Lets talk about Warden [Daybreak 2]

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  • Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
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  • @aliceinbookland1
    @aliceinbookland1 3 місяці тому +61

    I really don’t think it’s occurred to Brenda that people don’t NEED new lore updates or new skins for Warden, Yvonne, and Elizabeth. Most people just love their storyline for what it is, myself included. And if they were so concerned with the lore, I promise you someone in the community would write it for them, but the developers keep such a high wall between themselves and the players. They say they are keeping the perks and just giving them a revamp, which comes off as incredibly lazy to me. It feels like they want new characters, but don’t want to think up new perks. Which AGAIN, you wouldn’t have to worry about that so much, if you let the community have some say. Bring back character submissions if creating new perks is so stressful and you want new characters. There is absolutely no reason that characters who have been here since DB1 and are very well loved should have to be erased so you can add different characters, just ADD THE NEW CHARACTERS. now they say they are keeping Yvonne and Elizabeth but redoing their entire lore, which is what makes them so likable, and the redoing Warden entirely. It all just reeks of laziness to me.
    TLDR; leave these three alone and just make new characters.

    • @onlycows726
      @onlycows726 3 місяці тому +5

      "we don't care for these characters who's creator has been gone for two years but we don't want to hire writers because these characters are our own" which one is it Brenda you're contradicting yourself.....

    • @aliceinbookland1
      @aliceinbookland1 2 місяці тому +2

      @@onlycows726 she is just so quirky!! so silly!!!!

    • @girlleavemealone--
      @girlleavemealone-- 2 місяці тому +4

      honestly i really liked yvonne elizabeth and warden's lore. i thought the dynamic between elizabeth and warden was interesting, all it needed was a bit of expansion on it and i'd like to see more. sucks tbh

  • @urluvmilk
    @urluvmilk 3 місяці тому +76

    No because yall love removing things because YOU don’t like it, be so fr lore is lore ain’t Parker lead someone on and then they killed them self? But yall still love him tho.

    • @urluvmilk
      @urluvmilk 3 місяці тому

      Pick and choose asses

    • @blur3d0ut
      @blur3d0ut 3 місяці тому +11

      Fr tho. Most of the hate on warden is lore wise but then they side eye any other character with a fucked up moment due to being big SIMPS

    • @urluvmilk
      @urluvmilk 3 місяці тому +11

      @@blur3d0ut whats that? He commit dozens of war crimes? But he’s buff and has nice voice? I want him 😍😍😍😍 “I can change him I swear!” 😒

    • @GH0ULSROCK
      @GH0ULSROCK 3 місяці тому +5

      Yeah, I know that warden is the most cruel killer, but why remove him? He is so fun to play, he is like the male version of ynorica

    • @GH0ULSROCK
      @GH0ULSROCK 3 місяці тому +3

      WITH VOICELINES.VOICELINES

  • @erwnseo
    @erwnseo 3 місяці тому +39

    the switch up is fire asf ngl

    • @um8454
      @um8454 3 місяці тому +3

      I WAS SHOOK (in a good way)

  • @galaxy_space3421
    @galaxy_space3421 3 місяці тому +50

    in the official db disc server today i saw so many people saying that warden being removed is bad and telling the devs to work on actual updates and rico just clowned on us likeeee💀💀

    • @galaxy_space3421
      @galaxy_space3421 3 місяці тому +9

      not fun, play ur game brenda

    • @aliceinbookland1
      @aliceinbookland1 3 місяці тому +17

      They always wanna make it a joke to avoid responsibility 😌

    • @galaxy_space3421
      @galaxy_space3421 3 місяці тому +14

      @@aliceinbookland1 RIGHT but no one in the server calls them out on that 😭

    • @imjustbeinghonestgetoverit
      @imjustbeinghonestgetoverit 3 місяці тому +14

      call them out and you'll get muted for a week. 💀

    • @club-classics
      @club-classics 3 місяці тому

      @@aliceinbookland1it’s a roblox game

  • @i_exist6727
    @i_exist6727 3 місяці тому +27

    Zinnie is going to be the next killer in Daybreak and his backstory is that the devs were making terrible changes so he went into the mist to fix it up himself 0-0

  • @CriminalCase-r5s
    @CriminalCase-r5s 3 місяці тому +16

    Yoo w video (i agree it’s not fair for warden to be replaced while others isn’t)

