Nah, I've also looked in some Gyromite and some other five pins NES carts. My friend let me borrow her adapter for this video and it was my first time that actually saw one in person. By the way, I freaking love your UA-cam channel and it was an inspiration for me to make mine.
I have been talking ab a nintendo game I rented in the 80s with a ribbon attached just as you showed. I live in a very small town and have found only one other person who knew what I was talking ab. It was a regualar cartrige with a light blue adapter attached with a ribbon. The game, as I remember, was a side stroller where you either played as baby Mario or helped him. This was on the 8 bit nes around 1988. You just blew my mind with this upload and the ribbon adaptor. Everyone told me I was crazy and I was remembering wrong but you have just validated my story. Thank you so much!!!!!!
@@8bitjoystick You have no idea how much this has helped me. I CANT BELIEVE YOU FOUND THE GAME. This had been a mystery to me for 30 years and everyone told me I was crazy.
These adapters are the only reason I own two copies of Gyromite. Or rather, why I bought one copy of Gyromite, and was amused when the seller sent me a second copy as well.
Yup, and it was Excitebike that helped Nintendo RD1 develop Super Mario Bros. But did you know why you could not save your levels? That totally got me since Zelda had a battery save.
@@guyverGODZILLAheiseiERA thanks I have a lot of fun making thumbnails. I actually went from a beard to a mustache so you can more easily see me smile and thumbnails.
@@8bitjoystick 8BIT you know full well i meant this LMAO Next time someone says that>>>> I put on weight, I'm going to tell them that I'm packing a famicom adapter
Wrecking Crew and Duck Hunt also could include them. I've gotten 3 Wrecking crew with the adapters, about 10 years ago. you used to be able to find them based on the purple on the program series logo but now they have been switched out because it's fairly common knowledge for the hardcore collectors now.
@@8bitjoystick I have heard this as well. I've never personally owned a Stack Up to check. But I do know that there are FAR more Gyromite carts than Stack Up carts.
My Dad made one of those 'sawed off' adapters in late 90's from a Gyromite cart. Still use it - some of the third party versions grip a bit too tightly.
Famicom had a basic programming cart with a keyboard and a way to save your programs to a cassette tape? Damn that would have been the tits to have for the NES.
@@ramgladore I think in the early 1980s, an NES protype was displayed at an electronics show. It had a keyboard and more. I have a hard time finding possible photos. From what I could see, the styling was much different in appearance than the Famicom keyboard attachment. There was no red color, and it looked more like a brick to match the NES.
3:12 Technically, they do fit in regular slot-loading NES systems, since you don't actually have to push the cart down to play NES games in those systems! I always used to think you did, but it turns out, nope -- you can just insert the game, but then not press it down into place, and it'll still play just fine. There are even some NES systems that are broken in such a way that games will ONLY play this way -- pushing them down causes the system not to read the PCB anymore, for some reason.
I will have to give that a try. I mean it makes sense if it's connecting but i mean it's just laying on the pins and not locked. Over three decades and I still sort of think that the NES "Zero Force" Connector is sort of weird.
It's the pins. My NES works, but only if I barely push the cart in far enough to clear the case. One of these days, I'll replace the slot, but I basically don't ever use it for actual gaming as I prefer to use my Mister, so it's not a priority.
This is a modern myth. The NES did require you to press down for full contact. The Game Genie only worked because the PCB was too thick. This could actually bend your pins and make them less reliable. …but the Game Genie isn’t why people think this today. It’s for two reasons: 1) People tweaking the pins for a tighter connection that works even without pressing down goes WAY back so there are a lot of them like that out there now… and a lot of the guides incorrectly tell you that they were originally tight enough to boot without pressing down when they were not. 2) Aftermarket replacement connectors do not require you to press down and often work better when you don’t. I’m not even talking about the ones that use full insertion force connectors, like Blinking Light Win (“Keep Calm and Don’t Press Down” sticker) or the other two that came out in 2024.
Nice. One of these days I need to make a video or two on Retro Games in Brazil, especially TecToy. I live in Portland Oregon and one of the other retro game youtuber is Retro Gamer Brasil. I need to reach out to him and make a video with him. www.youtube.com/@RetroGamerBrasil
Very cool. Some time ago I made my own by taking one out of a Gyromite cartridge and then cutting the bottom of the cartridge off to go around it. After years of use, I've yet to find a Famicom game that won't work on it.
Wow now I know why my bootleg 18-1 combo cart from the 80’s looked like this. The games were on the famcom cart and the other piece was just a NES adapter. I wish i still had it now. I would prefer some famicom games from Japan try them in my NES with this adapter.
