@NE_8A_DabJr it’s almost impossible to hit someone with in the higher ranks because it’s so slow if they made it 20 frames start up instead of 24 and kept it unsafe it would be fine
The only thing good from this patch is ice clone lasts longer and it's doesn't costs meter to slide them into it. Everything else is either completely useless or a nerfs pretending to be a buff. He's in desperate need for Iceball to be a meterless combo tool and faster clone recovery. Without those 2 things the buffs don't work.
You can use the 1 bar 3 clone version and it still works you just have to press block after square and just tap block don’t hold Also you can hold x when you ex slide and get a 140 damage armor
@@theonlyblackboyinthiscall2703 only with one or two kameos and low damage 😂 look,the 3 ice clones are cool I'll admit..but that ice clone in the corner nerf really hurt this character
@@theonlyblackboyinthiscall2703 no it aint we cant set up clone no more cause of the nerfed cooldown he can't even combo off of his ONLY MID IN THE CORNER sub does so well in the corner and they took it away the nerfs VERY HEAVILY outweigh the buffs and its not even close
It's over Bossman😔.. they're taking all of his viable moves and replacing them with worthless BS! Nerfing a bottom tier character is just nasty work..RIP grandmaster
I'm ready to see some grandmaster combos next video! A new string would be nice but at the very least maybe we'll find some routes that have better damage scaling with the new clones... much love to all you Sub Zero players
Sub-Zero is incapable of getting something good without somehow getting worse, why would they nerf the clone in the corner? What the fuck was the point of giving Sub players the option to do that when they buffed Sub-Zero if they're just going to take it away!?!? All this "buff" did is give Sub-Zero longer lasting, flashier combo's so that his kameo can recover more, making him even MORE dependent on his kameo to carry him instead of being able to viable by his own abilities. Pathetic buff. 😓
I really think this character is dead. I mean he is good against some characters like smoke or even cage but he is too weak for the others. I dont understand why keep a move if the move is with no use. The projectile is beyond crap. Who the hell is gonna use 2 bars to get 35%? So another dead move. Every string can be armor. Its fun to play him but its not fair most of the time.
Damn bro! YOU ALREADY COOKIN 😭🙏 but seriously two meters is ridiculous. Especially when your damage is shit. Just let sub cook NRS 😔 these shadow nerfs are ass man. Always two steps forward and three steps back when it comes to sub
You can do the 3 ice klone using one bar btw. Delay the input on your block button after inputting db1 (like you’re doing an mk11 meter burn) and hold it. You can no 3 b2s in the corner. Then stand 4 into this one bar version and it connects.
@@mrbigbossman387right like all he needs is a decent projectile and maybe tweak the damn damage TWO BARS DOES??? 😅 I feel like zoning completely kills Subs game plan but I’m not a pro so
Sub Zero has 50 percents with Cyrax cameo and also His meterless are still there, they explained it in Kombat Cast. If you hold your directional button which is hold 4 on ground ice you still get your meterless combos. Cyrax does best with sub Zero cause of the Zoning he has. Also his overhead is meant to condition not to rush down
@@spencergamer5201 no one is disputing the use of the overhead, it was shown primarily as its an overhead low setup to catch a low block. Have not seen cyrax use a 50% yet so I will look at that soon and yes I'm fully aware of holding the directional button. However overall ice clone range has still been nerfed affecting his corner setups and aerial conversions. Update: Can't find anyone playing him with cyrax since the patch and having playing cyrax myself, it's not a bad kameo for him but it is far from his best option for utility.
@@roostir666 it's a fair opinion and of course the slide can have it's moments (when it's not blocked and you die for your sins) the clones range in general has been nerfed which also affects a lot of the aerial conversions and it's much more forgiving to your opposition. But I'll still main him 👍
diablos bro apesar de los nerfs sigues siendo muy bueno con sub zero siendo el personaje jugablemente una caca...deberias tener muchos mas seguidores tanto como sikander555 creo que hasta lo podrias vencer ,seria un combate para recordarlo. no haces stream tambien jugando con sub zero?
