Just for reference since I didn't talk about it in the video really at all, they made it so you can no longer use Return to Zero in stun, and reduced the time that you're stuck in the counter, with the trade off of having the counter instantly activate, and having a lower Cooldown. Skill Points were also slightly reduced at some point afaik.
If you think about it, making RTZ unable to be used in hitstun might be a blessing in disguise since as long as you spam the key while getting attacked, eventually it'll desummon the enemy's stand and give you a free barrage, leading to potentially more DMG than pre-nerf bail-out-of-combo RTZ Oh and also RTZ actually stuns people properly now if used to cancel a time/dimensional move so I see this as an absolute win
@@JSt3pz I like to think that uni reset = infinite acceleration, and you can't really return to zero the infinite because infinite doesn't have a "zero" you can return to, so that'd be the "canon" reason. Out of universe it's just balancing
I used ger recently and to be honest I don't know why people complained lmao, it still feels fun and half decent, they just nerfed counter stun (universal anywayd lmao) and the rtz doesn't stun anymore but it's still combat viable edit: I also noticed "Murder mode" no longer buffs heal but that's fine since any actual ger user can utilize it in combat anyways
I find it funny how at the beginning of the video eclipse is like "you can still use ger and get things done with it" type stuff while casually dealing half the KQBTD's hp
The small hotboxes bug is on roblox's part, it's a problem in a few games. The only way I could see to patch it would be to add dev created character customization (think games like the wild west, where your in-game model is separate from your avatar).
Before the nerf, if you had pluck there was a really tight combo off of counter that stand crashed(assuming sturdiness 1) and did half their health, but they removed that and now you can barely even get a few m1s. (The combo was thrust-life beam-pierce strike-barrage-triple pierce-m1s) I almost never successfully pulled it off but the few times I did the enemies either died or ragequit
I played ger for a few days and I genuinely enjoyed it. Still don't know why people don't like it this stand has great moves and requires a bit of skills to hit your summon moves. But awakening is op and rtz is good
Everyone hates Ger since most of the teamers and rkers uses them, Which is why you can find KQ BTD when someone is fighting a Ger which is the only stand that can deal with Ger
“I’m too quick on the draw my guy!” Quick on the draw doesn’t necessarily mean fast, while there is a common misconception that it(the phrase) originated from the Wild West, meaning fast when it comes to shooting/pulling your gun. “Quick on the draw” actually refers to hot-headed people in those times that would be quick to challenge you to a duel, even over the smallest things. Yes yes, I know, throw as many of these “🤓” at me as you’d like.
In my opinion this update the rtz in stun thing got traded for a frame one counter and a more reliable rtz which completely stuns people if they use time related moves. Imo it got buffed and is not just good for 1v1s but is hella overpowered for 2v2s and sbr. You can run GER hamon and have a teammate with a freely time stopping stand and instantly one shot your opponents with awakened life forms while they're stuck in a cutscene.
GER might be the most braindead stand You have a basically half health heal, a counter, and a move you can use when someone runs at you to just get a free barrage as well as A MODE THAT HEALS I know it's like "the most op stand in jojo" but DYAM
@@kaelpab what, why? even tho its not canon, dont act like he said something stupid cuz hes right. also how in the world is ger braindead, its good but only in a skilled players hands, thats why all the top lb players use it. give ger to a button mashing player, they wont do shit
@@DaRealEaze EoH is an alternative continuity at best, highly likely that it's non-canon (because if it was canon, Jotaro would've figured out that Pucci is a threat because he had memories of the whole thing)
Hah you should see Scary monsters fought a sm and he can freely barrage me and move back while I’m barraging. The hitboxes are stupid it needs a huge nerf
The only real nerf is removing the cheese of RTZ bailing you out of any combo (like pilot barrages) and counter having less stun (for better cooldown and startup) and the minimum skilltree cost got reduced from 50 something down to 40 something
It's basically a buff cause before u couldn't rely on the spec (u didn't have enough skill points) UNLESS u didn't get max vitality, with this rework u can now rely on your spec more, people cannot move when they're on the rtz cutscene and your counter will work EVERYTIME someone hits u while you're using it Edit: u can rely on ur spec more cause the skill points usage was reduced with more than 10 skill points (that's much better ngl)
what if jjba games were true to the canon and timestop movement between timestop stands were equal to the amount of seconds you have in your timestop, triggered by timestopping during a timestop
I don't think uzu can patch the small character thing cause it works in almost every roblox game. For example small character models let you dodge bullets in jailbreak. The only way I can think of is a phantom forces approach with forces everyone into the same character models.