I mainly collect Famicom games these days and I find older bootleg carts fascinating. There are so many awesome Famicom games that NES-Only games had no idea about. ua-cam.com/video/NEIZgJFQgAo/v-deo.htmlsi=Caa3235HatnvLSqg
I just checked and I have about 20 various black box 5 screw games, everything from gyromite to mach rider, and all have been in my collection for at least 25 years. Going to try taking them apart later and see if anything pops up!!
The load and save functions do work. They only way is to have an ENIO board for your front loader. I have done this and works. Just make sure the volume set at 10.
@@8bitjoystick the keyboard can be found on ebay... as for the recorder any tape deck will do as long as there is a phone and mic input. I use a sony digital recorder with max volume. Works and stores everything in mp3. Vs excitebike for fds is so much better and you can save everything on disk.
@@8bitjoystick Yes, most modern emulators have a save state feature along with some hardware clones. I love that about my Mister that I can save my place if duty calls somewhere else.
the game Stack Up is guaranteed to have an adapter inside it. any of the 5 screw games could have one in them but they are rare to find. games such as gyromite, pinball, etc
I think the experience of Nintendo's many many commercial failures in their diversification ventures in the 1960s and 1970s gave them this fear that their current success with selling electronic toys and video games could end at any time and so they just had to keep adding fuel to the NES fire and that's why they wanted to repurpose Japanese manufactured game boards for the US market. It sort of reminds me of Leonard nimoy and he had a success with playing Spock but leading up to it. He had such financial difficulties as an actor that he never ever turned anything down because he was afraid that his success was going to dry up at any moment. And that is why the famicom adapters is like Leonard Nimoy singing the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins.
@@8bitjoystickI think it's more to do with just how bad the industry was at the time and the uncertainty about including Rob and making the console more VCR like would be sufficient. There had been a lot of failed systems over the previous decade, especially over the previous couple years. As far as Leonard Nimoy goes, part of that comes down to the way that the TV contracts of the era were written. Typically the cast would only get paid for the first few airings of the show. It's why Dawn Wells and Sherwood Schwartz were the only ones collecting royalties on the show decades later. Schwartz being the creator did and Wells being married to an agent opted to take payment in part based on royalties.
Stack Ups are hard to come by to begin with. I've never taken one apart. Are really ALL of them filled with adapters? Lots of Gyromites are. A few Pinballs and Excitebikes. I've heard rumors about Super Mario Bros, but never seen one.
@@cooltaylor1015 Yes. Stack-Up had an extremely small production run and every single copy has the adapter. That also means you don’t have to pay big bucks for it since you can just buy a Japanese copy and supply your own adapter from a cheap copy of Gyromite.
I bought a copy of Gyromite for one of these, even though it was a 5-screw cartridge it had no converter and I was disappointed. I don't even have a R.O.B.
Thanks. I am trying to make short and sweet videos that are more tight like this. When I was grinding to get monetized my videos just kept getting longer and longer. BTW. I just subscribed to your channel and will check it out.
The official nintendo ones are pretty rare and tough to find inside carts. The closest thing is the Hyperkin Famicom to NES adapter, it actually has a cord and is the one that I used in the video. www.amazon.com/Hyperkin-Adapter-Famicom-nintendo-entertainment-system/dp/B076CBJ3GP They also make another one shaped like an NES cart. www.amazon.com/HyperConvert-Famicom%C2%AE-Cartridge-Nintendo-Entertainment-System/dp/B0CWJPX9N4/
@@8bitjoystick I also think about the era and the stories that did reach the USA. Back then, many people were talking about how Japan is 10 years in the future. Around 2017, I saw a photo of Shibuya Crossing, and knew that was in the pictures of Japan being 10 years in the future. I heard about people traveling there on business, but I do not remember much of what they said. Since I was much younger, I did not hear the story of the used panty vending machine. That story got a lot further west than the fact that they got banned. My desire to visit as a tourist happenned in 1989. I would say reason #1 was that the Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo arrived. Turbo power sounded like magic to 80s kids. When I heard of twin turbo power, it sounded like ultra magic.
Well, I think all you need to do is to have a copy of Excitebike, plugged into a Famicom and to have the Family Basic Keyboard plugged into the expansion port. Then you have a cassette recorder plugged into the keyboard and then you record it to audio tape. I want to do this.
@@johnathanstevens8436 I thought the FDS was built for this purpose. I suppose that came later, as Metroid and Zelda I arrived later. Metroid had a save menu to FDS instead of a password. Zelda I had it, whereas the USA got battery backed memory. I have heard of the FDS bot making it to the USA because better carts became more affordable. Battery backed saves became less expensive, and expanded carts with mappers became less expensive.
oh I disabled the lock out chips in both my NES systems! ua-cam.com/video/S30-H5izhDE/v-deo.htmlsi=jqs6AtaZgCHhuGmr&t=416 What gets me is all these extra pins and yet they don't have enough for expanded audio from on cart chips like the Konami and Sunsoft sound chips. OH NINTENDO!!!