I really appreciate that, thank you. I would love to play sokander but he Hayes mirror matches 😂 I plan on streaming when I've got more of an audience, I'm still a very small channel right now
@mrbigbossman387 no deberías esperar a ser un canal grande📺 primero para empezar. Empezando lo harás grande💪seré el primer espectador cuando lo hagas. Así como yo muchos seguidores de sikander😁vendrían a verte. Eres más talentoso con sub zero que el. Por eso te ánimo a hacerlo🙏.saludos y ten buen día🌄
I might take your advice on that and try soon then, I suppose the worst that can happen is it doesn't get viewed 😂 Thank you for your advice and support, have a great day mate 👍
@@screenc4p I've since learnt that the overall range of ice clone has been nerfed which also affects a lot of his air conversions really badly. They want us at bottom tier.
The nerfs heavily outweighs the so called buffs
Please NRS just buff the blue bastards overhead
EXACTLY JUST SPEED THAT BITCH UP
Why and how??
@NE_8A_DabJr it’s almost impossible to hit someone with in the higher ranks because it’s so slow if they made it 20 frames start up instead of 24 and kept it unsafe it would be fine
@@NE_8A_DabJr either that or just make it safe on block like rains overhead
@@nixon2007 if they leave it the same way it is but make it to where he can cancel it into a throw that should do the magic fosho
They will never truly buff Sub-Zero until the very last patch.
understandable
He needs less of a buff and more incentive to mix up his strat. Sub is strong he’s just boring
I was thinking the same thing.
Damn bro you wasted no time finding out the nerfs. Grandmaster knowledge!
he’s got the most creative powers in the roster yet his strings are so limited and simple
@@1k.nate_ could not have said it better myself
The only thing good from this patch is ice clone lasts longer and it's doesn't costs meter to slide them into it. Everything else is either completely useless or a nerfs pretending to be a buff. He's in desperate need for Iceball to be a meterless combo tool and faster clone recovery. Without those 2 things the buffs don't work.
You can use the 1 bar 3 clone version and it still works you just have to press block after square and just tap block don’t hold
Also you can hold x when you ex slide and get a 140 damage armor
the nerfed him and passed it on like they buffed him actually pathetic someone at NRS hates subzero
@@renmoon9498 it's MULTIPLE people and pro players smh...
That's actually a buff it's not the one we wanted butt this does make him better
@@theonlyblackboyinthiscall2703 only with one or two kameos and low damage 😂 look,the 3 ice clones are cool I'll admit..but that ice clone in the corner nerf really hurt this character
@@theonlyblackboyinthiscall2703 no it aint we cant set up clone no more cause of the nerfed cooldown he can't even combo off of his ONLY MID IN THE CORNER sub does so well in the corner and they took it away the nerfs VERY HEAVILY outweigh the buffs and its not even close
Ita disgusting, the more I play it the more it annoys me how much worse clone is
It's over Bossman😔.. they're taking all of his viable moves and replacing them with worthless BS! Nerfing a bottom tier character is just nasty work..RIP grandmaster
Hey man! Long time no see! How are ya? missed your videos man cheers
@@name5227 Welcome back mate, hope you're doing well. It's great to see you here again! 👍
I'm ready to see some grandmaster combos next video! A new string would be nice but at the very least maybe we'll find some routes that have better damage scaling with the new clones... much love to all you Sub Zero players
Much respect mate, thank you for the comment!
I just want the ice ball to be able to combo😢
Like it always should, it needs speeding up asap!
Sub-Zero is incapable of getting something good without somehow getting worse, why would they nerf the clone in the corner? What the fuck was the point of giving Sub players the option to do that when they buffed Sub-Zero if they're just going to take it away!?!?
All this "buff" did is give Sub-Zero longer lasting, flashier combo's so that his kameo can recover more, making him even MORE dependent on his kameo to carry him instead of being able to viable by his own abilities. Pathetic buff. 😓
@@saintmangosteen yeah it's awful, it's made the clone have less reach and have a longer cool down 🤮
NRS want us to suffer
At this Point Sub-Zero is the character that just "Screw You, I'm just here for style points" on your matches.
Style points?😢 down poke ice clone scores style points? The problem isn’t the patch 😂
Love the mythologies music more then the buffs
I’ve been using sub zero mavado after the update and it’s been going crazy. The slide allows mavado to combo of anything
@@mrfigmor4447 good when it lands but it will get blocked a lot at eldergod which is immediate death
I really think this character is dead. I mean he is good against some characters like smoke or even cage but he is too weak for the others. I dont understand why keep a move if the move is with no use. The projectile is beyond crap. Who the hell is gonna use 2 bars to get 35%? So another dead move. Every string can be armor. Its fun to play him but its not fair most of the time.
