2002 MXZ 700 Top End Rebuild: Part 2

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  • @mathieutremblay7654
    @mathieutremblay7654 10 років тому

    when you torque a head or any engine parts start in the center and go out with a criss-cross procedure, great video

  • @captain18088
    @captain18088 13 років тому

    Hey Paisteboy glad your bro got his sled running but now you guys need snow bad. I don't have a sled get but hopefully soon I hear the trail in ny are some of the best in the country.

  • @richardmaaske8120
    @richardmaaske8120 10 років тому +3

    You should ,put some snowmobile oil on those Pistons. Before you put the Cylinders on.

  • @neilsim7472
    @neilsim7472 10 років тому

    This video is very well done. Thanks it was vey helpful especially the details about putting in the 'c' clips. Neil

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  10 років тому

      Glad it helped. Check out the HD version. We had to do this again when my brother rand he sled out of oil.
      Top End Rebuild Again: PART 1 of 2, 2002 MXZ 700

  • @jones420of88
    @jones420of88 11 років тому

    it will smoke like crazy but it will help the break in and seating piston rings! dry starts not good for it! every 2stroke i rebuild i put oil in the crank so the first start is really lubed and i know there be no issues while breaking in mix the gas to for the break in its better to go through spark plugs then pistons! hope to see more videos man!

  • @crownedroyal2003
    @crownedroyal2003 12 років тому

    I have done a few of these and I found that the aftermarket c-clips never fit right. After a few of these being towed home I started using Ski-doo clips and wrist pin bearings (cage less). Never had any issues after that.

  • @michaelcompton4049
    @michaelcompton4049 8 років тому

    seems it's same plugs with or without dpm ignition too ! I found a big difference in fuel mileage and throttle response when I switched to these plugs few years ago . the previous owner had the br9es in it when I got it !

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  8 років тому

      +michael compton
      Huh. I'm surprised that the gas mileage is even noticeable.

  • @MrYoungmoney2140
    @MrYoungmoney2140 12 років тому

    @paisteboy. Hey man got some pretty good news!!! Only 1 of my pistons blew lol....dug in deeper and found out that piston rod bearing blew and thats what made her go...the cylinder is in PERFECT shape...altho i forgoy to make a vid of it lol....wanted to see what u or ur brother would suggest about breaking the new rings in and such...thank u for all YOUR vids their a ton of help

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  11 років тому

    Good ideas. As long as my brother plans on riding again this year we'll have to do another rebuild video. Knowing my brother it will be in November just before the snow hits. Last minute. Thanks for watching.

  • @richsmith9092
    @richsmith9092 3 роки тому

    Glad I found this this is really gunna help.me.when.i need it

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  3 роки тому

      I have two rebuilds of this motor. The newer second video is in HD quality.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  13 років тому

    @KrankieV2
    I've been thinking about that for a while. Maybe on my sled. I just wiped the sludge off of the one rave that we removed from the bad cylinder before we reinstalled it on the new cylinder.

  • @bryleg6887
    @bryleg6887 12 років тому

    Yea i donno if a flush will cut it......1200 on a new engine or 2 hours of work and a 20 gasket!!! glue the gasket with grey permatex and well u have it apart buy a manual online for 7 bucks and read up on ring end gap if u didnt check this befor installing your rings on your pistons u will be taking a big risk on your engine blowing up again this is coming right from the horses mouth and once that wench clicks stop ,there is a bolt pattern to fallow for the head too, i hope this helps

  • @jones420of88
    @jones420of88 11 років тому

    holy shit you guy should have put 2cycle oil on the piston%cylinders and put it in both sides of the crank so on the first start its well lubed and it helps in the break in !

  • @bushwackersftw
    @bushwackersftw 12 років тому

    So you don't need ring compressor to install the cylinders over the piston? My rings seem very stiff to compress by hand. And also I had a ton of trouble installing the C-clips on the wrist pin but you had no problem at all.

  • @Krankie_V
    @Krankie_V 13 років тому

    @paisteboy it appears that you can't really see how dirty the valves are till you get them almost totally apart. Also it looks like if you've got a clean work area, you have nothing to worry about taking them apart. they're not awfully complicated.