  • @jqcks0n_master75
    @jqcks0n_master75 3 місяці тому +14

    Its so stupid when they have to replace Warden but they get to keep Eliz & Yvonne. Plus they gonna change their Lore too alongside the killer replacement for Warden, bad Community demanding Brenda and Devs to have Favourites. RIP Warden o7

  • @cham-cham-io5lh
    @cham-cham-io5lh 3 місяці тому +7

    as a warden main-
    I ABSOLUTELY HATE HIM for his lore. but that does not mean he should be removed.
    tbh, all of this is just.. disappointing
    great video :]]

  • @bluexiang8048
    @bluexiang8048 3 місяці тому +29

    Honestly? I'm on the side that warden being removed isn't such a bad idea as long as the reasons are legit. What would be a legit reason? Acknowledging that Warden as a character is very one-note and not interesting to write about. The entire story of Elizabeth, Yvonne, and Warden is extremely boring compared to the rest of the characters and especially compared to the rest of the killers.
    An example of a killer that's not exactly likeable yet still complex enough to have interesting storylines is Taliyah. Everything she's done is purely out of her own enjoyment, but she still has some complexities to her in the form of "What could have happened if this never occurred?" her own interactions with survivors proves she understands what she's done is not good and she has barely, if any at all, remorse for it. But then you're reminded that while Taliyah does all of this Taliyah is also in a place of life where she's not fully grown. She understands there's consequences, but with how she acts you can tell that she's still childish enough to not really think on it and it gets you thinking that if Taliyah was put in a different situation as a whole would this have happened.
    Another example is Ye-jun, a lot of people are going to say he's still likeable but that is mostly for the fact that he has looks. Ultimately, when you think about it, very little people actually like his personality as a whole. His story is typical of your Yandere scenario except for the jarring fact that he had been schoolmates with Dae and had been friends with him.
    Compare that to Warden he unfortunately just has absolutely no depth to his character. The story between Yvonne and Elizabeth and Warden can literally be pieced together through voicelines and their backstories alone. There is a jarringly clear "bad guy" in the story and with how he has been written there's very little depth to him. He is simply an "evil for the sake of being evil" character done in the worst way. Even if someone were to try and give him some form of depth in an attempt to keep him, it'd present multiple holes in the present day story.
    If the devs are replacing Warden for these reasons then it's perfectly fine, but replacing Warden because he's not a community favorite is not very fair yeah.

    • @quvuergatulyai980
      @quvuergatulyai980 3 місяці тому +2

      Facts

    • @ItsBugbits
      @ItsBugbits 3 місяці тому +8

      The only reason why ppl think his backstory is not complex or not interesting is that the devs didn't care to flesh out his lore. Same as Janitor for that matter

    • @bluexiang8048
      @bluexiang8048 3 місяці тому +5

      @@ItsBugbits Tbf Warden was never the devs character, this was the lore given to him by his creator so I wanna pay devils advocate there. This was the lore he was given as a whole.

    • @projectmoonsleeperagent
      @projectmoonsleeperagent 3 місяці тому +2

      Thing is, they’re replacing the entire story either way. No reason to only keep two characters and remove one unless it was because they weren’t a “fan-favorite”

    • @revenanted
      @revenanted 3 місяці тому

      @@ItsBugbits I think it's different in Janitor's case. IIRC a dev said that Janitor's lore is flat because he is meant to be a flat character. He's essentially suppose to represent older middle aged people that live dull, repetitive lives, and have nothing to look forward to in the near future.

  • @midnight-plays9465
    @midnight-plays9465 3 місяці тому +10

    Personally, it’s pretty stupid to remove Warden and then revamp and redesign Yvonne and Elizabeth. This completely ruins the entire point of their lore in general that they were given. I don’t see why they don’t just remove all of them at this point since without Warden, there’s not a complete picture behind it.
    As much as I didn’t care for The Warden in the first place, I don’t think he should be removed just because he’s heavily disliked by the community lore-wise. If there was a different reason that ACTUALLY more valid, I would be completely on board, but I just feel 50/50 about this.