This is why I subscribed. True master with facts
I appreciate you mate, thank you!
Is this a f... joke NRS? Seems like they are trolling us with these Sub-Zero "buffs". Again they added a useless move
Damn bro! YOU ALREADY COOKIN 😭🙏 but seriously two meters is ridiculous. Especially when your damage is shit. Just let sub cook NRS 😔 these shadow nerfs are ass man. Always two steps forward and three steps back when it comes to sub
NRS just hate sub zero players, they give us an inch and they take a mile
You can do the 3 ice klone using one bar btw. Delay the input on your block button after inputting db1 (like you’re doing an mk11 meter burn) and hold it. You can no 3 b2s in the corner. Then stand 4 into this one bar version and it connects.
Tell em mrbigbossman
I really want his aerial ice axe back 😅
This is a great idea!
@@mrbigbossman387right like all he needs is a decent projectile and maybe tweak the damn damage TWO BARS DOES??? 😅 I feel like zoning completely kills Subs game plan but I’m not a pro so
I hate the new slide... if anyone likes it thats fine, i just like not having to worry about holding a damn button and accidentally not doing that
nice video, but i think the music is a little too loud. Otherwise thank you!
That's a fair criticism mate, thank you for the comment!
Sub Zero has 50 percents with Cyrax cameo and also His meterless are still there, they explained it in Kombat Cast. If you hold your directional button which is hold 4 on ground ice you still get your meterless combos. Cyrax does best with sub Zero cause of the Zoning he has. Also his overhead is meant to condition not to rush down
@@spencergamer5201 no one is disputing the use of the overhead, it was shown primarily as its an overhead low setup to catch a low block. Have not seen cyrax use a 50% yet so I will look at that soon and yes I'm fully aware of holding the directional button. However overall ice clone range has still been nerfed affecting his corner setups and aerial conversions.
Update: Can't find anyone playing him with cyrax since the patch and having playing cyrax myself, it's not a bad kameo for him but it is far from his best option for utility.
@@mrbigbossman387fair enough You should u use cyrax with him Trust that’s my main team plus he gets free meter drain Zoning
Boon we know you love Scorpion but cmon....cant do Bi Han this dirty...
You can do the 3 clones with 1 bar. Ex it when the clone appears, and it will make 2 more clones and b2 into 4 in the corner will work then .
Oh no.. you got him nerfed 💀
Am i tripping back forward x slide has changed and cant get combos out 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
It sounds complicated. Hopefully, it feels better in practice.
@@ericrodriguez138 it doesn't! Feels weird actually 😂
Sadly it feels strange at best but we'll have to get used to it
U don’t have to use 2 meters just tap rt and you’ll use 1
No buffs all to make combos visually pleasing, still not enough
Dude one setup is messed up, but everything else about it is way better… imo of course
@@roostir666 it's a fair opinion and of course the slide can have it's moments (when it's not blocked and you die for your sins) the clones range in general has been nerfed which also affects a lot of the aerial conversions and it's much more forgiving to your opposition. But I'll still main him 👍
diablos bro apesar de los nerfs sigues siendo muy bueno con sub zero siendo el personaje jugablemente una caca...deberias tener muchos mas seguidores tanto como sikander555 creo que hasta lo podrias vencer ,seria un combate para recordarlo. no haces stream tambien jugando con sub zero?
I really appreciate that, thank you. I would love to play sokander but he Hayes mirror matches 😂 I plan on streaming when I've got more of an audience, I'm still a very small channel right now
@mrbigbossman387 no deberías esperar a ser un canal grande📺 primero para empezar. Empezando lo harás grande💪seré el primer espectador cuando lo hagas. Así como yo muchos seguidores de sikander😁vendrían a verte. Eres más talentoso con sub zero que el. Por eso te ánimo a hacerlo🙏.saludos y ten buen día🌄
I might take your advice on that and try soon then, I suppose the worst that can happen is it doesn't get viewed 😂 Thank you for your advice and support, have a great day mate 👍
This is getting annoying asf. They really be trolling us with sub-zero
@@screenc4p I've since learnt that the overall range of ice clone has been nerfed which also affects a lot of his air conversions really badly. They want us at bottom tier.
Lrs ruining sub0 more
WHY DO WE KEEP ON GETTING HOED !?
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