Please suggest this to uzu as I can't contact paragon or uzu. I don't even want any credit I just want to play the game I love on a high/competent level These are the suggestions for mobile support 1. Make it so that m1 and M2 and stand summon is more like stand moves or spec moves, as these moves come out instantly as soon as you press the button (ex: stand jump, ts, cw, etc.) This will help mobile's overall responsiveness by a lot as the current one we have is that you have to press and take your finger off of the m1 or m2 or stand on button to actually come out. 2. Make the block button like how barrage works on mobile, basically you press and hold to barrage or inhale, because of this barrage and inhale come out almost instantly after you hold it. If this can be implemented in blocking (for mobile) this would increase the overall responsiveness on mobile and so that you can actually parry. I'm not a coder by any means but I do know some and you have done the 2 things for the stand and spec moves I suggest you to do these on the normal m1, M2, block, stand summon, etc 3. Fixing dash (if possible) it's been years since dash has been fixed on mobile. Dashing is a vital element in either retreating or attacking/continuing combos. Feel free to give any suggestions
I’ve been hearing quite a lot of Pokémon tracks in your videos. Maybe you could try playing a Pokémon game like Legends Arceus on video or try the Roblox Pokémon game, Loomian Legacy?
I may have a tiny avatar, but it’s not for the hit box, it’s just because it’s funny to see some random dude half your size using a sword 3x his size, Anubis is funny wotu it
Last I checked, if a c-moon ragdolled you with surface inversion punch while you were in upercut to the moon, you could block after the ragdoll. They might have fixed it though.
I think the small hitboxes issue is a problem stricly because the game uses r15 animations. Because there are much more articulation points on the character models, the sizes have to be adjusted to compensate compared to r6 where it's all the same size by default. It would be an extensive and honestly not a very worthwhile process to make it so all the body parts have a standard size.
Hey eclipse I have a suggestion for a vid. Sm. This stand is riddled with bugs and only 1 move works as it should. I think it would be fun to see you play a stand with that many bugs and maybe draw attention from the devs because right now it’s almost unplayable.
I doubt you'll see this but thanks Eclipse. Just put my loving dog down about an hour ago so this distraction was really nice... Thank you so much, even if I was hoping for Tarkov shenanigans
Eyes of canon isn’t canon lol so that doesn’t count. In canon, Giorno doesn’t know about Ger’s abilities but in eyes of heaven, he knows ger’s abilities which doesn’t make sense so that’s BS.
rtz didnt work on reality overwrite since rtz stops a persons thoughts from becoming actions while overwrite turns a users thoughts to reality so even if they remain as thoughts the ability still activates I assume ger would be able to stop anything else from twoh besides reality overwrite based stuff
@@JSt3pz EoH isn't canon but still put Heaven Ascended abilities against the Requiem ability in the same scenario as if it was canon So it would make sense if GER's RTZ didn't work on TWOH's ts But then again RTZ got cancelled due to reality overwriting, whicb activates with the fists... quite the predicament.
![[YBA] So, They Buffed Gold Experience](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4CPAnS8qAlQ/mqdefault.jpg)
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Just for reference since I didn't talk about it in the video really at all, they made it so you can no longer use Return to Zero in stun, and reduced the time that you're stuck in the counter, with the trade off of having the counter instantly activate, and having a lower Cooldown. Skill Points were also slightly reduced at some point afaik.