  • @Zerryboo
    @Zerryboo 3 місяці тому +7

    The last section going to get people talking but I heavily agree. You all need to wake up. Daybreak players are so soft. There’s harsher media that portrays abuse way worse like you mentioned. But no, wardens the only thing worth mentioning due to you all simply not finding any appeal in his looks. Mind you, these are virtual Legos.

  • @JannaFlopsToo
    @JannaFlopsToo 3 місяці тому +5

    Idk WHY the devs are doing this.... Focus on The Stareater and Dhanya!

  • @Imaflop
    @Imaflop 3 місяці тому +19

    THE SWITCH UP😭😭😭😭

  • @SklopFlop
    @SklopFlop 3 місяці тому +24

    Warden/Watcher x Dumpster Fire is the best ship frfr (But don’t remove him for being evil he’s legit a KILLER like obvi he’s not a good person that’s a point??)

    • @Amethyst_Real
      @Amethyst_Real 3 місяці тому +1

      facts

    • @naturescorruptedinfactorie8062
      @naturescorruptedinfactorie8062 3 місяці тому +1

      I agree with you so much! The creators should be less scared to make the killers true villains and leave little room for sympathy. It’s overall a more interesting dynamic to have a variety of morality between the killers. 👍

  • @ziyerstrong1870
    @ziyerstrong1870 3 місяці тому +6

    You really chewed with this because instead of deleting the characters that were PERFECTLY FINE to begin with they need to add the new ones that everybody wants and stop delaying them and failing to meet the standards THEY Set while not really allowing the community that actually cares about this game to help, it's so stupid, Love you for this one though!

  • @beiiance
    @beiiance 3 місяці тому +10

    im crying zinnie admitting he wants more bloodshed is so😭

  • @Dumsleepyhead
    @Dumsleepyhead 3 місяці тому +3

    Low key his backstory matches the killer vibe unlike slash getting mad and deciding to kill cuz his kids died like??

  • @wenscorp
    @wenscorp 3 місяці тому +9

    people literally will not like Warden because he's an evil person but not say sht about stalker💀
    both of their creator's left the community and they are both horrible morally wrong characters
    just because a character is a horrible person doesn't mean they should get replaced period. they are so biased toward the characters they like and give zero love toward characters to the ones they don't like
    really hope they reconsider and don't remove ward because he's genuinely such a unique character who's just horrible with zero reason to like him and we don't have many characters like him at all

    • @onlycows726
      @onlycows726 3 місяці тому +3

      People like Stalker because majority find her design, gameplay and lore fun and interesting which is.. the polar opposite of warden, personally idc about warden as a character as in his lore but that was a very piss poor comparison. The root problem about warden is how boring he is, it's the same deal with Janitor, the only difference being that janitor isn't a bad person lore wise. Both Warden and janitor are one dimensional characters who are barely fleshed out. I'm not denying that people don't dislike warden because of his lore but a very good portion of the community are literally just indifferent to warden being removed, they're not celebrating but they're not weeping over it either. Brenda is the one that made the decision, not the community. The community voted for the characters to be kept, it's Brenda that chose to exclude Warden.

  • @EgorPlayz
    @EgorPlayz 3 місяці тому +3

    I really like him and it’s sad they’re removing him just because people doesn’t like him enough.

  • @blue_greenn
    @blue_greenn 3 місяці тому +3

    I don't know why the devs want to remove Warden just because THEY want to, not the people who spent money and time into the game. I know there was a vote but who even asked the devs to remove Warden, Elizabeth, and Yvonne in the first place? I think they should only remove characters if the community asks for that, not because they feel as if their own characters are boring enough to remove. I think it's also the devs fault that Warden is forgotten among the other killers because they don't promote him in the discord, so of course people are bound to forget about him. I don't really care if Warden gets removed because I'm a survivor main but I see where you're coming from. Imo if Warden just gets more skins, a new look, and more attention and love from the devs, I think he would be a fan favorite or just not be as forgotten about in the community. I think if that did happen his backstory wouldn't have been the problem it would just be the aesthetic because thats what the community cares about. No one has any problem playing as and simping over an aesthetic Russian terrorist and instead hate on the bland wife beater. Overall, I think instead of replacing Warden, why not just add another killer?

