Here's the explanation of the arrows you were wondering about; - A composite arrow is not that surprising. The reed was used at the rear because it notches well to accommodate the bowstring. The willow for it's flexibility in flight being the main shaft and the harder olive wood at the tip is less likely to split upon impact. I used bamboo, beech, cherry in the same way for those reasons on my last arrow. - "the arrows may have been coated in birch tar for aesthetic appeal'....Nah it's functional to keep them dry. If those get wet it will seriously affect your shooting. Same with the bow.
I really appreciate you two fellows. Your take on the news is so much better than any of the other options. Thanks for I hope this comes through liked. Thanks
Great show, as ever! For those who were in the live chat: - About "levity": I could get very serious about levity. Please keep doing it. Am trying to forestall any curmudgeonly comments about this one. Humans have always needed a bit of dry or even dark humour to sweeten the harsher moments of life - mostly in retrospect, but still. It’s important. Especially for those of the British + Irish habit, where the most important subjects need to include humour in oder to be discussed seriously at all. Whether it’s about who does the dishes or about death, in every conflict a bit of sharp & bleak humour has ever saved us from taking ourselves (and each other) way too seriously. And this is a serious and necessary matter… We NEED humour to cope with life. "Please discuss".
I would have been on the live but I was at my oldest son's birthday celebration. I agree about the levity. sometimes the laughter might be hysterical, but better laughing than crying.
T.C. Boyle wrote a humorous short story about competitive beer can collectors searching for the rarest example of a Pre-Columbian brew in ""Quetzlcoatl Lite"."
Agreed about the use - the NEED - for humor in tragedy. I'd respond to anyone offended at joking about that brutal slaughter in Somerset, complete with canibalism, *"What? Too soon?"* But, for me, what made it almost hilarious was the detailed interpretation. When I think of marvelous critics of "official" interpretations of the distant past, another Brit comes to mind. Irving Finkel. Of course. But I'm dwelling on the beginning of a long and splendid program covering many fascinating recent discoveries. Thank you both. I was so in the mood for this 😂
Cyprus is really interesting, especially for the earliest known cat burial ( 7.500 BCE). The wild cat (Felix sylvestris lybica) is not native to Cyprus, so it must have been brought here by boat, probably to protect corn seeds against rodents. They could have originated in Türkiye or Syria. Remains of these wild cats are now also known from a Southern Polish cave, from a Neolithic layer dating from 4.200 BCE. They were not mixed with the indigenous wild cats, which means that they were brought here by early farmers, or followed their tracks. I hope that there will be more evidence for early cats in Europe. They could have been partly the ancestors of our domesticated Felix cattus, and shine some light on the domestication of humans by cats.
Taking offense at someone laughing at traumatic events is a cultural form of prejudice. People in many cultures react in different ways, and laughter during duress or shock can be well accepted as normal behavior.
18:58 what’s the probability that the bodies were placed in the hole at the same time? Why couldn’t it have been done like butchering an individual or two at a time? The potential for a sociopath or psychopath is not out of the realm of probability. I suppose soil analysis could determine the pollen levels to see how long the pit was open and in use before it was covered, to help with the evidence
I love Rupert's new jumper. I would have watched last night but I was at my oldest son's, celebrating his 40th (eek!) birthday! 'than what I am' made me think of Ernie Wise and the plays what he wrote! And 10 seconds to go!
Nice podcast. Enjoy your skeptical takes on some of the analytic leaps taken by the professional archeologists-how can they possibly know whether there was fightback, etc.
The monument for The Great Fire is a telescope. The entire thing is a barrel with lens setting mounts up at the top and in the floor for the basement observatory. It was obsolete the minute it was built, being stationary and all. There was some initial use, not much.
Speaking of prehistoric cannibalism, has anyone heard of the archeological site in New Mexico USA involving the Anasazi tribe. Acts of cannibalism appeared to take place over a long period of time from 1700 bc to 800 Ad. This is a very politically charged topic. An excellent vid put out by Timeline youtube channel says it was a group of Aztecs that invaded the area and performed these acts. Amazing video with compelling evidence that this took place. It was mind blowing
So far as I'm aware, there are quite a few theories going around about on this topic. I'd be very keen to hear if there's ever a definitive one! Also interesting to note that the indigenous people of the area have oral traditions telling them that "very bad things happened there".
@weethree2070 yes, i had heard about the oral history from the tribes in that area. However one point i didn't realize is the Azteca society did exist until 400 yrs after.
