The Untold Ending of the "Jesus Revolution" Film
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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2023
- One of the most controversial aspects of the Jesus Revolution film, was Lonnie Frisbee's sinful history. People were upset this was not mentioned in the film. Here are my thoughts from a Christian perspective, and also my thoughts on how it applies to YOU!
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Does this information about Lonnie bother you? Let me know why or why not down below?
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Not really... The only thing that would bother me is people raising him on a pedestal and loosing faith because of his life.... he was a sinner... like we are currently.
Lonnie's failings happened after the time period of the film. It was not necessary for the movie.
Reminds me of that R zacharias guy.
If I remember correctly how things went after his death
Well said, brother. No, it didn't bother me. I returned to the Lord in a Calvary Chapel, so I knew the story well. All of it. These truths need to be stressed at these rebukes. On one side the pharisee mindset surfaces to criticize his shortcomings. On the other side, the secular mindset criticizes the movie for not including "all of the dirt," as it were. On it goes... Everybody's got an opinion.
What's not being talked about? The move of God at the time. The thousands of souls coming to Christ. The culture of a nation changing. It wasn't one man or one pastor or one church. It was God. Why can't we recognize when God does something profound, without trying to shift attention to the human beings that He used?
I agree, God used Lonnie despite all his flaws. HE uses flawed people, which we all are! The hypocritical self-righteous (Pharisees) are the ones who are complaining he was in the movie. The movie was great- it reminds me of my walk with Christ and the struggles I've faced and still face. Have seen it twice and going to see it again this weekend as well.
I have heard Greg Laurie speak openly about Lonnie's struggles. I don't believe the movie was necessarily trying to "hide"anything from the audience. Once Lonnie and his wife left, that was a separate story from the one the movie writers were trying to tell. The important takeaway for me is that he came back to faith. Some of the greatest heroes in the Bible were deeply flawed individuals who made terrible choices. If God can forgive someone who repents, then who are we to not forgive them?
Real Christians should stop watching "Jesus Christ" films.
They are fakes and actors dressing up and calling themselves the Son of God, the Messiah and Jesus Christ.
Please, turn to Jesus Christ before it is too late.
I completely agree. David was a man after God's heart but lied,put hits on people, had many wives and girlfriends but he loved God. We all fall short of God's glory Romans 3:23
False teacher and wolf. Everyone who preaches the gospel is persecuted, they don't become millionaires unless you believe Greg is better at this than God himself manifest in the flesh.
Yes brother! And as I understand, Lonnie had not yet "fallen" when they let him go...and he and his wife, Connie were living under the financial stress of no income and eating food thrown out from restraunts...
Lonnie wrote three books for a more clear understanding
I think the movie handled it perfectly. It was not Lonnie's life story, so it didn't need all the dirt. It did show some of his failings. Where they could have mentioned it was at the end credits, but they were gracious and only addressed the reconciliation with Chuck, which was appropriate for the content of the movie.
IMO, anyone who didn't think Lonnie should have been in the movie needs to check their self-righteousness at the door and examine their heart. Future sins don't erase past ministry. We can still celebrate the impact God made through him during that movement.
Yes Lonnie suffered In the Flesh and paid the penalty for his carnal sinful nature. But he belong to Jesus in the end. He didn't lose his salvation he lost his flesh
Future sins do not erase pass ministry because it is better to do honorable authentic ministry at one point in the past and fall later than to never do honorable and authentic ministries from the get go.
I rather a Lonnie minister to me today as striving he was once upon a time than someone like Benny Hinn who is not striving in truth.
@Holy Experience The pastor I had growing up fell years later after pastoring another church. I was devastated. But I was grateful for his ministry in my formative years. It opened my eyes to the reality of Romans 3:23. We can easily look up to pastors and Godly leaders, but at the end of the day, they're flawed, sinful people, too. Even King David fell horribly. It reminds us that Jesus is who we follow.
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Real Christians should stop watching "Jesus Christ" films.
They are fakes and actors dressing up and calling themselves the Son of God, the Messiah and Jesus Christ.