In my opinion this is a good rework
ECLIPSE YOU GOTTA TRY ROBLOX IS UNBREAKABLE, IT CAN OVERTHROW YBA IF YOU BOOST IT WITH A VID TRUST ME
its like yba if the owner actually gave a shit to his game
for now the pvp's wanky but its their first release
ECLIPSE AOT EVOLOUTION CAME OUT
You should play horror games. Would love to see that.
Iron lung, SCP secret lab and containment breach, FNAF help wanted
upvote*
Yes we need that
@@calmsquirrel7124 I vouch for iron lung fr
He already had played a horror game, subnautica
If you think about it, making RTZ unable to be used in hitstun might be a blessing in disguise since as long as you spam the key while getting attacked, eventually it'll desummon the enemy's stand and give you a free barrage, leading to potentially more DMG than pre-nerf bail-out-of-combo RTZ
Oh and also RTZ actually stuns people properly now if used to cancel a time/dimensional move so I see this as an absolute win
If that happens ger will be op right?
@@sthrub that has already happened
no way ecs member actually makes a good point that's crazy
nah animal moves still slow down like a brick and havent been changed at all. ger is literally just for defence now
@@sthrub ger is already op, especially if the person that uses it is skilled
I love that during the match with the c-moon eclipses character was just constantly pumping the ground
"pumping the ground" 🤨ayo
Why u gotta word it like that
@@lost863 cuz that’s what happened
Dude was making love to the ground😂
Man was gawk gawk the ground
"So they nerfed GER" - proceeds to commit genocide
Genocide Experience Requiem
Golden genocide requiem
casually watching this man go absolutely insane with a overpowered awakening and bullying every other stand
1:05, rtz puts players into cutscene when using time related moves, and bites the dust reverts time, so its a time manipulating albility
Why not uni reset then
@@JSt3pz good point, but mih could not time accel like ever, which is a big disadvantage, so yeah
@@JSt3pz because time Accel isn’t an insta win button
@@JSt3pz I like to think that uni reset = infinite acceleration, and you can't really return to zero the infinite because infinite doesn't have a "zero" you can return to, so that'd be the "canon" reason. Out of universe it's just balancing
@@shelfer1324 Infinity has a start, though. That's why it can be reverted back.
they buffed RTZ's cutscene so that you can't move in its stun anymore... it's brutal
Yooo first?
Bro ur Channel is sp*rm waste
I still beat the living out of people normally
It was fixed, not buffed.
@@aqz7603 however, fixing the move retroactively buffed the stand
The part where you cancelled his BTD with ur RTZ is just so cool
bro i didnt even know RTZ could do that BHAHA
@@staceywalkerpoole same now I know to not btd against a ger
Also GER should be able to cancel Time acceleration since its a time related move
@@odstagent1070 it can cancel time accel but only during the cast time. If you take mih away before the voiceline is finished it will stop accel
@@_mystic_5653 Damn, like pretty much every attack on the game...
There's no extra window like cancelling TS, TE, Dim Hop, etc
his hitbox got so small at 7:40 that eclipse can never hit him again
I used ger recently and to be honest I don't know why people complained lmao, it still feels fun and half decent, they just nerfed counter stun (universal anywayd lmao) and the rtz doesn't stun anymore but it's still combat viable
edit: I also noticed "Murder mode" no longer buffs heal but that's fine since any actual ger user can utilize it in combat anyways
I find it funny how at the beginning of the video eclipse is like "you can still use ger and get things done with it" type stuff while casually dealing half the KQBTD's hp
The small hotboxes bug is on roblox's part, it's a problem in a few games. The only way I could see to patch it would be to add dev created character customization (think games like the wild west, where your in-game model is separate from your avatar).
the ger "nerf" is more like a buff cuz u can do it right at the last segond to punish u oponent
Before the nerf, if you had pluck there was a really tight combo off of counter that stand crashed(assuming sturdiness 1) and did half their health, but they removed that and now you can barely even get a few m1s. (The combo was thrust-life beam-pierce strike-barrage-triple pierce-m1s)
I almost never successfully pulled it off but the few times I did the enemies either died or ragequit
try landing it in a player (more than 2 braincells required) (alt key working)
@@__atum that is too much to ask for a yba player
The extreme amount of editing in this video is so amazing. You really went all out. Thank you :D
I played ger for a few days and I genuinely enjoyed it. Still don't know why people don't like it this stand has great moves and requires a bit of skills to hit your summon moves. But awakening is op and rtz is good
Everyone hates Ger since most of the teamers and rkers uses them, Which is why you can find KQ BTD when someone is fighting a Ger which is the only stand that can deal with Ger
@@bonebreakingmarathon6550 oh no, not the rkers!!!!!!!!
