Idaho 4 Massacre: Bryan Kohberger Case Updates & New Info
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Idaho 4 Massacre: Bryan Kohberger Case Updates & New Info
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Demolishing the house so early in the investigation was idiotic
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New enrollments. Moving on. Big money always wins
It's SUS to US! 🤡
I think they did that because one guy can't kill 4 people in 11 minutes on 3 floors walk by the not sleeping roommate with a knife and then for 8 hours some cleaning of blood must of been done because it would of been a blood bath in there it was coming outside the house 🤦♀️ so yes if they used the light to see where all the blood was they would be able to explain 1 guy doing it ! So the house had to go this way Noone can go back and disprove the roommate's crazy stories of where they where and how they didn't hear anything
Did you notice the ton of asphalt being poured at the end of the driveway where the drains were?
I think locations of murders should never be demolished. Juries should be able to go through the house to help them decide.
I agree, there is a reason they demolished that house when they did and it has nothing to do with feelings.
It helped in the OJ Simpson trial 🙄
Let’s hope an Idaho jury has more common sense than the Casey Anthony jury.
Yep.. Definitely looks suspicious!
I agree with you
Correction: Prosecutor Bill Thompson said in a hearing that Bryan was NOT stalking the victims and the judge pretty much confirmed he also didn’t follow anyone on social media. I have since edited the video and removed that part for accuracy.
@@twizlestick8120what do you mean?
@@twizlestick8120how about you be respectful? she has done far more research on this than a random on youtube as she has made MANY videos about this. Stop trying to defend a KILLER.
@@twizlestick81201:16:32 it’s almost like she addressed that exact thing. now shut up and go to bed.
How about instead of being rude why don’t y’all try to kindly inform her about the cellphone data. We all make mistakes and in my opinion this case is one of a kind.
Thank you Annie and her team for your hard work and keeping us informed.
@@twizlestick8120listening, comprehension and educating yourself clearly isn’t your strong suit. Some people stay quiet and let people think they may be smart or an idiot, then others like you, a killer supporter, open your phone and start typing removing all doubt what side of the spectrum you fall on.
The fact that there was blood dripping down the wall OUTSIDE of the house is beyond disturbing!!
Yes exactly Brian looks like a psychopath very scary eyes like a wild animal
I think he is guilty as hell.
It deeply bothers me how soon after this that they tore down the building. With it being a crime scene you would think that they would want to preserve the crime scene.
Wasn't it just recently torn down? An you evidence they wanted to collect would have surely been done by now.
never in the history of crime in America has a crime scene been demolished before a trial.
@@dustinjolly9604 Sometimes juries are taken on a tour of a crime scene to help them visualize the sequence of events.
I think the prosecution has so much evidence they really don't need the house anymore.
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It’s still baffling to me they destroyed the house before trial. This whole case has been a mindF from the beginning. Agree, great coverage Annie. Keep this case alive!
They could not take any chances that the Real culprits maybe found out. So if you have the power to do something about it you would. The fact they waited So Long to even report this is hard to overlook. The i was in Shock thing is laughable unless you are someone who lives outside of reality.
@@richbutler7828cool. Not sure how my comment suggests I live outside of reality.
I feel like the university was trying to wash away any memory of what happened bc it was costing the school and town money! It was surely the wrong choice imo!
It’s not baffling if they wanted to cover something up
@@ctrl_alt_del100 I am sure the whole thing is Baffling to all the frozen shocked phase believers.
RIP Maddie, Xanna, Kaylee and Ethan 🤍🕊
MAY THE CORRECT JUSTICE BE SERVED!!!!!!
AMÉN
Correct justice?
@@andrewDaMackYes, some people thrive on supporting quadruple homicide defendants who after about 18 months still present no actual alibi for the time of the homicides and where there’s not even a trial date yet so there’s no reason to back him up other than to be noisy Kohberger disciples as if it’s cool to join a cult where a possible slasher is their cowardly leader.
@@Leaschmid7Yeah, sure. 🙄
Why do you think he's innocent? Who do you think is responsible? I wouldn't be shocked if he wasn't alone, but I do think he definitely is guilty
That house should of NEVER been torn down that father was so correct on all his points!!
How is it possible that Dylan (surviving roommate), clearly heard Kylee say “someone is here” or another voice say “it’s okay I’m here to help you,” but yet NOT hear ONE person scream being stabbed??? IF they did scream.
Make it make sense as beautiful Annie would say!!!
There are just so many things like this that aren’t adding up.
Xana had her fingers almost severed YOU KNOW SHE HAD to have SCREAMED
I'm sure the 'someone is in the house' was a scream. No girl would calmly say that
Have you ever been so terrified that nothing comes out? She heard enough to make her peak cautiously out her door. She encounters evil and freezes in fear that he's still around or may come back. Maybe she wrntbout enough and saw eathan on the floor but didn't see the full extent of his injuries. Maybe she saw them and went into shock and hid. All you armchair experts who have never experienced this need to wait for the facts and stop the judgments. You will invite karma if you really need to understand that much.
Because their lungs were punctured, so they couldn't make sounds. You need lungs and vocal cords to even make sounds.
@@kirstenbrogan5958she was messaging before, during and after the killings, yet didn’t ask anyone to call the police. Not adding up imo.
I just don’t understand how the roommate thought the person was “unconscious” if there was so much blood. It’ll be interesting to hear the 911 call
They are hiding it from you. Should be public info now. But Idaho is corrupt.
maybe she was in shock. Her brain probably was literally rejecting what she was seeing
At this rate she could have killed then and everyone would excuse everything away! Rude I know but why is everyone just chocking up her actions to “fear and terror and shock”.
I do believe Koberg is the murderer but I still believe the roomates were probably hiding something from the police like drugs in the house or something.
@@the.h.is.silent I think Kohlberger is the murderer, but I still think it’s bizarre that she didn’t call 911 until _noon._
When I thought someone had broken into my house while I was alone, I called 911 within seconds of hiding. I think she was just high.
I’m sorry but Xana HAD TO have been SCREAMING WHILE her fingers were being cut up …she was fighting back …and Dylan & Bethany not calling for over 8 hours …calling many friends BEFORE 911 ???? I mean Bethany could have not heard a thing …but Dylan makes NO SENSE!
Mabe Dylan is deaf 80%
I heard that there were tons of drugs that needed to get moved out of the house before the police could come.
@@MKUltra42 I wonder where they were taken? Asking for a friend...
Nobody really knows exactly what happened outside of the authorities. Let's just wait until the trial before speculating and accusing people.
We won't know details until trial. If someone was stabb3d in their throat or lungs they aren't going to be screaming. None of us will have those details until a medical examiner gets on the stand to explain the victims injuries. But speaking from experience there are moments that are so terrifying and shocking that one is unable to cry out.
It is extremely strange that the house was demolished so fast
It’s not that strange. The university wants enrollment to remain normal and neighbors want property prices to survive the crime.
@@edoboleynif Brian goes free then they will have much bigger problems
It's not fast at all. The investigation has been concluded years ago.
I'm glad you are keeping this case in the public eye. These kids deserve justice!
Moi aussi je veux un cœur s'il te plaît tatie Annie Louise 😊
Kohberger wants that as well. He loves the spotlight.
Yes, real justice. But as long as the wrong people continue to sit in jail, they will never have justice.
There are many keeping this case open and in the public eye. There's so much more to this case 💯❤
@@alishaapottenndna doesn’t lie
The roommates who were not attacked or harmed didn't notice that the person who they thought was passed out had been brutally attacked so viciously that blood ran out through the walls?
… right
From my understanding, the roommates didn't go into any of the rooms. The Goncalves said that one of the roommates called a friend (believed to be Ethan's best friend) over, he went into Xana's room and found them.