Please, turn to Jesus Christ before it is too late.
My 14 year old daughter accepted Jesus Christ into her heart after watching this movie. I haven't done a good job at exposing my daughter to the Gospel. But this movie opened a door and God 🙏 gave me the words. We read sinner's prayer together and I wanted that for my daughter for a while. I be open to any advice one would like to give to help further my daughters relationship with God.
Great age to start serving the Lord. Encourage her to read and study the Bible herself. Pray she will meet some genuine christain friends. Remind her that it's a journey to embrace and that she is a child of the one true king.
@@victoriacampbell7651 thanks so much! Great advice
As an older teen, acknowledging that God is always here with us and talking to Him about everything good and bad really draws me closer to Him. You should inform your daughter on communicating with the Holy Spirit and how He works miracles in us, everyone and everything around us. Encourage her to find worship music that fits her taste- there's so many different contemporary Christian artists out there! Let her know she was created with her own special purpose to serve God and He will never leave her side ❤
How about a youth Bible and a journal? Markers and pencil crayons if she likes to draw to express her creativity as she grows in her faith. Find a good church that has a youth group (which I would investigate first..) there are some great camps in the summer also that she could attend?
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I think people need to remember the movie was about THE MOVEMENT, how it started and who was involved in the beginnings of the movement. This was not a biography of anyone’s life only snapshots of lives.
Movement is right, just of the nether variety.
while true, and I didn't actually see the movie so I can't say for certain, but I think the big issue from what I understand is at the end of the movie they did a little textual epilogue about the rest of his life, in which they essentially lied, saying he was still preaching Jesus at the end of his life, but he wasn't actually doing that. iirc he divorced his wife, and (of course allegedly) led a life of homosexuality here and there at multiple points in his life which is likely what he was referring to as backsliding in the 80's. yeah I guess he repented in the end, and before he died he said he thought God was going to restore his health so that he COULD preach again.
so the lie, in addition to the omission which, say what you will about that but it implied a much different life, the lie is also that he wasn't "still" preaching Jesus at the end of his life. rather, he was hoping to be...
the real issue was never Lonnie but with honesty in Christian film. why include that epilogue at all if you can't tell it like it is?
@NHL 2K10 Jesus did not start Christianity!
Christianity was a name given to the followers of Christ! Remember, Jesus did not create a religion! He came to reconnect us to the Father!
@@Taterstiltskin I agree with all you’ve said. I’d like to quickly say that as John said it’s not verified proof of his “other life” and without that it’s considered gossip. So the writers probably thought the coles notes version was the safer way to go. Defamation of character is a nasty lawsuit.
@@jesuslovesyou1454- "Jesus did not start Christianity!" 😵💫
What does the Christ part of the word Christianity mean? Why were the followers of Jesus in Antioch given the name, "Christians"?
We all fall short. It is unfortunate about Lonnie but this particular time in history needed to be told. We cannot assume what his salvation status was when he died. Love, learn and forgive.
We may not be able to assume his salvation status absolutely, but I can't imagine he would've been able to do all he did in his ministry if his faith was not genuine.
If you do a little digging you can find a interview with his best friend and it includes his deathbed confession. Just do a little research
@@sorenpxI think even when are faith is genuine we can still fall 🤔.
@@CLDJ227 I take it then you are an Arminian and believe that if you sin a little too much and God will take your salvation away.
Nah he burning cuzz
Its incredibly sad how us in the church are so ready to disown those that struggle with sin. But we're never disowned by Jesus for our own struggles.
Agree with you. We want grace from God, but we can't show grace to others
You are so correct. My comments get more judgement on Christian sites than love and not one person has ever said "sister out of love I think I need to correct you" Christians are their own worst enemy.
Struggle with sin or living a lifestyle of sin while putting up a front?
Real Christians should stop watching "Jesus Christ" films.
They are fakes and actors dressing up and calling themselves the Son of God, the Messiah and Jesus Christ.
Please, turn to Jesus Christ before it is too late.
Hello.
Just know that Christianity is a religion on its own.
Christianity isn't a branch of different religions.
Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Orthodoxes, Methodists, etc... are not Christians.
They have beliefs, teachings and ideologies that are not in the Bible.
To be a true follower of Christ, a Christian, you have to obey the Word of God (The Bible - King James Version (KJV)) and only that.
I know you’ve been struggling with challenges from YT policies and practices; but at the same time your posts are hitting a whole new level of speaking the truth in love, filled with grace and encouragement. You’re going to the heart of the matter and expressing grace in situations that frequently incite judgement or avoidance in Christian communities. I find that inspiring. It refuels my spirit to hear these reminders of God’s perspective on cultural/current events, and all of us flawed humans involved in them. Thank you! May God continue to bless you, and help your posts overcome the challenging policies.
Real Christians should stop watching "Jesus Christ" films.
They are fakes and actors dressing up and calling themselves the Son of God, the Messiah and Jesus Christ.
Please, turn to Jesus Christ before it is too late.
Hello.
Just know that Christianity is a religion on its own.
Christianity isn't a branch of different religions.
Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Orthodoxes, Methodists, etc... are not Christians.
They have beliefs, teachings and ideologies that are not in the Bible.
To be a true follower of Christ, a Christian, you have to obey the Word of God (The Bible - King James Version (KJV)) and only that.
I hear a lot of people say KJV is the only version of the Bible, but never really said why. Just curious why is the KJV the only (English) version of the Bible? Anything special about the translation process? And what would you recommend for non-English speakers?
If anyone actually read Lonnies autobiography he confessed his sin and reconciled with Chuck and many others at the end of his life. His last few year of life were him professing faith in Jesus, he backslide then confessed and repented. I have know reason to believe he isn't with Lord
I attended a week-long "Jesus People" tent church when I was 15 and it had an impact on me that I still feel today. So when I heard about this movie I had to see it and bring my son with me so he could see a small part of my history. I knew a little about Lonnie's life including his death so when the movie portrayed Lonnie beginning to fall, I almost cried. He got off the path God gave him and took his own path with tragic results. As did Samson, King Saul, Adam, and many others. WWJD may have been (or still is) a slogan but it is powerful and we need to take it to heart and ask God for the answer.
Lonnie is so much like a modern David or one of the judges. So much of David’s life was a cautionary tale and God chooses to leave that ugliness in the Bible. And allows David to be part of Jesus’s ancestral line. Lonnie did maybe more sinful things than godly things. But God did use him mightily for a time. God using messed up people, even unbelievers, is a long recurring theme.
Unfortunately the church is so worried about hiding shame and looking perfect, they compound their shame with lies and cover-ups.
Real Christians should stop watching "Jesus Christ" films.
They are fakes and actors dressing up and calling themselves the Son of God, the Messiah and Jesus Christ.
Please, turn to Jesus Christ before it is too late.
Lonnie deserves a whole film about his story. There just wanted room to put in everything, we're hoping Lonnie's touching story will get a dedicated film next. All of this is in Lonnie's 3rd book from his deathbed. He didn't consider himself a homosexual, but he did do a lot of things and before he died of AIDs, repented. Powerful amazing story that needs to be told. God's love is all over the story.
@jenTess. Yes! I hope someone with an experiential understanding of the move of the Holy Spirit at that time will make a movie including Lonnie's whole story!
What Lonnie contributed to the Jesus Revolution is HUGE. Did he struggle afterwards, yes. As Did alot ofpeople then & now!!!
I loved the movie and I am so happy to hear he came back to God before he died!!
If one believes in Him, he's never "away" from God. He could have never repented of his sexuality and still be saved. The only thing that determines salvation is belief. Faith in Christ. A bad or questionable lifestyle does not separate you from Christ or God.
This reminds me of Ruslan's recent quote of not being so proud to think that God cannot work through your faults... u are really changing my perspective on a lot of things. BLESSINGS OUT!
