Natural planning model 1. what is the purpose of this project? 2. what is your vision of a successful project? 3. Brainstorm Ideas to plug the gap between here and there 4. Structure your ideas - sequence them in time. Pick the 3 most important things to do 5. Identify the VERY NEXT ACTION that needs to happen
A Natural Planning Model #GTD 1. Define a Purpose (Why are you willing to do this?) 2. Create a Vision (What is the perfect result?) 3. Brainstorm the Ideas (How to get to my desired outcome?) 4. Structure (Detail the Ideas to evaluate them. What ideas are worth implementing?) 5. Make a move (What is the first step to be done to make it happen) - and a bonus: How can I cut the amount of steps and can I? The order matters.
***** Structure means structurally detailed ideas, prototypes. 5-th step is to start implementing one of the prototypes by discovering some specific first step of action. Not to implement the embryo ideas without prototyping. In other words, we implement some part of structure in the first place. P.S. It's an honor to answer to you. )
***** Let me check, do I really understand what's your question. You mean, that you don't know how to get from theory part to implementation part, am I right? I'm not a fully accomplished innovator and I struggle with this issue myself. So , I can tell only from various creativity enhancing models that I know. There is a model, called "Zoom-in Zoom-out", so, the name is really explains the method, isn't it? According to this method, when you mace the 4th part, prototyping is the close detailed view. After this step, you need to zoom out and look at your structure as a whole in a framework of its field, etc.Then, you can make this Zi-Zo-Zi steps for some time before you can figure out the practical move, what's the first priority step. I don't know if i'm relevant to your question, maybe my answer doesn't match your question. But, my critique of GTD is that it talks about space to make decisions, but the process of making decisions is totally rational, lacking intuitive approach.
he's saying that our brain isn't good at planning complex projects on the fly so we resist taking action, we freeze-up since we don't want to fail... and to solve this issue we should borrow some tips from our natural ability to plan, instead of doing everything in your head as you normally would, this time you write it down and go step-by-step thru the five questions, at the end you end up with something simpler and easier to manage, your resistance and inaction disappears and so you start making progress, genius!
One simple and yet very effective principle I try to follow in this case is "Act on what you can control, in the present moment, let go of the rest", it's often a very simple task, it works like a charm, and quite often the thing I can control becomes narurally the famous "Next Action", then work towards your intention with small controlable steps, step after step, moment after moment while staying present, don't stop, or take just small pauses that's it.
That was pretty epic. I went through the writing part myself but paused and put in some thinking and real pen to paper writing. By the end I had about 4 pages. I've known about planning and recording and all that, but to experience it this way has caused something to click in me. The cherry on top is the key David Allen shared at the end that we can all easily go back to the right process when we realize we're screwing up its application in a goal or situation we're in. So intuitive. So AMAZING.
"You're a planning machine. You're planning all the time. You can't help it. You can't help [but] plan. You planned what to wear here today." *Looks down at self, sprawled on sofa in boxer shorts because when I got up 12+ hours ago I didn't have time to put on my dressing gown.*
This is great organization for ratioinal, logical thinking for ideas, breaking it down to structure of sequence and priorities. I think this is so helpful and a great layout. Definitely a GO TO video.
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I never was very good at writing papers I could never grasp the idea of the thesis statement. I was too young in college to come up with a thesis statement and stick to it
Great stuff. But there's one thing I'm not entirely clear about: Is using an outline good or bad (beginning at 16:38)? I think he's saying it's bad. If so, then why exactly, and what is the alternative exactly? Why do so many writing teachers and writers begin with an outline? Are they all wrong? Apparently, in Allen's view, they are.
I'm not a teacher, but have used GTD enough to have some thoughts. Using an outline is not desired, as a first stage, because it immediately assumes we have already done enough thinking to put it into a defined structure. The concept of the outline may take shape over time, though. His alternative is the Natural Planning Model that he presented. I suppose the "outline" would start materializing around the "Structure" phase. When we were in school there were two roles -- student and teacher. The Area of Focus and Responsibility (20K Horizon of Focus) of the teacher was to teach what a good paper "looked like" - 40K Vision. They also wanted to teach things like "Thesis statement; summary, etc". Everything was formulaic that went into good writing. Therefore, the teacher offered the outline upfront -- everything was included within that. The teacher could grade us on our thesis statement; how we responded with information from an external reference (quoted correctly with footnotes/endnotes); how we then responded (in our own words) to how the external reference supports our thesis statement; how we then bring in another external reference; .... etc... ; and then how we do a master summary (within that paragraph) of everything that then went back to supporting the thesis statement. Next paragraph... (rinse and repeat). The issue was the logistic of the Next Actual Action by the student - our role. We went home with our blank outline and tried to start the paper with that. Most likely we blanked.