Would it be possible for modern game develop enthusiasts to take a copy of an ExciteBike rom and reprogram it to save to SRam, which on a modern emulator would just save it as a file?
NES ROM Hackers have already done that! "Description: This patch finally adds SAVE/LOAD functionality to the old classic Excitebike! No need for a tape-recorder now, it saves your designed track to SRAM instead! (”Best time” is not saved at the moment). This also patches the ROM to the MMC1 Mapper also." www.romhacking.net/hacks/2428/
i thought this might be about the $10,000 in 1980's drug money that was found inside an excitebike cart. at least i think it was excitebike. havent seen the vid in years
It was 5k in a copy of NES Golf. I know because I’m the guy who found 2oz of fent inside NES Golf… and another 2oz inside a PAL copy of Roller Games with a broken PAL Isolated Warrior PCB inside.
@@emmettturner9452 if you had not given me 3 seperate occasions where this happened to you i would be more inclined to believe you unless you had some kind of proof
I wonder if you're going to talk about the tape cassette add-on that allowed you to record your own tracks? Keeping my fingers crossed your not going to talk Famicom converters in the black box games
Yup, the chinese hardware hackers in the 80s did not really give a rip about international trademark law. Hudson did NOT make the Honey Bee adapter.. however they DID make Famicom Basic for Nintendo.
I freaking love Hogan's Alley. In a way. It's weird to see just how much of a commercial failure the famicom gun was in Japan and contrast that with just how incredibly popular the zapper was in the US. Did you know that Gumshoe never got a Japanese release? It was a Nintendo made light gun game that was made exclusively for the Western market. The Nintendo light gun games are a perfect reason to keep a CRT TV around so you can play it the way that it was intended.
Wait wait wait! So what you're saying is bootleg international cartridge adapters made by companies out of Hong Kong in the early 1990s don't give a rip about international trademark law? I am shocked.
Well, do you think that they took the adapter out and put in a regular board in them? Or they just kept the carts themselves, but granted these are really rare and I've never actually seen them in person until now. CURSE YOU COLLECTORS!!!!
@@8bitjoystick There may have been some removed, however, I don't really see any reason for them to separate the adapter from the shell only to swap in a regular game. The two are more valuable together than separated. It could also be that there were a bunch of 5 screw cases with regular carts as their production capacity for the NA version caught up with demand and they simply started using those until they ran out of the easier to close 5 screw ones.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade well, it used to be there were not a lot of ways to play FC games in the US short of actually bringing over a Famicom so adapters like these were in demand to do so.
@@skylinefever Zelda 1 got a famicom cart but not Zelda 2 in Japan. The famicom cartridge release of Castlevania was very late in the systems lifespan and is crazy expensive because there's not a lot of copies made
@@tobalaz My bad, I guess I did miss certain points. I was certain it happenned in the early 1990s, as Nintendo made many NES Zelda I and Zelda II carts. One feature of them is that those carts are plain grey instead of gold. I took some interest in the very late and very expensive games Justbreed and Lagrange point. Justbreed has a battle system similar to Shining Force I and II. However I think in many ways it is better. The MMC5 mapper made the game enormous and have some extra sound channels. Lagrange Point was a turn based space RPG. It got a VRC7 chip which was probably the most powerful add on audio chip the Famicom ever had. I downloaded the Zelda FDS ROM and late Famicom ROM rerelease. The rerelease had to remove the FDS audio. It received the same audio as the NES cart.
There is a GUARANTEED WAY to get one EVERY SINGLE TIME. Don't go for excitebke, Don't even go for Gyromite as some reccommend Go for STACK-UP!! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of all North American STACK-UP Cartridges have the converter on the inside. But, you would pay more because Stack-up is rarer than other Black box titles (with maybe the exception of Donkey Kong Jr Math.)
Well I enjoy the lotto jackpot aspect of looking for adapters i actually own three famicom to NES adapters and probably don't need one of my own but I might keep looking.
Why are you so focused on Excitebike? It’s hardly the one most associated with the adapter, especially since it wasn’t bundled with the NES Deluxe Set back when Nintendo was resorting to these. You definitely picked the wrong game to hunt for it in! I have several games with the adapter including Duck Hunt, Gyromite (the one most know), Pinball, Stack-Up (every copy has it), Hogan’s Alley, and Excitebike. Wrecking Crew can also have it but I don’t think my copy does.
