let’s be real here, you could basically pick any video by any youtuber and it would be more interesting than any of these movies. they are not very good!
@@Pat12379 Probably because someone at the top wanted general audiences (who don't know any better) to be excited that it might be connected to the MCU.
And this is why Hollywood has, and will continue to, push out absolute shit movies, with even less effort than the bare minimun.. Because people continue to accept that as, not only standard, but (somehow) "enjoyable". And I realize that you likely say this in jest (fully, or partially, I can't say), that's not lost on me. However, it absolutely does reflect the sentiments of a large majority of moviegoers, and consumers of media in general.
hunts them and then gains some of that species' abilities? and in the end, realizes the error of his ways, gathers 5 special children from different parts of the world, gives them each a magic ring that will summon him wherever they are, and he kills all the bad guys around the world that do harm to the planet.
In the trailer he says he hunts “men like you” as he stands in front of an evil man. So maybe he doesn’t hunt animals??? I think he has some link to animals and wouldn’t want to hurt them???
@hunterfogleman7443 Eh, I mean of all of Spider-Man's villains (other than Venom obviously) Kraven's probably the one that'd work best as an anti hero.
@@TommFoolery Yeah its easy enough to spin even OG Kraven as ultimately just interested in the hunt, the morality or lack of it wouldn't necessarily come into it.
@@TonyB2279Man, the utter insanity of this coment without context. It's hard to believe that's actually the explanation they're going with. Hopefully they will try to make it less dumb in the actual movie, but I can't say I expect anything from them at this point.
I just now realize that the prisoner swap happens at the bathroom break. That must be why the turnaround is so dramatic like that. At the end of the 8 minutes the guards find the body of the real prisoner who Kraven impersonated.
I'm confused--isn't kraven's whole deal that he HUNTS animals? Not befriends them? I thought Sony took out the animal friends cause everybody hated it.
honestly, a savage hunter who's so cold-blooded that even when he can interact with animals as friends and command them and he STILL wants to be the biggest game hunter and goes insane with ego to the point where hunts people who resemble animals sounds like a fun movie, id like to see a movie about the fall of a superpowered animal russian Aquaman (like someone else in the comments said) due to his own ego but I bet sony will just make him a good guy and his whole deal with spiderman would be as shallow and stupid as batman v superman if they can even get spiderman on board again I mean
Yeah like the path from hunting animals to superpowered animal people while still able to interact with animals and understand their pain needs like a level of self absorption that can make for a great movie where kraven is egotistical but kind at the beginning maybe but it amplifies to the point he just hunts and is an instinctual maniac like the Spiderman show but Sony never had real balls with their Spiderman movies always playing it safe because to be honest making a movie about a man who can understand the pain of the animals yet still hunts for fun sounds like an box office bomb with the general audience
My biggest problem with this movie is it means we aren't likely to get a Kraven in the MCU anytime soon. I would have loved for the next spiderman movie to have him. I do think this will be the best Sony spiderman movie in this stupid universe (aside from venom 1), but I feel like all of these movies unnecessarily limit the better MCU movies.
Marvel needs to regain these rights. Casuals don't seem to understand that Sony's marvel movies are not the MCU. And this slop does more damage to the MCU when every movie comes out and is terrible
And, tell me, has Disney not been doing enough damage on their own? These movies are slop. Period. They've devolved to such a degree that there's nothing to enjoy. Both of these universes represent the worst of studio meddling at this point. Might as well stop hiring directors and writers because they're barely even movies. Just made by committee junk cobbled together from disparate parts Attack of the Clones style. The only exception since Endgame (which is not very good, either) is Guardians 3 but it was obvious Disney would do anything just to have Gunn back to finish that wonderful trilogy.
thing is, the "please let marvel get the rights back" doesn't really have the same bite anymore, no matter the property you may be referencing. we're well into the era of a quality mcu project being a sure thing... well, in no way whatsoever being a sure thing. they're becoming as hit or miss as anyone else
Something I noticed on my Venom trilogy binge and I included M.Web finally, these really seemed to be geared toward "bros" more than anything I've ever. Its just so obvious they have some character rights and are just trying to boil down an exact audience who would enjoy those characters and decided "bros". Anyone here a "bro" or know a "bro" who finds these to be the best things ever made?