I would say, Just start it, when you think about the completion of the task, you are thinking about the future and hence creating stress for yourself. Just start the task and be present.
This is quite a good talk, but confusing because at 09:00 he asks for ideas (the third step), then at 13:00 he says a boss planning future projects ask for ideas first, which is then said to be step four (structure).
+Ian Mayman Ideas in general (without giving thought to whether it's good or bad, just anything relevant) first. Then in step 4 (structure), you evaluate what is good or bad out of your brainstorm list. He is criticizing the boss who demands good ideas before any ideas have been laid on the table.
The problem is not the boss asking for ideas, it’s the boss asking for “GOOD ideas”. David Allen explained clearly in the video that “in order to know whether or not an idea is a good idea, that’s stage 4”. Stage 3 is when you collect ideas without judging yet whether they’re good or not.
Żeby wykreować dobre pomysły musimy wiedzieć dlaczego się zajmujemy problemem, okreslić cel i zwizualizowac efekt. Wtedy wiemy kiedy pomysł jest dobry.
In the last part of this presentation when he asked if audience wrote a paper and wrote the outline last then he told them that should be changed, a picture came up with a crossed out outline. At first I assumed that we can plan ahead and make an outline first if we let our brain to her thing because it's much simpler that way. Then I saw that picture and it felt like I should not even compose an outline. Can someone clear that up for me?
I think he was basically saying that our brain thinks in messy brainstorming ways (that outline would be under the #4 Structure) and that his teacher was basically skipping steps 1-3 of the way we naturally plan.
In my perception, what David is saying is that we humans are unable to plan something out from a to z at the start of the project. This is how project managers used to think and why projects often run late and out of budget. We simply cannot predict everything that might happen after we take the first next step (time passes, environment changes, other people react). So he argues that a detailed project outline is a waste of energy (although the sequence of foreseen actions is definitely a relevant step in the structure phase, I would say). The most effective way is to move forward in a project is to weekly monitor the desired outcomes and define the next steps that can be taken to move towards those outcomes. This is built on the same principle as the Lean Startup (Eric Ries).
Try to go through two ,once every day and then the structure will follow the strategy of his talk.. I am ADHD, and my failure in life has been planning and defining what work is... This material is like gold dust.. Kind Regards Ty
I never wrote the outline first, yet I made excellent grades all through school, college, post-bac studies, and grad school. Which one is he saying is unnatural, the outline first or the report first?
Seems great on the surface, but it feels like a doorway (funnel) to shelling out money to get to a deeper understanding. Seminars, webinars, private coaching. Not sure a simple method would need all that. Not sure even this needs all that.
get the book for a few bucks and its all there, no need for anything else. but its harder, thats why there are workshops and coaching, some people really need help, and need it fast.
Did he just say evolution? How does he think the world works so well together if it was evolution. Creation has made everything as well as the unanswered things that we can’t figure out yet. Certainly man did not make this world because he would’ve messed it up really badly.
Big fan of David Allen, but this speech does not present his ideas in an understandable way. Better read GTD or any of the short versions that exist on the web.
Sorry, but if you plan on learning from intelligent educated people then you are stuck with evolution. Evolution the fact, and evolution the theory that is the foundation of modern biology and medicine.
Bloody, bloody, blah, blah, blah. Initially you would think this is a great useful practical stuff. Actually, no, generic, generalist-ic, without connection to your real life, real tasks, real priorities, real management of things. And, I cannot help myself, I do not know why, some other speeches are exciting, taking you all in it, on David Allen's speeches I found myself falling asleep. ALWAYS. I wonder why this happens...
+Jack Worth I'm not saying I know the answer to you falling asleep, BUT usually I got sleepy when somebody else was doing problem solving for me, there's an issue my subconscious didn't want to deal with. When that somebody explained that, all sleepiness was gone.
I disagree, of course it's generalistic, it's fundamentally a structure for how to plan, and people plan in ALL different types of scenarios. It's utility I find is when I come across difficult tasks where I'm overwhelmed by a mix of emotions, using a structure like this delineates exactly what emotions I'm feeling and why, and then quickly focuses all those emotions so as to quickly tackle the task. It's a good structure for how to plan.
