8:57 for an example of The Trooper sound. Set to 6th above and played the lower part in minor scale (I think) most of the fun is playing around with this thing.
Thanks for this! I was already ready to give up on the idea of getting this pedal, since most of the demos sounded so fake.. But yours sounded great. Good idea to put the distortion before the harmonizer. I don’t know why, but it seems to make it really sound like two guitars. Makes no sense to me, but if it works, then it works.
It's like sticking two guitars through the same amp. Would just sound messy. What your audience hear.. that's what you want a copy of. You don't want a copy of a clean then shove BOTH through the same distortion ..just gets messy. Use this live in the band for little flourishes (only downside is remembering to switch the key between songs!😂)
@@mickeymoran1850 thanks, I read another comment you made below, where you explain this in more detail. It makes more sense now. I’ll experiment with the harmonizer in AmpliTube and see if this fixes it as well. I’m in the process of starting a band, and I wouldn’t like to share a stage with another guitarist, but I really like those Maiden/Lizzy type guitar duels. I would rather find a pedal instead of another guitar player :)
Yeah amplitube is what I use for recording too! MesaTrans with the marshal jmp! Great tone for what we do! That harmoniser never quite tracked as fast for me...just missed a few bits... plus you can't take it live and this is only £95 when I got it. Have fun if you decide to get it. I know you will!
@@mickeymoran1850 thanks, I’m looking forward to trying one. I hope I understood your explanation well enough. Took screenshots in case I need to read it 20 times :)
Never had this problem - Depends how you have you effects loop set up I guess - I've never noticed a volume loss in several scenarios i've used this in loops. May i ask what your chain is?
Ok I just solve the damn issue, it was a little switch in my fx loop (the amp is Laney Vh100r) . This sh*t almost drove me mad Thanks for the answer mate.
@@federicoguarienti Ahhh Yeah the Loop switch is VERY handy for subtle delay and reverb and things! - It's interesting that most of the comments are from NEW users to this pedal! Enjoy making THICC sounds :D
@@kisskisskill404 yeah this pedal is outstanding, I bought it cause with my band we want classic heavymetal harmonized guitars without a second guitar player
Nice video. Thanks. Mine has a strange noise while running in mono mode and mix is at 12. I think mine is defected. Yours have a very clean harmonized sound.
Hello and thanks for your response. I use stomp boxes and for amps I use THU in my DAW. So basically there is not any physical amp in my chain. I noticed that this pedal does not work properly with distorted sound in mono mode. In stereo it shifts much better and clearer. Interestingly I used it in Stereo and then flattened it in mono in my DAW and the result was way more acceptable. So I think it is possible to get good sounds out if it but it is not easy and right out of the box. I just bought this pedal. I will buy also a ps6 harmonist today and will compare which one works for me and will return back one of them. I will keep you posted about the results. Anyways, thanks for your video. You are an amazing player. Hats off. 👍👍👍
@@cyruss2946 Thanks so much for saying, that's too kind. Running this thing mono into distortion is always going to sound bad. It's like pushing two guitars through one amp and sound the same way one guitar would playing two notes at once. You'll have the same issues with the Boss unit running before the distortion on the amp because it's doing the same thing. Stereo works because only one line is going into one ampsim for each L and R side?. Stick a Stomp box distortion before this pedal in your chain and you'll notice the difference immediately! I use a Marshall rack amp live and this thing HAS to go in the effects loop (basically after the guitar signal distorts) or it sounds the same as what you're hearing. This is what a lot of other Demo's on this I found online don't really explain and think it doesn't do it's job. Short answer - Playing this INTO a distorted amp will sound kinda naff. stick it in the effects loop or have a good distortion BEFORE it to get the best out of it.
That's the only frustrating part. You DO have to set the key manually. I know there are vocal harmony pedals out there that can pick up guitar chords and automatically add the right harmonies for a voice but it takes a second. the latency would be awkward for guitar I guess. I usually write the key/scale on a set list next to each song and go from there. I'd LOVE a version of this that would detect chords from a 2nd guitar but still for less than a hundred quid (and you heard the results with playing pretty fast) I can't grumble. thanks for checking out our page!
