REAL or FAKE? HUNTING Chinese porcelain in Hong Kong

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  • Опубліковано 20 жов 2024

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  • @duanewarder34
    @duanewarder34 3 роки тому +7

    The brush holder is early republic period very nicely done. The vase is a flambe glazed but did not turn out too well. The pooling on the foot technique can not be done properly today and has been lost. Grinding/filing of glaze is found on newer pieces (you picked one up). The shape is 18c probably around the Yongzhen period. The "patina" is supposed to be red while the green is supposed to be just a slight hue and the glaze looks like it dripped too far down the vessel.

    • @StuninRub
      @StuninRub 6 місяців тому

      Nothing about that brush holder is too complicated to be done today.

    • @petecabrina
      @petecabrina 3 місяці тому

      The brush washer isn't Republic, the scene isn't even that very well done, the enamels are weak, the porcelain is low quality and this type of scene is copied all the time, you see it on plaques quite a lot. It has even been deliberately made to look dirty to try to fake age which is always a red flag. Nothing in this market is old and most of it is not even decent quality, the carved vases were nice quality but still modern. The vase he bought glued to the stand is also modern, its all just made to look old, even the gluing to the stand lol They will even fake repairs these days and use fake dealers and collectors sticker. Chinese porcelain is a nightmare really if you want to be a collector, but you are much better off trying to find things in western countries, especially in Europe.

    • @Bholisoul
      @Bholisoul Місяць тому

      @@petecabrina excellent explanation, thank you, i would like to find a course to begin in this world, but as you say is a nightmare, thank you

    • @petecabrina
      @petecabrina Місяць тому

      @@Bholisoul you just have to spend years and years looking at items until it becomes ingrained into your brain, and you need a passion for it. Peter Combs here in YT is the perfect place to start though, his videos are very good and he has a great broad knowledge of Chinese and Japanese antiques. Finding the good international sellers on ebay will help too and to start purchasing genuine items. Peter's website is good for this too, he lists genuine items up for sale all the time and even has a list of the good and bad auction houses, he is also regularly doing videos of upcoming auctions from good sales.

  • @PeterCombs
    @PeterCombs 5 років тому +13

    "it's the wild west" of Chinese antiques and not so antique. A fun day none the less.

    • @Goldendives
      @Goldendives  5 років тому +3

      Hi Peter! Thanks for commenting, that's true, it's like avoiding a rain of bullets! ..what do you think about my catches? I'd like to hear your wise opinion about them.. don't worry, I know already that they are not masterpieces! ahahah

    • @joncan2348
      @joncan2348 5 років тому +1

      Hi Peter,
      You study my pieces and consult for me. I can't believe I bumped into you here.

  • @yangtzeling7468
    @yangtzeling7468 4 роки тому +18

    The replicas are so good that it takes a professional to differentiate. I would say 99.9% of the stuff you come across in the streets are fake. No way will a seller leave a genuine US$400 item on the roadside to be handled.

    • @yangtzeling7468
      @yangtzeling7468 3 роки тому

      @@dwls9986 The “ crazy price “ fools people into thinking it’s a genuine authentic piece.

    • @tlungzen1192
      @tlungzen1192 3 роки тому

      @@yangtzeling7468 in New York one guy throw Chinese emperor tea pot in trash so you can be lucky enough to get one

    • @yangtzeling7468
      @yangtzeling7468 3 роки тому +1

      @@tlungzen1192 I have no idea what you are saying.

    • @andycmw7216
      @andycmw7216 3 роки тому

      They look great far better from mainland that for sure because Hong Kong ppi are too picky

    • @yangtzeling7468
      @yangtzeling7468 3 роки тому

      @@andycmw7216 ???

  • @denimlabels7315
    @denimlabels7315 4 роки тому +4

    The brush washer looks Republic. That green vase looks really interesting. Older base....looks like it has some potential.

  • @gigiclements8318
    @gigiclements8318 5 років тому +3

    I'm so obsessed with bowls... All kinds of bowls. Thanks for sharing your great marketplace finds 😊🤠

    • @Goldendives
      @Goldendives  5 років тому

      Bowls are useless but charming ahah

    • @gigiclements8318
      @gigiclements8318 5 років тому

      @@Goldendives bowls hold yummy things and beautiful things ❤️ I adore them.

    • @goldengateart8847
      @goldengateart8847 4 роки тому

      @@Goldendives Thank you for the informative video. Where does this take place in Hong Kong?

  • @eccuk777
    @eccuk777 2 роки тому

    it is a bit late (if you still have it!)...one of the poem is: 扁舟一棹歸何處?家在江南黃葉村 by 蘇軾, the other one is 大江來從萬山中,山勢盡與江流東 by 高啟 year says 丙子年 which is 1936, I can't make out the aritist name though as the vid is a bit fuzzy :) it is 40USD so I think no matter what it is that's not too expensive 😀

  • @lanli4909
    @lanli4909 5 років тому +2

    The brush hold is made from Jiangxi instead of jiangsu.

  • @bradlybradshaw5972
    @bradlybradshaw5972 4 місяці тому

    Wow the green vase cleaned up soooo nice! Love the vid!

  • @applepie9806
    @applepie9806 3 роки тому

    For the first one you bought, the words in black on the front and sides are poems, very poetic but I can read only half of it, like "house in jiang nan" and "light wind brightness" which means something like "refreshing sublime view". Chinese poems are hard to translate sometimes. The bottom is the name of company from Jiangxi that made it. Everything is read top to bottom, right to left. It's quite nice but since it's a company name it's probably mass produced? Try using Google Lens on it.