  • @jbrooks1976
    @jbrooks1976 13 років тому

    nice job was wundering when u guys were gonna do that

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    The jury is still out on that one. I guess if we have a problem we'll find out this season. Thanks for watching.

  • @MotorHeadGreg
    @MotorHeadGreg 13 років тому

    Since you have a new top end, whats the proper break in procedure on one of these? We don't have sleds in Florida! :D

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    No it wasn't bored out. We replaced the damaged cylinder and added new pistons and rings. It only got riddin 20 miles last year because of the lack of snow, but it ran great. Thanks for watching.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  13 років тому

    @KrankieV2
    Yeah, I was just talking about the blade looking end. I figure the dirtier that piece the dirtier it is on the inside. It really doesn't seam like it's that hard. It's just that if you loose a part or forget what order everything goes back in then you're screwed. That's what we have video cameras for, right.

  • @JustAnotherViewer-
    @JustAnotherViewer- 12 років тому

    As long as the coolant says that it is okay to use in aluminum, then it is fine.

  • @gwsswg
    @gwsswg 12 років тому

    GREAT JOB GUYS

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  13 років тому

    @captain18088
    I'm glad we fixed my brother's sled too. We haven't had squat for snow yet but the trails don't even open here for a couple of weeks. The trails in my local area aren't that great unless we get a good amount of snow but there are some really nice trails in the state. Thanks for watching.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    @MrYoungmoney2140
    Wow! You are so lucky. I can't believe you didn't damage the cylinder. What I would recommend since you have to tear it appart anyway, would be to change the other 2 piston rod bearings while you're in there. That would suck if it happened again. It's kind of important that all cyclinders compression is very close to one another so maybe new rings all the way around too. As far as break in not 100 percent sure but maybe take it easy for the first few hundred miles.

  • @johncalixte
    @johncalixte 4 роки тому

    Good video for the average back yarder, however those bolts are torqued higher than you think, you stop on the click you dont push past it.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  13 років тому

    @TheTraxxasdriver
    I don't if it's because of the RER reverse or it's a feature starting on the2002 sleds, but it beeps a few times after you start it and beeps continuously when put into reverse. I have a 2000 MXZ 700 and it doesn't beep at all. Thanks for watching.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  11 років тому

    I guess we got lucky then. It's working great. Definately should have lube the cylinders up though. I even mention that as my brother is installing the first ctlinder. Thanks for watching.

  • @MrYoungmoney2140
    @MrYoungmoney2140 12 років тому

    @paisteboy u guys are more then welcome to come and fix my cracked out piston that blew on me today lol

  • @Krankie_V
    @Krankie_V 13 років тому

    @paisteboy i know you're supposed to take them all apart and clean them thoroughly inside like every 1,000 miles or so but i have never seen one taken apart..
    there is more to it than wiping it off, i was hoping that you knew more about them than I do

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  13 років тому

    @Blazinthetrails350
    Believe me, it's not knocking. It may be something in the video sound because it sounded like a brand new sled in person. Thanks for watching.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    I don't recall. We'll have to check that before riding this season. Thanks for watching.

  • @doobyboy21
    @doobyboy21 12 років тому

    one last question... Have you had any issues since installing these Kimpex pistons ? thankx again !

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  13 років тому

    @KrankieV2
    Cool. I might pull mine off to see how dirty they are first.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    @MrYoungmoney2140
    Too bad. You have to make a video of it though. It's not to late to fix it and still get some riding in if you have snow.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  11 років тому

    We're not experts and didn't claim to be, but It would have lasted if my brother hadn't let it run out of oil. lol. I never say "how to" in my video titles it's more like "how I or How we" since we are not professional mechanics. Good luck.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  13 років тому

    @jbrooks1976
    Yeah, Thanks for hanging in there. My brother changed jobs after the motor blew and he didn't see any point in doing it in July, so we just did it over this past weekend. Thanks for watching.

  • @codecodderson3607
    @codecodderson3607 12 років тому

    When the torque wrench clicks your suppose to stop you over torqued those bolts , just a tip for next time

  • @michaelcompton4049
    @michaelcompton4049 8 років тому

    hey it's Mike . I looked again on skidoo website and my parts guy also looked for me . 2002 mxz takes spark plug . BR9 ECS - 5 unless it's. a 500 cc then it takes br9es . 600 700 800.all take BR9ECS -5 the -5 means it's pre gapped at .050 as you are not to gap these plugs yourself they can break off the top if you do and do damage .