Well, the game that I actually opened up was a five-pin copy of Gyromite. I like Excitebike. I also definitely respect its influence on Super Mario Bros. I think it's interesting when game designers and developers get more powerful hardware and they start making games that are only possible in that generation of hardware. Excitebike is one of those and then once they figured out the hardware scrolling of excitebike it led to Super Mario Bros. You have to wonder what would have happened if they made a version of Super Mario Bros. that took advantage of the famicom data recorder and allowed you to design your own levels. We could have had Super Mario Maker back in 1986
@@8bitjoystick Yeah, 5-screw Gyromite is where most come from since it was bundled with the console back then forcing many to buy it whether they wanted to or not. Deluxe Set was the only set when the adapters were being used. That makes it particularly common but it’s also particularly cheap since ROB the Robot and all the gyros are a required accessory and very few survived intact/complete… making the majority of Gyromite carts useless. Of course, you might have to look through dozens of 5-screw copies to find one with an adapter these days but that’s after decades of people taking them out of circulation. Everyone knows to check Gyromite! :)
More specifically he wanted attention. He is fed three times a day, he gets a can of wet food in the morning and at night in the afternoon he gets dry cat food from a dispenser. He also gets fat trained every time I take him to the vet. But he gets increasingly vocal every time that I set up my equipment to record. In many of my videos I have music and you don't hear him talk. But now I am only having music in part of the video and as a result you get to hear him make a noise quite frequently. I stopped editing him out a while ago
Uhm... no... the Honey Bee was not well regarded back in the day when I was working with this stuff. It was unreliable at defeating the 10NES protection and if you opened it up, they used a few basic discreet components in an effort to try and overload the lockout mechanism.
Back in the day I've only heard of the Honey Bee but I never actually saw one in person. The 10NES chips on both of my NES consoles are disabled. ua-cam.com/video/yVJA8gXqqAU/v-deo.htmlsi=huBIccDYKN1uDDzF&t=975
@@8bitjoystick They were absolute garbage and a popular item at FuncoLand back in the mail order days. Sure they'd make your Famicom game fit in your NES, but they were about 50/50 when it came to defeating the lockout chip.
Was it just Excite Bike you looked for the adaptor? I know a few other early NES games had them too, Gyromite was definitely one.
Nah, I've also looked in some Gyromite and some other five pins NES carts. My friend let me borrow her adapter for this video and it was my first time that actually saw one in person.
By the way, I freaking love your UA-cam channel and it was an inspiration for me to make mine.
Found one in NES Pinball cartridge
You lucky duck! That makes sense considering Nintendo Pinball was a FC Pulse Wave/Black Label game that had no game changes between the US and Japan.
Samezies :) Got a string looped around to pull it out of the NES to eject aftewards
I have been talking ab a nintendo game I rented in the 80s with a ribbon attached just as you showed. I live in a very small town and have found only one other person who knew what I was talking ab. It was a regualar cartrige with a light blue adapter attached with a ribbon. The game, as I remember, was a side stroller where you either played as baby Mario or helped him. This was on the 8 bit nes around 1988. You just blew my mind with this upload and the ribbon adaptor. Everyone told me I was crazy and I was remembering wrong but you have just validated my story. Thank you so much!!!!!!
Was this the game that was passed off as "Baby Mario" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bio_Miracle_Bokutte_Upa
I bet it was a bootleg famicom version of Bio Miracle Bokeutte Upa ua-cam.com/video/_alQrPMNBT0/v-deo.html
@@8bitjoystick You have no idea how much this has helped me. I CANT BELIEVE YOU FOUND THE GAME. This had been a mystery to me for 30 years and everyone told me I was crazy.
These adapters are the only reason I own two copies of Gyromite.
Or rather, why I bought one copy of Gyromite, and was amused when the seller sent me a second copy as well.
Well did one of them have an adapter? They're actually pretty rare.
Excitebike is why I wanted a Nintendo as a kid. Was one of the first games I had. One of the greatest games ever!
Yup, and it was Excitebike that helped Nintendo RD1 develop Super Mario Bros.
But did you know why you could not save your levels? That totally got me since Zelda had a battery save.
Motocross Maniacs was awesome on gameboy too!
@@8bitjoystickrental stores made more off the replay
We found our official adapters in 5 screw gyromite and pinball. You can sometimes tell what ones have them by the weight of the cartridge.
Next time someone says that I put on weight, I'm going to tell them that I'm packing a famicom adapter
Needs to be made into a sticker 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@guyverGODZILLAheiseiERA thanks I have a lot of fun making thumbnails. I actually went from a beard to a mustache so you can more easily see me smile and thumbnails.
