But Cher saying her maid is Mexican is meant to be a comment on her ignorance. Sure, its an outdated joke, but it's on her. Also, we're meant to dislike Elton because he's a pushy creep who is only nice until she turns him down. The entire point is that Cher is, well, clueless about his true nature, as she is about everything else. Way to skim the surface...
I am Hispanic and get my nationality mistaken all the freaking time... even by other Latinos.... and it’s set in Los Ángeles which is full of Mexicans...
@@danidejaneiro8378 Thank you! it is why it is funny, a way to bring up the issue and deal with it in micro circles ,,, it is better than blame and censorship
Melina, of course not all the jokes back then were lighthearted or humourous, but I also wasn't thinking all the way back to the 20s haha. What I mean is that nowadays people find ways to get offended at every little thing, I think you know what I mean. But I also understand where you're coming from.
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@Melina Covi Omfg are you seriously comparing the two? Back then woman and men did not have the same rights, but guess what? Now they do! That was a mistake of the past and we as human being have now learned from it and are ready to move on. Now in order for us to learn from mistakes there must be one in the first place. Back then there clearly was a mistake ;people were not treated equally by law. It was injustice. But not they are.(At least in the majority of the world). That was a thing that could be counted as a major problem that effected everyone, the things people complain about now, when it comes to this movie, are not.
What this video totally misses is that Clueless is a satire- also, Elton was portrayed in a bad light in this movie, and Cher calls him out for it. You were supposed to hate Elton for what he did, not condone it-I think that makes this movie a bit ahead of its time in this regard.
mackenzie pfeifer exactly what I was going to say. The movie was purposely stereotypical. The stereotypical female, always worrying about her weight and her food intake. They targeted these problems by exposing how ridiculous they are. Thus, this made the movie funny!
Exactly! Plus its based on Jane Austen's novel 'Emma' in which Mr. Elton is too forward with Emma in the carriage home from a ball, making her confused and uncomfortable - they modernised his actions very effectively while staying true to the story
Agreed! This was ahead of it's time with "no means no." Elton basically accuses her of "leading him on" and Cher's response is aptly, "As if!" Elton is a douche and we see it that way.
It was a movie about being superficial/stereotypes and how the main character evolved. Dion wasn't a meek gf that never stood up for herself, they didn't fat shame Ty for not being a stick, dude was gay and apparently everyone but Cher knew it yet they didn't treat him any differently. Saw this with friends for my 13th birthday and the only weird thing we took away from it was that she ends up with her ex-stepbrother .
Toxic? They are in High School. Trust me, there are worse relationships. Plus, this is comedy. Stereotypes? Again, this is how people view them in High School. Aaaand again, a 90s comedy. Pointing out there ethnicity? But but they're Iranian ... the maid is to show how clueless the rich can be about other ethnicities. Sensitivity Training? Yeah Elton is an a**, but he stopped eventually when he got the sign. Eating disorder? I'm sorry but 99% of teenage girls obsess about their bodies and their diet. Nothing is wrong with dieting. Been there, done that.
We all have body image issues even as an adult but it's not always unhealthy. It's understandable to a degree. Toxic relationships are bad but individuals can learn from them and end them.
I don't see an eating disorder. Cher eats a lot in the movie. And two bowls of cereal, three pieces of turkey bacon , popcorn, and a bunch of candy IS a lot of food.
Dionne and Murray's relationship wasn't toxic. The whole point of their relationship was that on the outside they looked to be toxic and looked like they didn't care but in reality they love and care deeply about eachoter. This is shown in e.x the car scene when they're comforting eachoter in a near moment of death. It's also shown by the fact of how close Dionne and Murray's mother is, oh and let's not forget the "Sorry miss Dionne" moment. Not only that, but remember how Cher litterally CONFIRMES Dionne's and Murray's closeness in a scene in the second half of the movie. I'M SO FUCKING DONE WITH THIS SHIT
Considering this is a modern day adaptation of Jane Austen's Emma set in Beverly Hills, I think they did a fine job. As other comments have said, this was meant to be over the top comedy all about stereotypes. It was intentional. Sorry, but I don't agree with your video AT ALL.
@@bezoticallyyours83 Bcz their parents raised them shielding from the reality, to a point where even clapping makes them triggered, you need to do silly things like jazz hands to makes them feel comfortable. They are big babies now who needs your attention, caring and babysitting. They need trigger warning labels on top of things bcz what they are going to read can be triggering. If you think I'm making these all up, just look at how people today are reacting to some silly movie plots.
E P I clicked on the video fully expecting quality facts. It's my fault for expecting quality in 2018. Next video will be about the women who are in an abusive relationship, developed PTSD, or an eating disorder all because they watched Clueless. Angry march with cardboard signs to follow.
big loser I'm just pointing out that this video was stupid. No one draws these conclusion from watching the movie unless they're looking for reasons to be offended. I'm not offended in the slightest. You sound angry as though my innocuous comments hit a nerve, so I truly hope your day gets better! 💖
cmon now, did you watch the movie? Murray: Woman, lend me fi' dollas. Dionne: Murray, I have asked you repeatedly not to call me "woman". Murray: Excuse me, "Ms. Dionne." Dionne: Thank you. Murray: My street slang is an increasingly valid form of expression. Most of the feminine pronouns do have mocking - but not necessarily in misogynistic undertones.
What's wrong with today's self-acclaimed film experts? - They question characters' actions in stead of the quality of the script and the entertainment quotient of the movie. News flash- Just like real-life people, reel-life people don't have to be "right" all the time.