I think Xanas body wasn’t fully in the bedroom. I wonder if they saw her from a distance and assumed she was passed out? I’m trying to figure out how you wouldn’t see the blood and know that it’s not an “unconscious person”. I know if the lights weren’t on it probably wasn’t super lit up in that main room by where her body was but it was like 11am so it also wasn’t dark.
No, because the blood running thru the walls was probably behind the bed. Students don't spend time in other students rooms. It is off limits for them that is why they have locks on their doors. Students are also not each other's keepers either.
There are a million excuses for that girl.
It’s crazy to think that everyone on social media criticized law enforcement for not announcing a suspect for 7 weeks. Now it’s 19 months later with no trial date. 7 weeks was nothing in hindsight.
And by pushing for a suspect, the police just look for a conviction, instead of actually investigating. Bryan is a scapegoat.
@@alishaapottenn I couldn’t disagree more. I 100% think he did it.
That’s why the dad saying this case is going cold was out of line.
@@alishaapottenn absolutely and there are so many holes in the story by our revered, Annie, that I’m really suffering through this video right now. But guess who’s getting rich? Not you. Not me!
@@jas0206 What makes you think that beyond a reasonable doubt?
I can’t wait to hear the two surviving roommates tell their sides of the story because bro sooo many questions!!! Like nothing makes sense
There clearly is some kind of cover-up happening, as if there were screw-ups on many levels, and trying to cover all of them up is taking forever.
Which police department did Brian want to/go and work for? Maybe there’s something that would create a want for him to take the fall for something like this…
The cops cleaning out the house and loading everything up into a u-haul, with cheif of police personally driving the u-haul away too fast after the murders has always bothered me!! 🤔
agree. No way one person alone killed these 4 people
Ok BK groupie , guess you aren't aware it's the defense filing all the motions and delaying the trial
@@exitscreaming4637 Yes, because the prosecution won’t provide all their evidence
The cop admitting to deleting all his work was wild!
Naaaahhhh! Nobody does that without a reason. He would have protected it with his life. Something smells 🐟
He never admitted to doing that because that is not even what happened. He said he just didn’t save it.
@@Jazlin92665 isn't it amazing how the wording of things changes the entire meaning of it? Deleting suggests purposefully trying to divert or delay the course of justice. Forgetting to save, or even just at the time seeing no reason save information is a completely different story.
Wait what exactly happened? I feel like I misses something...
@@stephaniemumm522 he admitted in court to not saving his work, so if he want to see his homework from day 1 of the case till now, he doesn’t have it! wtf? AND in they admitted BK was not stalking or had any relations to the victims. 👀
DONT BELIEVE ALL THESE UA-camRS…a lot of them are already getting paid by upper echelons
These poor young ppl had their whole lives ahead of them. Such a tragic story. I’m so sad for them, their family and for everyone who loves them and miss them every day.
I think those party's were not a good idea, it was overkill, too many strangers in that house
That house being torn down was the stupidest thing i have ever heard
The neighbor’s security camera picks up the dog barking and loud thud, but the roommates didn’t hear anything else ? How is that even possible? 🤦♀️
They had their earpods in it was said early on but not sure thats true, could have partied and passed out as well. Poor dog. :(
Because they knew what was going on! I think the other roommates were in on it and are covering for the killer which they know
One roommate was on the ground level somewhat removed from everything so it’s hard to say what she would’ve been able to hear. Living in a house with four other girls she probably was used to noise and might’ve been in the habit of tuning it out
The roommate who ended up seeing (allegedly)Brian did hear things
@@madison5835 there’s literally no evidence either of them had any clue who Brian was, he lived in another state and absolutely nothing we know of at this point suggests they ever had any contact with him whatsoever. Such a bs theory people put out.
It's not the roommates fault, they weren't living life preparing for their friends to be killed. They are young, went out for a night of fun after studying at college all week & probably needed sleep. The roommates are victims too. Why are we focusing on innocent people? The person who invaded their safe place is the only person to blame.
I don't believe the house should have been demolished until after the trial, just so the jury had the option to walk through and see the scene for themselves. I am still praying for the families that this has affected as well as the roommates. I can not imagine the pain they are dealing with.
Yeah, maybe I’m dumb but I still look at the map and can’t fully grasp it.
Been wondering what’s going on with this case! Thanks Annie!
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STOP STALKING ANNIE YOU FREAK@@Solènelamigonnelicorne
@@SolènelamigonnelicorneWhy do you keep calling her Annie Louise? Her name is Annie Elise!
the thumbnail..Annie Elise is literally BK's twin sister🤣
The graphics on this are out of this world!!!! This is the best I have ever seen. Thank you for doing such an amazing job!!!👏👏👏👏You are inspiring, Annie Elise!!
Why would the 2 surviving girls saying they thought someone was “passed out” when the scene was described as very bloody????
This was because they were in shock
@@MaryRose86They talked to a lot of people on that call. All of them were in shock? Ok
I think that may of been less to do with what they actually said and more to do with 911 transferring information to police and what they can and cannot say/speculate. For all we know they weren't talking about the victims inside but one of the roommates outside. I mean how your body reacts to seeing what those girls saw when coming out of their rooms.....
I know when I was pregnant at got a txt from my close cousin saying she had just musscarried. My body reaction took over and I fainted/passed out while standing at the counter paying for whatever I bought. Just from glancing at the message that popped up on my screen.
I can't even imagine the involuntary reaction those girls may of endured.
But we'll only know when they release the phone call at trial which I assume they will (?)
It does no good to speculate about this because they haven't released any transcripts or audio of the call. All we know is what the chief said in the press conference. Everything since that day has been under gag order and seal. I get it's to protect the case and ensure there's a fair trial, but at the same time it creates rumors and speculation. IMHO, I think that anything not found in the records should be looked at with caution until more info is released rather than speculation.
Right I agree
I agree about the house being demolished too soon. They could have covered it with those fumigation tents and blocked it off from others gaining access to it until the trial was done and there was justice served. It could have been cathartic for all the surviving family and friends to have it be demolished after knowing that the victims have had justice. RIP those 4 young souls.
It was also probably costing too much to keep security there 24/7 to prevent people trying to break in
Green and LE wanted the crime scene down, so its down
@@Brea890gimmee a break...Green is a freekin billionaire....chump change for security...plus they got a million for expenses
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I will admit that I feel bad for Brian's sisters. Both of them were run out of their jobs after he got arrested.
I feel bad for his parents too. Their house got raided in the middle of the night so they woke up to that chaos and their son being arrested for a quadruple homicide 5 days after Christmas.
This actually was stated to not be true...
Not fair AT ALL!!
@@brandynestleroad3611What wasn't true??
Hes the murderer who cares.what about the victims parents.how do you think they feel.theres a reason why his bail was denied.theres too much evidence that's why.
My older sister lived in a similar party house.. Her theory is that all of them had/were using tons of drugs and alcohol, so their self preservation kicked in and the two surviving roommates needed to figure out what to do with everything when they woke up and saw the body. If they couldn't see the blood, couldn't they have believed the person was unconscious because of an overdose? Their behavior is in line with two young women who think they're going to get in trouble for smoking weed and popping a few pills, not recognizing the gravity of the situation. Their actions don't read to me as accomplices, but their actions are definitely strange and open to scrutiny. I wonder if Dylan was on a hallucinate, so she locked herself in her room, unsure of if she was hearing/seeing things. They were up so late for just doing some drinking, which would make someone more tired. Acid and shrooms make you stay up late. Curious about toxicology. Obviously pure speculation.