@@8bitjoystick 8BIT you know full well i meant this LMAO
Next time someone says that>>>> I put on weight, I'm going to tell them that I'm packing a famicom adapter
Wrecking Crew and Duck Hunt also could include them. I've gotten 3 Wrecking crew with the adapters, about 10 years ago. you used to be able to find them based on the purple on the program series logo but now they have been switched out because it's fairly common knowledge for the hardcore collectors now.
I have to wonder if I had any in my old collection back in the day.. oh well
These can be in any black box game with a 5 screw cart that has the same ROM between USA and Japan.
Gyromite seems to be the most common.
So when here said that Stack Up was a 100% rate of having an adapter.
@@8bitjoystick I have heard this as well.
I've never personally owned a Stack Up to check.
But I do know that there are FAR more Gyromite carts than Stack Up carts.
My Dad made one of those 'sawed off' adapters in late 90's from a Gyromite cart. Still use it - some of the third party versions grip a bit too tightly.
Crafty hacker dad is crafty.
Famicom had a basic programming cart with a keyboard and a way to save your programs to a cassette tape? Damn that would have been the tits to have for the NES.
Well, they could have slotted it on the expansion port on the bottom of the NES that most people don't know about.
It sort of makes the whole name. "Nintendo Family Computer" makes sense if you could actually write programs and save them.
@@ramgladore I think in the early 1980s, an NES protype was displayed at an electronics show. It had a keyboard and more.
I have a hard time finding possible photos. From what I could see, the styling was much different in appearance than the Famicom keyboard attachment. There was no red color, and it looked more like a brick to match the NES.
@@ramgladore hence the name: Family Computer.
3:12 Technically, they do fit in regular slot-loading NES systems, since you don't actually have to push the cart down to play NES games in those systems! I always used to think you did, but it turns out, nope -- you can just insert the game, but then not press it down into place, and it'll still play just fine. There are even some NES systems that are broken in such a way that games will ONLY play this way -- pushing them down causes the system not to read the PCB anymore, for some reason.
I will have to give that a try. I mean it makes sense if it's connecting but i mean it's just laying on the pins and not locked. Over three decades and I still sort of think that the NES "Zero Force" Connector is sort of weird.
It's the pins. My NES works, but only if I barely push the cart in far enough to clear the case. One of these days, I'll replace the slot, but I basically don't ever use it for actual gaming as I prefer to use my Mister, so it's not a priority.
@@Wyrdwad It was the only way to plug in the Game Genie.
This is a modern myth. The NES did require you to press down for full contact. The Game Genie only worked because the PCB was too thick. This could actually bend your pins and make them less reliable.
…but the Game Genie isn’t why people think this today. It’s for two reasons:
1) People tweaking the pins for a tighter connection that works even without pressing down goes WAY back so there are a lot of them like that out there now… and a lot of the guides incorrectly tell you that they were originally tight enough to boot without pressing down when they were not.
2) Aftermarket replacement connectors do not require you to press down and often work better when you don’t. I’m not even talking about the ones that use full insertion force connectors, like Blinking Light Win (“Keep Calm and Don’t Press Down” sticker) or the other two that came out in 2024.
In Brazil we had a lot of 60to72 and 72to60 adapters because the clone systems and pirate cartridges came in both formats.
Nice. One of these days I need to make a video or two on Retro Games in Brazil, especially TecToy. I live in Portland Oregon and one of the other retro game youtuber is Retro Gamer Brasil. I need to reach out to him and make a video with him.
www.youtube.com/@RetroGamerBrasil
Very cool. Some time ago I made my own by taking one out of a Gyromite cartridge and then cutting the bottom of the cartridge off to go around it. After years of use, I've yet to find a Famicom game that won't work on it.
Did you add a strap to get it out of the NES? Super crafty!
@@8bitjoystick I didn't need the strap because I have a top loader. I had thought about adding one though as I also have a regular NES, but never did.
I have found 3 or 4 of the 5 screw games with the adapter. Not Excite bike but other nes games that had it. There were about a dozen of them
So far I've heard Stack Up, Gyromite, Pinball and Excitebike.
Wow now I know why my bootleg 18-1 combo cart from the 80’s looked like this. The games were on the famcom cart and the other piece was just a NES adapter. I wish i still had it now. I would prefer some famicom games from Japan try them in my NES with this adapter.
I mainly collect Famicom games these days and I find older bootleg carts fascinating. There are so many awesome Famicom games that NES-Only games had no idea about. ua-cam.com/video/NEIZgJFQgAo/v-deo.htmlsi=Caa3235HatnvLSqg
I just checked and I have about 20 various black box 5 screw games, everything from gyromite to mach rider, and all have been in my collection for at least 25 years. Going to try taking them apart later and see if anything pops up!!