Because they aren't experts! Anyone with a camera, editing skills and UA-cam accounts can spout off the mouth about anything, with no validity, intelligence or critical thinking. This video is an example!
Can't believe I never noticed that when Cher is giving her classroom speech on the 'Hate-ee-ans' that her chewing gum is the EXACT shade of yellow as her entire outfit.
"Problematic behavior" mentioned in this movie is relating to the times, topics that were common ground in the 90s. Josh in the movie is the voice of the "woke" college-educated person. For example. Cher is "CLUELESS" in how to deal with Lucy, and Josh INFORMS her. This youtube video takes many elements out of context. Cher represents what we would call today "not woke" and "basic," hence Clueless. The film depicts the characters, especially Cher, as "learning," just as all adolescents do.
I never thought I'd want to go back to the 90s, but this video made me want to return. Anything to get out of this stupid, Puritanical, moral panic phase we're all enduring. Clueless is a satire. A comedic film meant to exaggerate and poke fun at stereotypes. It's not meant to be taken so seriously!
I get where this video is coming from, but the movie is literally called "Clueless' - as in, most of the characters are clueless about certain things. Cher, being the main character, is clueless about a lot of things - international politics, the ethnicity of her father's staff, the sexuality of Christian. It's meant to be satire and comedy. It's not meant to be mean-spirited.
This exactly. The whole point of Christian being the perfect stereotype is to highlight Cher’s cluelessness. Despite everything she doesn’t realise he’s gay, because she lets her desire to have a hot boyfriend get in the way of actual logic and really seeing who is in front of her. It’s only later when she gets over being smitten that she gets to know who he really is, and what he’s good at. Which is kind of parallel to her journey with other characters - Elton who she superficially thinks is great because he’s popular when in reality he is a creep, her teachers who she begins to see as real people, and Josh. Not sure she got there with the maid, it’s been a while since I watched the whole movie.
Such a stretch and they didn’t take in to consideration that this story is Emma written by Jane Austin. I think this kinda has something to do with their points.
Oh gosh... this was painful to watch. And by the way, the biggest part about this movie you forgot to mention, is that it’s based off of a Jane Austen novel.
It's funny how people view stuff like this decades later and nit pick at things considered politically incorrect like it's new, when people recognized those same things when the movie came out and that was part of what made it funny in the first place.
Much of the analysis of this movie is way off the mark. The narrator has conveniently forgot to mention the part where Cher is reflecting on all the good things about Deons relationship and that Deons boyfriend is putting on an act and that fact that Deon doesn’t just stand there and take it but often puts him in his place and shows what strong intelligent girl should do. I’d recommend a teenaged girl watch this movie over any of the horrible crap supposedly geared towards girls today.
I was going to say why’s no one talking about this! After I saw that I was like never again. I never understand why people like it. I mean scary movie 1 & 2 is better.
Writers: hey let's make a joke deliberately and obviously set up to mock the ignorance of our mainstream characters and their ignorance about oppressed groups.... Critics: omg look at the shamefully ignorant things these characters do how could any writer think that's okay?!? How did they not see that's not okay to say?!? Uhhhh
Love how nobody points out the fact that Elton is shown multiple times hugging and kissing Cher on the cheek and she NEVER objects until the car scene so... lol even I thought they had a thing the first time I watched the movie so to blame Elton for genuinely believing that Cher felt the same way is basically saying you didn’t watch the first 30 minutes of the movie
The point, I think, is Cher sees the good people and things of Elton as good because he’s popular. She treats him as a friend, and he is imagining any vibes he might be getting from her. Also, none of that excuses not taking no for an answer and being a baby about getting rejected.
Or the fact that, as a kid, Tai saying “no shit you got coke here?” always made me laugh. Her being surprised there was Coca-Cola at Bronson Alcott never registered with me until watching it as an adult and realizing it was actually cocaine. 🤯🤯🤣
Uh. These aren’t problems. It’s a movie, an exaggerated reflection of our reality and in the 90s the way these characters spoke and acted was reality. It’s a comedy based on the 90s Calm down it’s not problematic, you’re just too young to know the difference between a movie and reality.
The idea of the gay stereotypes in Christians character is that it was supposed to be so obviously gay that anyone should see it, but Cher still thinks he’s into her. It’s meant to showcase her - for lack of a better term - cluelessness.
Taking this *way* too seriously considering that it is a *comedy,* not a drama. The characters are *all* supposed to be stereotypes, not role models. Likewise, their peculiar habits are supposed to be *funny!*
Seriously...? They dfidn't call it "Politically Aware Teenagers" or "Socially Sensitive High Schoolers" (what a bore that would be). The movie is called "Clueless" for a reason. The whole point is that Cher's world is self-enclosed and oblivious to the rest of the world. The characters have to be shown as unaware, self-absorbed and "clueless" or else there is no story. What makes it funny is the very fact that the characters are so clueless. This video commentary is truly more clueless than the movie.
Dude, it's a satire. That's why there are stereotypes to play off of. Satire: the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
Ok... Y'all get that the insensitivity toward lgbt and the housekeeper's ethnicity is framed so that it makes her more vapid and uneducated, right? Yes, it's in the movie, but y'all completely left out that it is there to illustrate Cher's shortcomings...ie Josh immediately takes her to task for not knowing her own maid's nationality.