  • @naturescorruptedinfactorie8062
    @naturescorruptedinfactorie8062 3 місяці тому +4

    Warden = Older Disney *Villains*
    Most Other Killers = Newer Disney “Villains”

    • @takappa2272
      @takappa2272 Місяць тому +1

      warden - zero humanity hates women
      slasher - from vigilante anti hero to murderer
      stalker - a kid who loves murder
      voidskulk - alien parasite
      host - specimen control
      showstopper - lesbian wants fame
      empress - lesbian wants power
      werewolf - gay person cant control himself from hunger
      i ran out of ideas for the rest lol

  • @monokun_6072
    @monokun_6072 3 місяці тому +2

    16:10 they are pixels btw, not blocks, but the point is still very valid

  • @appa-pie
    @appa-pie 3 місяці тому +5

    It's so foul how the devs just don't realize that warden has his fans, and that there are people who spend days or weeks grinding for him and leveling him. Just imagine how sad you must feel if your favourite character got replaced, just because they're less popular in the community. Or that you have been playing him since the beginning of time, but just because of people who never actually took the time test him out and only read his lore, he gets replaced by something essentially the same.

  • @Someone12601
    @Someone12601 3 місяці тому +4

    Zinnie is going to be in his villain era soon enough

  • @Steven-iw5cj
    @Steven-iw5cj 3 місяці тому +6

    Idk... I mean they can clearly rework characters entire backstorys and make them have a new theme if their creator has been gone but not problematic... (Clearly with Yvonne and Elizabeth) So why exclude Warden? At least make him a skin or have a different kit and changed lore-
    Like omg why exclude Warden

  • @quvuergatulyai980
    @quvuergatulyai980 3 місяці тому +7

    What's the instrumental at the end of the rant? I know it's by nicki but idk the song

  • @Skullcap68
    @Skullcap68 3 місяці тому +1

    no cuzz i was SOO pressed over the announcement that warden would be replaced, and that elizabeth + yvonne were staying. like bro

  • @jjais964
    @jjais964 3 місяці тому +2

    Honestly I wanted the entire chapter to be remodeled

  • @johnstonashley23
    @johnstonashley23 3 місяці тому +1

    hey sorry im late but yeah once im done watching this video zinne im miles or oliverimguy1 sorry if late but yeah i do see bias,but there aome people who need to know that theres gonna be a terrible person like a true villian or something and there shouldn't be always like some petty villian or som sometimes theres gonna be terrible as killers like kinda point of daybreak abit where some killers are ethier misunderstood or just terrible people,but prob besides the point but i do thank you for calling this and i hope you can go far and enjoy you're life peace! :).

  • @PetrifiedPetra
    @PetrifiedPetra 3 місяці тому +6

    LEAVE WARDEN ALONE NOOOOOOO i hope they don’t completely replace characters 😕 Btw i thought Yvonne was pronounced E vonne ? because i know two women with that name and that’s how they say it

    • @razberry_brooks
      @razberry_brooks 3 місяці тому

      i kind of pronounce Yvonne's name as yie-von/ye-von/yi-von
      unrelated to ur comment (yvonne's name pronunciation)

  • @cristalshine5708
    @cristalshine5708 3 місяці тому +1

    Good news, pts is comeing out this weekend

  • @ES_Rblx
    @ES_Rblx 3 місяці тому +2

    To be fair
    PTS updated

  • @exstaticace9452
    @exstaticace9452 2 місяці тому

    i been playing warden for a long while and i really would feel bad losing him but i accept the fact that he will be revamped, change or whatever and everytime i play him i get VCed hated and told to leave im just hoping he keeps the Prison Lockdown Warden Style Similar to Leland Coyle of the outlast trials im not good with lore at all so my apologies for not knowing much on him but i enjoy a lil defense to my main Killer

  • @kyomj
    @kyomj 3 місяці тому +3

    rip blue

  • @claudioefrain
    @claudioefrain 3 місяці тому +2

    So that was the same reason that Seth, Seanna , Valerie and Gabbie where removed?