It's not entertainment, It's education. You might need to cultivate the discipline to focus on things for a period that are not immediately gratifying but pay off ten fold in the long run
Natural planning model
1. what is the purpose of this project?
2. what is your vision of a successful project?
3. Brainstorm Ideas to plug the gap between here and there
4. Structure your ideas - sequence them in time. Pick the 3 most important things to do
5. Identify the VERY NEXT ACTION that needs to happen
Thank you :)
A Natural Planning Model #GTD
1. Define a Purpose (Why are you willing to do this?)
2. Create a Vision (What is the perfect result?)
3. Brainstorm the Ideas (How to get to my desired outcome?)
4. Structure (Detail the Ideas to evaluate them. What ideas are worth implementing?)
5. Make a move (What is the first step to be done to make it happen)
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and a bonus: How can I cut the amount of steps and can I?
The order matters.
***** Structure means structurally detailed ideas, prototypes. 5-th step is to start implementing one of the prototypes by discovering some specific first step of action. Not to implement the embryo ideas without prototyping.
In other words, we implement some part of structure in the first place.
P.S. It's an honor to answer to you. )
*****
Let me check, do I really understand what's your question.
You mean, that you don't know how to get from theory part to implementation part, am I right?
I'm not a fully accomplished innovator and I struggle with this issue myself. So , I can tell only from various creativity enhancing models that I know.
There is a model, called "Zoom-in Zoom-out", so, the name is really explains the method, isn't it? According to this method, when you mace the 4th part, prototyping is the close detailed view. After this step, you need to zoom out and look at your structure as a whole in a framework of its field, etc.Then, you can make this Zi-Zo-Zi steps for some time before you can figure out the practical move, what's the first priority step.
I don't know if i'm relevant to your question, maybe my answer doesn't match your question.
But, my critique of GTD is that it talks about space to make decisions, but the process of making decisions is totally rational, lacking intuitive approach.
well said
wrg
awesome!
he's saying that our brain isn't good at planning complex projects on the fly so we resist taking action, we freeze-up since we don't want to fail...
and to solve this issue we should borrow some tips from our natural ability to plan, instead of doing everything in your head as you normally would, this time you write it down and go step-by-step thru the five questions, at the end you end up with something simpler and easier to manage, your resistance and inaction disappears and so you start making progress, genius!
Awesome stuff
One simple and yet very effective principle I try to follow in this case is "Act on what you can control, in the present moment, let go of the rest", it's often a very simple task, it works like a charm, and quite often the thing I can control becomes narurally the famous "Next Action", then work towards your intention with small controlable steps, step after step, moment after moment while staying present, don't stop, or take just small pauses that's it.
One of the great masters with great advice. Relaxing is the key. Not getting stressed out!
God! Mr. Allen is a genius! I followed the structure he provided during the video and it flows naturally to solutions. Cheers to Mr. Allen!
That was pretty epic. I went through the writing part myself but paused and put in some thinking and real pen to paper writing. By the end I had about 4 pages. I've known about planning and recording and all that, but to experience it this way has caused something to click in me. The cherry on top is the key David Allen shared at the end that we can all easily go back to the right process when we realize we're screwing up its application in a goal or situation we're in. So intuitive. So AMAZING.
This system is the best.
David Allen s the real deal . Real practical , precise , last mile advice in his book GTD !
"You're a planning machine. You're planning all the time. You can't help it. You can't help [but] plan. You planned what to wear here today."
*Looks down at self, sprawled on sofa in boxer shorts because when I got up 12+ hours ago I didn't have time to put on my dressing gown.*
That was i'm gonna comment.
My respect🙏
4:29
This is great organization for ratioinal, logical thinking for ideas, breaking it down to structure of sequence and priorities. I think this is so helpful and a great layout. Definitely a GO TO video.
I’m so excited about this! - I realise I have so much to reorganise in the various areas of my life! What a challenge. And how exciting!
One for the best video, felt like it unlocked something in my head at the time of brain storming
2:50 6:35 10:50 planning 14:30 xx 15:50 xx
I like the way you use vocabulary, It is easy to listen for me
This is just one side of hes work when you know all of hes work you will be more get more power, freedom and CLARITY(Peace of mind) =) Thanks David
Thanks
Incredible. Actually helped me come up with a plan
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It was so good
mr.David allen you are a genius.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Now i can plan how i am going to plan my plan for my plan to get me studying.