Hi Topolino ! I'm researching what Dave Murray was using on the x X Factor album. I like this harmonized sound in the song fortunes of war, listen to min 5:26 to min 5:38 what was Dave using? did you use effects or is it a double track work with reverb?
Not directly but I watched a tonne of stuff on the PS6 (Next few years that'll mean something else!) and I like how this tracks better. The tone of the "Copy" or Harmony was a bit too false for my liking.
@@kisskisskill404 I think I have the same impression with ps6 about tracking and sounding fake. This one from Tc seems much better but I still have some doubts...until now are you totally satisfied with it?
@@lovecraftmusic8717 Totally! - It's on my live rig and it's amazing to kick on for those cheeky little additions to Solos - The audience reaction when another guitar screaches in out of no where never gets old! I'll try and get a video of it being used live soon!
@@kisskisskill404 thank you very much for you're feedback! Last thing: can it also do fixed pitch shifting (like a 3rd or 4th without following any key)?
Yes you can. Like mentioned in the video, you might not get the best results if you're recording into an amp sim like GuitarRig or Amplitube or whatever plug in is in your DAW (mixing software). I have a distortion pedal BEFORE the harmoniser. Its better to harmonise distortion than distort harmonies.
Thanks for posting! If you have a minute, we posted a cover of Van Halen. As fellow music lovers, we'd love if you'd take a listen. It's on our channel. Don't be too tough on us :)
I guess the only thing that stops me from buying this is, if I plug into the pedal to go into my interface and then into my DAW and use a plug-in like Neural DSP for my amp, this is not the optimal way to use this. This pedal need to be behind a distortion pedal. I guess I could boost the plug-in with a pedal but that sort of defeats the idea of using a high gain plug-in
That's a really good point! I guess I never thought of that because if it comes to recording I'd just record the harmony as an overdub. It wouldn't be as clinical as using the pedal. Taking your point Wayne I guess this is more of a Live pedal than a recording one. For recording theres a plugin called pitchproof for vocals that creates harmonies...its free so that might work with guitar signals POST gain. Thanks for checking out the video and all the best with your projects :)
Are you running it INTO a distorted amp/amp sim? It will that way.. it needs to be AFTER distortion if using pedals or have it though the effects loop of your amp. If you're going through an amp sim on your DAW then.... just record the parts separately... once with the pedal trend trend 100% dry and again with the pedal turned 100% wet maybe?
@@kisskisskill404 so if you're using built in amp distortion settings and this is the only pedal you're using you're good to go? and if I wanted to use wah with it I would have to connect it Amp-Wah-Harmonizer-Guitar right? Just making sure before I drop $200 lol
@@dcaz867 you can get SOME kinda okay sound out of this going into the front of the amp but it's not going to sound crisp and clean like the demo here. Distortion pedal BEFORE this is your best bet. For using amps distortion it really needs to be in the loop but at the end of the day it's your call as it's your rig/money/sound and i wish you all the best :)
8:57 for an example of The Trooper sound. Set to 6th above and played the lower part in minor scale (I think) most of the fun is playing around with this thing.
Thanks for this! I was already ready to give up on the idea of getting this pedal, since most of the demos sounded so fake.. But yours sounded great. Good idea to put the distortion before the harmonizer. I don’t know why, but it seems to make it really sound like two guitars. Makes no sense to me, but if it works, then it works.
It's like sticking two guitars through the same amp. Would just sound messy. What your audience hear.. that's what you want a copy of. You don't want a copy of a clean then shove BOTH through the same distortion ..just gets messy.