This totally misses the point! So here are the points and my issues 1. Toxic relationship- yes, but Cher points out that they are ‘secretly’ really sweet to each other 2. LGBTQ stereotypes- it’s a SATIRE!! It’s meant to be funny! With Lucy- of course she isn’t developed! She is the maid are servants of ANY ethnicity well rounded? Not usually. 3. Eating disorder- ummmmm She doesn’t have an eating disorder she says ‘I feel like a heifer’ because she ate an unhealthy breakfast, is two bowls of cereal, bacon, m n ms and liquorice a healthy meal? She is only referring to the nutrition value of her food. With them ‘obsessing’ over things being fat free and trying to lose weight it is actually trying to show how shallow these things are. And her when she is trying to make Mr Hall take the coffee the only reason she says she’s had too much already is just so he’ll take it and share it with Miss Guiest! IK I missed some stuff out but yk
I thought this was going to be some insight into todays culture and how it was a very smart and well written movie that definitely transcends generations, and immediately it turns into an essay by a college freshman in her first women's studies class. A movie with a predominately female cast with a female protagonist based on a predominately female led book by a prominent female author passes the bechdel test? How much you wanna bed Amy Heckerling didn't once think about the Bechdel Test when writing this movie, especially as it didn't really take off as a cinematic concept until the mid to late 2000s? Should we be discussing how a junior in HS is a toxic male, or how he seemingly emulates the prevailing urban culture, in spite of the fact that he is clearly a very intelligent and erudite person from , assumably, an upper class, who is portraying an "identity" to appear different amongst his peers? The "man hating" gym teacher stereotype is obvious, but what isn't obvious is that the same "man hating" gym teacher is elbowing girls out of the way at the wedding at the end to catch the bouquet. Christian's "overemphasized gayness" was not in any way derogatory, but purposely cliche, just as all the kids have cliched identities. They don't know who they are so they base their "self" on external appearance and sex. The joke was that he was unabashedly broadcasting his sexuality to all of his peers, and in spite of all the clues he was giving off, Cher still didn't get it because, well, typical 15-17 year old guys don't act like that. Even the gay ones. Here's a topic for conversation: Did Clueless provide inspiration for the Step Brother/Sister genre of porn popular today? Kinda an odd pairing, isn't it? There's plenty about this movie that you notice as an adult, especially having seen it when it first came out as a kid. However, as an adult, one should be at the point where they recognize basic concepts of satire and parody, especially in light of the fact that kids today are still very much parodies of themselves. Let's just hope they grow out of it. This was a poorly researched and written essay, tantamount to a progressive grievance list solely intended to virtue signal.
In regards to number two - do you realize that we wouldn’t get to where we are today if it wasn’t for that time? We we grow we learn and we evolve. And as a Puerto Rican who lived in LA in the late 90s, I can tell you right now that the whole Mexican thing was funny because everybody there thinks you’re a freaking Mexican. Annoying but not as insulting as a white girl thats “woke” will make you think it is.
Making light of an issue is not bad in and of itself, just because something is featured in a movie doesn't mean that the movie is bad, it's about what light the issue is put in that's important
Oh my gosh, the stereotypes are in there for jokes. It’s a comedy. Teenage girls DO obsess over their bodies, teenagers ARE often in mildly toxic relationships, and a lot of maids for wealthy families are from places like El Salvador. Why shouldn’t girls be allowed to just talk about guys if they want without being branded as vapid or superficial? And as a woman, idk about other women, but I DO get grumpy at that time of the month because I’m in pain 😂 It’s not supposed to be perfectly politically correct, it’s not a movie from the 2010s, and thank heavens for that.
This one of the worst videos I have ever seen on youtube. Whoever made this clearly missed the point of ALL the satire in the movie. When Cher thinks her El Salvadorian maid is from Mexico, it’s meant to show how ignorant she is about the world beyond America. When the girls fret over the small amounts of food they’re eating, that’s meant to show how unhealthy dieting culture had become in the 90s. The character of Elton is not meant to be admired. Try learning about things like “tone” and “context” before making another video.
saying eating disorder is extreme. maybe she has a disordered view towards food or she's over critical but it doesn't mean she has a condition. eating disorders aren't just about weight or food or eating ...
So we're not going to talk about how Cher gets with her ex-step-brother? Even if they weren't blood-related, he was portrayed as a brother figure at the start of the movie. The rest of this stuff is common and was mainly intentional satire on stereotypes, the brother thing is the uncomfortable aspect of this movie in my opinion.
Geesh. Missing the point much. The movie is called Clueless. Meaning most of the main characters are absurd clueless individuals. Hence the title. 🙄. Otherwise maybe they would call it Sensible.
@@charlizey9596 not technically weird but sorry I refuse to ever date someone who has a parent who is or was ever married to one of my parents. I think most of us can agree that's weird...
I bet this channel hasn't heard of the Riverdale tv show lmao. The teens of Clueless didn't act as if they were in their 20s but I'm glad it was made in the 90s or else people would've ruined it.
but the stereotypes were the whole point of the movie and its comedy. It wasnt saying gay people are like christian it was using the extravagant gay stereotype in order to be comedic
You could retitle this, “All the things wrong with how people think today using Clueless as an example.” My goodness-take a great movie and PC it into something entirely different.
Cher didn't have an eating disorder, she really ate too much with the 2 bowls of special k she mentioned. Besides like Ross Carlson says, she promotes excersise and healthy eating. That thing about cut in little pieces the food is to have a better digestion. I think so :)
JFC, do the creators of this video understand nuance, sarcasm, or comedy AT ALL?! So much of this is taken out of context and in that regard, the narrator fails to mention that all these are how the characters start out and the point of the movie is how they grow and become better people, accepting each other for who they are and relaxing their original judgments. Furthermore, I know plenty of Persians, and that "stereotype" is spot on and hardly insulting. They all love leather and drive BMWs. What exactly is wrong about either of those things? It is not so much a stereotype as it is an observation. Learn the difference! I think the biggest problem with this video is that, for some reason, young people today are not being taught how life used to be and that lack of understanding makes them sound like a bunch of whiny twits. My generation is failing them as teachers.