I have been a christian for over thirty years now but for the longest time in my early and late twenties I really struggled with sin that kept reoccurring. This really started to compound until it caused me to lose all hope that God was with me, i felt abandoned. Part of the reason for this is because as I failed I started to isolate my true feelings and struggles more and more. It was only through understanding that God designed us to be in fellowship with one another , to confess our sins with trusted brothers, and to boldly approach God in these times instead of shrinking away that I started to come out of that darkness. All this to say I understand what you mean about millennials not wanting to put on a face that everything is "OK" because that only leads to the hiding of sin and isolation, at least in my own life. I wonder if this is something that Lonnie Frisbee needed too was to be open and honest to trusted people that might have been able to struggle with him.
I have a very similar story. Praise God he did not give up on me!!
When you understand that Lonny had a very abusive father, neglectful stepfather and was sexually abused by a male babysitter it does not surprise me he fell back into sin….since he didn’t get healed of the roots of why he was doing drugs in the first place.
I wondered about that. One of the actors in "End of the Spear" was actively §@¥, but it wasn't revealed until filming had begun & they decided to go ahead anyway. One person's struggle doesn't undo Chuck Smith & Greg Laurie's good works & the revival of the Jesus Movement.
Are you that scared to just say the word gay? This is kind of stupid and pathetic, and I agree that homosexuality is a sin. But huh?
Yikes...sin is sin though and we all battle with our own kind. It's just during these times in particular with the alphabet groups, I feel like this will be blown out of proportion, taken out of context (possibly confirming that lifestyle) and will yet again cause another issue with the Christian faith. God help us through your Holy Spirit to have discernment, understanding, and self control. Help us to listen first and be slow to speak. In Jesus' name, Amen.
AMEN!!
Frisbee's life is a testament to the destructiveness of sexual sin. Like Samson... still kept that one in the Bible.
The Bible doesn't sanitize reality, I don't think we should either.
@@phritz20 he was molested as a young boy several times by a family member. Lonnie’s spiritual struggle was deep. When we judge him, we lay ourselves bare for the same. I have compassion for him. He wasn’t blatantly and brazenly homosexual. He struggled. I have compassion for any survivor of sexual violence. Jesus knew his heart, as we know.
You can be LGBT and Christian 👨❤️👨
It was a 'clean cut' 17 year old neighbour who babysitted for him. It went on for years I understand. Really screwed him up inside. Something he needed to work through and talk through, but he didn't find the help he needed. Despite his ups and downs, he ended on an up with the Lord in repentance.
It is a perfect example of how Jesus can use the broken. It's not relevant for the movie. We all have a Thorne in our side, and God grace is sufficient.
He wrote a letter on his death bed, that states that he had backslid in the late eighties. He also clearly stated that he was not a homosexual and just experimented as he did with the drugs. He came back the the Lord and was restored to Christ for more at least the last 6 to 8 years of his life.
That is what I heard as well.
Greg Laurie is a true Christian and he genuinely wanted this film to spread the word of Jesus. Also Lonnie did repent before he died according to Greg. I believe him
I listened to his interview, but wasn't clear on that
I just re-watched an interview with Pastor Greg. He wasn't specific but your right, he did assure us that there was repentance in the end
I say this out of Love but the truth is the truth is the truth.
The guy who plays Jesus in the chosen is a Knight of the Templar.
This is an apostasy.
Greg laurie is a false teacher.
Greg laurie also has slso said alice cooper is saved.
But alice cooper has not changed. Yeshua changes a person. Circumcision of the heart and the mind.
2 Peter 2
King James Version
2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
Honestly, dying of AIDS as a drug addict could very easily be due to IV drug use. While the film should’ve probably touched on it, I don’t think it’s appropriate to deperson him because he was a sinner.
It is made complicated by the fact that the culture is actively assaulting the Christian stance on homosexuality as sinful, and the use of film as propaganda, but in the abstract, it could be done well.
I appreciate speaking to authenticity here, man! Didn't grow up in the church but got saved early on and didn't have Christian friends. All my friends growing up (once they thought through it) were atheist, agnostic, wiccan, satanist, whatever and talking to them about anything felt like I was fighting an uphill battle. They knew I was Christian and I was trying to prove I was a genuine person worth knowing that wouldn't treat them the way others had while also talking to them about the Bible every chance I got lol even my family would get angry or annoyed with me because of previous experiences with Christians that they just hoisted upon me as they assumed all Christians would be the same. The hurt can run sooo deep it can take so long for anyone to trust you. But it's possible! And totally worth it 😊
They did mention a bit of what happened to everyone after in the end credits. It was a show about the start.
