In listening to this, and many other podcasts on this subject, I’ve heard it talked about where people go to a doctor for help with an issue that they don’t know what the cause is. The doctor gives them a diagnosis or says something which ends up giving the person the “voodoo curse” and they don’t heal. My own personal experience with this was I was experiencing dizziness spells occasionally, the last of which was so bad I had my wife take me to the hospital. They couldn’t find anything wrong and advised me to follow up with my personal physician. He prescribed me two tests and when he reviewed the results, he stated he could find nothing wrong with me. I should note, he did not try to keep digging in an effort to find something that ultimately wasn’t there. And I haven’t had a dizziness episode since. I didn’t get the voodoo curse.
Bless you for sharing these messages! The brain is not the "Bad Guy," it just needs to be soothed, educated, and redirected. It took me years to accomplish this, but what a blessing that I did... and so wrote a song about it. :-) "Avast There, Brain!" Hoping to share it with more people so we can all join the work of spreading these important messages. Thank you again!
I have been suspicious that the foot pain I've been experiencing for years has an emotional link and this interview has made it clearer. Today I went to a PT to start therapy again and I showed her my last MRI. She said the MRI is weird because everything seems to be pretty much ok. I know I have balance and lack of strength issues and I don't know how to approach my healing. I can see there is an emotional component but how do I start? I'm so ready to be pain free!
Well let me say I have been familiar with Dr Sarno's work for many years and I definitely consider myself an athlete! I'm also a huge fan of Charlie Merrill and I've listened to him on quite a few podcasts and actually talked to him on the phone when I had an Achilles injury! Great guy and this was an excellent interview with some great questions and I want to say thank you for asking them! And as far as the age thing I am 67 years old and I work out daily I have to say much of that is attributed to the work of these great clinicians!
It’s hard when the symptoms hit hard hard and I put a lot into just even getting up I stay laying down util I feel a bit better plz lord help me get through this help me trust you again
Thank you so much for another wonderful podcast. You have such a gift for teaching and especially coaching. Your work with me was so transformative and you always had such an intuition for how to tackle my unique experiences that arose during our sessions together! I definitely encourage others to work with Jenn, you will not find a more gifted coach/ guide to help you heal!!!
You’ve made me think of a good challenge… everyone should write their favorite quote from each episode in the comments. I think it would be helpful for everyone!
Lovely interview, you ask such great questions. Have you done any interviews that discuss pots? Or interviews that go more into sensations that are visible and 24/7 but stem from nervous system dysregulation
Not specifically on pots - but this one is about crps and visible symptoms. Tamara & Rita - Healing from CRPS & more. ua-cam.com/video/rTQSaUKlPVg/v-deo.html I do believe POTS is definitely mind body though.
Thank you! Love the questions. One more. What are good strategies if your conditioned response is a stationary condition like sitting - not movement? And it is (mostly) delayed?
It’s really hard to answer these questions over UA-cam/ message because I don’t know your duration and like Charlie mentions - collaboration is key. If it was me I would use incremental exposure to sitting - with words of safety. I would introduce sitting in interesting surprising ways, while doing fun or interesting things. But again, I personally would start small and do it consistently.
So, recovery from mind-body pain disorders in set-setting specific and psychologically conditional? Must be so many neural chemical variables involved it's staggering to contemplate!
What about bad results from overdoing it? I have a diagnosis of RSI and started painting again and did far too much and crashed. Now everything is tight, painful and weak
When I had symptoms that I wasn’t sure about, I used curiosity to see if I could treat it like mind body. I would be curious to hear Charlie’s opinion on this but I don’t think he’s checking my social media.
I've been diagnosed by a specialist in UK without genetic testing in stretchy skin hypomobility gerlings sign etc and it's related to Asperger's which I now no I have and I've just lost my.mum.ti severe ms who obvously had Asperger's detached retinas prolapses etc threw life but it also means we're.sarnos ultra perfectionist IDE like to no how many who have Asperger's who have TMS albeit alot undiagnosed
@@Truerealism747I’ve wondered that too. I have autism and TMS. I think having autism makes us much more likely to develop TMS because of the way our nervous systems are wired.