Stopped this video to watch the actual preview and...it is edited to hell, feels very choppy, like they've shredded something that was originally at least 15 minutes down to 8. Also, his climbing bugs me because there's a difference between looking effortless and looking weightless, and the way he moves makes him float too much (probably due to wires), rather than looking like he's pulling himself up. I do wonder about the animal aspect - I remember the negative reaction to the idea that Kraven would have animal telepathy or such powers, and wonder if the Sony execs decided to excise that stuff and just focus on "guy with animalistic powers" in hopes that'd perform better, but it might've just moved it from "goofy but entertaining" to more "dull generic action".
“We are all craving Kraven”... I wasn’t, but I am now! Wordplay is my weakness... damn you Nando!! damn you and your wordplay!! (Happy Friday all you internet humans)
Yea, something was missing, shots that last longer than a few seconds in a lot of scenes lol made it feel like a few seconds instead of 8 minutes its kinda fun looking tho Ur idea makes sense I was so confused how they enter and immediately exited the snowstorm lol
I still can't get over the audacity of people thinking it's OK johnson was groomed as a teenager by a 40 year old woman into a lifelong romantic relationship and no one kicked up a stink. If the genders were reversed people would still be talking about it today. It's all so gross.
Size. That whole scene should have played out in crowded halls with scores of extras…. like the escape scene in Black Widow. Since it’s R. Kraven starting a riot for kicks may have added to his villian status.
The penguin es la prueba de que se puede hacer un proyecto de un villano sin su héroe el problema es que los de Sony no quieren buscar a alguien de la talla de matt Reeves o James gunn para su universo cinematográfico tenían a los de directores de spiderverse pero los hecharon
Probably to remove animal power sequences. Cause I’ve seen many complain about that when it was in the trailer so Sony probably listened and removed it. Mando is the sole person I’ve seen who likes the animal sequence
Why do you want something to succeed from a studio that repeatedly displays an inability to let creatives make a movie? Let alone embrace what they are adapting or make it make sense. You haven't seen this, neither have I. Sony Pictures doesn't deserve success, it has to earn it with quality
@ agree to disagree. Kraven has always been one of my favorite characters from Marvel so I’m biased to begin with. My point was that the movie has already failed bc people didn’t like the Venom trilogy (and rightly Morbius and Madame Web). I’m not ashamed to say I enjoyed Venom and Let There Be Carnage, they did indeed drop the ball with the other movies. Most people didn’t like the Venom movies because they didn’t have Spider-Man not bc of anything else and that’s what I’m arguing. “It doesn’t have Spider-Man… I don’t like it” They don’t him. I don’t care what anyone says. Tell me a storyline besides Kraven’s Last Hunt that NEEDS Spider-Man? Now do i agree that he should be a PETA John Wick? We don’t know if he is. I hope they play it yo as him respecting the animals before killing. Hunters don’t like poachers. I’m just looking forward to some good kills. I don’t need it to connect to an overarching universe and I will agree that Marvel even early 2000s Marvel is at fault for everything having to connect. Put it like this, if Kraven was it’s on solo film (as it should be), no one would be complaining. TLDR: because I like Kraven and fan complaints do play a part in film’s having presumptions. It should be its own solo movie, though.
I'm not sure how UA-cam works, but my hope is that they cut the part with the wolves so they could upload it for a wider audience, but they still show up in the theatrical version.
the shot at the end when it's revealed Kraven killed the prisoner during the bathroom break makes the scene intro'ing him make a lot more sense, and reveals his "Hunter" moniker is well-worn. Also, the scene where he jump-scares a guard... that's called a sneak attack, and the guard would have shot him if he saw him immediately in the room. Idk, I feel like these takes were so nit-picky just so you could shoe-horn what YOU think the first 8, yes 8, minutes of the film should have been. Weird video is all. My problem with the the clip is that the colors are so muted.
I mean this movie is guaranteed to be hot garbage and a complete waste of time and money for both audiences and the studio, i cant imagine looking at these first 8min and thinking “this movies gonna be soooo cool.” Their have been a ton of freaking excellent movies this year that barely anyone seems to have gone to so i pray to all the powers of the multiverse that this movie doesnt somehow get an audience but then their were people who thought zack snyder made good dc films so clearly their are a lot of broken brains out there.
The reveal of Kraven in the gas scene is serviced when they find the frozen corpse. It shows how Kraven infiltrated the prison. Nothing missing, just paying off the scene.
Its ironic that so many previously-not-really superpowered guys do seemingly superpowered things could, in some other universe, just be handwaved as "oh theyre latent Mutants now"
I really hope they go full Squirrel Girl by the end where he's taking his revenge way too far. Jumping out of trees to attack dudes fishing in a pond..
