I''m a fan of Edge in JD, though after leaving they didn't lose their edge in a figurative sense, but I liked his suits, I liked being called sheep, I liked the throne going down the ramp entrance, I liked how JD had a bit of Brood-y vibes with Edge.
@@tzvikrasner6073 I’d be happy if they kept the new bloodline story going for a couple of years, the new members deserve some screen time and the contracts they got with WWE after a great run in various other companies over the years. Hopefully Roman won’t be reintroduced too soon but comes back when inevitably the Uso’s end up taking on Solo’s group and have nobody else to help them.
@@elchomper.1063 How does one guy ruin an entire product? You prefer WWE which has next to no wrestling & just talking while having to pay to watch them on ppv. While literally every other show has more wrestling & actual better storytelling
Honestly I loved Big time becks. Also Edge is one of those figures that probably won't ever get jeered again just because we know how amazing it is that he's doing this at all. Which is a shame really because heel Edge Circe 2006/07 was FIRE!
It wasn't for WWE, but Sting's heel turn in 1999 was so, so bad, and so, so strange. No one bought into him as a bad guy, and given we're talking dying-days WCW, the writing certainly wasn't there either.
Tbh. Heel Judgement Day Edge would've worked, it just never get off the ground. The Judgement Day only got off the ground, cause it was able to spread it's legs, and really progress. Edge was cut after a small stint in it. So we don't know how the long term would've gone.
I think the biggest missed opportunity in AEW was the Dark Order. Making them all corporate and stuff took a lot away from Brodies mystique. He became a boss instead of a mysterious dark presence.
It may have been a failure in the business sense, but Austin as a heel was so damn entertaining with how protective and paranoid he was over anyone but him being near Vince, to having his wife bake cookies for his boss, to all the hugging and all the bickering with Angle. Also Rikishi was kind of the inverse of the Vince monster heel formula. Usually its after being a dominant monster heel that someone gets turned into a smiling, dancing babyface, but Rikishi was already over as a dancing babyface when they turned him heel and tried to make him a monster heel, except he couldn't beat Austin and he couldn't beat The Rock and he couldn't beat Undertaker, so then he got injured and came back as a smiling, dancing babyface again, but it was never quite the same. Ambrose turning heel after the feel-good moment of him and Rollins winning the Tag Titles the night Roman announced his leukemia had returned was great in itself, but the aftermath ruined it, though him wearing a gas mask and getting vaccinated could've worked better if it happened in 2020 lol
I loved AEW to start, i watched a match and saw slow reactions and as a fan could telegraph a move being set up, not just set up like a pile driver where you know the process or a stunner after a gut kick or suplex from the top rope that needs setting up. They were simple actions like stopping like it was a re start. Then i noticed how they import stars and don't build them up. Other than MJF being catapulted to stardom the rest had big followings in the indies. Tony needs to watch the demise of TNA and the NWA closely, he is showing us why fans don['tg call the shots
5:43 I'll be honest: I just don't buy a babyface Cody. Dashing/Undashing was always the best Cody, and seeing how Cody won't ever turn heel means that will probably always be my favorite variation of Cody
Does the whole damn arena still go "WHOA-OH!" during his entrance music? (I don't watch a lot, I genuinely don't know) Probably a decent barometer of if he'll ever turn again.
The worse things about the Regal turn? A) It was SO easy to think of other reasons why he'd attack Mox and betray the BCC, like "they've taken me for granted," or "Mr. Friedman offered an amount of money only a fool like Moxley wouldn't say yes too(which, by the way, would've also strengthened MJF as a heel who more-or-less bought the title)," rather than "teaching a lesson" to guys who had by and large been in the biz for over a decade; and B) after allegedly teaching the lads not to trust anyone, the schmucks still seemingly TRUST EACH OTHER! Why would these guys-all of whom have been particularly hurt by Tony Khan's moronic "faces and heels personas don't matter" booking edict-still look out for each other when the faction's founder and grand pooh bah himself said it's not a big deal if you stab someone in the back? Dumb!
no.10, rumor has it vince pushed for bryan to be screwed by hbk. but shawn was adamant, "if this doesnt lead to a match, it is pointless." so a s compromise and to get bryan his heat back. he had bryan attack him and put him in the yes lock.