My favorite movie is clueless and cher Josh are so cute together this was first time watch it really great movie cher and Josh are so amazing couple together
I still love this movie as a teenager this may sound so silly to some but it shaped me out in a lot of ways I've watched this movie over a million times
I'm not saying all the points aren't valid but I was the same age as these characters at the same time and most of it is just called being a teenager. As a teenager you aren't "politically correct" most of the time regardless of socioeconomic standing. You have to live , learn and grow and as many people have pointed out Cher narrates and explains most of these things. Like the fact that Murray and Deon are really nice too each other when no one is looking.Murray, wants to be cool but he is still an insecure teenager, so he may seem a little possessive but in no way is a douche bag, that's just fear and not knowing how to have a mature relationship because well, you're not mature...lol. Movies usually over dramatize things to make them obvious like the fact that Christian was Gay. When you're that age you are still struggling to figure out who you are, which was basically one of the major themes of the movie. It was just done in a clever comedic way, to stand out from the other overly sappy teen dramedy movies and shows from that era. Not that they weren't great in their own right. I have to agree they were reaching a bit. The movie was not geared to politically correct adults, but teenagers.
But Cher saying her maid is Mexican is meant to be a comment on her ignorance. Sure, its an outdated joke, but it's on her. Also, we're meant to dislike Elton because he's a pushy creep who is only nice until she turns him down. The entire point is that Cher is, well, clueless about his true nature, as she is about everything else. Way to skim the surface...
I am Hispanic and get my nationality mistaken all the freaking time... even by other Latinos.... and it’s set in Los Ángeles which is full of Mexicans...
Nena Salvadorian people do get pissed off women you mistake them for Mexican
@@alejandromolinac yes but how often do you get people asking if you "speak Mexican" (well unless you're talking to a Trump supporter of course haha
@@sagarwadgaonkar7580 YOU MEAN YOUR DICTATOR RACIST BIDEN WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND ANY RACE!
@@alejandromolinacthat’s because in America we have a lot of ignorant people who are woke and look at Latinos as monolithic
most of this stuff is intentional?? clueless is partly satire and is sometimes obviously parodying
All of this was intentional. It was pointing out the flaws in society at the time by making them so obviously ridiculous.
EXACTLY!! Thank you ♡
exactly
@@danidejaneiro8378 Thank you! it is why it is funny, a way to bring up the issue and deal with it in micro circles ,,, it is better than blame and censorship
Exactly
I AM SO HAPPY THIS MOVIE CAME OUT WHEN IT DID. This would not survive the era of extra sensitiveness we are living nowadays.
I feel like most movies wouldn't survive nowadays, when people cannot take a lighthearted joke.
Melina, of course not all the jokes back then were lighthearted or humourous, but I also wasn't thinking all the way back to the 20s haha. What I mean is that nowadays people find ways to get offended at every little thing, I think you know what I mean. But I also understand where you're coming from.
Gladys exactly I was the same age as Cher and I hated her at the start but by about 5 minutes into the film, she was my hero!
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@Melina Covi Omfg are you seriously comparing the two? Back then woman and men did not have the same rights, but guess what? Now they do! That was a mistake of the past and we as human being have now learned from it and are ready to move on.
Now in order for us to learn from mistakes there must be one in the first place. Back then there clearly was a mistake ;people were not treated equally by law. It was injustice.
But not they are.(At least in the majority of the world).
That was a thing that could be counted as a major problem that effected everyone, the things people complain about now, when it comes to this movie, are not.
What this video totally misses is that Clueless is a satire- also, Elton was portrayed in a bad light in this movie, and Cher calls him out for it. You were supposed to hate Elton for what he did, not condone it-I think that makes this movie a bit ahead of its time in this regard.
mackenzie pfeifer exactly what I was going to say. The movie was purposely stereotypical. The stereotypical female, always worrying about her weight and her food intake. They targeted these problems by exposing how ridiculous they are. Thus, this made the movie funny!
Exactly! Plus its based on Jane Austen's novel 'Emma' in which Mr. Elton is too forward with Emma in the carriage home from a ball, making her confused and uncomfortable - they modernised his actions very effectively while staying true to the story
Agreed! This was ahead of it's time with "no means no." Elton basically accuses her of "leading him on" and Cher's response is aptly, "As if!" Elton is a douche and we see it that way.
Exactly. Cher even says on the phone that she was "sexually harassed". The movie does not condone Elton's actions at all.
It was a movie about being superficial/stereotypes and how the main character evolved. Dion wasn't a meek gf that never stood up for herself, they didn't fat shame Ty for not being a stick, dude was gay and apparently everyone but Cher knew it yet they didn't treat him any differently. Saw this with friends for my 13th birthday and the only weird thing we took away from it was that she ends up with her ex-stepbrother .
Same.. it was so weird.. why the hell would you date your bro? No matter how "un- related" you might be-
Toxic? They are in High School. Trust me, there are worse relationships. Plus, this is comedy.
Stereotypes? Again, this is how people view them in High School. Aaaand again, a 90s comedy. Pointing out there ethnicity? But but they're Iranian ... the maid is to show how clueless the rich can be about other ethnicities.
Sensitivity Training? Yeah Elton is an a**, but he stopped eventually when he got the sign.