Its kinda late at this point, but I think the Spider-Man villain movies couldve worked if they showed a Spider-Man story from the villains POV. The villain is the protagonist & we just see Spidey show up in the fight scenes to stop them & is this kind of unstoppable obstacle thats getting in the way of the villain & taunts/harasses them which pisses them off & causes them to escalate the situation. Make the movies kind of a tragedy where the protagonists lose & have the same Spidey throughout them. Even build to a Sinister Six? Theres a way to make the Villian Movie work without turning them all into Anti-Heroes
They released the first eight minutes of now you see me when it was released which I thought was pretty good because it really got you captured into what the movie was about
We might also know Kraven from "Spider-man: Turn Off The Dark" in which he is a man wearing a big distorted man-head over his own head. Maybe he skinned another hunter?
but you didn't have a problem with Kraven from the latest spider-man game? What animal powers did he have that kept you entertained? Also, @8:18 based on the zoom in I took it as a movie metaphor being "he is the wolf". But maybe I'm giving this thing too much credit
I feel like they cut some scenes from Kraven The Hunter. I sure hope they are included in the Blu-ray or DVD. However, I don't mind it than watching the MCU films.
I didn't watch the first 8 minutes but I'm still interested in seeing this film.Unlike previous Sony films what I read about Kraven is he's like Black cat a character that doesn't really need Spiderman.
Def a weird thing for Sony to do, like I would expect something like this when the movie hits digital or streaming. Also, will they do this for MCU!Spider-Man 4?
I really hope the rights are returned to Marvel studios, But i really hope this movie is atleast enjoyable like the john wick movies, which is a huge ask due to the recent fucked up track record of sony(except venom).
i like what the filmmakers are doing with this film, they're making a grounded gritty film about a character that does have a crazy fantastical ability. i think that the film not being "dumb" enough is a good thing because it makes the story have more merit. people wanted dumb funny films is what is hurting Sony cause they clearly aren't good at that so going for a much different approach I'll feel can work, even if it isn't the greatest of films i think people can come back to appreciate the story and tone of this film. hopefully it does well
I'm gonna disagree about him not having obvious superpowers. I felt like that might be the case at the start, but he shows at *least* two instances of superhuman strength (lifting the men and the weight bar at the same time and ripping back the steel bars enclosing the roof area during his escape). He also makes a huge jump across buildings that is a little beyond the realm of believability for a regular human, as well as countless instances of superhuman agility. I agree, though, that if Sony decided to tone down the comic book nature of this then they made a mistake. I'm hoping that this was just edited for brevity's sake.
9:23 Umm people made fun of that power in the first trailer. Saying that’s not comic accurate. So I don’t blame them for removing it. It’s always the fans complaints that make those changes. So you’re welcome.
Did anyone else see the terrible Henry Cavill style mouth replacement Arron Taylor Johnson got when he was meant to speak russian into the camera? In one scene he's barely moving his lips and the voice is clearly ADR by a Russian speaker , but in another he's speaking himself but it's all CGI or deep fake.
They didn’t learn from spectacular spiderman when kraven had powers. Now he don’t turn into a lion in the movie but the point is kraven is so skilled he don’t need powers.
You know, if it were announced that Nando, and/or the Weekly Planet guys, and/or the Red Letter Media crew, had been hired by Marvel or DC simply to PLOT 5 years' worth of superhero movies, I'd be delighted beyond words. They're all pretty humble and self-deprecating, but they're far more skilled at it than 90% of the people who actually DO plot these movies, even when they're working off the cuff (maybe not Nando in this video, but James and Mason at TWP, for instance, improve plots all the time with two or three minutes of impromptu banter). I just don't understand how the actual companies haven't mastered what I'd argue is the *easiest* part of filmmaking ... all you need is a pen, a sense of timing, and a fertile imagination.
The guard never said, "where's Kraven?" He said, "where's prisoner 864?", or whatever his number was. The whole point was that Kraven was not prisoner 864. We see prisoner 864's corpse in the snow later in the scene. The worst part of that eight minutes, to me, was the plane. How did he have a plane just sitting there waiting? How did he know he was going to be out at that time? Did he expect the plane to just sit there for three days? I could have believed it if it had been just a small plane stashed in the woods or something. Not a huge cargo plane with a pilot and running engines just waiting patiently.
I just watched Game of Thrones for the first time and I haven’t rewatched John Wick in a while so I got a jump scared at 12:30 when I remembered that Reek killed John Wicks dog😭
Some of the action in the trailers looked so decent I was starting to worry Sony accidentally made a good SPUMM movie, glad they released this chunk to address those concerns.