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  8 років тому

      +michael compton
      OK. Good to know. I'll pass the info on to my brother with 2002 MXZ 700.

    • @michaelcompton4049
      @michaelcompton4049 8 років тому

      Well I only noticed the fuel mileage because I was riding with a buddy that had a Polaris ultra 700 triple , and with the br9es plugs I was about same power and mileage as him .we were both putting in about same amount of fuel each time we filled up . But after I switched plugs. I found I was putting in about 3 dollars less than him when he put in $21.00 , I was around 18 . And my sled seemed to have more snap to it too.

    • @michaelcompton4049
      @michaelcompton4049 8 років тому

      You been out much this year ?
      We have very little snow here , central Ontario . Most trails are red and yellow . (closed ,or limited) have to go about 6 hours north or more to get any decent trails to ride on !

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  8 років тому

      +michael compton
      The season has sucked here in my local area too. We got blasted last night and it's still coming down hard now all day and I took the day off to go riding but got a couple things holding me up right now. We got over a foot of new snow and it's still snowing good. All trails are open for the first time this season. I just wish that they would declare it a state of emergency, then I could just right my sled right down the road.

  • @toddpayne6701
    @toddpayne6701 11 років тому

    According to the service manual, it says to use Loctite 518 on the base gasket. Did you do that? I didn't to mine.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  11 років тому

    Yeah. You're right. So far so good though.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  13 років тому

    @MotorHeadGreg
    I'm not a mechanic so I don't want to give advice on that. There seems to be some controversy on that subject too. Also this is my brothers sled and I haven't had to actually deal with this situation myself with a snowmobile. I would follow a snowmobile mechanics advice. Thanks for watching.

  • @1990arcticcatjag
    @1990arcticcatjag 13 років тому

    @paisteboy has the sled been sitting apart since you video this past winter?

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  13 років тому

    @02mxzx440
    OK. Thanks for the tip. I'll mention it to my brother. It's his sled and it's at his house. Thanks for watching.

  • @Northern_Farmer
    @Northern_Farmer 12 років тому

    Did you remember to burp the coolant to get rid of air bubbles?

  • @MrYoungmoney2140
    @MrYoungmoney2140 12 років тому

    @paisteboy ya i knew i should of changed them but 175 bucks apiece for pistons...ouch lol...but the other 2 pistons and rings were in great shape....did a compressiin test and got 155-159 for all 3 which hopefully is good? Took her out today for awhile and grannied her seems to be running good..over summer im gonna do a complete rebuild

  • @Krankie_V
    @Krankie_V 13 років тому

    hey can you make a vid of cleaning the R.A.V.E. valves? thanks

  • @doobyboy21
    @doobyboy21 12 років тому

    How long did this whole operation take ? from a french guy from where ski-doo was born you were right on the prenouncement on bombardier ! Great Video !

  • @MrYoungmoney2140
    @MrYoungmoney2140 12 років тому

    Oh i know..this sucks ...been riding a lot..we got snow lol...heard like a crackling sound and then lost power figured i blew a belt but i took the plugs out and found out that the 2nd piston...its a tripple..actually cracked..idk from what but crazy season already

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  11 років тому

    We'll do it next time. We have to rebuild it again. Unrelated reasons.

  • @Kawisaki85Dude
    @Kawisaki85Dude 11 років тому

    was there any up and down play between the pistons and rods?

  • @jones420of88
    @jones420of88 11 років тому

    u should have raised the front of the sled up 11/2 foot so all the air in the coolant will come up so you dont get a air bubble in the system and over heat!

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  11 років тому

    No oil in oil tank. He thought he had recently filled it but he was wrong. I'm still aggravated about it and it wasn't even my sled (Thank God).

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    @doobyboy21
    No problems yet, but we only rode once and for 20 miles so the jury is still out on this one. My brother said it was running great though.

  • @Drew-vr7by
    @Drew-vr7by 3 роки тому

    When the torque wrench clicks you stop tightening! 😂😂😂

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  3 роки тому +1

      lol. Thanks for watching.