Eating disorder? I'm sorry but 99% of teenage girls obsess about their bodies and their diet. Nothing is wrong with dieting. Been there, done that.
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We all have body image issues even as an adult but it's not always unhealthy. It's understandable to a degree. Toxic relationships are bad but individuals can learn from them and end them.
this reviewer completely missed the point lmao
I don't see an eating disorder. Cher eats a lot in the movie. And two bowls of cereal, three pieces of turkey bacon , popcorn, and a bunch of candy IS a lot of food.
idk i thought josh, an 18 year old, dating his 15 year old ex-step sister was a little creepy but anyways
adele luks I think he's older than that even. He's been in college at least a semester. I think he's like 20.
adele luks omg i thought i was the only one who thought this !
Yeah I'm surprised that wasn't mentioned at all.
ruby rydinghood .... so the age gap gets Worse wow
Not that it matters but I think she was 16 when she started dating him
Ugh I wish the outfits came back into style. The knee highs, plaid skirts, the shoes, the tops. I loved and love that look so much.
Don't need to wait for a fashion to come back.
Well it’s coming back now! The 90s are back! ❤️
I hope you get to wear all of that 😎
Wear what YOU want!!! Be happy doing what YOU WANT!! Don't wait for anything. Do what makes you happy!!!
Reminded me of when I used to do knee highs with my private school uniform skirt!
Dionne and Murray's relationship wasn't toxic. The whole point of their relationship was that on the outside they looked to be toxic and looked like they didn't care but in reality they love and care deeply about eachoter. This is shown in e.x the car scene when they're comforting eachoter in a near moment of death. It's also shown by the fact of how close Dionne and Murray's mother is, oh and let's not forget the "Sorry miss Dionne" moment.
Not only that, but remember how Cher litterally CONFIRMES Dionne's and Murray's closeness in a scene in the second half of the movie.
I'M SO FUCKING DONE WITH THIS SHIT
Exactly! Some bigot wrote this piece. Elon was on the verge of sexual assault, but they made him seem like "he got the memo".
I don't think caring about your health counts as an eating disorder.
Not to the point you have no vitamins or minerals in the body that prevents cancer
Both extremes are bad
for fatsos it is. only obese body is a real body, if you're healthy and slim, you're oppressed.
julijakeit periodt sis,, finally someone said it 😌💗
Ya joking about puking your food out isnt caring about your health...
julijakeit no you’re not luv
Considering this is a modern day adaptation of Jane Austen's Emma set in Beverly Hills, I think they did a fine job. As other comments have said, this was meant to be over the top comedy all about stereotypes. It was intentional. Sorry, but I don't agree with your video AT ALL.
According to this video, discussing or depicting bad things is the same as endorsing them, and no bad things should ever be shown in a movie.
Exactly, and until we get rid of bad things in real life, there’d no point removing them from movies that need then for entertainment value! ;)
Even as a child i was smart enough to understand the humour and context of this movie, this video is just sad. I'm sad i even watched it.
I really don't think it's all that deep!
This is so stupid, the point is that it's so stereotypical. Why do people get so offended now??
Because people lost their sense of humor
@@bezoticallyyours83 Bcz their parents raised them shielding from the reality, to a point where even clapping makes them triggered, you need to do silly things like jazz hands to makes them feel comfortable. They are big babies now who needs your attention, caring and babysitting. They need trigger warning labels on top of things bcz what they are going to read can be triggering. If you think I'm making these all up, just look at how people today are reacting to some silly movie plots.
This video explains what's wrong with the world right now and why 90s were so much better.
Avin Vkn and the 80s, 70s, 60s, we might have more technology now but damn man we got too much technology now
Ya man, people get afwnded on behalf of everyone else. Every joke is off
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Title should be "Things you look for in 'Clueless' if you're a delicate snowflake who delights in making everything an issue."
LegallyBrunette and Beautiful hahaha...you nailed it :)
E P I clicked on the video fully expecting quality facts. It's my fault for expecting quality in 2018. Next video will be about the women who are in an abusive relationship, developed PTSD, or an eating disorder all because they watched Clueless. Angry march with cardboard signs to follow.
jesus christ your skull is thick as fuuuuck, imagine getting this offended for no reason lmao
big loser I'm just pointing out that this video was stupid. No one draws these conclusion from watching the movie unless they're looking for reasons to be offended. I'm not offended in the slightest. You sound angry as though my innocuous comments hit a nerve, so I truly hope your day gets better! 💖
Also some of there points are parts of the plot or part of just what that character happens to be like
cmon now, did you watch the movie?
Murray:
Woman, lend me fi' dollas.
Dionne:
Murray, I have asked you repeatedly not to call me "woman".
Murray:
Excuse me, "Ms. Dionne."
Dionne:
Thank you.
Murray:
My street slang is an increasingly valid form of expression. Most of the feminine pronouns do have mocking - but not necessarily in misogynistic undertones.
Thank You
Things that were in clueless because it was kind of the point of clueless... yeah the movie was ahead of its time, this is how satire works
What's wrong with today's self-acclaimed film experts? - They question characters' actions in stead of the quality of the script and the entertainment quotient of the movie. News flash- Just like real-life people, reel-life people don't have to be "right" all the time.
Because they aren't experts! Anyone with a camera, editing skills and UA-cam accounts can spout off the mouth about anything, with no validity, intelligence or critical thinking. This video is an example!
Can't believe I never noticed that when Cher is giving her classroom speech on the 'Hate-ee-ans' that her chewing gum is the EXACT shade of yellow as her entire outfit.