I watched this fourteen minute video about kraven instead of the first eight minutes of the actual movie
same
You’re me lol
let’s be real here, you could basically pick any video by any youtuber and it would be more interesting than any of these movies. they are not very good!
SAME 🤣
It’s actually pretty good. You should watch it
Prediction for the post credit scene: Vulture flies down. " So I see you like hunting. Ever hunt a spider?"
Why did they bring vulture in the sony universe
@@Pat12379 Probably because someone at the top wanted general audiences (who don't know any better) to be excited that it might be connected to the MCU.
And it turns out there's not even a post credits at all. Amazing
I love when Kraven killed that guy and his talking jaguar friend looked into the camera and said "That's so Kraven!"
And then he Kraved all over the place?
It's what plants kraven
😆😅😂🤣
Yeah, that was So Kraven
Cue the intro music, complete with jazz saxophone
It's going to be really funny if Kraven is the first SPUMC movie to be not dumb enough.
#IBlameAviArad
I feel like that was Madame Web. There was nothing to joke about in that movie. It was just bad.
@@hunterfogleman7443Dakota Johnson's total lack of enthusiasm and the adr are pretty funny imo
Dumb enough for what?
@@mrschwartzmc for it to be fun, like the Venom movies
If this whole movie is just Aaron Taylor-Johnson doing his best Jason Statham impression with a Russian accent, I won't be mad
You know Aaron's British right
Jason is terrible at doing any accent not his own.
And this is why Hollywood has, and will continue to, push out absolute shit movies, with even less effort than the bare minimun..
Because people continue to accept that as, not only standard, but (somehow) "enjoyable". And I realize that you likely say this in jest (fully, or partially, I can't say), that's not lost on me. However, it absolutely does reflect the sentiments of a large majority of moviegoers, and consumers of media in general.
@@Allison_Chanesthat's goofy lol
I just watched it, meh might be interesting and/or entertaining. I don’t think it was bad tbh.
Nando: "I'm hoping they cut this short for publicity's sake. if they took that out, we're in for a problem."
Me: bruh, we're in for a problem 100%
That's So Kraven: Land Based Russian Aquaman.
affinity for animals would ring hollow from a big game hunter imo
hunts them and then gains some of that species' abilities?
and in the end, realizes the error of his ways, gathers 5 special children from different parts of the world, gives them each a magic ring that will summon him wherever they are, and he kills all the bad guys around the world that do harm to the planet.
@@TheCJRhodessounds like a franchise!
Tribal beliefs about taking in the spirit of the animal you've killed to make you a better hunter have been around for millennia.
@@TheCJRhodesCaptain Kraven, he's a hero!
In the trailer he says he hunts “men like you” as he stands in front of an evil man. So maybe he doesn’t hunt animals??? I think he has some link to animals and wouldn’t want to hurt them???
The moment i saw the guard open the door and Kraven popped up, i immediately thought "...Nando's going to say something about this scene..."
This may be unironically turn out to be the best one
And I still wouldn’t see it. Kraven as an antihero is a stupid idea imo, and Sony clearly has no idea what they’re doing.
@@hunterfogleman7443I heard he’s going to be a full villain by the end of
@hunterfogleman7443 Eh, I mean of all of Spider-Man's villains (other than Venom obviously) Kraven's probably the one that'd work best as an anti hero.
@@TommFoolery Yeah its easy enough to spin even OG Kraven as ultimately just interested in the hunt, the morality or lack of it wouldn't necessarily come into it.
@@TommFoolery Yeahhh true
He ripped open a steel gate to escape... I'd guess he has super powers of some kind
It's that drop of lion's blood that fell into his wound as a kid.
@@TonyB2279Man, the utter insanity of this coment without context. It's hard to believe that's actually the explanation they're going with. Hopefully they will try to make it less dumb in the actual movie, but I can't say I expect anything from them at this point.
At least none of his parents were researching lions in the Sahara when they died
@@grumpysphinx4911 One day Mademoiselle Web will be looked back upon as a cult classic.
@@pedrovallefin8406 not gonna lie, radioactive spiders or gamma bombs also.feel kinda crazy
I could have sworn this movie had already come and gone. Feels like I've been hearing about it forever.
I just now realize that the prisoner swap happens at the bathroom break. That must be why the turnaround is so dramatic like that. At the end of the 8 minutes the guards find the body of the real prisoner who Kraven impersonated.
I’m kraven for the rights revert back to marvel
Lol never happening
You mean Disney?