Make a UA-cam video doing it
The load and save functions do work. They only way is to have an ENIO board for your front loader. I have done this and works. Just make sure the volume set at 10.
I'd like to get a Famicom Data Recorder and a Family BASIC Keyboard set. But honestly, I can always just use the save/load feature on my EverDrives.
@@8bitjoystick the keyboard can be found on ebay... as for the recorder any tape deck will do as long as there is a phone and mic input. I use a sony digital recorder with max volume. Works and stores everything in mp3. Vs excitebike for fds is so much better and you can save everything on disk.
@@8bitjoystick Yes, most modern emulators have a save state feature along with some hardware clones. I love that about my Mister that I can save my place if duty calls somewhere else.
I think the famicom game Armadillo, uses that thing for game save too!
@@SylveonTrapito I will have to look into that. Armadillo came out in 1991 and so the famicom data recorder was well forgotten long before then
Very cool! I totally geeked to this and subbed to your channel.
Thank you very much. I'm glad to see this video take off. I totally need to keep it short and sweet like this. My old videos tend to be too damn long.
the game Stack Up is guaranteed to have an adapter inside it. any of the 5 screw games could have one in them but they are rare to find. games such as gyromite, pinball, etc
I think the experience of Nintendo's many many commercial failures in their diversification ventures in the 1960s and 1970s gave them this fear that their current success with selling electronic toys and video games could end at any time and so they just had to keep adding fuel to the NES fire and that's why they wanted to repurpose Japanese manufactured game boards for the US market.
It sort of reminds me of Leonard nimoy and he had a success with playing Spock but leading up to it. He had such financial difficulties as an actor that he never ever turned anything down because he was afraid that his success was going to dry up at any moment. And that is why the famicom adapters is like Leonard Nimoy singing the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins.
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@@8bitjoystickI think it's more to do with just how bad the industry was at the time and the uncertainty about including Rob and making the console more VCR like would be sufficient. There had been a lot of failed systems over the previous decade, especially over the previous couple years.
As far as Leonard Nimoy goes, part of that comes down to the way that the TV contracts of the era were written. Typically the cast would only get paid for the first few airings of the show. It's why Dawn Wells and Sherwood Schwartz were the only ones collecting royalties on the show decades later. Schwartz being the creator did and Wells being married to an agent opted to take payment in part based on royalties.
Stack Ups are hard to come by to begin with. I've never taken one apart. Are really ALL of them filled with adapters?
Lots of Gyromites are. A few Pinballs and Excitebikes. I've heard rumors about Super Mario Bros, but never seen one.
@@cooltaylor1015 Yes. Stack-Up had an extremely small production run and every single copy has the adapter. That also means you don’t have to pay big bucks for it since you can just buy a Japanese copy and supply your own adapter from a cheap copy of Gyromite.
I bought a copy of Gyromite for one of these, even though it was a 5-screw cartridge it had no converter and I was disappointed.
I don't even have a R.O.B.
I have also tried opening up a five 5 screw Gyromite, did it twice. no adapters both times. these are actually not that common.
I remember starring at the save and loading screens with my siblings, hoping something would happen.
recently, I got a cassette deck that has a audio in. Now all I have to do is get a famicom Basic keyboard and I can actually use it.
Great video! I really enjoyed it.
Thanks. I am trying to make short and sweet videos that are more tight like this. When I was grinding to get monetized my videos just kept getting longer and longer. BTW. I just subscribed to your channel and will check it out.
I wonder where I can get a famicom to nes adapter like the one you had at the start
The official nintendo ones are pretty rare and tough to find inside carts.
The closest thing is the Hyperkin Famicom to NES adapter, it actually has a cord and is the one that I used in the video.
www.amazon.com/Hyperkin-Adapter-Famicom-nintendo-entertainment-system/dp/B076CBJ3GP
They also make another one shaped like an NES cart.
www.amazon.com/HyperConvert-Famicom%C2%AE-Cartridge-Nintendo-Entertainment-System/dp/B0CWJPX9N4/
The 1980s NES hacking made me think about how much more was lost in translation before reaching the USA.
@@skylinefever I don't think I'm ever going to run out of famicom only games to make videos about. There is literally more than a thousand games.
@@8bitjoystick I also think about the era and the stories that did reach the USA.
Back then, many people were talking about how Japan is 10 years in the future. Around 2017, I saw a photo of Shibuya Crossing, and knew that was in the pictures of Japan being 10 years in the future.