    • @TCBalaur
      @TCBalaur 3 місяці тому +3

      Nah, Seth got removed because his creator requested it after receiving harassment.
      Seanna, Valerie, and Gabbie's creator's were bad people so their characters got removed
      Warden's character is getting removed because people don't like him (which isn't fair cuz he still has fans)

    • @claudioefrain
      @claudioefrain 3 місяці тому +1

      @@TCBalaur thx for explain me this

  • @goobralrt
    @goobralrt 2 місяці тому +1

    7:49 ABOUT F-ING TIME SOMEONE CALLED THEM OUT 💀

  • @royjohnpongos1203
    @royjohnpongos1203 3 місяці тому +3

    yes ghost is safe again❤

  • @mood....101
    @mood....101 3 місяці тому

    Warden's looks and abilities need to be changed because his gameplay is uninteresting for most DB players. His lore is great, but his appearance doesn't fit Daybreak's new style. Elizabeth and Yvonne's lore could be tweaked to make them more exciting. Yvonne's ability relies too heavily on the killer's playstyle, making her less enjoyable to play. For example, Makoto is a more appealing option, compared to Yvonne, with an active ability that can be used frequently. Not to mention, Makoto is a free character making them more accessible and appealing for players. Warden's ability is too 'situational' and requires forced genlocking, making his gameplay boring(correct me if I'm wrong I've played only played Warden once). If his detection cooldown was shorter, he would be a more well grounded option for some players, but as it stands, he's still not as popular. Elizabeth's ability doesn't require a lot of skill at all to use effectively and reasonable, making her an easy character to play, especially for newer players.

  • @Sir_Sirin
    @Sir_Sirin 3 місяці тому

    I’ll be honest, i disagree with this, they held a poll to ask for community opinions. Meaning they asked the COMMUNITY to give their input. A majority voted for a desire to replace warden but keep yvonne and elizabeth. For people saying some disagreed, more agreed with this decision than disagreed (i know because i’ve been watching feedback the past few days.)
    If you all didn’t want anyone to go, fine, but a majority of the community had an overwhelming vote to remove warden. It was something they didn’t just do on their own accord, they asked for others to give input, and took the final verdict.

    • @Crypticzen1
      @Crypticzen1  3 місяці тому +1

      @@Sir_Sirin the vote was to remove all 3 or none 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @Sir_Sirin
      @Sir_Sirin 3 місяці тому

      @@Crypticzen1 yes, and then a lot of people replied back and said that they didn’t want to see yvonne and eliza leave, i do normally agree with your takes however i feel the warden change was just for the better.

    • @onlycows726
      @onlycows726 3 місяці тому

      @@Sir_Sirin reply how? the server is read only, also people not wanting to see Yvonne and Elizabeth leave doesn't mean they care about Warden. A lot of people are indifferent to him, just because people didn't talk about him specifically doesn't mean they care whether he goes or stays

    • @Sir_Sirin
      @Sir_Sirin 3 місяці тому

      @@onlycows726 feedback and suggestions, also people in feedback and suggestions did quite literally say they were glad he was gone, so i’m unsure what you’re saying here

  • @zoe_2006
    @zoe_2006 3 місяці тому +1

    Preach it

  • @Grandma588
    @Grandma588 3 місяці тому +2

    They should delete all of the characters :3

  • @Ne0politon
    @Ne0politon 3 місяці тому +1

    Not too much by principal that's my main 10:39

  • @SC4RL3TT589
    @SC4RL3TT589 3 місяці тому +2

    Eww Why’d you try to do a Joker impression in the last half of the video 💀

  • @jjais964
    @jjais964 3 місяці тому +1

    I hate him but like the fact you can hate him

  • @onlycows726
    @onlycows726 3 місяці тому

    were the ableist slurs "sped" and "ret*rd" really necessary over a roblox game :/

    • @Crypticzen1
      @Crypticzen1  3 місяці тому

      @@onlycows726 I literally have ADHD 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @girlleavemealone--
      @girlleavemealone-- 2 місяці тому

      @@Crypticzen1 what about the f slur?

    • @Crypticzen1
      @Crypticzen1  2 місяці тому

      @@girlleavemealone-- I am pansexual 😭

    • @girlleavemealone--
      @girlleavemealone-- 2 місяці тому

      @@Crypticzen1 omg im so sorry i figured but like i was a little setback i didn't mean it in a nitpicky way i was geniuely curious apologies lol

    • @Crypticzen1
      @Crypticzen1  2 місяці тому

      @@girlleavemealone-- you’re good

  • @Keven4027
    @Keven4027 Місяць тому

    Daybreak is getting so bad