That's what I also think. That Dylan was so naive she thought the cops would arrest her for underage drinking, so she didn't call to report the quadruple murder until she woke up a little more sober...which is horrible. We don't know if emergency attn could have saved them or not yet, so she's kinda responsible for them not receiving immediate medical care...which is a shame.
@@JanellabelleDidn’t the coroner say they would have bled out quickly? I think that given their injuries, it’s unlikely they would’ve been saved but that’s something we’ll never know. I’m sure both those poor girls suffer with survivor guilt and live with enough pain without the public speculating on their involvement or not calling 911 sooner. Maybe there was alcohol or drugs involved and they were scared, who knows, I just feel so sorry for them.
@Sarah-Harvey yes, she said they bled out quickly, but she didn't say there was no hope for them if they had received immediate medical attn. I hope they didn't suffer long. I hope D doesn't think about that, though. Thats a heavy thing to deal with, wondering if you could've done something for them if you had just tried. I do feel bad for her, of course. I just don't understand why she did that. You've been drunk before I assume. But wouldn't you still be perfectly able to report a man dressed in black with a mask on as well, slipping out your back door AFTER hearing all she heard? But I think we will get some answers when it goes to trial...she probably has a good excuse for not calling sooner I just can't imagine it because I'm not her and don't think like her. Yes, D & B will deal with PTSD for the rest of their lives. I imagine they don't sleep well at night...and have survivors guilt. They ARE victims. I just don't understand the 911 call delay. If she was so scared, which she said he scared her into a "frozen shock", wouldn't she want to call the cops as soon as she watched him leave? Weird. And then weird calling a crowd of her friends over and having one of them call from her phone. The whole thing is something out of a horror movie and I really hope they have the right guy. May they rest in peace. Sweet girls and ethan...🤍
You can't judge someone in shock crippled with fear, alcohol or not
I think your spot on with the hallucination drugs. I know people who have seen horrific things and thought they were so real. She could have thought it was a bad trip locked the door went to sleep. Next day maybe they realized it was a reality. AND EVEN IF they thought it was happening why on earth would they go out there or make any noise?!? They could have been brutally murdered. People need to leave them alone.
If you want to know something wild…in summer of 2023 there was the Green Pond Massacre in South Carolina. It took place about 45 min from where I lived, and I never heard of it until recently! Limited media coverage! A man who was a literal butcher went to his family/friends of family home where they were having a party including his 101 year old aunt or something like that and STABBED 5 people to death including his own daughter who was 11 and another child whom he SA both girls…then he set the home on fire. Absolutely wild. I wish this case would get more coverage.
I've never heard of it. You're right. Definitely needs more coverage.
OMG how awful!! I haven't heard of that either!
My daughter goes to the University of Virginia, and they had a mass murder the same day as the Idaho killings , a football player shot and killed 3 of his teammates and hurt 2 or 3 others on a bus.
I only heard about it because of her, nothing on the news.
I think why Idaho got more coverage was the enigmatic nature of the Case. The details, like motive, are still inexplicable, even after the suspect was arrested.
It's what horror movies are made of, a psycho breaks into homes of random strangers stabbing them to death. It's just uncommon
Ask Annie Elise to look into it.
That's what I was going to say too does she have a form that you can fill out to request cases?! And it is so sad to me how other cases can happen and they don't get the coverage I feel like they all should get covered at least to some sort.... Everyones lives are important.🤷🏼♀️ It always makes me really sad when different cases don't get the coverage maybe because of who the victim is. When there is a victim they all deserve to be covered because no one deserves to have their life taken from them... Unless you're one of the sickos that hurt people and children... Then an eye for an eye. And I don't mean to go in a whole rant here but it always pisses me off when they don't want to be sentenced to death or they're like freaking out when they have to go to prison as if they didn't just kill an innocent person or hurt an innocent child or person....
Do you have any names?
Destroying the house before a trial is absolutely asinine.
Thank you for reminding me of that word: asinine. It’s a great word that I totally forgot about! Also, I agree that it’s asinine for them to have demolished that house.
Not really? They have high end 3D models created and both teams cleared it as being unnecessary. The jury will also not go to the house regardless.
It’s not typical for a crime scene to be preserved beyond crime scene clean up. They clean up the homicide and then release the scene back to the owner and the owner scan then do what they want
@@acoe2012ac but we are talking about this case specifically it was asinine
@@acoe2012ac but we are talking about this case specifically it was asinine
I will never understand why the house was taken down before the trial
Really?
I don’t get why the jury would view the house…we don’t do that in the UK. Police collect and photograph all the evidence and then the crime scene is released. If a house is demolished it’s from public pressure in response to evil crimes committed there. I can imagine the owner of the house wanted it back, people didn’t want to see it, people were potentially going in there etc there’s so many reasons for it to be knocked down, if that’s a normal thing to do in the US.
@@jesclifford88I would be interested in knowing what noises you could hear from where in the house. If I was in the basement would I hear Kailey talking on the third floor? Would I hear Xana cry? Would I hear the dogs feet moving?
@jesclifford88 yes they take jurors to crime scenes pretty often
I totally understand why everyone wanted the house demolished but yes IMO they should have waited until after the trial😢this is so terrifying and sad ❤I hope the victims get justice
A neighbor with a balcony that was across from the victims' house, who partied with them off an on, said that the girls who weren't graduating yet, were heavily into drug use and purchasing as a group, and that they were both messed up on drugs and also covering for the drugs and paraphernalia in the house, instead of calling 911 to report until 11am, while they were calling their friends as early as 7am, and those friends were calling others, and kids were coming to the house to see the murder scene PRIOR to any report being given to the police. Many corroborating students had cell phones with messages about the murders 3-4 hours before police were called or notified! Many calls were made by those roommates.This same neighbor girl was also doing drugs and drinking that night at her party-house with a balcony that could see the victims, getting grubhub in the middle of the night, with probable drug use among the roommates there. The scene was reported as not like a simple stabbing, but like a deer-gutting, hunter-style, gory, extremely violent and bloody scene with paritally disembowelled corpses. The roommates who didn't call the police until 11 am, claimed they thought their roommates were "unconscious". That's not a credible claim. The drug use and it's affects may have been the main reason for the roommates to not know if they were hallucinnating and paranoid, or if they'd really seen what they'd seen.I think the roommates need to be brought up on some kind of charges, and interrogated further. Not calling for help, not reporting to the police, and contacting all kinds of peers, instead, several hours ahead of contacting the police, seems like a crime of negligence. Claiming their room-mates were "unconscious", when covered in blood with their bodies sliced open and hacked to bits with guts outside their bodies,... that makes NO sense. Those roommates need to answer for their inaction and failure to call for medical or police help for their roommates. These kids were deep into the drugging party scene and had a lot to hide. They were thinking of themselves. Maybe they thought the situation was drug-dealer related, and they were afraid, but they did not dial 9-1-1, to help their roommates in any way, for maybe 8 hours? That's unacceptable by any measure, and those roommates should answer for that.
@@s.a.l.450 I agree 100%
that is crazy if it turns out to be true that a bunch of college kids in the community knew bout murders @ 7 am hours b4 the police were called. That makes things really suspicious. How did Ethan"s bro & sis not hear then tho?
imagine being the victims' families & hearing a bunch of people came to the house & saw the bodies of their loved ones mutilated ! this is horrible.
Makes sense. But something feels off. Especially the delay to notify. Sure get rid of your drugs, clean your shit up and then call. Fifteen minutes later, not four hours later.
@@juliebradenThat is one heck of a telephone game.
Things get twisted.
You didn’t mention how students knew about the murders before the police were ever called. Which proves the roommates weren’t just sleeping until 11.