I heard about people traveling there on business, but I do not remember much of what they said.
Since I was much younger, I did not hear the story of the used panty vending machine. That story got a lot further west than the fact that they got banned.
My desire to visit as a tourist happenned in 1989. I would say reason #1 was that the Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo arrived. Turbo power sounded like magic to 80s kids. When I heard of twin turbo power, it sounded like ultra magic.
Ah, but have you saved your own track layout to cassette? (I wish)
Well, I think all you need to do is to have a copy of Excitebike, plugged into a Famicom and to have the Family Basic Keyboard plugged into the expansion port. Then you have a cassette recorder plugged into the keyboard and then you record it to audio tape. I want to do this.
@@johnathanstevens8436 I thought the FDS was built for this purpose. I suppose that came later, as Metroid and Zelda I arrived later. Metroid had a save menu to FDS instead of a password. Zelda I had it, whereas the USA got battery backed memory.
I have heard of the FDS bot making it to the USA because better carts became more affordable. Battery backed saves became less expensive, and expanded carts with mappers became less expensive.
8 pins for protection, but if you lift a certain pin then it disables the security and plays every game.
oh I disabled the lock out chips in both my NES systems! ua-cam.com/video/S30-H5izhDE/v-deo.htmlsi=jqs6AtaZgCHhuGmr&t=416
What gets me is all these extra pins and yet they don't have enough for expanded audio from on cart chips like the Konami and Sunsoft sound chips. OH NINTENDO!!!
Would it be possible for modern game develop enthusiasts to take a copy of an ExciteBike rom and reprogram it to save to SRam, which on a modern emulator would just save it as a file?
NES ROM Hackers have already done that!
"Description:
This patch finally adds SAVE/LOAD functionality to the old classic Excitebike! No need for a tape-recorder now, it saves your designed track to SRAM instead! (”Best time” is not saved at the moment).
This also patches the ROM to the MMC1 Mapper also."
www.romhacking.net/hacks/2428/
i thought this might be about the $10,000 in 1980's drug money that was found inside an excitebike cart. at least i think it was excitebike. havent seen the vid in years
It's probably more rare to find an official 60-pin adapter in an NES cart than to find drug tainted money in the 1980s hhahaha
It was 5k in a copy of NES Golf.
I know because I’m the guy who found 2oz of fent inside NES Golf… and another 2oz inside a PAL copy of Roller Games with a broken PAL Isolated Warrior PCB inside.
@@8bitjoystick…or actual drugs.
@@emmettturner9452 if you had not given me 3 seperate occasions where this happened to you i would be more inclined to believe you unless you had some kind of proof
I wonder if you're going to talk about the tape cassette add-on that allowed you to record your own tracks?
Keeping my fingers crossed your not going to talk Famicom converters in the black box games
Glad you brought up the cassette tape
I just bought a cassette deck with a recording option and a line in. Apparently all I need now is a famicom basic keyboard.
All copies of Stack Up has them.
@@beatlefreak909 That's what I've heard. That's awesome.
That's the HUDSON icon!?
Yup, the chinese hardware hackers in the 80s did not really give a rip about international trademark law. Hudson did NOT make the Honey Bee adapter.. however they DID make Famicom Basic for Nintendo.
I found one of those adapters in a Hogan's Alley
I freaking love Hogan's Alley. In a way. It's weird to see just how much of a commercial failure the famicom gun was in Japan and contrast that with just how incredibly popular the zapper was in the US. Did you know that Gumshoe never got a Japanese release? It was a Nintendo made light gun game that was made exclusively for the Western market. The Nintendo light gun games are a perfect reason to keep a CRT TV around so you can play it the way that it was intended.
Honey Bee logo looks suspiciously like Hudson Soft
Wait wait wait! So what you're saying is bootleg international cartridge adapters made by companies out of Hong Kong in the early 1990s don't give a rip about international trademark law?
I am shocked.
Collectors have robbed many cartridges already of these.
I had owned several 5 screw variants, _not one_ had cartridge adapter inside.
Well, do you think that they took the adapter out and put in a regular board in them? Or they just kept the carts themselves, but granted these are really rare and I've never actually seen them in person until now. CURSE YOU COLLECTORS!!!!
@@8bitjoystick There may have been some removed, however, I don't really see any reason for them to separate the adapter from the shell only to swap in a regular game. The two are more valuable together than separated.
It could also be that there were a bunch of 5 screw cases with regular carts as their production capacity for the NA version caught up with demand and they simply started using those until they ran out of the easier to close 5 screw ones.
that doesnt make sense lol
That's not how that works
@@SmallSpoonBrigade well, it used to be there were not a lot of ways to play FC games in the US short of actually bringing over a Famicom so adapters like these were in demand to do so.