Okay. I'm completely baffled. How was the scalded dog heel run by Chris Jericho not on this list? The crowd had gotten their dearest wish to see a megaheel creatively ground into the dirt. And somehow instead of humbling him, it made him worse? That run was probably the worst story-wise in Jericho's entire career
Heel Stone Cold worked until Triple H got injured, the Two Man Power Trip were legitimately intimidating. The 2nd heel turn during Invasion is what sucked
That Dean Ambrose turn could have been perfect. If they LOST the tag team match that night. Also they would have needed better writing after the fact...
I was summerslam 2021 and the year long heel run was done as well as it could be. With that stated I would have preferred it explained better than it was
And never got booed; they agreed with him about Hogan. Hilariously, Hogan and Bischoff (as well as Dixie and Jarrett, who were also on screen at the time) thought they would be sympathetic babyfaces against Sting in 2010 as well, in their and Russo's TNA. It didn't work (again 🤣🤣), and was retconned into a heel turn for Hulk, Bischoff and Jarrett...
I was originally going to question why is this only wwe. But despite the title 4 of the 10 were not wwe. ?? 3 aew and 1 wcw (which is NOT wwe at the time, or ever really, wwe bought the names and tape history not the company)
I know this video is about WWF/WWE but the weirdest heel turn I've ever seen was in WCW. The turn was by Hacksaw Jim Duggan when he joined Team Canada . I thought I was going mad or seeing things .
Look how well joining AEW worked out Adam Copeland, he now has nice new fractured tibia and is out for a longtime. He should have stuck with WWE the only reason he went to AEW is to work with Christian cage.
I mean tbf HBK didn't really train Bryan that much. Bryan was mostly taught by someone else so number 11 shouldn't hurt that much. But damn I really wish we saw Bryan vs HBK instead of that dreaded Saudi match 🙄
Yeah, Danielson himself certainly reveres William Regal as his teacher a lot more, but at least in storyline, WWE made a lot of how Bryan's first wrestling school was HBK's academy.
@@emeraldaly7646 yeah and sure there is some truth about Danielson being part of HBK's school but Danielson was taught by someone else for the most part
Badly booked heel turns seem to run in the Anoi family At least Rikishi’s side As his son Jimmy would go on to have the most poorly booked and lazily written heel turn I have seen in my 12 years as a wrestling fan
Wow...I make a comment about Becky and you guys delete it. So sensitive. When all I said was her first heel turn was bad because they tried to make her a female Austin. There will never be a female Austin
@DKCG0113 urm yes it is... I believe it was in an interview with CVV. In response to a question regarding the "Let's go Cody, Cody sucks" chants that happened in AEW
@@Dr_1212 even if that was remotely close to being true, and he were to be fired, he wouldn't apply for unemployment. He's a millionaire, he doesn't need unemployment checks, you silly goose.
@@DKCG0113 I didn't mean he.s broke I meant he should go back to sitting on his not working unemployment couch at 1 time he was best in the world now he s best in the world at being a bit!@ He can't cut a promo now without getting injured
I''m a fan of Edge in JD, though after leaving they didn't lose their edge in a figurative sense, but I liked his suits, I liked being called sheep, I liked the throne going down the ramp entrance, I liked how JD had a bit of Brood-y vibes with Edge.
It would be a heck of a long term story if it turns out Solo has taken over the Bloodline "For da Rock" 😂
Oh, Lord. The explosion from that. Shit.
@@tzvikrasner6073 I’d be happy if they kept the new bloodline story going for a couple of years, the new members deserve some screen time and the contracts they got with WWE after a great run in various other companies over the years. Hopefully Roman won’t be reintroduced too soon but comes back when inevitably the Uso’s end up taking on Solo’s group and have nobody else to help them.
I want Adam Cole and Adam Copeland to get together and form a team called Adams Colepland
I'd hire you if I could
I’d fire you if I could
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You're FIRED
AEW fans: Cody should turn heel!
Cody: [leaves AEW for WWE]
The most meta heel turn ever 😂
It's the same boring shit to boot. His ego really ruined his AEW potential. Dusty was champ as booker TF it's super common
agreed 😂😂😂😂
@@elchomper.1063 How does one guy ruin an entire product? You prefer WWE which has next to no wrestling & just talking while having to pay to watch them on ppv. While literally every other show has more wrestling & actual better storytelling
Honestly I loved Big time becks. Also Edge is one of those figures that probably won't ever get jeered again just because we know how amazing it is that he's doing this at all. Which is a shame really because heel Edge Circe 2006/07 was FIRE!
What about Mick Foley turning on ECW and working with Edge in 2006?