The 911 call was made closer to 12 noon. So if they woke up around 11, they probably needed the bathroom but Ethan was lying on the floor just outside the bathroom. Depending on who woke up first (Dylan or Bethany) they would immediately have gone to whoever they were closest to in the house - whether it was upstairs to Kaylee & Maddie, or downstairs to Bethany. The two of them must have been beyond traumatised at that point. A rational person may phone 911 but no one knows how they will react under those circumstances.
If they woke up at 11am they had approx an hour before placing the 911 call.
I'm confused did I miss something, I thought she said Dylan was awake and saw the guy walk past her but she froze and locked her door. Why didn't she call at that time? Why did she go to sleep . I'm honestly asking I think I mis heard what she said.
@@silveryaya92783 you’re right. She did say that. That’s why Dylan is getting so much heat. No one understands why she didn’t call 911 asap. She went to sleep and didn’t call for like, another 8 hours or so. We don’t know why.
What's going on? Spoiler: a lot of nothing.
I reached 42 minutes and still waiting for the updates 🙄🙄🙄
One hour in, still nothing new
I love Annie, but her update videos generaally have no updates, more of a rehash...
Seriously !
Ii think she got paid to carry Nancy's water.
What a snoozer.
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@@reemalkaabi3335funny cuz I don’t see the police did any better … if the police don’t get their info correct and lacking what make yo think Annie will? She’s trying to get the story out . Can you do better ? Even the police , fbi have no updates . Annie give us more then the police ever will 🙄
I believe you already have your mind set on guilty. Just my interpretation of the way this video was presented. I for some reason feel doubt and do not feel comfortable that the two survivors took so long to report this and on top of that they are silent... "Super sus to us!"
I agree! Crime Circus 🙌🏼
@@dianahernandez1709 exactly! 😄
Simping for a murderer. Disgusting. You've been given all the reasons to explain the victim's behavior but you'd rather simp for a violent man.
This channel was my go-to for a long time but I am so disappointed in this video. What happened to the quality of research? So much of this is just speculation or completely incorrect that it seems irresponsible to be posting this as if it really is "new info" because it isn't.
I’m afraid this will be one of those situations where we don’t ever REALLY know what all happened that tragic night, regardless of the outcome of the charges against him.
Totally agree, speculation isn’t going to solve this, but we’ll never really know what happened & more importantly why. My daughter, uk, was in a student house when this happened that feels like years ago. I can only imagine what happened & hope it was quick.
I respectfully disagree. I think it will be obvious to any rational, sane person exactly who did it and how. But just my opinion.
Edited to add I mean it will be during the trial. I think prosecution is solid.
Same
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@@KG_614 I really hope you are right about the prosecution 🤞🏻
Been here since 2020! Appreciate your coverage and style of coverage Annie!
Wow, thank you!
@@annieeliseI don’t believe that Bryan Kohberger committed these murders. When Kaylee and Maddie were at the grub truck, Adam said to Maddie “they’re going to get you for that”. I wonder if Maddie reported the survivors for selling drugs in the house?! Her stepmother was arrested for drugs 5 days before the murders. Then Xana’s mom was arrested for drugs 5 days after the murders. Also, a white Elantra was found in Oregon 8 hours after the murders. It was left in the middle of the highway with all 4 doors left open. I think that was the getaway car.
@@bbe3034 I heard on bubbly Waters
That the landlord from 1122 king once owned that car and somehow the mother of MM (not Maddie Mogen)
Gave it to somebody in the area. I think it was who ever was renting the house behind 1122.
the thumbnail..Annie Elise is literally BK's twin sister🤣
4 young people being brutally stabbed to death. Likely screaming, moaning, crying, begging. Yet people here just completely understand how roommates didn't hear a peep. Okay.
The main roommate is the roommate that seen him on the 2nd floor. I feel for her regardless. I think she got scared and wigged out and either didn’t wanna know out of fear or just didn’t know. That’s what I think. Is that she was petrified and I don’t know the exact aligning with the whimpering sounds. I honestly can’t imagine for a girl like that or anybody. We need to find out the FACTS 🤞
Let me be accused of something not even that serious that I DIDN’T DO
I would be freaking out! This Ted Bundy, BTK lookin dude is way to calm and deliberate with his actions
You just making up your own story at this point because the info is literally everywhere that the one on the same floor did hear noise amd shouted to them to shut up. There was always shouting in that house. Also, the vicems where stabbed in the lungs and necks by the sounds of it. They might not have been physically able to scream. Also, you have no idea how you would react if you knew something like that was happening. While your in a room with no weapon.
@@44LillPuffin People don't silently fight for their lives. Ethan & Xana fought
@@_KaiRos-11 I realize she was scared & maybe had no weapon to defend anyone, but not calling 911??
@@djholliday5132you have no idea what was going through her mind. Maybe she was worried he wasn’t gone. Or would come back. Maybe she was so scared that she didn’t even want to call police cause she didn’t want the intruder to hear and find her. You weren’t there.
What’s super suspicious to me is he claims to have "OCD.” His office at school was "OCD” clean but yet his apartment wasn’t. That doesn’t make any sense. OCD doesn’t flip off when you get comfortable in your apartment… it never stops and especially where you live. Many people joke and spat it out a lot but most don’t understand it’s a true disorder that is very hard to live with. Very different than just tidying up a place. Everything about the case is crazy and I have to say that’s an understatement. A lot just doesn’t make sense. I will never understand how he managed to commit such a gruesome crime and not have a drop of blood in his vehicle. The same vehicle he used to commit the atrocities. Even if he had disposed everything he was wearing… his eyebrows were exposed. With 4 people being slaughtered, it would absolutely be everywhere including on him. How would he fight off and murder 2 girls, go down a floor, kill a young man that was athletic and close to his size, then Xana put up such a fight, a dog in a constant bark, and other people alive and nobody makes a sound? It almost seems impossible. I know we don’t know everything but it just doesn’t make sense. Even being intoxicated noise had to be made. I do think the house being tore down was a big mistake. Even with being constantly reminded , it’s not like it’s going to make everything go away with the house absent. It still happened there and people will always remember. I think they just didn’t want outsiders coming to the location and with demolishing the house would alleviate that. The people that currently live there, will still be reminded. The victims and families deserve justice and I just didn’t see what the rush was.
Could you do a video deep dive into missing indigenous women in the United States? You have great researching and speaking skills and it would be really eye opening for people.
Kendall Rae does many of these videos! She's incredibly respectful to the families and sometimes they'll even appear in her videos. She also has a podcast called Mile Higher
Curious why indigenous women?
@@synaesthesia4183 because indigenous women go missing at much much higher rates than any other ethnicity. Their disappearances aren't taken seriously by authorities so very few are solved. If you look at the numbers in America and also Canada the numbers are astounding. And it's not like the cases were unsolvable there's dozens of cases where families are pleading for police to help but they just won't. One case an indigenous woman was in an Uber who deviated from their course and took her in the opposite direction. She was on the phone panicking and even called 911 but wasn't believed. The amount of data from cell and Uber could solve the case instantly but it wasn't investigated. She is presumed dead now
@@morgan4574 I've heard about this issue for a long while & I'm curious if these are happening on tribal land and are the specific tribes police leading the investigations? Or are they/the outside jurisdictions not working well or timely together? I haven't done a ton of research, but the little I did makes it seem like some of these women could have been found a lot sooner and someone or everyone is dragging their feet whether on a basis of jurisdiction or lack of care, I'm not even sure.
@@cece998 Also Highway of Tears BC (British Columbia Canada.)
1:23:23 I’d much prefer if you presented FACTUAL AND ACTUAL EVIDENCE rather than regurgitating stories that can’t be back up and haven’t been mentioned in official court documents or hearings!