"Problematic behavior" mentioned in this movie is relating to the times, topics that were common ground in the 90s. Josh in the movie is the voice of the "woke" college-educated person. For example. Cher is "CLUELESS" in how to deal with Lucy, and Josh INFORMS her. This youtube video takes many elements out of context. Cher represents what we would call today "not woke" and "basic," hence Clueless. The film depicts the characters, especially Cher, as "learning," just as all adolescents do.
I never thought I'd want to go back to the 90s, but this video made me want to return. Anything to get out of this stupid, Puritanical, moral panic phase we're all enduring. Clueless is a satire. A comedic film meant to exaggerate and poke fun at stereotypes. It's not meant to be taken so seriously!
this movie was a satire so a lot of this stuff in this video is poking fun at beverly hills culture of the time
I get where this video is coming from, but the movie is literally called "Clueless' - as in, most of the characters are clueless about certain things. Cher, being the main character, is clueless about a lot of things - international politics, the ethnicity of her father's staff, the sexuality of Christian. It's meant to be satire and comedy. It's not meant to be mean-spirited.
This exactly. The whole point of Christian being the perfect stereotype is to highlight Cher’s cluelessness. Despite everything she doesn’t realise he’s gay, because she lets her desire to have a hot boyfriend get in the way of actual logic and really seeing who is in front of her. It’s only later when she gets over being smitten that she gets to know who he really is, and what he’s good at. Which is kind of parallel to her journey with other characters - Elton who she superficially thinks is great because he’s popular when in reality he is a creep, her teachers who she begins to see as real people, and Josh. Not sure she got there with the maid, it’s been a while since I watched the whole movie.
This video is a bit of a stretch, but I still enjoyed it.
SodaSiren Dear brother.
Such a stretch and they didn’t take in to consideration that this story is Emma written by Jane Austin. I think this kinda has something to do with their points.
Oh gosh... this was painful to watch.
And by the way, the biggest part about this movie you forgot to mention, is that it’s based off of a Jane Austen novel.
you guys took this way too far. thanks.
It's funny how people view stuff like this decades later and nit pick at things considered politically incorrect like it's new, when people recognized those same things when the movie came out and that was part of what made it funny in the first place.
🙄🙄 As if.....
Much of the analysis of this movie is way off the mark. The narrator has conveniently forgot to mention the part where Cher is reflecting on all the good things about Deons relationship and that Deons boyfriend is putting on an act and that fact that Deon doesn’t just stand there and take it but often puts him in his place and shows what strong intelligent girl should do. I’d recommend a teenaged girl watch this movie over any of the horrible crap supposedly geared towards girls today.
Lots of people worry about their weight. This is hardly considered a eating disorder, considering how often she does snack
Movie did a fantastic job at showing how Cher was CLUELESS. So what's the problem?
i always thought the Persian Mafia guys were so sexy lol. tall, dark, handsome, leather jackets!!!
You ain't the only one! Many more would marry Persians if they weren't so religious, Mediterranean/Middle Eastern people are beautiful
onarionaa and the whole gang brought that mysterious about them tall dark handsome and mysterious yes
Riley L. I’m Persian, trust me we are super anti-religious, if you ever meet one you will surely see for yourself
@@rileyl.794 I'm half Iranian, I despise those stuffs, especially hate the "religion of peace", and what they are bringing here.
Stereotypes exist, lets stop evading reality in the name of sensitivity, truth is paramount.
*I only think it’s weird she fell in love with her step brother*
Well ex
I was going to say why’s no one talking about this! After I saw that I was like never again. I never understand why people like it. I mean scary movie 1 & 2 is better.
I was looking for this comment! I still think that was gross and creepy...even back then!! They should have not gotten together!
Writers: hey let's make a joke deliberately and obviously set up to mock the ignorance of our mainstream characters and their ignorance about oppressed groups.... Critics: omg look at the shamefully ignorant things these characters do how could any writer think that's okay?!? How did they not see that's not okay to say?!? Uhhhh
The girls in this film were absolutely gorgeous. I loved this movie! 😃
Thanks for stating all the obvious tropes the movie does so well at portraying.
The movie is genius, this video, on the other hand, is totally clueless.
Love how nobody points out the fact that Elton is shown multiple times hugging and kissing Cher on the cheek and she NEVER objects until the car scene so... lol even I thought they had a thing the first time I watched the movie so to blame Elton for genuinely believing that Cher felt the same way is basically saying you didn’t watch the first 30 minutes of the movie
Cher is literally smiling
The point, I think, is Cher sees the good people and things of Elton as good because he’s popular. She treats him as a friend, and he is imagining any vibes he might be getting from her. Also, none of that excuses not taking no for an answer and being a baby about getting rejected.
Or the fact that, as a kid, Tai saying “no shit you got coke here?” always made me laugh. Her being surprised there was Coca-Cola at Bronson Alcott never registered with me until watching it as an adult and realizing it was actually cocaine. 🤯🤯🤣
She wasn't talking about the drink .she was talking about the white stuff .my bad I didn't read all of your comment 🤣🤣😊
Uh. These aren’t problems. It’s a movie, an exaggerated reflection of our reality and in the 90s the way these characters spoke and acted was reality.
It’s a comedy based on the 90s
Calm down it’s not problematic, you’re just too young to know the difference between a movie and reality.
The idea of the gay stereotypes in Christians character is that it was supposed to be so obviously gay that anyone should see it, but Cher still thinks he’s into her. It’s meant to showcase her - for lack of a better term - cluelessness.