It wasn't for WWE, but Sting's heel turn in 1999 was so, so bad, and so, so strange. No one bought into him as a bad guy, and given we're talking dying-days WCW, the writing certainly wasn't there either.
FACTS same for goldberg being a heel and Russo having him do that dumb “not following the script” gimmick.
Absolutely loved Austin's heel run
The Big Show. All 10 times.
Tbh. Heel Judgement Day Edge would've worked, it just never get off the ground. The Judgement Day only got off the ground, cause it was able to spread it's legs, and really progress. Edge was cut after a small stint in it. So we don't know how the long term would've gone.
I think the biggest missed opportunity in AEW was the Dark Order. Making them all corporate and stuff took a lot away from Brodies mystique. He became a boss instead of a mysterious dark presence.
It may have been a failure in the business sense, but Austin as a heel was so damn entertaining with how protective and paranoid he was over anyone but him being near Vince, to having his wife bake cookies for his boss, to all the hugging and all the bickering with Angle.
Also Rikishi was kind of the inverse of the Vince monster heel formula. Usually its after being a dominant monster heel that someone gets turned into a smiling, dancing babyface, but Rikishi was already over as a dancing babyface when they turned him heel and tried to make him a monster heel, except he couldn't beat Austin and he couldn't beat The Rock and he couldn't beat Undertaker, so then he got injured and came back as a smiling, dancing babyface again, but it was never quite the same.
Ambrose turning heel after the feel-good moment of him and Rollins winning the Tag Titles the night Roman announced his leukemia had returned was great in itself, but the aftermath ruined it, though him wearing a gas mask and getting vaccinated could've worked better if it happened in 2020 lol
I loved AEW to start, i watched a match and saw slow reactions and as a fan could telegraph a move being set up, not just set up like a pile driver where you know the process or a stunner after a gut kick or suplex from the top rope that needs setting up. They were simple actions like stopping like it was a re start. Then i noticed how they import stars and don't build them up. Other than MJF being catapulted to stardom the rest had big followings in the indies. Tony needs to watch the demise of TNA and the NWA closely, he is showing us why fans don['tg call the shots
5:43 I'll be honest: I just don't buy a babyface Cody. Dashing/Undashing was always the best Cody, and seeing how Cody won't ever turn heel means that will probably always be my favorite variation of Cody
I dont have any issues with babyface Cody but I LOVED it when he wore that mask!
Codelander will be a heel eventually.
Does the whole damn arena still go "WHOA-OH!" during his entrance music? (I don't watch a lot, I genuinely don't know) Probably a decent barometer of if he'll ever turn again.
I did it for da rock
The worse things about the Regal turn? A) It was SO easy to think of other reasons why he'd attack Mox and betray the BCC, like "they've taken me for granted," or "Mr. Friedman offered an amount of money only a fool like Moxley wouldn't say yes too(which, by the way, would've also strengthened MJF as a heel who more-or-less bought the title)," rather than "teaching a lesson" to guys who had by and large been in the biz for over a decade; and B) after allegedly teaching the lads not to trust anyone, the schmucks still seemingly TRUST EACH OTHER! Why would these guys-all of whom have been particularly hurt by Tony Khan's moronic "faces and heels personas don't matter" booking edict-still look out for each other when the faction's founder and grand pooh bah himself said it's not a big deal if you stab someone in the back? Dumb!
Really interesting
no.10, rumor has it vince pushed for bryan to be screwed by hbk. but shawn was adamant, "if this doesnt lead to a match, it is pointless." so a s compromise and to get bryan his heat back. he had bryan attack him and put him in the yes lock.
Okay. I'm completely baffled. How was the scalded dog heel run by Chris Jericho not on this list? The crowd had gotten their dearest wish to see a megaheel creatively ground into the dirt. And somehow instead of humbling him, it made him worse? That run was probably the worst story-wise in Jericho's entire career
You forgot Jeff Hardy Unleashing his Inner Demons in 2011.
Victory Road 2011 was the nail in the coffin for TNA.
This a wwe list
@@Urwrong555 They included WCW and AEW
Nice picks fellas
Big Time Becks was 🔥
STEVE AUSTIN WAS ALWAYS A HEEL,HE NEVER CHANGED HIS CHARACTER
I dont recall him hugging Vince McMahon and crying and being a coward in 1997?
WHAT?!
That Dean Ambrose angle was ahead of its time given what was about to happen with the pandemic.