@@tuyoufpazic5746 can ya explain? They just say it the rker
GER is hella annoying bro nerf it
@@ShadowSMZ it already got nerfed.....u want them to make the stand completely useless
0:41 idk why this hyped me up but dam thats sick
MY MAN USED MARIO STRIKERS CHARGED LUIGI'S ENTRANCE THEME AS THE BACKGROUND MUSIC
You've made my day eclipse.
New eclipse video and I’m happy!!! Great video and keep up the great work. You should try ger vamp, I find it fun
Have you seen the whole video yet?
Yeah
I’m talking about like great video idea
@@skully5777 Hmmmmmm, also are you a patreon member?
No
"At the end of the day, you still have Murder Mode! Murder Mode's cool. Who doesn't want Murder Mode?"
-Eclipse, 2022
Eclipse, a quick tip is
If a c-moon uses Y+T you can block before you get slammed down
No you can't
Exactly
7:48 god damn bro I have never seen eclipse this salty before
1:37 I love how the music ended just as the player reset
Build or bust idea: Six pistols spin. Cheese.
I heard Luigis theme from Mario Strikers Charged playing and Immediately began smiling
Did you know that Tarkov has stands? My favourite one is called the MP-18 and I think you should do a review on it. No I'm not going to stop.
“I’m too quick on the draw my guy!”
Quick on the draw doesn’t necessarily mean fast, while there is a common misconception that it(the phrase) originated from the Wild West, meaning fast when it comes to shooting/pulling your gun. “Quick on the draw” actually refers to hot-headed people in those times that would be quick to challenge you to a duel, even over the smallest things.
Yes yes, I know, throw as many of these “🤓” at me as you’d like.
okay, but the saying sounds cool and is flexible in wordage so whatev
🧐
It's funny how when you explain stuff there will be a dude who will reply need emoji
interesting
Its literally just a slang give it a rest
ECLIPSE YOU MAD MAN. STARTING OFF WITH LUIGI’S THEME FROM MARIO STRIKERS
The fact they reduced skill points for ger and not TWOH yet.
dude you playing SCP:Secret Lab would be amazing lol. i think your personality would go great with the game
They sorta buffed it cuz the cutscene lets you use awakening and Hamon with scorpion barrage (does more than half hp)
The theme on the second match gives me PTSD (those who play Pokemon will understand)
1:12 It scares me to think how plus on block he was right here.
Awakened life beam with hamon does like 23 per scorpion btw so ger is very balanced
69 dmg
“Obviously that worked it was all part of the plan” 😂
POV: rare video of mark suckerberg playing yba hahaha
i'm just kinding, please don't forget to breathe
To be honest I think this makes GER much more fun and consistent to use, feels more polished
It really only took making the counter frame 1 for me.
This is more like a FIX for GER cuz i think GER are plan not to use RTZ in stun and people should get stun and cant move in the cutscene
First hehehehehaw, also the editing is super! Great job
0:40 That was amazing lol
i adored the first match in terms of editing you nailed that
0:40 best part
dude if they made small characters have invisible hitboxes that would be fucking hilarious seeing them scream when things that shouldn't hit them hit
Changing my outfit didnt realize someone would copy me and run around as a guest.
i tried to fight joe but didnt reset for vitality so you know how that went
You see, GER used the return to zero ability to revert the nerfs
I was literally thinking about telling you to make a GER video lmao
"So, they nerfed GER?" Proceeds to massacre people in 1v1s
In my opinion this update the rtz in stun thing got traded for a frame one counter and a more reliable rtz which completely stuns people if they use time related moves. Imo it got buffed and is not just good for 1v1s but is hella overpowered for 2v2s and sbr. You can run GER hamon and have a teammate with a freely time stopping stand and instantly one shot your opponents with awakened life forms while they're stuck in a cutscene.