And it did center on God working with broken people.
Now, that's what God does
"Not that anyone can boast"
God does it all, we do nothing.
It wasn't a biography. It was a film about the impact the Jesus Revolution had on Greg Laurie. Of which Lonnie and Chuck were a part.
I was at Calvary Chapel about two years after the time of this movie. I never met Lonnie, but my stepbrother knew him very well. He never saw any signs of homosexual behavior in Lonnie, only an amazing Christian man.
I completely and totally agree with what you’re saying. Jesus came for us because we needed him not because we had it together. Be authentic. Be real; in the end what else is there?
It seems the movie was about CC Church taking the focus off of the true "Jesus Movement" as being where, how and upon whom those fires of the Holy Spirit fell and kindeled, and instead placing themselves at the very center...when, at best, they were a result of the "Movement" and not as it sadly appears, that they possibly were even the very ones who derailered it! Yeshua (Jesus) is coming soon brother's and sister's, let us all repent and ask Abba Father to help us love one another now while we can! Look up...for our redemption draws near! ☝Maranatha!
The movie was not about Lonnie… it’s about the Jesus movement… but Lonnie left his own words about it all… it was because his OLD lifestyle… You can contract something before coming to Christ and die of it after coming to Christ. Read his books… it’s a wonderful testimony.
That's true. But Lonnie was practicing the lifestyle even when he was doing all these signs and wonders. Saw his own ex wife tell how he was out in the gay bars until the wee hours OF the morning. He'd read the Bible under the influence of LSD. He never changed his lifestyle. Good Fight Ministries did a good video on Lonnie. Everyone needs to pull it up on you tube and watch it. Very enlightening. The movie just white washed Lonnies life.
@@sharoncrawford7192 I think God did touch his life and he was used in a mighty way to bring people for Jesus. Perhaps he did these things, but I did hear him preach, (vid Jesus People 1972) and he did preach repentance from sin and the word of God for Salvation. All of our lives are learning how to put into practice obedience to Christ and letting him form us into a holy people. It took me years to let go after i was a Christian too, (still need work). The movie showed that Lonnie's success was going to his head and he started to try to control things and it messed him up. The guy showed fruits of repentance in later years.
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Once again, you made a very well-spoken point...I totally agree - I saw the movie last week, and since it was based on historical events, Frisbee had to be featured prominently.
thank you for this. Just thinking exactly what you said.. God uses flawed people because that's all there are!
We are a bunch of messed up people that need a Savior 🙏 ❤️.
Jesus Christ ❤️
Yes we are messed up when we come to know Jesus. But it's the blood He shed that cleans up our messes, and fixes them. That's what happens when we are born again. The Bible says we are a new creation in Christ Jesus, old things have passed away and all things have become new. If that's not what happens then maybe we aren't really born again?
Your statement of being honest and authentic while at the same time striving to be holy and turning away from sin, I needed it, thanks really. Because most times I try to come off as faultless or blameless while I battle with lust and pornography. May God give me strength to fight off temptation.
We have to remember no sin is better then the other and we are ALL sinners
There is no "better" but there are certainly worse ones
@@louispittman7367 I agree
@Louis Pittman There are plenty of fat people (i.e. gluttons) in church pews. Would you say their lives are "patternized by sin"? I think we need to be careful in defining what a "pattern" is or what "practicing" sin. Fact is, we all sin, and yes, even Christians can have sins that are habitual.
@@sorenpx
“We all sin” is often used to justify not encouraging people to repent and sin no more.
There’s also a lot of “whataboutism” used in an attempt to push acceptance of sinful lifestyles.
I ultimately disagree with people that suggest he should’ve been removed from the film, but we should also be careful not to take the correct “we are all sinners” attitude in the wrong direction.