This is the best comment
So that they can make Kraven twerk?
If yes, I am all in!
Im not seeing anyone kraven for that, or maybe im wrong
I'm confused--isn't kraven's whole deal that he HUNTS animals? Not befriends them? I thought Sony took out the animal friends cause everybody hated it.
While I fully understand that was Kraven in canon, I actually loved the idea of a Beast Master version of the guy with magic animal friends, honestly.
honestly, a savage hunter who's so cold-blooded that even when he can interact with animals as friends and command them and he STILL wants to be the biggest game hunter and goes insane with ego to the point where hunts people who resemble animals sounds like a fun movie, id like to see a movie about the fall of a superpowered animal russian Aquaman (like someone else in the comments said) due to his own ego but I bet sony will just make him a good guy and his whole deal with spiderman would be as shallow and stupid as batman v superman if they can even get spiderman on board again I mean
He did both, like he definitely had animal companions he’d sic on Spider-Man during their battles and shit
Yeah like the path from hunting animals to superpowered animal people while still able to interact with animals and understand their pain needs like a level of self absorption that can make for a great movie where kraven is egotistical but kind at the beginning maybe but it amplifies to the point he just hunts and is an instinctual maniac like the Spiderman show but Sony never had real balls with their Spiderman movies always playing it safe because to be honest making a movie about a man who can understand the pain of the animals yet still hunts for fun sounds like an box office bomb with the general audience
My exact thought - “you know this would actually be a pretty cool opening scene to a Spider Man movie 🫤”
My biggest problem with this movie is it means we aren't likely to get a Kraven in the MCU anytime soon. I would have loved for the next spiderman movie to have him.
I do think this will be the best Sony spiderman movie in this stupid universe (aside from venom 1), but I feel like all of these movies unnecessarily limit the better MCU movies.
How many spiderman movies do you want to see bumo
@@nalday2534 all i really want is beyond the spider-verse and spiderman Homeless
@@nalday2534 not that many - but if Kraven is going to be in a movie it should be a spider man movie not a solo movie lmao
@olivercrespo2329 "should be" says who? You? Who tf do you think you are? How many stories have you told in your entire life?
The cat moment in the beginning just made me a super fan of this channel
Marvel needs to regain these rights. Casuals don't seem to understand that Sony's marvel movies are not the MCU. And this slop does more damage to the MCU when every movie comes out and is terrible
Mcu are doing a great job themselves at damaging the mcu
And, tell me, has Disney not been doing enough damage on their own? These movies are slop. Period. They've devolved to such a degree that there's nothing to enjoy. Both of these universes represent the worst of studio meddling at this point. Might as well stop hiring directors and writers because they're barely even movies. Just made by committee junk cobbled together from disparate parts Attack of the Clones style.
The only exception since Endgame (which is not very good, either) is Guardians 3 but it was obvious Disney would do anything just to have Gunn back to finish that wonderful trilogy.
thing is, the "please let marvel get the rights back" doesn't really have the same bite anymore, no matter the property you may be referencing. we're well into the era of a quality mcu project being a sure thing... well, in no way whatsoever being a sure thing. they're becoming as hit or miss as anyone else
This is not slop.
_Madame Web_ > _Endgame_
_Morbius_ > _Civil War_
_Venom_ > _Infinity War_
@@jarg8 nah. The only MCU movie I still find unwatchable at this point is still limited to Iron Man 3
Something I noticed on my Venom trilogy binge and I included M.Web finally, these really seemed to be geared toward "bros" more than anything I've ever. Its just so obvious they have some character rights and are just trying to boil down an exact audience who would enjoy those characters and decided "bros". Anyone here a "bro" or know a "bro" who finds these to be the best things ever made?
It’s me, I’m the target audience for the Venom movies.
Stopped this video to watch the actual preview and...it is edited to hell, feels very choppy, like they've shredded something that was originally at least 15 minutes down to 8. Also, his climbing bugs me because there's a difference between looking effortless and looking weightless, and the way he moves makes him float too much (probably due to wires), rather than looking like he's pulling himself up.
I do wonder about the animal aspect - I remember the negative reaction to the idea that Kraven would have animal telepathy or such powers, and wonder if the Sony execs decided to excise that stuff and just focus on "guy with animalistic powers" in hopes that'd perform better, but it might've just moved it from "goofy but entertaining" to more "dull generic action".
“We are all craving Kraven”...
I wasn’t, but I am now!
Wordplay is my weakness...
damn you Nando!!
damn you and your wordplay!!