I cannot imagine the pain this father is going through… my husband and I lost our son in an accident ( Kona ) we have devastating pain, but not like this father, or the parents of these victims, not knowing why, not having closure.
Still having to go through a trial….. God bless these victims, God bless their families, please allow closure for the families, the officers , the prosecutors…So much pain 😢♥️❤❤💙💙
I am so sorry for your loss, that's heartbreaking. Sending loads of love your way ❤
@@andreapoulieva6717 thank you so much, we speak of him often, and keep his memory alive. I really appreciate your message. God bless you and your family. ♥️♥️
I'm so incredibly sorry to hear about your loss. A parent should never have to lose a child. My heart genuinely goes out to you and your family.
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@@clammer23 thank you so much, keeping him in my heart , in my screen name, ( whatever its called) lol, just never forgetting my beautiful boy. I appreciate your kind words, God bless you and your family. 💙♥️💙
A lot of things are still not adding up for me one if you hear somebody is in the house obviously that had to have been loud and there’s no way nobody screamed when xana almost had her finger severed off from defensive wounds. How did she not hear her defending herself and then you open the door and you see a strange person dressing all black in your house and you don’t call the police, but you proceeded to stay up and text on your phone, and then when they found the bodies, they thought they were unconscious when the crime scene was said to be extremely gruesome and bloody it’s just not adding up for me
Why haven’t the defense got all this video your talking about of vehicle. I feel like not calling cops for 8hours and calling other students first is more suspicious to me than anything
I think the defense has a stronger case than the prosecution from what I’ve seen so far
@@SherriLight-f6j Than Brian's DNA being found on the sheath of the murder weapon AT the murder scene? lol.
@@SherriLight-f6jyou havnt really seen anything so far. There a gag order. Do you know what a gag order is.?
@@XShadowAngel again research just needs to be done
Touch DNA is not used by the military because it is so inconsistent
The picograms found on the sheeth was used was to found in admissible. LE made up
Otherm lab. the lab used by LE created for this case
The program that they used was not privy to LE it was privatized
The pico grams where so low there wasn’t any left for the defense to test
When you break the law to get evidence, it’s called fruit of the poisonous tree and cannot be used in court
Thompson is no longer using the DNA because it was so fraudulent
So you can lol at yourself for not watching the trials because if you had you would be educated and you’re not
@@XShadowAngelit’s touch dna if I touch a baseball bat at Walmart and put it back. Then you by it. Then you commit a crime my dna is now on that baseball bat at a crime scene. See how that works?
I can’t shake the feeling that the surviving roommates are super shady. I completely understand being afraid to come out but to not even call or text 911? After Dylan literally saw the stranger that was probably covered in blood? To claim they heard absolutely nothing given the struggle that ensued on the second floor? How did they not find them before 11am when Zana & Ethan were in plain sight? Calling them in to authorities as “unconscious” when it’s clear from the injuries it was so much more serious than that. Being so afraid they had to invite a whole group of people over? Why would they have been so afraid if they simply believed their friends were unconscious? None of it makes any sense.
And since when do they refuse to release the 911 call? All of it is extremely suspicious.
Bryan’s arrogance after he was first caught was sickening. He was so certain he was going to get away with it. Almost as if he had assurances of some sort. He was quite literally caught destroying and disposing of evidence. He had no reason to believe his life wasn’t over at that moment.
At this point I don’t understand how he hasn’t just given a full confession. The evidence against him is beyond overwhelming,it’s absolutely damning. They may not have all the details correct but they have enough that he should know he’s cooked.
Many reasons:
heavy drinking and once awake not sure what you see or hear as it was a party house and then sleeping off your hangover and then coming accross the horror
Secondly, roommates are under gag order and they told more and said more to authorities, but we have to wait for trial.
Don't jump to conclusions yet!!!
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Good points @@yvettet7398
all 6 people in that house that night were young and spent the entire day drinking. i’m guessing you’ve never been really drunk before
@@samma9831 she came to her door 3 TIMES!!! Saw a stranger, hide in fear but never made a call. Thats why she is in question.
This case is heart shattering they were so young and had bright futures. it’s always the good people. I hope these beautiful souls get the justice they deserve. 😢
No, it’s not always the good ppl. It’s just that nobody wants to say the truth about the dead ppl, especially when there are shady or bad things. IMO Xana was not very well liked, and her relationship w Ethan was not the fairytale ppl try to make it be. Instead there were rumors that Ethan was a great, wholesome guy & Xana was not a “serious girlfriend”, but a troubled girl like her mother, & he was just having “fun” with her…
@@danae2882so what does any of that have to do with her m*rd*r? get a grip, you sound ridiculous.
Annie you got a few things wrong with this case information, i think a better look impartial indepth look into this please don't become a nancy disgrace x
So a PhD student in criminology is dumb enough to drive his own car to commit a heinous crime? I don't buy it.
And no victims dna found in his so called get away car
Right?!
It’s another set up.
@@MKUltra42 It's so weird- its like a man *had* to be found to be guilty, but in a weird way, he does seem guilty.
he didnt expect to drop that sheath. ...it wouldn't have mattered if he took his car and phone. its that dna that links. no dna and cops aren't looking at him or at least cant prove anything. he is clever but not that clever
I have a huge issue with the investigators not knowing where a location of surveillance is….when it’s up the road from the station. And not having any surveillance of his vehicle on tape. Very sloppy. This was all said under oath by Brett Payne recently.
Just so everyone is aware. Sy ray who testified for the defense is an award winning police investigator. Now retired. And usually works with the state prosecutor. This is the first time he has ever worked for a defense.
I pray for these families and they get justice. A jury won’t convict someone from a small amount of touch dna. Let alone a death penalty unless they have a solid case. Which they don’t. 😔
It will all be sorted out in trial, either way. Nothing to worry about now.
I feel like I hear and read more about the tarot card scammer in all of this then I do about actual updates to the case that are truly pertinent.
I believe they have nothing that puts Bryan at the scene, yet videos show 4 guys running from the scene which says a hell of a lot but this is ignored. If I were the parents I would not stand for this incompetent behavior from the prosecutor
right?!
How did students know early In the morning and were texting about it early in the morning Sunday. Some students at nearby colleges also knew early in The A.M., there’s loads of kids and parents who knew alike by 7 am- because of these students all messaging about it- long before the police were ever called. That’s the most nutty aspect to me
Wow, really?? I had not seen that before. I am only new to looking at details.
Watch the trial and find out
@@darlingdeb7010that’s another year away.
@@joycewright5386 as expected.
ANNIE I have respected you as a creator for over a year because of the great coverage you usually do on your content HOWEVER TODAY 💥💥💥💥💥💥 No mam ! You know These are Lies Annie and you know Bryan NEVER stalked these victims is Law n crime making you say this for your contract?? This is Not wanting justice for victims..This whole video is IRRESPONSIBLE 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 and dont delete my comment be a woman about it
I agree. For me this was NOT a “comprehensive “ video of the facts. Biased and poorly researched.
I would relax until the end..let her talk ✌🏻
You go girl Annie don't know anything about this case she trash I'm sorry
I take it people don't read the more in the description of these videos in none of it does it say this is absolute truth with no doubt 💥💥💥💥💥
@@DazyGopoor research ?even the police , the prosecutors etc get their shit wrong all the time. Go tell them that .
funny cuz I don’t see the police did any better … if the police don’t get their info correct and lacking what make yo think Annie will? She’s trying to get the story out . Can you do better ? Even the police , fbi have no updates . Annie give us more then the police ever will 🙄
Annie is not no professional nor the police .even the police , fbi messed up and get their shit wrong all the time police can’t even get the information correct what makes you think Annie could ?