YBA Nerfing the worst requiem in the game
Nah kqbtd is worse
Plus GER was nerfed multiple times in a row where KQBTD didn't have major balance fixes.
@@bizarreman1989 ok kqbtd is still worse lol
kqbtd is literally barely worth using, it's just an arrow stand with a new funky move
@@Brandon-ct8vo exactly
GER might be the most braindead stand
You have a basically half health heal, a counter, and a move you can use when someone runs at you to just get a free barrage as well as A MODE THAT HEALS I know it's like "the most op stand in jojo" but DYAM
Ger isn't the most op stand in JoJo twoh is since it can rewrite reality
@@DaRealEaze I'm not responding to this...
@@kaelpab what, why? even tho its not canon, dont act like he said something stupid cuz hes right. also how in the world is ger braindead, its good but only in a skilled players hands, thats why all the top lb players use it. give ger to a button mashing player, they wont do shit
@@DaRealEaze you need to learn the facts
@@DaRealEaze EoH is an alternative continuity at best, highly likely that it's non-canon (because if it was canon, Jotaro would've figured out that Pucci is a threat because he had memories of the whole thing)
Hah you should see Scary monsters fought a sm and he can freely barrage me and move back while I’m barraging. The hitboxes are stupid it needs a huge nerf
should only be nerfed if they fix sm being bugged by so many stands
The only real nerf is removing the cheese of RTZ bailing you out of any combo (like pilot barrages) and counter having less stun (for better cooldown and startup) and the minimum skilltree cost got reduced from 50 something down to 40 something
It's basically a buff cause before u couldn't rely on the spec (u didn't have enough skill points) UNLESS u didn't get max vitality, with this rework u can now rely on your spec more, people cannot move when they're on the rtz cutscene and your counter will work EVERYTIME someone hits u while you're using it
Edit: u can rely on ur spec more cause the skill points usage was reduced with more than 10 skill points (that's much better ngl)
"That was all part of the plan!"
Eclipse is Aizen confirmed
GE 7 page muda beatdown is also amazing since they cant do anything and the damage is really high (as long as they arent near max hp)
what if jjba games were true to the canon and timestop movement between timestop stands were equal to the amount of seconds you have in your timestop, triggered by timestopping during a timestop
I don't think uzu can patch the small character thing cause it works in almost every roblox game. For example small character models let you dodge bullets in jailbreak. The only way I can think of is a phantom forces approach with forces everyone into the same character models.
No because games can force you to be a certain width and height
Please suggest this to uzu as I can't contact paragon or uzu. I don't even want any credit I just want to play the game I love on a high/competent level
These are the suggestions for mobile support
1. Make it so that m1 and M2 and stand summon is more like stand moves or spec moves, as these moves come out instantly as soon as you press the button (ex: stand jump, ts, cw, etc.) This will help mobile's overall responsiveness by a lot as the current one we have is that you have to press and take your finger off of the m1 or m2 or stand on button to actually come out.
2. Make the block button like how barrage works on mobile, basically you press and hold to barrage or inhale, because of this barrage and inhale come out almost instantly after you hold it. If this can be implemented in blocking (for mobile) this would increase the overall responsiveness on mobile and so that you can actually parry.
I'm not a coder by any means but I do know some and you have done the 2 things for the stand and spec moves I suggest you to do these on the normal m1, M2, block, stand summon, etc
3. Fixing dash (if possible) it's been years since dash has been fixed on mobile. Dashing is a vital element in either retreating or attacking/continuing combos.
Feel free to give any suggestions
oh my god, the god tier stand that I main has been slightly nerfed and still remains on top!1?1!?1
this is unacceptable I'll go dox uzu.
I’ve been hearing quite a lot of Pokémon tracks in your videos. Maybe you could try playing a Pokémon game like Legends Arceus on video or try the Roblox Pokémon game, Loomian Legacy?