I thought Excite Bike was a FDS game. Never knew there was a Japanese cart.
So there was Vs. Excitebike for FDS. But Excitebike was released on cartridge and was quite popular.
Some FDS games got a cartridge rerelease later. Zelda I and II got Famicom carts I think in the 1990s.
@@skylinefever Zelda 1 got a famicom cart but not Zelda 2 in Japan. The famicom cartridge release of Castlevania was very late in the systems lifespan and is crazy expensive because there's not a lot of copies made
@@tobalaz My bad, I guess I did miss certain points. I was certain it happenned in the early 1990s, as Nintendo made many NES Zelda I and Zelda II carts. One feature of them is that those carts are plain grey instead of gold.
I took some interest in the very late and very expensive games Justbreed and Lagrange point. Justbreed has a battle system similar to Shining Force I and II. However I think in many ways it is better. The MMC5 mapper made the game enormous and have some extra sound channels. Lagrange Point was a turn based space RPG. It got a VRC7 chip which was probably the most powerful add on audio chip the Famicom ever had.
I downloaded the Zelda FDS ROM and late Famicom ROM rerelease. The rerelease had to remove the FDS audio. It received the same audio as the NES cart.
There is a GUARANTEED WAY to get one EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Don't go for excitebke, Don't even go for Gyromite as some reccommend
Go for STACK-UP!!
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of all North American STACK-UP Cartridges have the converter on the inside.
But, you would pay more because Stack-up is rarer than other Black box titles (with maybe the exception of Donkey Kong Jr Math.)
Well I enjoy the lotto jackpot aspect of looking for adapters i actually own three famicom to NES adapters and probably don't need one of my own but I might keep looking.
All 5 screw carts have this.
That is not so. Actually in my video. I show a five screw cart that doesn't have it.
Why are you so focused on Excitebike?
It’s hardly the one most associated with the adapter, especially since it wasn’t bundled with the NES Deluxe Set back when Nintendo was resorting to these. You definitely picked the wrong game to hunt for it in!
I have several games with the adapter including Duck Hunt, Gyromite (the one most know), Pinball, Stack-Up (every copy has it), Hogan’s Alley, and Excitebike. Wrecking Crew can also have it but I don’t think my copy does.
Well, the game that I actually opened up was a five-pin copy of Gyromite.
I like Excitebike. I also definitely respect its influence on Super Mario Bros. I think it's interesting when game designers and developers get more powerful hardware and they start making games that are only possible in that generation of hardware. Excitebike is one of those and then once they figured out the hardware scrolling of excitebike it led to Super Mario Bros. You have to wonder what would have happened if they made a version of Super Mario Bros. that took advantage of the famicom data recorder and allowed you to design your own levels. We could have had Super Mario Maker back in 1986
@@8bitjoystick Yeah, 5-screw Gyromite is where most come from since it was bundled with the console back then forcing many to buy it whether they wanted to or not. Deluxe Set was the only set when the adapters were being used. That makes it particularly common but it’s also particularly cheap since ROB the Robot and all the gyros are a required accessory and very few survived intact/complete… making the majority of Gyromite carts useless.
Of course, you might have to look through dozens of 5-screw copies to find one with an adapter these days but that’s after decades of people taking them out of circulation. Everyone knows to check Gyromite! :)
Think your cat is hungry?
More specifically he wanted attention. He is fed three times a day, he gets a can of wet food in the morning and at night in the afternoon he gets dry cat food from a dispenser. He also gets fat trained every time I take him to the vet. But he gets increasingly vocal every time that I set up my equipment to record. In many of my videos I have music and you don't hear him talk. But now I am only having music in part of the video and as a result you get to hear him make a noise quite frequently. I stopped editing him out a while ago
@@8bitjoystick well just don't let him manipulate you.
Uhm... no... the Honey Bee was not well regarded back in the day when I was working with this stuff. It was unreliable at defeating the 10NES protection and if you opened it up, they used a few basic discreet components in an effort to try and overload the lockout mechanism.
Back in the day I've only heard of the Honey Bee but I never actually saw one in person. The 10NES chips on both of my NES consoles are disabled. ua-cam.com/video/yVJA8gXqqAU/v-deo.htmlsi=huBIccDYKN1uDDzF&t=975
@@8bitjoystick They were absolute garbage and a popular item at FuncoLand back in the mail order days. Sure they'd make your Famicom game fit in your NES, but they were about 50/50 when it came to defeating the lockout chip.
There are multiple variants of the Honeybee adapter. Some have the stunner circuit, some have a salvaged CIC, and some have a clone CIC.