@@martyfromnebraska1045 If in fact we all sin, then that should at least encourage a merciful and understanding attitude within us toward others who sin, because we are also guilty. When you sin, do you want the velvet glove of mercy and compassion or the iron fist of condemnation? I know which I prefer, and which has the greatest impact on me spiritually.
This is not to say that sin is good or that we should not take it seriously. But it is to say that we should at all times remember that it is something we ourselves are guilty of, and will continue to be guilty of until the day we die and are perfected.
Thanks for this, Jon.
The whole video is great, but I do wish I could let you know how personally important your last minute was for me.
Thanks so much. I am encouraged, and I know many others are and will be as well.
No one is good except God. We fall short. We're saved by grace and faith, not by any goodness we think we have.
I was wondering why he died so quickly, but also I still enjoyed this movie greatly
Edit after video:Great video I think your points hit the mark
Word! We need the gospel each and everyday! The day we think we don't, we need it even more!
Thank you Jesus for saving a sinner like me!!!!! 🙏
The movie was awesome! 😎
Jon, you have a grasp of the real nature of the gospel to a rare degree! Absolutely brilliant, brother!!
I have been following you for a long time now and I think this may be my most favorite video you've ever done. God bless you, brother!
My favorite video of yours so far! So simple and so powerful!
Lonnie's love for Jesus was real in the late 60s, I can't believe that his faith would have completely dissipated by the 90s. Of course I'm surmising here and I have absolutely no real way of truly knowing, but I'm inclined to believe that Lonnie entered eternity with his head bowed down, and an overwhelming sense of unworthiness just prior to being received into the open arms of our lord and savior. I suspect that most of us will have the same experience.
I really liked this movie. Poor Lonnie. I am SO GLAD they included Lonnie. We are all Lonnie Frisbee. Idk anyone who doesn’t sin and fall short.
That is just one of the many things I love about God!! He uses the foolish,weak, and despised things of this world to confound the wise. God doesn't think like we do!... Thank God for that.
Thank you for talking about this and reminding all believers that our salvation is a gift and we are broken people who still have struggles. Very refreshing outlook. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. Jesus still saves!
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I would like to. I didn't know about Lonnie but hearing about his struggle later in life made me sad. God knew what his life would be and saw fit to use him anyways. May we have the same love and compassion for each other that God has for us.
I watched this thinking it was going to be another bashing of people and ministers. THANK YOU for a great video and GREAT message. We need more people like you on YT
I think the lord judges us, its not for us to do, I was saved at 18 and fervent for the lord, then fell away 4yrs later, I returned to walk with him nearly 40 years later, a year and a half ago...God did not forsake me, we don't know our futures and cannot judge on others❤
Awesome video and message, thank for the mercy, kindness, and self reflection and it encourages
Dude, this hit so hard. The things you touched on have been my thoughts and things I have been praying about for a while. Spot on dude!
I grew up 10 years in a church with a culture that projected a false front of orthodoxy. Then God led us into a new church home, where the pastor struggled with homosexuality. He was married to a Godly woman, and he still is, but the struggle is still there. I would rather have fellowship with others who show their struggle with sin than those who pretend they don’t struggle with sin.
I love how you discuss all angles of any topic.
John, I want your shirt! Why can't I find it in the store? Do you really only have one sweatshirt available or am I just confused?
I appreciated the balance in this message. I approached it expecting a diatribe, but it had much more substance than I expected. Sure hope to see more of these.
Yessssss!!!!! Thank you! This is a message many prideful people need to hear! 🔥🔥
I grew up in Calvary Chapel churches from the 90s into the 2010s and for a long time they either downplayed or completely erased Lonnie Frisbee's impact in those early days. I only learned about him in CC because of my own research. The truth of the matter is that God uses imperfect and sinful people for His glory. I remember reading that Chuck Smith eulogized him as a man like Samson: a man mightily used by God who ultimately fell to temptation.
'I never lived a gay life style'. Lonnie Frisbee, in his recorded memoirs.
Well he could have got HIV simply from his drug use. His claim is plausible.