Come at the police for not getting their information correct don’t come at Annie . The loser on here saying “ I’m unsubscribe cuz you can’t get your infor straight blah blah blah “ retarded
NEITHER THIS CASE THE SHEQUILA ROBINSON CASE OR THE KIELEY RODNEY case MAKE ANY SENSE
Shanquella case does make sense, her friends did it but them not being prosecuted does not make sense.
CAPS LOCK?
I think the answer is drugs. Drugs would make so much of this case make sense.
You left out a lot unfortunately. Like zero evidence that he was stalking any of the victims and inconsistencies that came out in the hearings. Love your videos but disappointed how biased this one is.
I typically like your videos. But you’re LITERALLY stating things that aren’t true in this one.
Hold up 😂 are we just going to ignore the 8 hr+ delay? The frozen in shock but calling others over before 911? Or the fact the stories changed? Or the 911 call doesn't make sense because it was stated at a press conference that the "unconscious person was stated dead " so are you telling everyone you didn't go try to wake up the other room mates to see where they were? You didn't see or smell any blood as gory as it was?! You didn't hear that dog barkin?! The changing of the death time, the changing of the year of the car?! The room mates texting eachother but frozen in shock?! The 911 call not being released why?! The college having so much power in tearing down the house before the trial...because it's a daily reminder?! But it's off campus! And if it's a daily reminder than it didn't effect you any! Let's not forget there were two detectives scanning the crime scene and 1 supposedly found the knife sheath and didn't tell the other one that he found it?! Or the fact they had to send it off to a different state for dna! Or the fact the defense has asked multiple times for the evidence!! Can't tell me room mates weren't involved!!
Or allegedly per Steve G per the indictment from the grand jury that the two survivors were actually texting through the entire murder of all the people and never called 911
This case was the one that made me need to take a break from listening to true crime. This messed me up for a while. So so awful.
This case caused me a maniac episode, not a lie. This case is wild.
@@josephk4932imo there were a lot of weird circumstances happening when the crime was committed… and the crime was horrible..
Same. My biggest fear is a home invasion like this. This is my first time listening to this case since it happened
Just curious about the 911 call saying that they might have an unconscious person locked behind a door. That call was on the 2 floor and it was Xana's room . Now they are saying that Ethan body was halfway outside the bedroom and hallway in the hall. Soooo Dylan didn't see the body for hours ?? Didn't she have to use the toilet during that time ... Also you would think she would have investigated after she seen the Creeper leave though the slider. Did she lock the slider after he exited ???. I would think so if she wss in fear 😱.
There was also a suspicious truck following them around that night with several people in it
kathybaker5944 A guy named David L owns that loud DODGE RAM unless 2 alike
Apparently I misunderstood your opening statement......I thought your review of this case was going to be based on facts due to all the noise surrounding this case!?!? I respect your opinion and enjoy your content, but many of the "facts" you have declared in this episode have been clearly debunked in the public hearings that have taken place in the recent months......It seems all you have done is repeat main stream media myths to further the narrative........I suggest watching the court proceedings and reading the documents filed in Latah County before re-visiting this story again!! My intentions are in no way to create tension or any other negative purposes. There are many people that are very respected in the legal field that believe that this man is not only not guilty, but 100% innocent, and for good reason. I have no opinion one way or the other because there is just too much that no one in the public eye knows, so I'll wait for that information to form an opinion. I would like to see creators such as yourself prepare your stories based on factual evidence based on court documents and proceedings, as opposed to the stories that float through the various main stream and social media channels. Just like the people that believe in his innocence, there is also a large section of the population that have already convicted this guy, and bottom line, that is NOT how the judicial system in the United States is supposed to function! Thank You for Reading!
She just regurgitated her old videos
Exactly what I was going to say. Surface narrative.
I’m a neighbor to the Daybell property. To say we are shellshocked regarding the 4 students killed is an understatement. We usually don’t see this kind of violence.
I’m 55 yrs old and until the last few yrs never heard of Moscow, Idaho!! I’m a true fan of your channel and have watched all of your videos. You look great and your professionalism when reporting on the crimes is better than most!
I hadn't either until I we drove through there, and spent he night at a hotel, on our way up to Spokane, WA, about 10 years ago. It was snowy and tranquil and I really liked the town and thought "this looks like a great place to live".
Fentanyl capital. Idaho's nature is pretty but nah. @@GigiRulesTheRoost
She's our white queen of crime!
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Stop justifying what Dylan did or didn’t do.
AMEN
I notice that coverage of BK's alibi often quotes the line about watching "the moon and stars," but seldom quotes the far more substantive claim *in the very next sentence* that he "drove throughout the area south of Pullman, Washington, west of Moscow, Idaho including Wawawai Park." Maybe that's true, maybe it's a load of BS; maybe there's evidence to back it up, maybe there's evidence to discredit it. But either way, that's an actual location 45 minutes away from the scene of the crime. Fixating on "seeing the moon and stars," while leaving out the actual substantive claim being made, serves no clear journalistic purpose.
Agreed. He also said he liked running and hiking at night but no one makes snide jokes about that portion. Unfortunately, people are more interested in a snarky quip than in the truth.
Annie they called friends over. Tons of kids knew they were dead but not the police. Unacceptable.
How ?
I have spoken to several people who have never heard anything about this case before and I’m astounded. How could people miss the horrifying nature of this?
I think most people that are really into this case and that "everyone in the world was aware of this and on the lookout for a White Elantra, etc" fail to realize that literally over 95% of the population has no idea about this case maybe 5% of that 95% briefly saw something on Dateline or something but can barely recollect it or the details.
Same . I tell everyone
Because many are not like us looking into true crime or serial killers.
Different people are interested in different things? I’m sure there’s tons of true crime cases you yourself haven’t heard of.
It's almost as bad as the amount of people who actually think the narrative they are pushing is the way it all happened. It's all too simple and easy and then they tore the house down. LOL
this is so disingenuous the detective confirmed he was not stalking them in court
I think some people need to review the trials that have been going on. I don’t think anybody knows what’s going on with in this chat.
Agreed. The high level takeaways are in the court case videos from the judges page and in the documents. I yi yi
Yes, I saw the court hearing a few days ago. He said that BK wasnt stalking them. The prosecutor also stated there was no relationship between the victims and BK. Also there is now questions if the insta acct was actually Brian's. All of this was brought up in recent court sessions.
but was the detective's admission challenged as it should be in court? is he even a valid detective? what evidence was used to determine the conclusion they wasnt stalked?
@@henlohenlo689 well there’s a gag order on this case
Bill Thompson changed everything that was in the PCA. That’s why it is no longer valid.
That we have to wait
That is why they’re not using the sheeth and the photos of a car
A lot is coming out
As far as detective Payne
I know he was a newer detective, but he definitely was the lead detective and should know everything about this case
Now he’s pleading the fifth
I don't know if it's just me. But I feel like Dylan's testimony is completely made-up. It makes no sense that she heard Kaylee whisper that "somebody's here" But heard none of them getting murdered or the dog barking.... Her testimony seems like a complete afterthought to link him to the house.
And that he made eye contact with her and she was soooo terrified But went to sleep anyway & didn't call the police until mid-afternoon the next day, Saying that somebody's passed out when there's supposedly a complete bloodbath.
Dylan has always been suspicious to me
100%
The bloodbath thing seems very strange to me too.@@kendallbbb847
I agree. But I don't think she is the one that made that ip.