More complicated than it sounds!
Dear Allen sir, Thanks a lot for sharing great ideas for implementation...pls visit india for your workshop..
Excellent!
Getting in control is first of all having enough money to make space in your life
Then it sounds like the next action is planning how to make more money
Thank you
I never was very good at writing papers I could never grasp the idea of the thesis statement. I was too young in college to come up with a thesis statement and stick to it
Absolutely awesome
great speech
This sounds better than it sounds, if that makes sense...
You seem to make less sense than you actually do.
Great stuff. But there's one thing I'm not entirely clear about: Is using an outline good or bad (beginning at 16:38)? I think he's saying it's bad. If so, then why exactly, and what is the alternative exactly? Why do so many writing teachers and writers begin with an outline? Are they all wrong? Apparently, in Allen's view, they are.
I'm not a teacher, but have used GTD enough to have some thoughts.
Using an outline is not desired, as a first stage, because it immediately assumes we have already done enough thinking to put it into a defined structure. The concept of the outline may take shape over time, though.
His alternative is the Natural Planning Model that he presented. I suppose the "outline" would start materializing around the "Structure" phase.
When we were in school there were two roles -- student and teacher. The Area of Focus and Responsibility (20K Horizon of Focus) of the teacher was to teach what a good paper "looked like" - 40K Vision. They also wanted to teach things like "Thesis statement; summary, etc". Everything was formulaic that went into good writing. Therefore, the teacher offered the outline upfront -- everything was included within that. The teacher could grade us on our thesis statement; how we responded with information from an external reference (quoted correctly with footnotes/endnotes); how we then responded (in our own words) to how the external reference supports our thesis statement; how we then bring in another external reference; .... etc... ; and then how we do a master summary (within that paragraph) of everything that then went back to supporting the thesis statement.
Next paragraph... (rinse and repeat).
The issue was the logistic of the Next Actual Action by the student - our role. We went home with our blank outline and tried to start the paper with that. Most likely we blanked.
wow im looking at planning at a different perspective now
just do it and work out the problems afterward.
I would say, Just start it, when you think about the completion of the task, you are thinking about the future and hence creating stress for yourself. Just start the task and be present.
Very good speech!
1:59 "i bet no one will notice"
psychology(hand-crossing) )
liqo12 lady nose picker lol
The guy on his phone lol
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwsome thankyou so much
Legend
This is quite a good talk, but confusing because at 09:00 he asks for ideas (the third step), then at 13:00 he says a boss planning future projects ask for ideas first, which is then said to be step four (structure).
+Ian Mayman
Ideas in general (without giving thought to whether it's good or bad, just anything relevant) first. Then in step 4 (structure), you evaluate what is good or bad out of your brainstorm list.
He is criticizing the boss who demands good ideas before any ideas have been laid on the table.
Classic example of editing way too soon without first throwing around some crazy ass ideas to limber up the mind
Exactly the reason i came back 1day later to understand it for use😅
The problem is not the boss asking for ideas, it’s the boss asking for “GOOD ideas”. David Allen explained clearly in the video that “in order to know whether or not an idea is a good idea, that’s stage 4”. Stage 3 is when you collect ideas without judging yet whether they’re good or not.
Żeby wykreować dobre pomysły musimy wiedzieć dlaczego się zajmujemy problemem, okreslić cel i zwizualizowac efekt. Wtedy wiemy kiedy pomysł jest dobry.
Im pretty sure thats Steve Carrel in 9:52
I enjoyed it! :) Thanks for sharing.
In the last part of this presentation when he asked if audience wrote a paper and wrote the outline last then he told them that should be changed, a picture came up with a crossed out outline. At first I assumed that we can plan ahead and make an outline first if we let our brain to her thing because it's much simpler that way. Then I saw that picture and it felt like I should not even compose an outline. Can someone clear that up for me?
I think he was basically saying that our brain thinks in messy brainstorming ways (that outline would be under the #4 Structure) and that his teacher was basically skipping steps 1-3 of the way we naturally plan.
In my perception, what David is saying is that we humans are unable to plan something out from a to z at the start of the project. This is how project managers used to think and why projects often run late and out of budget.