@@FronteirWolf ...and just good old-fashioned heterosexual activity when he was in that season that he was backslidden/not in right standing with The Lord.
God did a lot of great things through lannie. We are all sinners. I loved the movie, and it is strengthening my faith.
Given the time period, I'd be shocked if he DIDN'T have a drug issue!
It’s getting to the point that I’m shocked when someone or their kid doesn’t have a drug problem now.
Thank you for reminding us of that beautiful scripture. Every single one of us falls short of God's glorious standard. I was well into my 40s when I got saved. There isn't one day that goes by that I'm not in awe of how Jesus transformed me, and I'm still a sinner, I just don't practice it any longer ☝️✝️🕊🙏
I had been struggling with some things I had heard about the film. I have not seen it but have friends who did. I know that God can use sinners saved by grace to reach others. It is often easy to forget that when their sins are not the same as my own. Thanks for this video.
Steven Bancarz, Isaiah Saldivar, Troy Black, Charles Lawson, Voddie Baucham. John Ramerize, Gino Jennings, The Last Reformation Website sight.. Just keep going.. If I broke down the struggles, habits, power of darkness I was swimming in.. 97% percent of man-made Religion people would be confused at how The One True Living God could actually rescue such a person.. Those that have surrendered everything,, family..life.. Everything unto The Lord Jesus Christ understand.. Just keep moving forward, Yeshua, Jesus Christ will handle the rest..👏😎🙏💪☝👍
Who is going to hunger for God other than the profoundly infirmed? Of course those that hunger and thirst for God's righteousness are often those that know the cold & dark existence of life outside of the Light.
Powerful message! Thank you! Yes, we come broken to be mended, we come wounded to be healed, we come desperate to be rescued, we come emptied to be filled, we come guilty to be pardoned by the Blood of Christ the Lamb, and I'm welcome with open arms, Praise God, just as I am!
Dude very well could have repented before he passed. That's between him and God.
This is one of your best videos! Thank you for sharing.
Dope vids. Love to hear. What the idea behind the subliminal flashes and the out-row is for. Is this L gor hacks?
Excellent commentary! Completely agree. Thanks for tackling this topic
What more can be said? This is wisdom brother. ❤️🕊
You nailed all the perspectives and spoke in love and truth!
Amen! Points well made and glorifying to God!
I'm blessed by this video. Thank you brother
Agreed! I'm 22 and I've been going through powerful hymns that expound upon the struggles of Christians, and their resolution in Christ regardless. Somehow this aspect was watered down by today, so that God is only some "depression clinic" that you heal with and then just do the exact same thing you were doing afterwards.
What's crazy to me is that I believe God may be priming hearts to read those certain hymns again. Like seriously. Take the well-known hymn "It Is Well With My Soul" for instance:
"When peace like a river attendeth my way,
When Sorrows like sea Billows roll,
Whatever my lot thou has taught me to say,
It is well, it is well, with my soul."
And that's a "common" song! I'm flabbergasted by how much faith is stored into some of the older hymns.
I love the hymns, but have you read the Psalms? Very powerful stuff. God bless
Have you researched why that song was written and what it's about?
Your review was not what I expected. Thank you for keeping all things real. God bless.
I challenge anyone of us to have our personal lives, thoughts or assumed motives not mealt under the white hot spotlight. Can't be done.
Depending on the drugs, lots of diseases spread by shared drug use. And in the end, it is between God and Lonnie, not us and Lonnie.
Found this really encouraging. Thanks, man
Excellent well thought out perspective.
Great video, brother!
We fall over and over again - thank God he still pursues us- His grace is amazing but we should not abuse that grace- pray for conviction - repent and appreciate Gods steadfastness with you. Appreciate this godly’s man wisdom and approach to the gospel
Thanks for bringing this out my brother. You nailed it.
Well done. God bless you. Praise The Lord.
Excellent and important points. Thank you.
Such an encouraging message!
Great commentary!
Great conversation
As someone ild enough to be a Granny to you. I enjoy your videos. Thank you and God bless you and yours! I want to see the film but am hoping it stays in the movies till the weather breaks.