    • @Drew-vr7by
      @Drew-vr7by 3 роки тому +1

      @@Paisteboy anytime bro

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    OK. Thanks for watching.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  11 років тому

    No, we didn't use Loctite 518 on the base gasket. No problems since this rebuild at this point. Thanks for watching.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  11 років тому

    I'm sure you bought all those extremely expensive high quality specialty snap on tools with your own money too.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  11 років тому

    Good points. Thanks for watching.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  11 років тому

    March 2013 trip to Old Forge, NY. His fault. Totally avoidable. I can't wait either. Let it snow!

  • @mrpipeshere
    @mrpipeshere 11 років тому

    You seem to be very knowledgeable. I'm more like these guy's, I know enough to be dangerous. I did notice the gasket floating around also and didn't like the looks of that. So you are saying to use gasket maker to glue it in place? You also mentioned internal leakage, do you think the gasket could get out of place enough that coolant will leak to the bottom end? I blew a bottom end once due to antifreeze and lack of knowledge. Thanks

  • @Austin4weelinking
    @Austin4weelinking 11 років тому

    also i noticed in this video (not really a big deal) you didn't oil the cylinder it would give more compression reading if you had still tho 180 is very good

  • @Krankie_V
    @Krankie_V 13 років тому

    @paisteboy I know a snowmobile repair expert. I'm going to talk to him about cleaning the R.A.V.E. valves some time soon, and when I do it, I will most definitely make a video, as I have yet to find one!

  • @bryleg6887
    @bryleg6887 12 років тому

    i donno if i will last, u had bent the clips putting them in the pistons, u didnt check ring end gap this is vary important to a freash top end and u did not glue the base gasket so u could have internal leaking and not know till booooooom again

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    @doobyboy21
    It took about 8 hours to complete. Thanks for the comment and for watching.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    @MrYoungmoney2140
    That was fast. I was sending you a PM and you had already replied. Ok since you've got er done and the compression seams good just take it easy for a while and you should be good for a while. Make a vid.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    Yeah the rings went in the cylinders pretty easy and the wrist pin C-clip can be difficult but the way we did it we found to be the easiest. Thanks for watching.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    @crownedroyal2003
    Thanks for the tip & thanks for watching.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  11 років тому

    No up and down play between the pistons and rods.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    I didn't even notice that. We have to flush the system.

  • @kevinx85
    @kevinx85 11 років тому

    Get snap on I'm 12 and I use snap on and I put that engine in a rev chassis and its was heat sold it cause it was a pain no reverse or electric start but I'm 12 and I rebuild dirtbikes and snomobiles the right way and hav special snap on tools for everything

  • @MrYoungmoney2140
    @MrYoungmoney2140 12 років тому

    @paisteboy i did forget to put some oil in the gas..lol..but shes running like a champ....after i got it all replaced i kinda slapped myself for not doing the other 2 cylinders...but this summer il tackle it...i will take a vid tomorrow of her
    .

  • @joejoe11290
    @joejoe11290 11 років тому

    When did he blow it up this time. Can wait until 13 to14 season

  • @luciffer420
    @luciffer420 12 років тому

    toque wrench dont help if you tighten a half more turn after it clicks

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    Thanks for watching.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  13 років тому

    @KrankieV2
    Yeah, That's why I put it off so long.

  • @brendenbrown8723
    @brendenbrown8723 2 роки тому

    Can you hone out the cylinders if there not bad or

  • @TheTraxxasdriver
    @TheTraxxasdriver 13 років тому

    how do u make ur sled beep?

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  12 років тому

    @MrYoungmoney2140
    Oh that sucks dude. We can even blow anything up around here. We have zero snow.

  • @radthumper
    @radthumper 4 роки тому

    Did you guys hone or bore the cylinders?

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  4 роки тому

      No. The bad cylinder was replaced with a good one.

  • @WOAAnime4Fans
    @WOAAnime4Fans 12 років тому

    was this bored out?

  • @mrmoparrr
    @mrmoparrr 11 років тому

    Get yer Carbs clean ,and hit the trails!

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  11 років тому

      Can't wait.