For crying out loud, the Sky Disk of Nebra is one of the most thoroughly investigated archaeological objects of the last 25 years. They examined the origins of the copper years ago, not just recently. What was this claim about forgery in the first place? Who made it, and what are their credentials? Is it about someone being offended that one of the oldest astronomical depictions didn’t originate in the Middle East and therefore must be fake?
This tendency of researchers to jump to unsupported conclusions seems to be the rule rather than the exception. It's not surprising, but disturbing nonetheless.
Why do you jump to the conclusion that researchers tend to jump to unsupported conclusions? Who exactly suggests a conclusion has been reached, the researchers or someone reporting the research?
You seem to be overdoing the scepticism here chaps. Modern forensic examination of both living and dead victims of violence has led to knowledge of the sorts of injuries victims of violence, eg domestic, suffer when trying to avoid death. Eg commonly slashing injuries to forearms. I assume the detailed report lists such things that are not evident here.
Why bother to throw the bones away in a pit after defleshing them? Why not just leave them where they were butchered? The bodies of the vikings found in Dorest were just left there.
I am so glad I found you guys! You have been saving my sanity in all the worry about things in America. Ignore the news- go to the prehistory guys!
Same. They are so nice to listen to!
This👆. Man, wish there was an upvote here on UA-cam!
Except for the joking and not taking their work seriously!!
Here's the explanation of the arrows you were wondering about;
- A composite arrow is not that surprising. The reed was used at the rear because it notches well to accommodate the bowstring. The willow for it's flexibility in flight being the main shaft and the harder olive wood at the tip is less likely to split upon impact. I used bamboo, beech, cherry in the same way for those reasons on my last arrow.
- "the arrows may have been coated in birch tar for aesthetic appeal'....Nah it's functional to keep them dry. If those get wet it will seriously affect your shooting. Same with the bow.
I love you guys! The self deprecating British humor is always wonderful. As are Rupert’s sweaters (jumpers). -An American fan girl.
I really appreciate you two fellows. Your take on the news is so much better than any of the other options. Thanks for I hope this comes through liked. Thanks
Great show, as ever! For those who were in the live chat: - About "levity": I could get very serious about levity. Please keep doing it. Am trying to forestall any curmudgeonly comments about this one.
Humans have always needed a bit of dry or even dark humour to sweeten the harsher moments of life - mostly in retrospect, but still. It’s important.
Especially for those of the British + Irish habit, where the most important subjects need to include humour in oder to be discussed seriously at all.
Whether it’s about who does the dishes or about death, in every conflict a bit of sharp & bleak humour has ever saved us from taking ourselves (and each other) way too seriously.
And this is a serious and necessary matter… We NEED humour to cope with life.
"Please discuss".
Nope, nowt to discuss - humour is vital and curmudgeons are to be avoided 😃
I would have been on the live but I was at my oldest son's birthday celebration. I agree about the levity. sometimes the laughter might be hysterical, but better laughing than crying.
One of these days someone will send you "Mick Aston jumpers" and knitted hats of many colours.
Bronze age victims cannibalized: insert joke about British food here
More please! Love you Two
T.C. Boyle wrote a humorous short story about competitive beer can collectors searching for the rarest example of a Pre-Columbian brew in ""Quetzlcoatl Lite"."
Thank you for your sense of humour. Please stay the way you are.
Merry Christmas to you both and all the best for your adventures in 2025 🎉
If I could subscribe multiple times I would. The Punch and Judy joke alone would drive me to multiples. :)
Agreed about the use - the NEED - for humor in tragedy. I'd respond to anyone offended at joking about that brutal slaughter in Somerset, complete with canibalism, *"What? Too soon?"* But, for me, what made it almost hilarious was the detailed interpretation. When I think of marvelous critics of "official" interpretations of the distant past, another Brit comes to mind. Irving Finkel. Of course. But I'm dwelling on the beginning of a long and splendid program covering many fascinating recent discoveries. Thank you both. I was so in the mood for this 😂
Cyprus is really interesting, especially for the earliest known cat burial ( 7.500 BCE). The wild cat (Felix sylvestris lybica) is not native to Cyprus, so it must have been brought here by boat, probably to protect corn seeds against rodents. They could have originated in Türkiye or Syria. Remains of these wild cats are now also known from a Southern Polish cave, from a Neolithic layer dating from 4.200 BCE. They were not mixed with the indigenous wild cats, which means that they were brought here by early farmers, or followed their tracks. I hope that there will be more evidence for early cats in Europe. They could have been partly the ancestors of our domesticated Felix cattus, and shine some light on the domestication of humans by cats.
Correction: cat's domestication of humans... 😸😹
In America, rice beer is called "Coors". . .
and Coors is a big part of the death of Bass Ale.
