something but I want to know if I'm in God's will for my life so I take my request to our Father in Heaven. I have to quiet myself and clear my mind from the noise of coveting, wanting, to have better than my neighbor, and ask myself if this path will draw me closer or push me farther away from a relationship with God the Father. The answer comes relatively quickly and I've learned from hard knocks not to override God's decision
"What if my motives are sinful?" If that is the case, you should have known before seeking to make a decision, and dealt with it first.
I made the mistake of trying this once, and was disappointed. It would take me over a year of Bible reading and sitting under Bible based preaching to get clarity on that.
Just read the Bible from cover to cover, folks. That's how you read a book anyway.
“Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the Lord….. I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.”
Jeremiah 23
It would be embarrassing to open it up to Elijah killing 850 people or Abraham being told to make a burnt offering of his son Isaac
I believe this can happen to new readers of the Bible but not to seasoned Christians.
Never thought about this… Good episode. I’ve randomly opened scriptures before.
@@SantoValentino you were fine to do so. I am totally for diligently studying, but I am also for random flipping. God is incredible enough to bless both. Peace!
I open my Bible randomly all the time and take great inspiration from what I read. I don't need an expert to tell me how to read the Bible.
This is great biblical wisdom and very practically helpful - thanks for sharing.
Seeking wisdom is a thought process ! Interpreting what one defines as a sign is personal 🤷♂️
Thank you Todd excellent video
I know this is serious but the delivery made me laugh. The sarcasm .. the Judas-heath thing made me laugh out loud. 😂 it’s insane that’s this is a thing.
I know of no place in the Bible that commands us to seek God’s will. We’re commanded several times, with promises, to seek God, and we’re told that we will know His will when we are wholly surrendered. Seek God. Seek His face continually. He is the rewarder of them that diligently seek Him. He is good to those who seek Him. You want His will, be surrendered and seek Him. In the words of someone far wiser than us: Seek Him! Seek Him! Seek Him!
Where in the new testament is such a practice taught?
👍😇❤🙏GREAT VIDEO Todd!!!
Holy Hopscotch! The tale is told of a young man, seeking the will of God, closed his eyes, opened his Bible and stuck his finger on a page. "Judas hanged himself," it read. Well, that can't be right the man thought nervously. He tried again. "Go thou and do likewise." Oh, no! I must be doing something wrong. I'll try one last time. "What you must do, do quickly." End of tale.
In general I agree with what is said here. It’s particularly bad in the charismatic world that I’m a part of. However, divination almost always is about seeking answers, and then receiving them from an unknown unreliable source. This isn’t necessarily that. For one, the girl in the clip wasn’t asking a specific question and expecting to get a specific answer. It was more of a feeling of directlessness and wanting God to move her focus in the right direction. That’s not a bad prayer request or expectation and even more so if you believe the answer is found in the Word. Second, when she read the Word she kept the verse in its original context. That’s key. As long as it continues to say what God intended it to say it’s ok. If we don’t hyper-spiritualize this practice and make it commonplace then it really is no different than asking that same prayer and then trusting God’s leading by giving you a dream, vision, a thought that pops in your head, a topic that someone brings up in conversation, a video that pops up in your feed, etc. These are all very subtle ways that God MAY give us direction. There is no way to know for sure other than the inner witness of the Holy Spirit that confirms its relevance to your life and timing.
I randomly opened my Bible and it said "Judas went out and hanged himself." I opened it again and it sad "go now and do likewise." I opened it a third time and it said "go now and do quickly."
While not the preferred way of reading the bible. Do we have such a low view of God's ability to speak to us in the bible, regardless of how we open it?
This is human reasoning talking. God wouldn't tell anybody to treat the Bible like a Ouija board. The Bereans weren't called noble by Paul because they treated the scriptures like a divination tool.
My biblomancy has treated me very well when I needed it. Gods word is always enough, trust in Him- prophetic or not✝️❤️
“And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which one of these two you have chosen to take the place in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place.” And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.”
Acts 1:24-26 ESV
Lots were cast to pick a apostle to replace Judas. Be humble my brother in Christ, sometime the Holy Spirit can guide us to his word in various ways when we need it.
Your quote is at least 40 years old. First bible open, "And Judas went out an hanged himself." Second bible open, "Go thou and do likewise." My pastor warned me many years ago this approach was problematic. However, I think there may be times when God may use this approach but each individual must decide VERY carefully.
YES! Thank You!!!!! I used to do this when I was practicing witchcraft as another divination tool!!!! Then after Christ saved me, I saw this being done by Christians (among other things) and was like Whoa! Thank you for bringing this up and educating people about this.
im reading the bible normally but its so amazing that even tho i read like that, every chapter i read on that day is what i exactly needed for that day
If God chooses to speak to an individual in this manner and it is inline with who He is, His character and within the context of the entire counsel of God's Word, then who are we to say he won't do this.. I have been in distress and happen to be reading in the Bible and a particular verse leaped off the pages at me and was totally relatable to what I was going through.
We always try to define God into terms WE can understand.. In essence, we end up putting God in a box defined by our own human theology. Last I checked, God didn't need us to tell Him what to do and not do.. He is GOD, let Him BE God.
It goes as far back as John Wesley who advocated it, perhaps further back than that.
J I Packer tells the story of someone who practised it.
The person pointed to a text, it read,
"he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself", Matthew 27:5.
He responded, "that can't be right. Let me try again".
It read, "Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly", John 13:27.
Just this month, I learned 2 of my “life verses”I have been looking at completely wrong. I was convicted about just picking verses that “fit”.
“Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”
This is an example of why discipleships is important.
I does bibliomancy when I was 10😂 too immature to understood anything
GOD speaks through His WORD, I would Not just point my finger but it does Not mean He did Not speak to her Who am I to say He did Not, His thoughts and His ways are higher than the earth and Higher than our thoughts and ways!
I did this when I was 5.
The modern-misguided-trend provoking version of the children's game, Pin the Tail on the Donkey.
Wise video.
“Marry Tiffany or Heather”? ????
Heather, oh the wrong choice but correct decision ????
How about neither of these woman?
Sometimes the first verse you see may indeed minister to you in your situation. But, this fellow (I never remember his name) is right. That's certainly not a good practice.
I had a Sunday school teacher that talked about this very thing. He would say he knew a guy who joked that he would try to read three verses a day this way. So you go and you turn to the chapter when when Judas realizes what he did and it says and Judas went out and hung himself oh man that's terrible I need to find something else to you you look for more hopeful passage a few pages back goes out and do likewise no this can't be right lord... then you close your book you reopen it you happen to fall at the Last Supper what you do do quickly
Bibliomancy has been around forever, and I didn't know until now that it actually had a name! I"ve observed most believers going through a phase of it at one time or another during their lives, and it does appear to be the refuge of the unstudied, that is, the one who has not familiarized themselves with Scripture. Once a person becomes grounded in the Word, they no longer see any need for such a "shortcut".
Sometimes God does communicate like that Todd because it's the living Bible. If you don't have the Holy Spirit that's another story but if you have the Holy Spirit he will speak in many ways and that is one of them. You certainly shouldn't just grab your Bible and open it up You should pray first seek his face draw close to God and he will draw close to you. Then ask him to show you what you asked and have discernment over what you read. I have been amazed over the years how precise God has answered very specific prayers. Example: In prayer one day God spoke to my heart and told me to fast, I have never fasted before so I was kind of curious how long I was supposed to do this so I asked him to tell me through his word how long I should fast. Then I opened my bible and my eyes immediately went to a place where it says they fasted for one week. So I fasted for one week. God Bless you and your ministry,
😊I like to see Todd in his beard
Bibliomancy the milk-toast Christian's version of the Magic 8 ball.
This actually dates back all the way before the birth of Christ. The ancient Romans used to do this with the works of Virgil. They had an official term for it- can't remember at the moment but I think the name was taken from one of Virgil's works.
This is news to me.
People creating creepy things like this? How insidious... 😬
WHOAAA! God does NOT "want you to have the desires of your heart!" I'm honestly surprised that Todd has that understanding of that bible verse. The verse says God will GIVE YOU THE DESIRES, in other words, if you're in tune with the Lord, your desires will be the right desires.
There was an old movie about a little orphan girl who did this. I can't remember the name but the actress was the little sister in The Philadelphia Story. Anyway, thank you for this warning.
That is silly and not discernment to just pick a random verse. That is disturbing. They put a concordance in the Bible for a reason.
God didn't put the concordance there. Fallen men did.
@@josephtyldesley6116 The concordance can help find passages related to a topic of interest. But once there, make sure to read the passages in context to get the correct meaning.
@@dzcav3 being that I have several translations and various study editions including the Geneva, I know quite well why these guides are there. And why they aren't necessarily helpful for living like Christ.
You're taking a chance when you do that. There are times when it can be good, and times when it's just you. I've done that and God has spoke to me.. but not purposely.
I've heard that black cars are the most difficult to keep clean & white ones are easiest. I don't know about all that but I do know that a gold car is the easiest to drive dirty.
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If God can make a donkey speak God can do anything, in my teens I was suicidal and for the first time ever I heard God say in my spirit "I love you", I said to Him "how much?" He said "Go get your bible" so I did and RANDOMLY opened it and the first verse I read was Jeremiah 31:3. That is how much! I didn't kill myself. Try and tell Jesus He was wrong for doing that! He does do it! Is it the MAIN way we communicate with Him? No! But doesn't mean it ISN'T a way! Blessings
So God wanted me to marry a woman that would cheat on me over and over.
So God can't speak to His children by allowing them to turn to the right page? Ridiculous. Of course He can... and does. Here is a similar way he spoke to me and how my love for the Lord was greatly increased when I was 15: Hunting in the woods one day when it was windy and raining. I was under evergreen trees to avoid the rain. I was opening my Bible to read (was homeschooled, had my books with me) when I paused and prayed, "God will you make the wind and rain go away so I can hunt squirrel?" Immediately He spoke to me (not heard with my ears) and said, "Go to II Kings 3:17." I listened to Him and read His word: "For thus says the Lord, ‘You shall not see wind nor shall you see rain..." I was shocked. I grabbed my stuff and, in faith, walked out of the trees and the rain STOPPED and the wind DIED. It turned to a California day, one I will never forget. After this I sought Him more and more... I had a better understanding of how much He loved me - to change the weather for me (let alone the laying down of His life to save me).
That's how we were taught to do it. Lol.
God can use this to speak to someone but it's not something you can plan and do anytime.
This reminds me of that scene in the Steve Martin movie “The Jerk.” If you know, you understand.
Interesting that nobody reads a novel that way.
It's an old trend I experienced even back in the 70's. Personally I thought the trend had actually mostly disappeared. Evidently not.
I tried this. My finger landed on some verse about a woman and stallions... Disturbing.
I doubt she is using it like a crazy 8 ball. There has been a couple times when I have just opened it up and let my eyes randomly focus on a scripture. And it was just what I needed.