“You’re a virgin who can’t drive” 😳
Taking this *way* too seriously considering that it is a *comedy,* not a drama. The characters are *all* supposed to be stereotypes, not role models. Likewise, their peculiar habits are supposed to be *funny!*
U missed one, Cher uses the word u dont say for mentally challenged anymore when explaining how she mixed up the coffee with her Snapple
Oh, you actually found something! Unlike the video that had nothing valid at all.
Seriously...? They dfidn't call it "Politically Aware Teenagers" or "Socially Sensitive High Schoolers" (what a bore that would be). The movie is called "Clueless" for a reason. The whole point is that Cher's world is self-enclosed and oblivious to the rest of the world. The characters have to be shown as unaware, self-absorbed and "clueless" or else there is no story. What makes it funny is the very fact that the characters are so clueless. This video commentary is truly more clueless than the movie.
Pretty much
Oh boy! Wasn’t expecting that sort of commentary. Take me back to the 90s when people didn’t take themselves so seriously.
Dude, it's a satire. That's why there are stereotypes to play off of. Satire: the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
Ok... Y'all get that the insensitivity toward lgbt and the housekeeper's ethnicity is framed so that it makes her more vapid and uneducated, right? Yes, it's in the movie, but y'all completely left out that it is there to illustrate Cher's shortcomings...ie Josh immediately takes her to task for not knowing her own maid's nationality.
the analysis here is 10x worse than my eng lit teacher trying to overanalyse Shakespeare
This totally misses the point! So here are the points and my issues
1. Toxic relationship- yes, but Cher points out that they are ‘secretly’ really sweet to each other
2. LGBTQ stereotypes- it’s a SATIRE!! It’s meant to be funny! With Lucy- of course she isn’t developed! She is the maid are servants of ANY ethnicity well rounded? Not usually.
3. Eating disorder- ummmmm
She doesn’t have an eating disorder she says ‘I feel like a heifer’ because she ate an unhealthy breakfast, is two bowls of cereal, bacon, m n ms and liquorice a healthy meal? She is only referring to the nutrition value of her food. With them ‘obsessing’ over things being fat free and trying to lose weight it is actually trying to show how shallow these things are. And her when she is trying to make Mr Hall take the coffee the only reason she says she’s had too much already is just so he’ll take it and share it with Miss Guiest!
IK I missed some stuff out but yk
Everything named is exactly what I've always LOVED about this movie!
Right? Satire!
I thought this was going to be some insight into todays culture and how it was a very smart and well written movie that definitely transcends generations, and immediately it turns into an essay by a college freshman in her first women's studies class. A movie with a predominately female cast with a female protagonist based on a predominately female led book by a prominent female author passes the bechdel test? How much you wanna bed Amy Heckerling didn't once think about the Bechdel Test when writing this movie, especially as it didn't really take off as a cinematic concept until the mid to late 2000s?
Should we be discussing how a junior in HS is a toxic male, or how he seemingly emulates the prevailing urban culture, in spite of the fact that he is clearly a very intelligent and erudite person from , assumably, an upper class, who is portraying an "identity" to appear different amongst his peers?
The "man hating" gym teacher stereotype is obvious, but what isn't obvious is that the same "man hating" gym teacher is elbowing girls out of the way at the wedding at the end to catch the bouquet.
Christian's "overemphasized gayness" was not in any way derogatory, but purposely cliche, just as all the kids have cliched identities. They don't know who they are so they base their "self" on external appearance and sex. The joke was that he was unabashedly broadcasting his sexuality to all of his peers, and in spite of all the clues he was giving off, Cher still didn't get it because, well, typical 15-17 year old guys don't act like that. Even the gay ones.
Here's a topic for conversation: Did Clueless provide inspiration for the Step Brother/Sister genre of porn popular today? Kinda an odd pairing, isn't it?
There's plenty about this movie that you notice as an adult, especially having seen it when it first came out as a kid. However, as an adult, one should be at the point where they recognize basic concepts of satire and parody, especially in light of the fact that kids today are still very much parodies of themselves. Let's just hope they grow out of it. This was a poorly researched and written essay, tantamount to a progressive grievance list solely intended to virtue signal.
In regards to number two - do you realize that we wouldn’t get to where we are today if it wasn’t for that time? We we grow we learn and we evolve. And as a Puerto Rican who lived in LA in the late 90s, I can tell you right now that the whole Mexican thing was funny because everybody there thinks you’re a freaking Mexican. Annoying but not as insulting as a white girl thats “woke” will make you think it is.
oh my god ew what is this video LMAO
should've mentioned the fact that they're doing all this stuff while being 15
Making light of an issue is not bad in and of itself, just because something is featured in a movie doesn't mean that the movie is bad, it's about what light the issue is put in that's important
Wait a minute can you repeat that again. I was too busy looking at Alicia Silverstone and Stacy Dash!
Oh my gosh, the stereotypes are in there for jokes. It’s a comedy. Teenage girls DO obsess over their bodies, teenagers ARE often in mildly toxic relationships, and a lot of maids for wealthy families are from places like El Salvador. Why shouldn’t girls be allowed to just talk about guys if they want without being branded as vapid or superficial? And as a woman, idk about other women, but I DO get grumpy at that time of the month because I’m in pain 😂 It’s not supposed to be perfectly politically correct, it’s not a movie from the 2010s, and thank heavens for that.
This one of the worst videos I have ever seen on youtube. Whoever made this clearly missed the point of ALL the satire in the movie. When Cher thinks her El Salvadorian maid is from Mexico, it’s meant to show how ignorant she is about the world beyond America. When the girls fret over the small amounts of food they’re eating, that’s meant to show how unhealthy dieting culture had become in the 90s. The character of Elton is not meant to be admired. Try learning about things like “tone” and “context” before making another video.