  • @daveaquatics7918
    @daveaquatics7918 3 роки тому

    Nice. I enjoy watching. The two pcs you bought very nice. I also like vases. The green vase is beautiful.

  • @applepie9806
    @applepie9806 3 роки тому

    The red vase with mint green inside is quite beautiful, however I've seen something like it sold online

  • @MorningViewz
    @MorningViewz 5 років тому

    I love both pieces you bought, if you found out more let me know! I'm curious too. Is the brush washer republic or earlier? Awesome vids!

  • @zenzen4439
    @zenzen4439 5 років тому +3

    Even if these things are fake looks extremely beautiful...but very hugh priced 😍🙄

  • @藏物纳钩
    @藏物纳钩 2 роки тому +1

    Both are modern copies

  • @anerolllanes3737
    @anerolllanes3737 5 років тому +3

    How pretty, Chinese pottery...

  • @makaluma3672
    @makaluma3672 Рік тому

    Where is this in Hong Kong, anyone please?

  • @suggssecurity
    @suggssecurity 5 років тому

    Excellent as always 👍

  • @assemagamia5904
    @assemagamia5904 3 роки тому

    I have nice porcelain vase I have burchased fro antique shops in egypt ,he told me itis handmade and almost 70 years old
    Could I contact you to evaluate it ?!

    • @applepie9806
      @applepie9806 3 роки тому

      you should contact expert in egyptian objects. There's specialists for each history

  • @keithharris7569
    @keithharris7569 3 роки тому

    Buying Chinese art is like buying an expensive lottery ticket with a million to one chance of hitting the jackpot....

  • @paulokiryuu
    @paulokiryuu 5 років тому +3

    I got interested in Chinese antiquities and I'm going to China in December but I will probably stick with what is cheap since I'm not chinese or have knowledge to distinguish what is real and what is fake.

    • @TheFiown
      @TheFiown 4 роки тому +2

      Just keep in mind that everything is fake and you should pay much less than they ask. When I moved to China they told me to pay only 10% of the asking price and each time they accepted ,,, If you Watch other videos of specialists buying you can see that most of these vases cost only a few dollars from the factory. As I've said above, the Chinese have an expression ' The only thing old in China is my gradmother' !

    • @applepie9806
      @applepie9806 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheFiown XDXDD that's a good one, chinese grandmas live very long, 90+ is a given in my family. Not surprised that everything is overpriced, these places are probably tourists traps by now. I've found plenty of ripoffs online too, it's wise to haggle for much lower.

    • @mery8823
      @mery8823 2 роки тому

      Proses

  • @fredy271185
    @fredy271185 5 років тому

    u should buy the red vase one with green colour inside, 8000hkd both, bargain 6000hkd for both

  • @applepie9806
    @applepie9806 3 роки тому

    The cloisonne looks a little broken, not worth it to be honest. A lot of enamel works are quite fragile and don't weather very well and it looks like the family didn't take care of theirs properly, even if it's real.

  • @gmmercurejayapura6124
    @gmmercurejayapura6124 4 роки тому

    where is the adress of this place in HK--?

  • @albertchiu655
    @albertchiu655 Рік тому +1

    most are imitated !

  • @TheFiown
    @TheFiown 4 роки тому +2

    The Chinese have an expression, ' The only thing old in China is my grandmother', that should give you a hint !

  • @ilovesonichansonoolivia
    @ilovesonichansonoolivia 4 роки тому +2

    Haha hai toppato.. 7:00 non sono originali
    Il sigillo portava la marca di Qianlong..
    E quelle non hanno più di 20 anni di vita
    Poi si capisce anche da colore interno non e assolutamente del epoca Qianlong..

  • @john-ku9kj
    @john-ku9kj Рік тому

    the black color is too deep,it“s new。

  • @jackh7183
    @jackh7183 5 років тому

    Amazing vid. Thanks

  • @kenrogers1118
    @kenrogers1118 5 років тому

    Dude buy those supreme caps 10:42

  • @gustacano1749
    @gustacano1749 3 роки тому

    The green one is fake. Cost 0 NADA. CERO.

  • @applepie9806
    @applepie9806 3 роки тому

    Oooh I'd buy the real blade.

  • @BrianFrenchinternet-marketing
    @BrianFrenchinternet-marketing 2 роки тому

    Just terrible... you would have a better chance of finding a gem in a US yard sale.

  • @kurtislam5256
    @kurtislam5256 5 років тому

    1:55 He said it is 3800HKD

  • @andycmw7216
    @andycmw7216 3 роки тому

    The white indeed from early 60’s it for exports. Both very nice old stuff

  • @itsrewiquintal
    @itsrewiquintal 5 років тому

    Release more videos please!

  • @hellonumismatic
    @hellonumismatic 4 роки тому

    BIRO KING STAR channel antique & numismatic / Ind.

  • @kwxj61b
    @kwxj61b 5 років тому

    at around 12:30 with your second purchase. I think that belong to the cemetery. Hope the dead owner's ghost doesn't haunt you to return it back...LOL.

  • @liangzhang3003
    @liangzhang3003 5 років тому +4

    Unfortunately they are all fake.

  • @boereboere
    @boereboere 5 місяців тому

    all new things, the green vase some age, maybe Shiwan. Ask why the vase very dirty, but the stand is not. Fakery.