    • @mrmoparrr
      @mrmoparrr 11 років тому

      ALL THE DAM SNOW MELTED HERE IN WNY ! SO PISSED!

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  11 років тому

      +Mrmoparrr. Yeah. This sucks. Hopefully it turns back around quickly so we can start riding locally. First we had snow but the trails weren't open yet. Then they open and the snowfall melts. Can't win.

  • @kevinsaunders8112
    @kevinsaunders8112 10 років тому

    Hey paiste my 97~98 has a blown head gasket. I was just wondering if it would be worth buying the whole top end kit or should I just buy the new gaskets and if you don't mind me asking where about did you buy your kit and have you had any issues since this video? Any info would help as your videos will be my future reference try sir!

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  10 років тому

      Make sure nothing warped. Check the piston and rings for damage. If no damage then I guess a gasket kit should be enough. I don't know where my brother got the supplies. somewhere online. possibly eBay. Check out our rebuild from this season in HD on the same sled at:
      Top End Rebuild Again: PART 2 of 2, 2002 MXZ 700.

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  10 років тому

      Top End Rebuild Again: PART 1 of 2, 2002 MXZ 700

    • @kevinsaunders8112
      @kevinsaunders8112 10 років тому

      Could a blown head gasket possibly warp the pistons? I was leaning toward a full top end rebuild but if I can just get away with the gasket that'd be mint. Your videos are VERY helpful and I appreciate the feedback brother

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  10 років тому

      Kevin Saunders
      No Prob. I was referring to the head warping. It happens with cars, when the head gasket blows it is sometimes a warped head. Was the sled overheating a lot? Make sure you have the same compression in both cylinders and maybe change the thermostat if it was overheating. Just some suggestions as I am not a mechanic.

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  13 років тому

    @1990arcticcatjag
    Yes

  • @luciffer420
    @luciffer420 12 років тому

    Lol Always lube everything when rebuilding, never too much. without lube its like starting it with raw gas with no oil.

  • @leetobias9162
    @leetobias9162 Рік тому

    Do you guys know where you got you piston kit from?

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  Рік тому +1

      It been a while. Do an online search for Kimpex.

    • @leetobias9162
      @leetobias9162 Рік тому +1

      @@Paisteboy it is on their thanks a lot man

  • @Blazinthetrails350
    @Blazinthetrails350 13 років тому

    why does it sound like its knocking?

  • @joejoe11290
    @joejoe11290 11 років тому

    Lol what did he do to blow it up

  • @bryleg6887
    @bryleg6887 12 років тому

    and u didnt cut the gasket covering your coolent ports befor u put your jugs on now that piece will come lose and go through your coolent system get cought in your pump or stat, it will over heat and melt down

  • @Paisteboy
    @Paisteboy  10 років тому

    Check out the December 2013 Top end Rebuild on the same sled in HD:
    Top End Rebuild Again: PART 1 of 2, 2002 MXZ 700
    Top End Rebuild Again: PART 2 of 2, 2002 MXZ 700

    • @MissAnnaTes
      @MissAnnaTes 9 років тому

      paisteboy Just curious. What is the reason for the second rebuild two years later?

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  9 років тому

      Annaliese Teschler
      My brother ran his sled out of oil and blew the top end.

    • @MissAnnaTes
      @MissAnnaTes 9 років тому

      paisteboy haha that will do it. Thanks again for the video. Very helpful!

  • @mrpipeshere
    @mrpipeshere 11 років тому

    I understand you're not an expert and I don't think you pretend to be one. I suppose the word dangerous was a poor choice. I don't consider you or myself dangerous and my intent wasn't to bash or insult you guys. It's just that "bry leg" pointed out a few things that you didn't do and I probably wouldn't have either because we just don't have the experience or knowledge he seems to. I replied to him to ask a question and get his opinion.

  • @TheIrfanxz44
    @TheIrfanxz44 5 років тому

    I'm getting loud noise from engine around 4k rpm idles no problem and no noise
    Anyone please

    • @Paisteboy
      @Paisteboy  Рік тому

      Sounds like you're about to break something.

  • @crownedroyal2003
    @crownedroyal2003 12 років тому

    New jug!!! Get your wallet out!