This video is a faaaaaar stretch. Movies do not equal reality.
saying eating disorder is extreme. maybe she has a disordered view towards food or she's over critical but it doesn't mean she has a condition. eating disorders aren't just about weight or food or eating ...
Really? This proved the exact reason of my passionate hate for "adulting" 😂😂😂😂
Ok but she did not care that Elton kissed her in class it was just a thing he did until it got to be too much when he harassed her in the car
most of these "micro aggressions" or whatever are ironic, so actually the movie i would say is quite ahead of its time
So we're not going to talk about how Cher gets with her ex-step-brother? Even if they weren't blood-related, he was portrayed as a brother figure at the start of the movie. The rest of this stuff is common and was mainly intentional satire on stereotypes, the brother thing is the uncomfortable aspect of this movie in my opinion.
I kind of think the whole movie is a stereotype. A smart rich privileged girl like it or not that is who cher is. But I love her character
Geesh. Missing the point much. The movie is called Clueless. Meaning most of the main characters are absurd clueless individuals. Hence the title. 🙄. Otherwise maybe they would call it Sensible.
I never noticed that cher smoked weed at the party
I’m so shocked they didn’t talk about the age gap between Cher and josh.
so, we are not going to talk about how she hooks up with her step brother.
Selena Metz That's what I'm saying!!! That's the only vote worthy thing wrong with the movie!!
@@neverloseyourvoice first of all he's her EX step-brother, secondly they're not blood related so there's nothing wrong
charlize Y the father still thinks of them like their his kidd
@@charlizey9596 not technically weird but sorry I refuse to ever date someone who has a parent who is or was ever married to one of my parents. I think most of us can agree that's weird...
I bet this channel hasn't heard of the Riverdale tv show lmao. The teens of Clueless didn't act as if they were in their 20s but I'm glad it was made in the 90s or else people would've ruined it.
Still remain one of the best (funny) out there. Would still watch it again and again 😌
but the stereotypes were the whole point of the movie and its comedy. It wasnt saying gay people are like christian it was using the extravagant gay stereotype in order to be comedic
Yes, and it wasn’t making fun of him for being gay, it was making fun of Cher for not picking up on all of the overt clues.
You could retitle this, “All the things wrong with how people think today using Clueless as an example.” My goodness-take a great movie and PC it into something entirely different.
Murray is literally my favourite character 😂😂
Cher didn't have an eating disorder, she really ate too much with the 2 bowls of special k she mentioned. Besides like Ross Carlson says, she promotes excersise and healthy eating. That thing about cut in little pieces the food is to have a better digestion. I think so :)
Wait in this there were a few scenes that weren’t in the film is there another one? Cuz if there is I want!
It’s almost like every character has to be perfect to you. If they were perfect it wouldn’t be a story
JFC, do the creators of this video understand nuance, sarcasm, or comedy AT ALL?! So much of this is taken out of context and in that regard, the narrator fails to mention that all these are how the characters start out and the point of the movie is how they grow and become better people, accepting each other for who they are and relaxing their original judgments. Furthermore, I know plenty of Persians, and that "stereotype" is spot on and hardly insulting. They all love leather and drive BMWs. What exactly is wrong about either of those things? It is not so much a stereotype as it is an observation. Learn the difference! I think the biggest problem with this video is that, for some reason, young people today are not being taught how life used to be and that lack of understanding makes them sound like a bunch of whiny twits. My generation is failing them as teachers.
I think many of these are to show the reality of high school and how Cher grew as a person
Maybe the reason why we weren't able to see them before, is because we were clueless.
Rolling with the homies!
The men in clueless was completely gorgeous 😍 ❤️
The first two ignores boundaries thing was mutual as she was smiling and receptive. The last one was bad.
Just saw it today for the first time and I noticed all of these things! Hahaha
Bruh most of these things are supposed to stand out that's the whole point of the movie
My favorite movie is clueless and cher Josh are so cute together this was first time watch it really great movie cher and Josh are so amazing couple together
As soon as I clicked this a tennis ball came up .
I always thought that the "cringe worthy" moments in the movie were intentional. I always thought they were making a point with those moments.
They were.
The relationship with Josh is by far the most problematic part of Clueless.
I still love this movie as a teenager this may sound so silly to some but it shaped me out in a lot of ways I've watched this movie over a million times
This is one of the best movies in the 90s. Will always b a favorite ❤️❤️
So helping others work out and complaining about standing in line for 40 mins during gym are signs of eating disorders
Fun fact - this is Emma by Jane Austen.
I'm not saying all the points aren't valid but I was the same age as these characters at the same time and most of it is just called being a teenager. As a teenager you aren't "politically correct" most of the time regardless of socioeconomic standing. You have to live , learn and grow and as many people have pointed out Cher narrates and explains most of these things. Like the fact that Murray and Deon are really nice too each other when no one is looking.Murray, wants to be cool but he is still an insecure teenager, so he may seem a little possessive but in no way is a douche bag, that's just fear and not knowing how to have a mature relationship because well, you're not mature...lol. Movies usually over dramatize things to make them obvious like the fact that Christian was Gay. When you're that age you are still struggling to figure out who you are, which was basically one of the major themes of the movie. It was just done in a clever comedic way, to stand out from the other overly sappy teen dramedy movies and shows from that era. Not that they weren't great in their own right. I have to agree they were reaching a bit. The movie was not geared to politically correct adults, but teenagers.
What the name of background music ?
1:18 "...even abuse."
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Man, maybe we are unnecessarily sensitive.