Taking offense at someone laughing at traumatic events is a cultural form of prejudice. People in many cultures react in different ways, and laughter during duress or shock can be well accepted as normal behavior.
18:58 what’s the probability that the bodies were placed in the hole at the same time? Why couldn’t it have been done like butchering an individual or two at a time? The potential for a sociopath or psychopath is not out of the realm of probability. I suppose soil analysis could determine the pollen levels to see how long the pit was open and in use before it was covered, to help with the evidence
The rarity of the sky disc shows how many time objects have been recycled into something new.
I love Rupert's new jumper. I would have watched last night but I was at my oldest son's, celebrating his 40th (eek!) birthday! 'than what I am' made me think of Ernie Wise and the plays what he wrote! And 10 seconds to go!
Nice podcast. Enjoy your skeptical takes on some of the analytic leaps taken by the professional archeologists-how can they possibly know whether there was fightback, etc.
The multi material arrows are really fascinating.
your voices cut into each other(s) great show
Michael, Colds are caused my viruses, not being cold. :). love your show :)
Cold weather lowers immunity in the nose increasing susceptibility to colds.
The monument for The Great Fire is a telescope. The entire thing is a barrel with lens setting mounts up at the top and in the floor for the basement observatory.
It was obsolete the minute it was built, being stationary and all. There was some initial use, not much.
Thanks guys you 🪨
Speaking of prehistoric cannibalism, has anyone heard of the archeological site in New Mexico USA involving the Anasazi tribe. Acts of cannibalism appeared to take place over a long period of time from 1700 bc to 800 Ad. This is a very politically charged topic. An excellent vid put out by Timeline youtube channel says it was a group of Aztecs that invaded the area and performed these acts. Amazing video with compelling evidence that this took place. It was mind blowing
So far as I'm aware, there are quite a few theories going around about on this topic. I'd be very keen to hear if there's ever a definitive one! Also interesting to note that the indigenous people of the area have oral traditions telling them that "very bad things happened there".
@weethree2070 yes, i had heard about the oral history from the tribes in that area. However one point i didn't realize is the Azteca society did exist until 400 yrs after.
My first thought was how did they know it was revenge
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57:19 or does a burning building collapse causing wounds to the dead?
Pottery not needed to brew beer. Gobeckly Tepe brewed beer in stone vats. Party hearty boyos!
do the lines on Ruperts jumper representing strata in history
Joining from Georgia, the state not the country! Cheers!
For crying out loud, the Sky Disk of Nebra is one of the most thoroughly investigated archaeological objects of the last 25 years. They examined the origins of the copper years ago, not just recently. What was this claim about forgery in the first place? Who made it, and what are their credentials? Is it about someone being offended that one of the oldest astronomical depictions didn’t originate in the Middle East and therefore must be fake?
Rupert needs Starlink
No never
There is a misspelling in the video title
Since the Himmelscheibe von Nebra was found, I've always thought there was something fishy going on. Just a notion.
Why?
@karlkarlos3545 as I said, just a notion. No reason
@@medievalladybird394 Yeah, who needs reasons, am I right? Funny that you missed the part where the false claim was debunked.
@karlkarlos3545 funny, isn't it just that.
That jumper is so bad im calling the fashion police, charity shop wouldnt take that as a donation 😂
I only come here to listen to Rupert's giggles.
This tendency of researchers to jump to unsupported conclusions seems to be the rule rather than the exception. It's not surprising, but disturbing nonetheless.
Why do you jump to the conclusion that researchers tend to jump to unsupported conclusions? Who exactly suggests a conclusion has been reached, the researchers or someone reporting the research?
@@44point5 We must not have been watching the same video.
@@ariochiv I'd say we're using different dictionaries. In mine, Merriam Webster, speculation and conclusion are not synonymous.
Dollars?
"Nobody* needs starlink. Please do not support that 🎄 🎉.
Comes in handy when the Dictators cut you off from communication.
It's also very handy after a disaster when you need to access communication to ask for help.
@oldlifter530 those dictators now own all the means of communication.
You seem to be overdoing the scepticism here chaps. Modern forensic examination of both living and dead victims of violence has led to knowledge of the sorts of injuries victims of violence, eg domestic, suffer when trying to avoid death.
Eg commonly slashing injuries to forearms. I assume the detailed report lists such things that are not evident here.
Why bother to throw the bones away in a pit after defleshing them? Why not just leave them where they were butchered? The bodies of the vikings found in Dorest were just left there.
If you want to to er the village you would want to clean up your mess a bit