We simply cannot predict everything that might happen after we take the first next step (time passes, environment changes, other people react).
So he argues that a detailed project outline is a waste of energy (although the sequence of foreseen actions is definitely a relevant step in the structure phase, I would say). The most effective way is to move forward in a project is to weekly monitor the desired outcomes and define the next steps that can be taken to move towards those outcomes.
This is built on the same principle as the Lean Startup (Eric Ries).
he ends this so up in the air I don't understand what he means by create creative space and we're a natural so why is it so difficult
Try to go through two ,once every day and then the structure will follow the strategy of his talk..
I am ADHD, and my failure in life has been planning and defining what work is...
This material is like gold dust..
Kind Regards Ty
Good job 👍🏻
I never wrote the outline first, yet I made excellent grades all through school, college, post-bac studies, and grad school. Which one is he saying is unnatural, the outline first or the report first?
Outline first is unnatural. What you're doing it good.
9.48 " Mind Map "
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Good shit
ignorant
I didn't know skivvies are back??
welcome INTPs
does anyone have the script for this talk?
look at the transcript
Good Thank
2:47
The book is better than this presentation.
14:10
Op 13 oktober 2015 geeft David Allen een unieke masterclass in Nederland. Zie www.managementboek.nl/davidallen voor meer informatie.
I love this video but it seems incomplete I need more guidance
Read his book it changed my life
Ok so say i write all the thing down how do i know. Wich too do first?
Türkçesi nerede
Genetically
AAAjMMMiRRR 😂😂😂thank you
Systemise & bring Awareness to our Evolutionary Natural Success Processes ! :-) ... Repeat What Works ! :-)
Seems great on the surface, but it feels like a doorway (funnel) to shelling out money to get to a deeper understanding. Seminars, webinars, private coaching. Not sure a simple method would need all that. Not sure even this needs all that.
get the book for a few bucks and its all there, no need for anything else. but its harder, thats why there are workshops and coaching, some people really need help, and need it fast.
MisterMannerisms Nope, for once, there are no more programs.
10:09 pun intended? :)
I like this video but I heard that this was a cult. It doesn't seem too culty to me. I guess that's the point though.
Lol. A cult!? Wtf! Lol lol lol....
Disagree.
An idea grew into a business, and businesses have to survive via sales and profit.
No wrong.
Serious value here.
What he has to say is helpful and important. However, his charisma is kind of lame, I got bored pretty easily
i am very sleepy watching this. he's probably saying brilliant things but his voice isn't very engaging at all, or i should say his delivery.
Did he just say evolution? How does he think the world works so well together if it was evolution. Creation has made everything as well as the unanswered things that we can’t figure out yet. Certainly man did not make this world because he would’ve messed it up really badly.
Big fan of David Allen, but this speech does not present his ideas in an understandable way. Better read GTD or any of the short versions that exist on the web.
State of clear. Only 1:39 in and I hear Scientology.
Boring. True, but boring.
complete waste of time . still general talking
4:50 If we could stop attributing every human tendency to the evolution myth, that would be great.
Sorry, but if you plan on learning from intelligent educated people then you are stuck with evolution.
Evolution the fact, and evolution the theory that is the foundation of modern biology and medicine.
Bloody, bloody, blah, blah, blah. Initially you would think this is a great useful practical stuff. Actually, no, generic, generalist-ic, without connection to your real life, real tasks, real priorities, real management of things.
And, I cannot help myself, I do not know why, some other speeches are exciting, taking you all in it, on David Allen's speeches I found myself falling asleep. ALWAYS. I wonder why this happens...
+Jack Worth I'm not saying I know the answer to you falling asleep, BUT usually I got sleepy when somebody else was doing problem solving for me, there's an issue my subconscious didn't want to deal with. When that somebody explained that, all sleepiness was gone.
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I disagree, of course it's generalistic, it's fundamentally a structure for how to plan, and people plan in ALL different types of scenarios. It's utility I find is when I come across difficult tasks where I'm overwhelmed by a mix of emotions, using a structure like this delineates exactly what emotions I'm feeling and why, and then quickly focuses all those emotions so as to quickly tackle the task.
It's a good structure for how to plan.
It's not entertainment, It's education. You might need to cultivate the discipline to focus on things for a period that are not immediately gratifying but pay off ten fold in the long run
Howard Stern brought me here - but I quickly left because this is BS.
Which bit was BS?
Not before leaving dead weight in the comments section