Good point. You put a different spin on it than the way I perceived it. Thank you.
Perfect on-point analysis. 👍🏻
Lionsgate should take the opportunity to make another movie about this period but from Lonnie's perspective and include the abuse he went through that opened the door to his demonized behavior.
I love your videos! Thank you always
Great video ❤ I agree that the self-righteousness of Christians turn off people who might be seeking to know Jesus. He said. “For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost.” Let’s stop ranking our sins and put down our tassels.
Amen brother you’re speaking nothing but the truth in this video God bless you brother
As a baby boomer I completely agree with you my friend. My generation was guilty of putting up a front of goodness while hiding some pretty wrong stuff. This is off putting for younsters who just want honesty, no matter how ugly it may look. How else will we learn and improve? Blessings my young friend, and thank you for the wonderful work you are doing.
I get that the film was from an earlier timeframe, but they mentioned him coming back in 1980 in the end credits. They never intended to tell the viewers what happened to him. It was misleading.
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God - Romans 3:23
People will always complain about something. At the end of the day this is public information. No one hid it & like it was stated, the movie stayed true to the timeline about Lonnie durning the Movement. It’s actually really irritating that people keeping picking at everything. Just eat the meat & throw out the bones. We know that sin is sin. We ALL struggle. I’m sure at the end of Lonnie’s life he had lots of people calling him out & going in on his life. What is the point of bringing it up again?? Some people need to get a grip & loosen up.
Omg, you just articulated my exact same thots and stance on LF and the whole Jesus Movement of the Hippie Era Brother! Loved your nuanced and Biblically-balance stance on most issues.
Greatly saddened by mainstream Evangelical Christianity's stance on divine GRACE in soteriology but never applying it on the existential day-to-day level in relation to the all-purposive wisdom of our God...
Thank you for being fair in your comments about Lonnie Frisbee.
Just for the record, here's what I sent another UA-camr who made judgmental remarks.
I've seen the Jesus Revolution movie as well, and I did not see Lonnie Frisbie as sent by satan. He was a man who spoke his mind and did nothing but tell the minister the truth about the rejection of hippies. Churches of all places, if they have God's Power working in them, are doors that need to be open for all people to come in and receive devine help and encouragement with their life transformations into holiness. Lonnie did not force himself on that minister, nor did the minister have to allow Lonnie's crowd in.
Lonnie did go to that church not preaching witchcraft, he went preaching a relationship with God.
Lonnie did get married an divorced at one point. He came from a past of drugs, sex men and women, and he was not the only one among his peers. Lots of men and women (not just hippies) the world over have indulged in one, both, or all of these. The problem is, church people can't separate past and present. Once branded a homosexual, always a homo in their mentality. Lonnie did die from AIDS, after living a life of being fully used by God with His Power to heal and cast out demons. How did he contract AIDS, from a needle or sex an infected man, or woman? All it takes is just one time, and we don't know how he got it, and there's no need to just sling his life of good works aside just because of the way he died. Christian church people are the only ones who kill off their own wounded.
I'm sure God warned Lonnie not to go back to whatever he was backtracking into, just as He talks to us all. I haven't run into any perfect people, neither will you. God could have healed Lonnie but chose not to. Leaving a great example for none of us to think we are bulletproof and the unthinkable can't happen to followers of Christ even if they are working under the manifestation of power in the Holy Ghost, and Lonnie is not the only one who has royally messed up. He just happened to be famous, and in a time where medicines were not as powerful as today.
What I have found, demons of people's past will revisit, especially in times when people are discouraged or low. Will we indulge or walk on? Will there be anyone there who understands and lifts us up, or will they only bring self-righteous judgments and condemnation?
Very excellent points, I really appreciate this 🙏
You sir, are a beacon. Thank you for speaking real truth. Truly thank you. We need more people in the world like you to spread the actual word
Yup because instead of just preaching the goodness of Christ we try to slide our own goodness in there. Then when our true selves are revealed we make Christ look bad.
Thanks for busting out the scripture! You have a gift for articulation and I wish you'd do that more often. God bless, bro!
Thank you!!