Use this live in the band for little flourishes (only downside is remembering to switch the key between songs!😂)
@@mickeymoran1850 thanks, I read another comment you made below, where you explain this in more detail. It makes more sense now. I’ll experiment with the harmonizer in AmpliTube and see if this fixes it as well. I’m in the process of starting a band, and I wouldn’t like to share a stage with another guitarist, but I really like those Maiden/Lizzy type guitar duels. I would rather find a pedal instead of another guitar player :)
Yeah amplitube is what I use for recording too! MesaTrans with the marshal jmp! Great tone for what we do! That harmoniser never quite tracked as fast for me...just missed a few bits... plus you can't take it live and this is only £95 when I got it. Have fun if you decide to get it. I know you will!
@@mickeymoran1850 thanks, I’m looking forward to trying one. I hope I understood your explanation well enough. Took screenshots in case I need to read it 20 times :)
Please try to play the solo harmonies at the end of Hotel California and let me know if you got it to work...!!
Your video cracks me up. Like I'm watching a Spinal Tap sequel.
Ha! Thanks! Which has actually recently been reported as "in the works" Very excited!
It sounds amazing in the fx loop, but when the pedal is on, the volume decreases
Never had this problem - Depends how you have you effects loop set up I guess - I've never noticed a volume loss in several scenarios i've used this in loops. May i ask what your chain is?
Ok I just solve the damn issue, it was a little switch in my fx loop (the amp is Laney Vh100r) . This sh*t almost drove me mad
Thanks for the answer mate.
@@federicoguarienti Ahhh Yeah the Loop switch is VERY handy for subtle delay and reverb and things! - It's interesting that most of the comments are from NEW users to this pedal! Enjoy making THICC sounds :D
@@kisskisskill404 yeah this pedal is outstanding, I bought it cause with my band we want classic heavymetal harmonized guitars without a second guitar player
Nice video. Thanks. Mine has a strange noise while running in mono mode and mix is at 12. I think mine is defected. Yours have a very clean harmonized sound.
Is it running into a distorted amp or before your distortion pedal?
And thank you :)
Hello and thanks for your response. I use stomp boxes and for amps I use THU in my DAW. So basically there is not any physical amp in my chain. I noticed that this pedal does not work properly with distorted sound in mono mode. In stereo it shifts much better and clearer. Interestingly I used it in Stereo and then flattened it in mono in my DAW and the result was way more acceptable. So I think it is possible to get good sounds out if it but it is not easy and right out of the box. I just bought this pedal. I will buy also a ps6 harmonist today and will compare which one works for me and will return back one of them. I will keep you posted about the results. Anyways, thanks for your video. You are an amazing player. Hats off. 👍👍👍
@@cyruss2946 Thanks so much for saying, that's too kind. Running this thing mono into distortion is always going to sound bad. It's like pushing two guitars through one amp and sound the same way one guitar would playing two notes at once. You'll have the same issues with the Boss unit running before the distortion on the amp because it's doing the same thing. Stereo works because only one line is going into one ampsim for each L and R side?. Stick a Stomp box distortion before this pedal in your chain and you'll notice the difference immediately!
I use a Marshall rack amp live and this thing HAS to go in the effects loop (basically after the guitar signal distorts) or it sounds the same as what you're hearing. This is what a lot of other Demo's on this I found online don't really explain and think it doesn't do it's job.
Short answer - Playing this INTO a distorted amp will sound kinda naff. stick it in the effects loop or have a good distortion BEFORE it to get the best out of it.
I have octave harmonies in my songs. In every song I have to set key and scale or it does the right harmonies automatically?
That's the only frustrating part. You DO have to set the key manually. I know there are vocal harmony pedals out there that can pick up guitar chords and automatically add the right harmonies for a voice but it takes a second. the latency would be awkward for guitar I guess.
I usually write the key/scale on a set list next to each song and go from there. I'd LOVE a version of this that would detect chords from a 2nd guitar but still for less than a hundred quid (and you heard the results with playing pretty fast) I can't grumble. thanks for checking out our page!
Omg this pedal is a life saver!!
Its loads of fun!
Hi Topolino !