(Happy Friday all you internet humans)
Yea, something was missing, shots that last longer than a few seconds in a lot of scenes lol made it feel like a few seconds instead of 8 minutes
its kinda fun looking tho
Ur idea makes sense I was so confused how they enter and immediately exited the snowstorm lol
Loved it when he said his iconic catch phrase “This is gonna get Kravey”
I'm actually pretty stoked for this movie. I need something I don't have to think at.
Kraven? Rhino? Chameleon? All in one movie? This is gonna be a blast.
So many UA-camrs are completely negative about movies that come out these days it's always so refreshing to hear Nando's Pov.
I still can't get over the audacity of people thinking it's OK johnson was groomed as a teenager by a 40 year old woman into a lifelong romantic relationship and no one kicked up a stink. If the genders were reversed people would still be talking about it today. It's all so gross.
Am I missing something, or wasn't he 18, i.e. an adult, at the time?
@@MisterS.she knew him since before he was 18, and the moment he was of age they got together, he was groomed
@@warlock____ sources I see say they met in 2009, and he himself seems to corroborate the story
So? If they're both consenting and happy what has it got to do with you?
I hope for your sake you do eventually get over it; it’d suck to be stuck on that indefinitely.
Size. That whole scene should have played out in crowded halls with scores of extras…. like the escape scene in Black Widow. Since it’s R. Kraven starting a riot for kicks may have added to his villian status.
The penguin es la prueba de que se puede hacer un proyecto de un villano sin su héroe el problema es que los de Sony no quieren buscar a alguien de la talla de matt Reeves o James gunn para su universo cinematográfico tenían a los de directores de spiderverse pero los hecharon
The worst part is they probably just cut that out because of time or to remove animal power sequences
Probably to remove animal power sequences. Cause I’ve seen many complain about that when it was in the trailer so Sony probably listened and removed it. Mando is the sole person I’ve seen who likes the animal sequence
How is a big game hunter a defender of animals exactly?
Well he kind of doesn’t in the movie. Just against poaching. With hunting he kind of leaves that alone.
I’m pretty sure they cut some parts out. I hope. Really want this movie to succeed but I doubt it will due to the fan base’s presumptions
Why do you want something to succeed from a studio that repeatedly displays an inability to let creatives make a movie? Let alone embrace what they are adapting or make it make sense. You haven't seen this, neither have I. Sony Pictures doesn't deserve success, it has to earn it with quality
@ agree to disagree. Kraven has always been one of my favorite characters from Marvel so I’m biased to begin with. My point was that the movie has already failed bc people didn’t like the Venom trilogy (and rightly Morbius and Madame Web). I’m not ashamed to say I enjoyed Venom and Let There Be Carnage, they did indeed drop the ball with the other movies. Most people didn’t like the Venom movies because they didn’t have Spider-Man not bc of anything else and that’s what I’m arguing. “It doesn’t have Spider-Man… I don’t like it” They don’t him. I don’t care what anyone says. Tell me a storyline besides Kraven’s Last Hunt that NEEDS Spider-Man? Now do i agree that he should be a PETA John Wick? We don’t know if he is. I hope they play it yo as him respecting the animals before killing. Hunters don’t like poachers. I’m just looking forward to some good kills. I don’t need it to connect to an overarching universe and I will agree that Marvel even early 2000s Marvel is at fault for everything having to connect. Put it like this, if Kraven was it’s on solo film (as it should be), no one would be complaining.
TLDR: because I like Kraven and fan complaints do play a part in film’s having presumptions. It should be its own solo movie, though.
2:17 I need Nando to play Kraven the Hunter in the MCU lol
I know Kraven from the hit video game Spider-Man Shattered Dimensions :)
I'm not sure how UA-cam works, but my hope is that they cut the part with the wolves so they could upload it for a wider audience, but they still show up in the theatrical version.
the shot at the end when it's revealed Kraven killed the prisoner during the bathroom break makes the scene intro'ing him make a lot more sense, and reveals his "Hunter" moniker is well-worn. Also, the scene where he jump-scares a guard... that's called a sneak attack, and the guard would have shot him if he saw him immediately in the room. Idk, I feel like these takes were so nit-picky just so you could shoe-horn what YOU think the first 8, yes 8, minutes of the film should have been. Weird video is all. My problem with the the clip is that the colors are so muted.