I have to say @AnnieElise that I am disappointed in your handling of this case - the narrative is not lacking, but the truth is lacking. You invent a lot, you interpret a lot of evidence as you see it fit to condemn BK. You even use ridicule and mocking where it has absolutely no place. Shame. I hope that, even though you are now a great creator and make good money and have a quality life thanks to those of us who watched you, you will still gather your conscience and return to paying attention to details as u did before and give us quality over quantity! I don't want to, God forbid, even think that you were paid by the main media to do this narrative, because that's what it looks like. I pray to God that I am wrong and that these are just the wings of Glory that soared you high, and that you're going to come back to the earth and back to being good creator again.We still Hope! 🙏🏼 TC
Yesss! Finally an update on this case! There has been a lot but it’s so many different videos from different UA-camrs. So glad you covered this. The resemblance between Bryan and my own brother. When this first happened I legit thought it was my brother that I don’t talk to anymore. Freaks me out. 😅
Why do you feel that way?
She got all of it information completely wrong. I have been watching the court hearings and her information is so incorrect. This is old news that has been corrected. There is no stocking involved. There is no following each other on any social medias. He didn’t go to their work. The DNA is Touch DNA it could be third-party DNA there’s also three other parties of DNA. They have not tested yet. The car FBI said it was a 2011 to 2013 Hyundai ELANTRA so they have the wrong kind of model in the beginning so they’re really not sure what kind of car it was, they also was an accident in front of Brian‘s house where a two people were hit in hit and run so Bryan left his house when that happened so there should be a body cam of him leaving his house and a body cam of him coming back to his housebecause the police were still there when he arrived home. But nobody ever thinks that.
The house SHOULD NOT have been torn down before the trial!!!! WHAT IF, WHAT IF something was needed, something was helpful there?!?!
It was already forensically investigated prior to being taken down.
@@sarahwales6276 And what if the jurors wanted/needed to do a walkthrough of the house? That has happened before (Murdaugh).
@cathyweisner2683 I remember that juror talking about how going to the scene put it all together for them. I agree. Should have left it so the jury had the option
The entire situation with Dylan that night still baffles me. I still remember the moment I heard her recount; my jaw literally dropped. She heard enough commotion to open her bedroom door several times, then witnessed an unknown man dressed in all black with his face covered, slip out the back door, and then she just locks her bedroom door and goes to sleep?
The next morning Dylan calls several other people over, (for what, emotional support?) BEFORE calling the police. I mean clearly the “unconscious person”, would’ve been Dylan. You’d think seeing that his throat had been slashed would’ve given her a sense of urgency. Damn.
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@@Emerica. seriously !! I agree . Doesn’t make sense.
the unconscious person wud hav been Dylan? U mean Ethan in the hall don't u?!
also that many hours later (11am) color and temp would clearly show they were more than unconscious...and who hears odd noises in their house and doesnt immediately dial 911? we are all taught to do that from a very young age
Yes it is baffling. The door dash just moments before is also amazing. If the boy was standing up when the unsub appeared -- which appears to be the case if he fell in the hallway -- then there would have been a fight: blood would have been spattered all over the place, and there would have been non-trivial noise. The neighbor's cam did pick up the sound of a thud, which was probably Ethan falling. Maybe it was so dark that he didn't brace for a fight. On the other hand, they had just gotten the food and seems like still would have been eating (i.e. with lights on). One theory I have is that D. *did* call 911 right away and they waved it off as typical party house noise. (Are they obligated to send a squad car for every call? Even so, maybe a squad car drove by and everything was dark and peaceful by then.) There's a lot we don't know and unfortunately, maybe never will.
Im so so so disappointed. I used to love Annies videos, but now, she seems to far from where she started. There were SOOO many things mentioned that were wrong or inaccurate. A mans life is on the line, regurgitating lies from mainstream media will only further spread misrepresentions of facts and misinformation. This was the final straw for me. I wish Annie luck on her future endeavors, but I can no longer contribute to her spreading false information.
I’ve experienced shock , I’ve seen others have a catatonic reaction to shock , in both instances it was immediately recognised and addressed …. There talking about this as if the 2 roommates had Folie à deux ( madness of two , almost like mass hysteria) but it was not this . They had the conscious ability to phone “ friends for help “ instead of 911 . Inexcusable
The place was a party house with strangers going in and out at all hours and all days. They had police knocking on the door and being met by non-resident males. They probably convinced themselves it was just nothing, just the usual goings on at the residence.
They are still just kids , they probably did not have the maturity to know what the correct thing to do was, Way to make the survivors even more vulnerable and victimized !
@@leedavis3704 agreed . And was not my intention…. But there are unanswered questions as to why they called friends, before emergency services and these are valid questions that surely will come up in court …. It just speaks as to speculation and reasonable doubt , which any worth there dollar defence lawyer would surely question in court
@@comprehensive953 defense , Defense that is how it’s spelled, guess your not a lawyer, Maybe stick with NOT attempting to figure out how the defense works
@@leedavis3704 the spelling is the same , the capital letter is a grammatical error… I also missed the part where I claimed to be a lawyer ? 🤷♀️ I’m trying to figure out the logic here NOT how the defence are trying to spin in.
All i want to say is everyone commenting on this needs to see the public hearings that have been happening the last month or so. She has been trying to get all of the evidence from the PCA that they would not hand over to her. She questions 2 of the lead LE officers about evidence missing. The answers from them are shocking. Not only that, though. The procesution states in a public hearing that Bryan did not stalk any of the victims on social media or any time. Also, while questioning one of the officers, he asked about the camera footage of Bryans car. I believe it was Payne. She asked him, " Do you believe the car in the camera footage is Bryan's car". He said NO !!. Please do not take my word for it. You really need to see and hear it for yourselves.
Stalking and surveillance are different, according to the statutes in Idaho. So no, he didn't stalk them, but he may still have been watching them.
She has all the evidence. the Prosecution said no stalking because the court does not recognize stalking in this case but instead surveilling. They use specific jargon in the court. Payne never said his car was not on cam they already have, he was alluding to the fact the route the killer took going South is rural with few street cams. They wouldn't have arrested Bryan if they didn't have evidence on him because they don't know Bryan as he was living in another State. Anne is dragging her feet.
@@Pllm30Agreed. She’s going over every piece with a fine-tooth comb (to be fair that is her job) but the way she keeps pointing fingers at the state and alleging that they are purposefully withholding information is ridiculous. I don’t believe for a second all this corruption conspiracy nonsense that keeps floating around
@Pllm30 She has all the evidence Bill wants her to have. He's withholding the rest. Bryan is entitled to all of the discovery.
I can clearly see that he is never getting a fair trial. Everybody drank the Kool-Aid and already convicted him. I’m not saying I believe he’s innocent. I’m saying I have to see all the evidence before I can truly say that I think he did this. Because I believe in ourjudicial system innocent till proven guilty. That surveillance video shows nothing in that video that proves that that car is BK. And before you come at me, that’s what America is built on innocent till proven guilty. Everybody’s just ready to kill this man and all the facts we haven’t even had a trial.
It's so hard to believe one person did this. Prayers to the family.
It really isn’t at that time of night and with everyone in an intoxicated state. Bundy did the same thing in chai omega.
@@Jazzykatt23no, he didn't stab 4 people 50 times and leave no evidence...and don't even start with that bogus touch dna
@@Jazzykatt23so did Butch Defao (Amityville Horror) and he shot 6 people with a shotgun
@@pixiepunk25 that one always baffled me. I believe he did it alone, but how no one woke up considering they were on different floors and were in the same stomach sleeping position is just odd.
Mass murders with only one killer literally happen on a daily basis
I just still don’t understand why go after Xana and Ethan, but walk right past Dylan.
Great breakdown, but at around 44 minutes you discuss the cell tower ping and said it showed he was scoping out the house. This isn't necessarily true. Cell towers can ping up to 20 miles. That whole town isn't even that big. So they essentially had his phone near his school 11 times. Unless they have exact GPS data, I don't think it's very accurate to say he was there.