I would say Eugene’s heel turn on hacksaw Jim Duggan never really made any sense
Heel Stone Cold worked until Triple H got injured, the Two Man Power Trip were legitimately intimidating. The 2nd heel turn during Invasion is what sucked
The biggest mistake in wrestling history is Matt Morgan not being able to beat cat angle for a while title
At least rikishi got the bad man theme song from his heel run
That Dean Ambrose turn could have been perfect. If they LOST the tag team match that night. Also they would have needed better writing after the fact...
Fish has to be the worst shoot name since Hickenbottom.
The edge wasn't his fault because cody got hurt
Big-time bex was the best heel run of a female in the modern era and one of the best title runs for a woman in WWE history
I was summerslam 2021 and the year long heel run was done as well as it could be. With that stated I would have preferred it explained better than it was
Forgot Stings odd heel run in 1999/2000 in WCW. He betrayed Hogan
And never got booed; they agreed with him about Hogan. Hilariously, Hogan and Bischoff (as well as Dixie and Jarrett, who were also on screen at the time) thought they would be sympathetic babyfaces against Sting in 2010 as well, in their and Russo's TNA. It didn't work (again 🤣🤣), and was retconned into a heel turn for Hulk, Bischoff and Jarrett...
i like how you could put WWE in the title just cause these guys spent some time in WWE...but so many of the turns were in another company...slick
*WWE Icons
Because only the name WWE brings in numbers
WHY did the thumbnail have Simon in it?!?
If he did it for the rock I’ll never forget it
Triple H Turning On Shane Mcmahon At Survivor Series 2017 Didn't Make Sense.
I was originally going to question why is this only wwe. But despite the title 4 of the 10 were not wwe. ?? 3 aew and 1 wcw (which is NOT wwe at the time, or ever really, wwe bought the names and tape history not the company)
Lee vs Swerve Strickland
Dean Ambrose 2018 hell run was a complete flop
I know this video is about WWF/WWE but the weirdest heel turn I've ever seen was in WCW. The turn was by Hacksaw Jim Duggan when he joined Team Canada . I thought I was going mad or seeing things .
I actually like judgement day edge
Look how well joining AEW worked out Adam Copeland, he now has nice new fractured tibia and is out for a longtime. He should have stuck with WWE the only reason he went to AEW is to work with Christian cage.
if it werent for edge turnign heel we wouldnt have judgement day
I enjoyed Austin as a heel but it was just bc it was entertaining as hell!
Vince McMahon on his female staff
I mean tbf HBK didn't really train Bryan that much. Bryan was mostly taught by someone else so number 11 shouldn't hurt that much. But damn I really wish we saw Bryan vs HBK instead of that dreaded Saudi match 🙄
Yeah, Danielson himself certainly reveres William Regal as his teacher a lot more, but at least in storyline, WWE made a lot of how Bryan's first wrestling school was HBK's academy.
@@emeraldaly7646 yeah and sure there is some truth about Danielson being part of HBK's school but Danielson was taught by someone else for the most part
The Germaphobe dean Ambrose
Badly booked heel turns seem to run in the Anoi family
At least Rikishi’s side
As his son Jimmy would go on to have the most poorly booked and lazily written heel turn I have seen in my 12 years as a wrestling fan
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Wow...I make a comment about Becky and you guys delete it. So sensitive. When all I said was her first heel turn was bad because they tried to make her a female Austin. There will never be a female Austin
Only time I truly cheered for Austin was his heel run after X7
shawn michaels being a heel will always be a bit weird for me
The Austin heel turn was really good 👍🏻
I would like to forget this video. This one is a down
Boo Garrith Button
As Cody said in an interview, if you're booing him, he's already a heel in your eyes, so his actions dont really even matter
But that just isn't true.
@DKCG0113 urm yes it is... I believe it was in an interview with CVV. In response to a question regarding the "Let's go Cody, Cody sucks" chants that happened in AEW
@@BadenAW no, I mean what he said isn't true.
Turn bs punk back to the unemployment line
Why would he be on the unemployment line?
@@DKCG0113 Because after all the bs punk has done cheering for him now is as bad as Cheering for vince
@@Dr_1212 even if that was remotely close to being true, and he were to be fired, he wouldn't apply for unemployment. He's a millionaire, he doesn't need unemployment checks, you silly goose.
@@DKCG0113 I didn't mean he.s broke I meant he should go back to sitting on his not working unemployment couch at 1 time he was best in the world now he s best in the world at being a bit!@
He can't cut a promo now without getting injured
Why does that make him worse than Vince McMahon? Vince was accused of human trafficking.