I mean this movie is guaranteed to be hot garbage and a complete waste of time and money for both audiences and the studio, i cant imagine looking at these first 8min and thinking “this movies gonna be soooo cool.” Their have been a ton of freaking excellent movies this year that barely anyone seems to have gone to so i pray to all the powers of the multiverse that this movie doesnt somehow get an audience but then their were people who thought zack snyder made good dc films so clearly their are a lot of broken brains out there.
I mean he does have a podcast called Mostly Nitpicking so...
The reveal of Kraven in the gas scene is serviced when they find the frozen corpse. It shows how Kraven infiltrated the prison. Nothing missing, just paying off the scene.
3:24 wait ....
TUAH
Its ironic that so many previously-not-really superpowered guys do seemingly superpowered things could, in some other universe, just be handwaved as "oh theyre latent Mutants now"
Sony needs a full creative and executive shift to get things in order
I think the bigger problem is Sony trying to cling to the remains of what’s left of their spiderverse and we all can smell the desperation.
The trailer music is from The Hunt for Red October, which is a classic, starring Sean Connery.
11:22 Nando explaining Kraven's powers and Nando casually using the same powers on his cat
Taking my dad just so he can hear the Red October anthem in a cinema again
Great haircut, Nando.
He is the most handsome and sexiest man on earth, yet his marriage is the brutal fantasy turn-offs
If they had to make the film, they either needed to really draw from the old Beastmaster movies, or put him up against something monsterous
this movie is gonna be such a SPUMC, I can feel it
I really hope they go full Squirrel Girl by the end where he's taking his revenge way too far. Jumping out of trees to attack dudes fishing in a pond..
I love this video. Your other videos look really good.
"but also, he kicked that puppy"
Thats awesome hahahahha
Given the delays to the release of this movie…I’m amazed it’s not gone immediately to streaming
Yeah. People get angry when someone in a movie harms an animal. Then they bite into a bacon cheeseburger. We're sickeningly obtuse. 😵💫
I can’t help but notice the ungodly amount of cuts there are in the first 8min
Its kinda late at this point, but I think the Spider-Man villain movies couldve worked if they showed a Spider-Man story from the villains POV. The villain is the protagonist & we just see Spidey show up in the fight scenes to stop them & is this kind of unstoppable obstacle thats getting in the way of the villain & taunts/harasses them which pisses them off & causes them to escalate the situation. Make the movies kind of a tragedy where the protagonists lose & have the same Spidey throughout them. Even build to a Sinister Six? Theres a way to make the Villian Movie work without turning them all into Anti-Heroes
Strength of the bear... Eyes of the hawk.
They probably should've just made a Bravestar movie.
They released the first eight minutes of now you see me when it was released which I thought was pretty good because it really got you captured into what the movie was about
We might also know Kraven from "Spider-man: Turn Off The Dark" in which he is a man wearing a big distorted man-head over his own head. Maybe he skinned another hunter?
"I'm cool with wolves."
- Kraven The Hunter
Love the use of the word: Adorable.😂😂
If Alex Honnold can’t do it than it’s a superpower.
Both the dark knight and the dark knight rises released the opening action sequence in theaters and online before the films came out
The DCEU Aquaman-ification of Kraven
You talking about this has made me think that a Vixen movie might work… Animal Man might have if that wasn’t basically Ace Ventura…
but you didn't have a problem with Kraven from the latest spider-man game? What animal powers did he have that kept you entertained?
Also, @8:18 based on the zoom in I took it as a movie metaphor being "he is the wolf". But maybe I'm giving this thing too much credit
I feel like they cut some scenes from Kraven The Hunter. I sure hope they are included in the Blu-ray or DVD. However, I don't mind it than watching the MCU films.
It's not called SPUMC anymore it's the Sonys Spider-Man universe
It forever going to be SPUMC. Idc what sony says.
who cares what name it is
Can't wait for him to make a team with Morbius, Vulture and Madame Web to fight Knull
The big delay reason was the writing and acting strikes.
I feel like that gun thing Happens with any maincharacter getting shot at Everyone becomes storm troopers
It had Blade 2 CGI movements.
Just FYI that "prison boss gangster leader" is called a Shotcaller
That's dsilly, he should have been called Stabbedcaller
Kraven Moorehead
I didn't watch the first 8 minutes but I'm still interested in seeing this film.Unlike previous Sony films what I read about Kraven is he's like Black cat a character that doesn't really need Spiderman.
Not enough Morbius or Tom Hardy Venom
You could say you were..kraven for more.
I hope squirrel girl gives him a pep talk
I think it was a good fun first 8 min and as a scene in general, it was fun and already better than I expected lol.