56:09 personally I find this beyond bizarre to tear down a building before the trial is finished, let alone before the trial date was set. I just don't think this should ever be allowed
Yeah something really stinks about this whole case. Tears down house is absolutely insane. But soo many other lil crazy things
That's because it didn't happen in your little town, or your school, not even your state. You have no fucking idea what that house staying up was doing to the community, but keep running your ignorant mouth.
And the thing is please stop spreading the false narrative that he tried to reach out to them on Instagram that has been proven wrong he never reached out to any of them on any type of social media so I really wish people would stop Miss informing the public
It really lets you know which creators have actually watched the hearings. The judge and prosecutor said in open court that BK has no connection to the victims whatsoever and never stalked them
@@willbeard4835 I just told her she needs to watch the hearings
Can we talk about Sy Ray!
I always loved Annie in love that she stuck with truth and things like that but this video she's sticking with all media I kind of been staring away from her channel for a while now because she wasn't telling stories like she used to and with Brian nobody's thinking with these hairs that were found in his house you know I know what they found a couple of hairs and a dog hair but does anyone ever think that you know possibly the young man might have had a life
@@ashlee895 no dna was found in house
in the car
in the office
nowhere
@@ashlee895 I can see how it happens. She covers a lot and relies on the media narrative for her research. We are witnessing in real time how the state used the media to cover up a crime over time
Who’s doing the research? The amount of incorrect data makes me wonder….who is doing the research?
ITS irresponsible for Damn Sure ..I'm still in disbelief that she has NOT removed this mess 💥😔 Full of misinformation and LIES...Hell somebody had to tell her that Bill Thompson HIMSELF said Bryan Never stalked NOBODY it's gross
Thank god you’re not a lawyer. You’re super biased in this video - shouldn’t keep defending the roommate when we have zero proof of what she did or didn’t do!
I hear footsteps in my house, lol. You’re telling me if 4 people are being murdered, 700% chance at least one of them are screaming that the roommates wouldn’t freak out and check on them or at least text them?
You would hear a thud, you would hear screaming, you would smell blood. Especially knowing their rooms were so close together.
Calling at 11am is unheard of when you come across a random guy wearing a mask leaving your house.. lol? How is that not suspicious, would he not have had blood on him? Would he have not smelt?
Common to not say “dead person” over a call but, still so many questions about the 911.
We need to hear that 911 call, it’s being kept hidden for a reason
The only question about the 911 call is why it took so many hours for it to be done. The terminology used in the call has long been debunked as being standard in Idaho.
Brian innocent 🤣 I don’t think so. The evidence so far leads right to him. Psychopath.
The peers who were called and came to the house for hours prior to the roommates' call to 9-1-1, had been inside the house and also said the attack was not a stabbing but more like a "gutting", as one would do to a deer or animal, not like stabbing a human to kill, but more of a hacking. Still the roommates waited 4 hours after they had texted their friends, to alert the police, never calling an ambulance that night or the police, at all. Many peers were informed by these roommates who claimed that they were asleep, and couldnt' call until 11 for that reason. That seems incorrect. Also they claimed that they thought their roommates were only, "unconscious", when their bodies were hacked and entrails were exposed and dragged out of their bodies, blood everywhere. That is incredible. The roommates need to answer for their negligence. Kohberger hung out and watched the waitresses at the vegan restaurant where one of the victims worked, and that seems like a likely indicator of him being obsessed with one of the victims. Maddie looked so much like her friend,... in the dark, he may not have known the difference, until he'd already attacked. The other couple may have been collateral damage. He may have anticipated that the petite young woman would be easy to kill with little ability to resist, but ended up having to kill witnesses who were right there. Kohberger was obsessive control freak, likely an enraged "incel", and had been a heroin addict, in prior years. He picked what he thought was an easy target on whom to take out his insecure and sexually entitled rage against women. He's a freaky nut job. What was the roommates excuse for not calling for ambulance or police all night and all morning until 11? They should have to answer for what they did, likely, just to cover up their illegal drug use and intoxication.
I agree with pretty much your entire description from the surviving roommates’ suspicious negligence, down the Bryan Kohbergers motive, and the couple being collateral damage. I believe the reason this case has gone so cold and stagnant is because the prosecution has a strong case against BK. This was later the case for the local PD, they did an excellent job despite many people being desperate for answers and believing the opposite. There’s a lot of vagueness still in this case but I wonder if it’s because they have daunting evidence against him that is being reserved for the trial. Time will tell.
Excellent Presentation recapped every Valid true detail. I appreciate your recapp covering this case!!!! I’ve been anxiously awaited for this !!! “EXCELLENT” Thanks So much ❤
Thanks for your coverage on the Idaho 4! My heart goes out to all the families and roommates!
Did "Pappa Rodger" make any comments about why he thought the other two roommates were spared?
Pappa rodger said "because he was satisfied" 😩😩 sounds kinda sexual.
(Don't have the screenshot anymore though sorry)
I want to know how much does she really know about these murders did she have any association with this guy
The house shouldn't have been torn down before the trial was over. The university is trying to move past everything and I really believe it's out of greed. A dip in attendance is money lost. But no one will forget what happened to those poor kids.
How did they know in 40 mins there was no threat to lift the stay in place alert???
They didn’t, I imagine it was so people didn’t panic
Probably because they thought Jack Decouer had done this initially.
That would freak me out more - no arrest or suspect
@@jesclifford88exactly
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Watching this all together like this makes it look like LE was trying to set up a narrative and then another narrative and then another. Which is why, regardless of who did it, it's going to be very hard to try this case in any real way. Also, Annie, this is a really clear and truthful presentation of a case that is anything but. You are the cream of the true crime crop - I always know I'm going to get thoughtful, compassionate journalism when i land on your channel.❤
I listened to this entire video on my recent roadtrip. You always deliver such good detail and conversation on any one of your videos that I’ve seen. Well done!!! I thoroughly enjoy getting my curiosity updates fulfilled from your work.
Annie, I admire your professionalism, your depth of coverage. ❤ may these 4 souls rest in heaven.
You are easily amused.
And care nothing for truth, I assume.
what is your viewpoint? i’m intrigued
There is no such thing as a soul. They are dead. There is no invisible place up in the clouds called heaven. When you’re dead. You’re dead. Poof.
You mean her research teams depth of INCORRECT coverage lol
The controversy surrounding this case astounds me ....
The irregularities surrounding this case are shocking.
Id say it's pretty controversial to be hearing, seeing the perpetrator, and knowing someone was killed someone in the house you lived in and you still debating on calling the police until 11am😅 those people were very obviously dead, they knew it. Idk if they were talking to lawyers or what, but nasty behavior by these women.
@@corablah9809that’s what I’ve always thought, like if this suspicious man was in your house and you saw him why would you not call 911 the second he left?? Like I would’ve been panicking so much if a creepy person was in my house and just walked past me…
@@corablah9809they were 20yrs old. Who would ever think that someone was in their house brutally murdering their friends. They probably thought that they were partying. It isn't abnormal for 20yr olds to sleep until 11 especially when they were up late. We don't know the full story either because of the gag order. I don't believe they had anything to do with it. I can't imagine what they went through and then have people blame them on top of it all. Those poor girls will be traumatized for life.
Most likely threatened to not call or 'you'll be next'
Hey Annie from Scotland thanks for the updates you really do the best true crime on YT thank you for all your hard work it’s very much appreciated 🥰
It's the bushy eyebrows....bizarrely, the eyebrow description prior to having any suspects seals the deal for me. The car, cell phone data, and DNA don't help, but the eyebrows are striking. Guilty. No question.