@@CarrieLeighSandoval yes I didn't no I had it until lost my mum to severe ms heds to heds comes with autism MY grandfather had it but had such peaceful life he had very little TMS he even had a slipped disc was better in 6 weeks he always Said to me and mum always pick a partner with wide eyes apart what he was saying is autism albeit we didn't no though think there's more pain with auadd to my father obvously has ADHD without autism and he had CFS and all his sister's have fybromyalgia but they all have ADHD without autism do you have ADHD to the link is OCD to.the pain PT has autism and he has had bad TMS.Alot are undiagnosed.DO you have heds to what are your TMS symptoms we are sarnos ultra perfectionist s
@@Truerealism747I was always sick as a kid. Would literally make myself sick to get out of school because it was terrifying to me. When I had to go I would just sit by myself and watch and try to figure out how to be a human. I would get strep and colds all the time and had to go to the doctor frequently. When I wasn’t sick doctors told my parents my symptoms were all in my head. I was also a competitive gymnast during this time and the perfectionism was reinforced to the point that I would bang my head against things when I made the slightest mistake. I was diagnosed and medicated for a bunch of stuff as a teenager. ADHD, PTSD, OCD, bipolar disorder, and probably some other things I forgot, but no one ever suggested autism because I’m a female and it’s a “boy thing.” I figured it out in my early 20s, but it wasn’t until my son got diagnosed a few years ago that I really started accepting it. During the diagnostic process I would’ve answered the questions for myself almost exactly the same way as I did for him. But yeah TMS started in childhood, but I wasn’t diagnosed with fibromyalgia until about 10 years ago after going through the same BS with doctors I did when I was younger. I’m sorry about your mum. I lost my dad a little over a year ago.
“If you try to ignore it the brain just turns it up louder” SO good.
Right?!
In listening to this, and many other podcasts on this subject, I’ve heard it talked about where people go to a doctor for help with an issue that they don’t know what the cause is. The doctor gives them a diagnosis or says something which ends up giving the person the “voodoo curse” and they don’t heal. My own personal experience with this was I was experiencing dizziness spells occasionally, the last of which was so bad I had my wife take me to the hospital. They couldn’t find anything wrong and advised me to follow up with my personal physician. He prescribed me two tests and when he reviewed the results, he stated he could find nothing wrong with me. I should note, he did not try to keep digging in an effort to find something that ultimately wasn’t there. And I haven’t had a dizziness episode since. I didn’t get the voodoo curse.
That’s awesome. I’m so glad you didn’t fall into the fear- dizziness cycle.
Bless you for sharing these messages! The brain is not the "Bad Guy," it just needs to be soothed, educated, and redirected. It took me years to accomplish this, but what a blessing that I did... and so wrote a song about it. :-) "Avast There, Brain!" Hoping to share it with more people so we can all join the work of spreading these important messages. Thank you again!
I have learnt so much because of this pain and found so many amazing people on youtube because of this.
You are such a blessing from the LORD.... thank you for sharing your faith and healing journey...
Welcome!
2,000 subscribers!!! Yay and yay!
Right!? I can’t believe it! Time to celebrate! 🎉 🙏🙌🏻
I have been suspicious that the foot pain I've been experiencing for years has an emotional link and this interview has made it clearer. Today I went to a PT to start therapy again and I showed her my last MRI. She said the MRI is weird because everything seems to be pretty much ok. I know I have balance and lack of strength issues and I don't know how to approach my healing. I can see there is an emotional component but how do I start? I'm so ready to be pain free!
Start by using curable (an app) or read the book unlearn your pain by Howard Schubiner. And keep watching all the interviews on my podcast!
Well let me say I have been familiar with Dr Sarno's work for many years and I definitely consider myself an athlete! I'm also a huge fan of Charlie Merrill and I've listened to him on quite a few podcasts and actually talked to him on the phone when I had an Achilles injury! Great guy and this was an excellent interview with some great questions and I want to say thank you for asking them! And as far as the age thing I am 67 years old and I work out daily I have to say much of that is attributed to the work of these great clinicians!
Thank you!😊
It’s hard when the symptoms hit hard hard and I put a lot into just even getting up I stay laying down util I feel a bit better plz lord help me get through this help me trust you again
Yes, it’s hard to think psychologically - beyond the symptoms. But that’s where the healing is if they are neuroplastic in nature.
Thank you so much for another wonderful podcast. You have such a gift for teaching and especially coaching. Your work with me was so transformative and you always had such an intuition for how to tackle my unique experiences that arose during our sessions together!
I definitely encourage others to work with Jenn, you will not find a more gifted coach/ guide to help you heal!!!
Wow, thank you!
So good! I loved this interview. You both just make the concepts so easy to understand. Thanks for all you do!!!
Glad you enjoyed it Jen!
Loved this podcast! Thank you for all you do. Where are your show notes and the 2 videos?
Im so glad you enjoyed it. The video links are in the show notes. Can you not see the notes?
I don’t know where to find the show notes.
@@patriciamartin4630 oh I see. Right below the video title is the show notes. If you click on more…. You can open your the notes.
Do the thing that causes pain in a somewhat different way and use different neural pathways. (around 31minutes in). I like that!
Right?! Love it.
You’ve made me think of a
good challenge… everyone should write their favorite quote from each episode in the comments. I think it would be helpful for everyone!
Great interview!
Right?! He’s great.
Love your talks Jen, thanks❣️
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this was a really awesome interview and I learned so much to help myself, thank you💕
So glad!