Ima go watch it
Christopher Nolan's Batman The Dark Knight released the first ~5minutes or so of that movie before it hit theaters.
*The problem for me is that they give Kraven superpowers*
Def a weird thing for Sony to do, like I would expect something like this when the movie hits digital or streaming. Also, will they do this for MCU!Spider-Man 4?
This honestly looked more Deathstroke than Kraven ...
Hearing this made me think they should have did mysterio movie instead of letting Marvel use that villain if they want a ground-based villain now.
WHERE CAN I GET THAT WALLPAPER
Tldr: it's missing "good"
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 also released a look at the first 8 mins of the film, so this is not unprecedented for Sony.
I really hope the rights are returned to Marvel studios, But i really hope this movie is atleast enjoyable like the john wick movies, which is a huge ask due to the recent fucked up track record of sony(except venom).
i like what the filmmakers are doing with this film, they're making a grounded gritty film about a character that does have a crazy fantastical ability. i think that the film not being "dumb" enough is a good thing because it makes the story have more merit. people wanted dumb funny films is what is hurting Sony cause they clearly aren't good at that so going for a much different approach I'll feel can work, even if it isn't the greatest of films i think people can come back to appreciate the story and tone of this film. hopefully it does well
I'm gonna disagree about him not having obvious superpowers. I felt like that might be the case at the start, but he shows at *least* two instances of superhuman strength (lifting the men and the weight bar at the same time and ripping back the steel bars enclosing the roof area during his escape). He also makes a huge jump across buildings that is a little beyond the realm of believability for a regular human, as well as countless instances of superhuman agility.
I agree, though, that if Sony decided to tone down the comic book nature of this then they made a mistake. I'm hoping that this was just edited for brevity's sake.
I need to see Kraven vs RFK Jr
Somehow Kraven is the more moral person in that room
He's kill him
Oh hell yeah.
9:23 Umm people made fun of that power in the first trailer.
Saying that’s not comic accurate.
So I don’t blame them for removing it.
It’s always the fans complaints that make those changes.
So you’re welcome.
so i take it the first eight minutes didn’t exactly leave you cravin the hunter
Did anyone else see the terrible Henry Cavill style mouth replacement Arron Taylor Johnson got when he was meant to speak russian into the camera? In one scene he's barely moving his lips and the voice is clearly ADR by a Russian speaker , but in another he's speaking himself but it's all CGI or deep fake.
They didn’t learn from spectacular spiderman when kraven had powers. Now he don’t turn into a lion in the movie but the point is kraven is so skilled he don’t need powers.
You know, if it were announced that Nando, and/or the Weekly Planet guys, and/or the Red Letter Media crew, had been hired by Marvel or DC simply to PLOT 5 years' worth of superhero movies, I'd be delighted beyond words. They're all pretty humble and self-deprecating, but they're far more skilled at it than 90% of the people who actually DO plot these movies, even when they're working off the cuff (maybe not Nando in this video, but James and Mason at TWP, for instance, improve plots all the time with two or three minutes of impromptu banter). I just don't understand how the actual companies haven't mastered what I'd argue is the *easiest* part of filmmaking ... all you need is a pen, a sense of timing, and a fertile imagination.
Still time time to make this Kickass 3
The guard never said, "where's Kraven?" He said, "where's prisoner 864?", or whatever his number was. The whole point was that Kraven was not prisoner 864. We see prisoner 864's corpse in the snow later in the scene.
The worst part of that eight minutes, to me, was the plane. How did he have a plane just sitting there waiting? How did he know he was going to be out at that time? Did he expect the plane to just sit there for three days? I could have believed it if it had been just a small plane stashed in the woods or something. Not a huge cargo plane with a pilot and running engines just waiting patiently.
it's Kraven time
I just watched Game of Thrones for the first time and I haven’t rewatched John Wick in a while so I got a jump scared at 12:30 when I remembered that Reek killed John Wicks dog😭
Whatchu think of it?
@ I loved it. I binged it all in just a little over two weeks, I really wish I had taken my time with it though instead of watching it all at once.
@@Sheen04 damn 2 weeks for the whole show is some work right there, who's ya favourite character? (Mine's Jamie)
@ I loved Jamie toward the end he really redeemed himself but my favourite character throughout was Tyrion
In the Mando ad, you said, "no matter which scent you choose" and i heard, "no matter, witch sent you chews" and i was confused for a little bit...
Get some rest my dude 😂
Some of the action in the trailers looked so decent I was starting to worry Sony accidentally made a good SPUMM movie, glad they released this chunk to address those concerns.