The next build or bust suggestion: TWOH + Spin.
It’s really good and you can confirm reality overwrite you should try it out and see it for yourself.
Might try this when i get twoh which is close im 1 kill on the 50
eclipse trying to find ger nerfs remind me of trying to find my dad
I may have a tiny avatar, but it’s not for the hit box, it’s just because it’s funny to see some random dude half your size using a sword 3x his size, Anubis is funny wotu it
Last I checked, if a c-moon ragdolled you with surface inversion punch while you were in upercut to the moon, you could block after the ragdoll. They might have fixed it though.
0:40 made my day
It's good that the explosion of the kq well not drop my fps now.
I think the small hitboxes issue is a problem stricly because the game uses r15 animations. Because there are much more articulation points on the character models, the sizes have to be adjusted to compensate compared to r6 where it's all the same size by default.
It would be an extensive and honestly not a very worthwhile process to make it so all the body parts have a standard size.
A ger makes u lost a live
The ger user:time to end this man hope career
MURDER MODE
"murder mode" LOL😂😂
"murder mode is cool"
-eclipse
Nerfed? BUFFED!
0:46 Eclipse with the shit tier subtitles let’s go 🤝
But why :(
actually, a mod was probably beaten by it in 1v1’s.
im still waiting for "so....they buffed c moon"
Its been nearly a whole month and Uzu has not reverted C Moon buff, wtf
hi i love your vids! keep up the great content.
Eclipse saying good things about ger?!? Impossible
Really the only nerf is they removed the awakened heal
4:00 yep definitely... definitely did
continue making vids on non meta stands being broken i love this i finally see some stands that arent the usual ts users
Hey eclipse I have a suggestion for a vid. Sm. This stand is riddled with bugs and only 1 move works as it should. I think it would be fun to see you play a stand with that many bugs and maybe draw attention from the devs because right now it’s almost unplayable.
just seeing eclipse laugh makes my day
So thy nerfed ger Me: proccedes to get 0-deathed with a barrage and bird
Bro was that you in the video? Upgrade vitality dude
I doubt you'll see this but thanks Eclipse. Just put my loving dog down about an hour ago so this distraction was really nice... Thank you so much, even if I was hoping for Tarkov shenanigans
tbh i think ger got buffed more than nerfed. Im most happy about its skill points cost decrease.
They should make it so that the small hitbox avatar should make the user’s hitbox larger lol
This dude played Ballad of the Godess in the final match. Hit me in the feels.
imagine if Ger's return to zero dont work on twoh just like Eyes of Heaven.
Eyes of canon isn’t canon lol so that doesn’t count. In canon, Giorno doesn’t know about Ger’s abilities but in eyes of heaven, he knows ger’s abilities which doesn’t make sense so that’s BS.
rtz didnt work on reality overwrite since rtz stops a persons thoughts from becoming actions while overwrite turns a users thoughts to reality so even if they remain as thoughts the ability still activates I assume ger would be able to stop anything else from twoh besides reality overwrite based stuff
Yeah it’s not canon but still twoh was able to bypass rtz so
@@JSt3pz EoH isn't canon but still put Heaven Ascended abilities against the Requiem ability in the same scenario as if it was canon
So it would make sense if GER's RTZ didn't work on TWOH's ts
But then again RTZ got cancelled due to reality overwriting, whicb activates with the fists...
quite the predicament.
@@JSt3pz Jackass what part of the word "imagine" do you not fucking understand?
Oh music from Mario strikers charged
Even with the nerf ger is still good i main ger before and after the update all u need is being fast now and predict a bit *and spam some moves*
What if eclipse did sticky fingers bingo, and one of the points was “win with only zipper punch” or “win with only extend arm”
0:41 menacing
I hate that ge now heals as much as ger
Still wondering on why it doesn't also put an MiH on cutscene when I cancel their Time Accel
Bro eclipse beat the c moon so hard that their avatar changed lol
3:54 blame uzu for not caring
At this point,I have just left yba since the update. It's a great game but wasted opportunity at the same time
new facecam? it seems your quality has gotten better