I'm researching what Dave Murray was using on the x X Factor album. I like this harmonized sound in the song fortunes of war, listen to min 5:26 to min 5:38 what was Dave using? did you use effects or is it a double track work with reverb?
Iron Maiden always harmonize in person
They has 3 guitar players so why a pedal 🧚🏼♂️
Have you tried or compared it to the Boss ps6?
Not directly but I watched a tonne of stuff on the PS6 (Next few years that'll mean something else!) and I like how this tracks better. The tone of the "Copy" or Harmony was a bit too false for my liking.
@@kisskisskill404 I think I have the same impression with ps6 about tracking and sounding fake. This one from Tc seems much better but I still have some doubts...until now are you totally satisfied with it?
@@lovecraftmusic8717 Totally! - It's on my live rig and it's amazing to kick on for those cheeky little additions to Solos - The audience reaction when another guitar screaches in out of no where never gets old! I'll try and get a video of it being used live soon!
@@kisskisskill404 thank you very much for you're feedback! Last thing: can it also do fixed pitch shifting (like a 3rd or 4th without following any key)?
@@lovecraftmusic8717 It can indeed - Use the editor to set those peramiters Use a custom chromatic scale and set them that way.
Awesome, glad you like it!
Really do. It's perfect for adding additional little layers and cool stand out bits to live shows!
Hi. What distortion pedal are you using? Thanks .
For this it was a Fender Pugelist Distortion INFRONT of the Quintessence. :)
more please!!!!!
That's awesome. I'm in a band and I'm the only guitarist and singer. I need this pedal asap!!! lmao
Could I use this when recording using my audio interface?
Yes you can. Like mentioned in the video, you might not get the best results if you're recording into an amp sim like GuitarRig or Amplitube or whatever plug in is in your DAW (mixing software). I have a distortion pedal BEFORE the harmoniser. Its better to harmonise distortion than distort harmonies.
Thanks for posting! If you have a minute, we posted a cover of Van Halen. As fellow music lovers, we'd love if you'd take a listen. It's on our channel. Don't be too tough on us :)
Thank you!!! for not playing a clean tone, fucking hate it when the do it 🤣
I guess the only thing that stops me from buying this is, if I plug into the pedal to go into my interface and then into my DAW and use a plug-in like Neural DSP for my amp, this is not the optimal way to use this. This pedal need to be behind a distortion pedal. I guess I could boost the plug-in with a pedal but that sort of defeats the idea of using a high gain plug-in
That's a really good point! I guess I never thought of that because if it comes to recording I'd just record the harmony as an overdub. It wouldn't be as clinical as using the pedal. Taking your point Wayne I guess this is more of a Live pedal than a recording one. For recording theres a plugin called pitchproof for vocals that creates harmonies...its free so that might work with guitar signals POST gain.
Thanks for checking out the video and all the best with your projects :)
i think something is wrong with my pedal. it sounds like trash LOL
Are you running it INTO a distorted amp/amp sim? It will that way.. it needs to be AFTER distortion if using pedals or have it though the effects loop of your amp. If you're going through an amp sim on your DAW then.... just record the parts separately... once with the pedal trend trend 100% dry and again with the pedal turned 100% wet maybe?
@@kisskisskill404 so if you're using built in amp distortion settings and this is the only pedal you're using you're good to go? and if I wanted to use wah with it I would have to connect it Amp-Wah-Harmonizer-Guitar right? Just making sure before I drop $200 lol
@@dcaz867 Does your amp have an FX loop or are you wanting to user this through a DAW like Reaper/Logic etc?
@@kisskisskill404 currently the only amp I have with me is a Line 6 Spider IV 15 watt and I believe it does not have a loop.
@@dcaz867 you can get SOME kinda okay sound out of this going into the front of the amp but it's not going to sound crisp and clean like the demo here. Distortion pedal BEFORE this is your best bet. For using amps distortion it really needs to be in the loop but at the end of the day it's your call as it's your rig/money/sound and i wish you all the best :)