This was so great - many thanks to both of you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Lovely interview, you ask such great questions. Have you done any interviews that discuss pots? Or interviews that go more into sensations that are visible and 24/7 but stem from nervous system dysregulation
Not specifically on pots - but this one is about crps and visible symptoms. Tamara & Rita - Healing from CRPS & more.
ua-cam.com/video/rTQSaUKlPVg/v-deo.html
I do believe POTS is definitely mind body though.
Uhhh movement causes my pain 🙄 tailbone to feet. My feet turn red or BLUE two minutes into standing 😞
Great discussion, thx Jen
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Thank you! Love the questions. One more. What are good strategies if your conditioned response is a stationary condition like sitting - not movement? And it is (mostly) delayed?
It’s really hard to answer these questions over UA-cam/ message because I don’t know your duration and like Charlie mentions - collaboration is key. If it was me I would use incremental exposure to sitting - with words of safety. I would introduce sitting in interesting surprising ways, while doing fun or interesting things. But again, I personally would start small and do it consistently.
so good
Thank you!
So, recovery from mind-body pain disorders in set-setting specific and psychologically conditional? Must be so many neural chemical variables involved it's staggering to contemplate!
Would love his input on more foot conditions specifically Morton’s neuroma. Is it curable through mind body?
I don’t think he is checking the comments on my channel - but you’re free to email him directly. See the show notes for his contact.
What about bad results from overdoing it? I have a diagnosis of RSI and started painting again and did far too much and crashed. Now everything is tight, painful and weak
Sounds like TMS but you can take the pain test on my website to help you rule it in. Thoughtbythoughthealing.com
Have you since done a podcast with a person who has (had) Ehlers Danlos?
Not yet!
Do you believe frozen shoulder is a form of TMS? Thank you!
Yes, i would like to know that too
When I had symptoms that I wasn’t sure about, I used curiosity to see if I could treat it like mind body.
I would be curious to hear Charlie’s opinion on this but I don’t think he’s checking my social media.
Thank you, I appreciate the response. I would be very curious if his response as well. I will try and reach out to him.
What about deliverance?
This podcast wasn’t about deliverance.
Hey Jen!! If you’re interested, I have cured my chronic pelvic pain through TMS work. Let me know if you are in need of another interview!
Hey gabby, can you shoot me an email?
Thoughtbythoughthealing@gmail.com
41:01 The brain will create pain to take that (stressful) thing away from you
Yes! Our brain wants to protect us and it’ll do it in any way possible even if it’s not the best plan.
But EDS is genetic. Why would anybody diagnose someone with EDS before the genetic testing was done?
I've been diagnosed by a specialist in UK without genetic testing in stretchy skin hypomobility gerlings sign etc and it's related to Asperger's which I now no I have and I've just lost my.mum.ti severe ms who obvously had Asperger's detached retinas prolapses etc threw life but it also means we're.sarnos ultra perfectionist IDE like to no how many who have Asperger's who have TMS albeit alot undiagnosed
@@Truerealism747I’ve wondered that too. I have autism and TMS. I think having autism makes us much more likely to develop TMS because of the way our nervous systems are wired.
@@CarrieLeighSandoval yes I didn't no I had it until lost my mum to severe ms heds to heds comes with autism MY grandfather had it but had such peaceful life he had very little TMS he even had a slipped disc was better in 6 weeks he always Said to me and mum always pick a partner with wide eyes apart what he was saying is autism albeit we didn't no though think there's more pain with auadd to my father obvously has ADHD without autism and he had CFS and all his sister's have fybromyalgia but they all have ADHD without autism do you have ADHD to the link is OCD to.the pain PT has autism and he has had bad TMS.Alot are undiagnosed.DO you have heds to what are your TMS symptoms we are sarnos ultra perfectionist s
@@Truerealism747I was always sick as a kid. Would literally make myself sick to get out of school because it was terrifying to me. When I had to go I would just sit by myself and watch and try to figure out how to be a human. I would get strep and colds all the time and had to go to the doctor frequently. When I wasn’t sick doctors told my parents my symptoms were all in my head. I was also a competitive gymnast during this time and the perfectionism was reinforced to the point that I would bang my head against things when I made the slightest mistake. I was diagnosed and medicated for a bunch of stuff as a teenager. ADHD, PTSD, OCD, bipolar disorder, and probably some other things I forgot, but no one ever suggested autism because I’m a female and it’s a “boy thing.” I figured it out in my early 20s, but it wasn’t until my son got diagnosed a few years ago that I really started accepting it. During the diagnostic process I would’ve answered the questions for myself almost exactly the same way as I did for him. But yeah TMS started in childhood, but I wasn’t diagnosed with fibromyalgia until about 10 years ago after going through the same BS with doctors I did when I was younger. I’m sorry about your mum. I lost my dad a little over a year ago.