Hold up! Other than being bare bright doesn't it need to be 14 gauge or bigger? Even if the wire is free from any coating and it's clean bright shiny if it's less than 14 gauge it's not number 1
generally bare, bright wires have to be at least 12 gauge or bigger. Anything that’s more than that is considered hair wire, and generally goes as a number one tubing.
I found some bare copper cable, but unlike other cables I found its kinda springy. I also found copper wire that was maybe a 12/14AWG bare twisted wire formed into a wire net tube shape, kinda hard to describe but that was springy just like the thick cable I found. Wonder what type of copper it is. Really just want to know the alloy and what percent is copper, I'm just melting it down, but don't want to mix it with the pure electical copper if its not pure copper like electrical wire is. Any idea what it could be?
Some places put #1 as #2 if it is smaller than 14 AWG even if it is bare bright copper. That's usually because they know small wires will lose more copper in the melting process that bigger wires.
If you were to smelt down all the number 2 into ingots would that raise the price to number 1 and how do scrap yards feel about getting it in ingot form?
No, the ingots would not be received well by a scrap yard. When you are smelting down the copper, there is going to be some impurities that are mixed in which would not make it a #1 price. However every yard is different, so we suggest checking with yours.
You have to skim off the impurities. Which you can NEVER get all impurities out, but you can get enough out to turn into #1. IF, you know what you're doing.....
Even if you could get it to be absolutely pure, small wire lose a significant amount of the copper (weight) during smelting so the weight of your 100% pure ingot to sell as #1 might only bring what the full weight would bring as #2 So you are doing work with little or no gain to show for it.
Yes they would but what these yards or channels don't tell you is that the electric motor/TV wire is actually an alloy. I have a furnace that reaches 2600-2700°f and it still will not liquidate it. Some say its because of the coating they put on it but that is false.
We aren't too familiar with what "roster" cord is. If the copper on the inside has a coating on it, it's going to be #2 IF you strip it. If it doesn't it will be a bare bright #1 copper price. Check out our metal guide for some details and pictures to help: iscrapapp.com/metals/
I know I’m late to the video but I’ve been stripping and cutting copper wire that varies in diameter and putting it into a bucket mixed. Is this a bad idea?
Never late on scrap! If you are stripping the copper wire and it is bare, you can group all of it together in one bucket regardless of the diameter of it. Let us know if you have any other questions. Thanks!
Don't mix it even if it's all stripped and shiny. Bad idea for you but good idea for for scrap yards as they will be glad to pay you #2 Just separate all that has individual strands pencil thickness or bigger to maximise your profit. Bare bright #1 pays more.
Usually has to be thicker than a #2 pencil lead to get #1 copper price. Unless they are buying it terribly cheap, they won't say anything about it because they are buying it way under price.
There is a difference in bare bright and #1. Not so informative for the scrapper. I'm sure the yard loves it when bare bright and number 1 are mixed 😂.
No scrap yard in my area will give # 1 price for wire that thin, no matter how clean it is
Time to save and find a new yard.
Never found a scrap yard that pays bare bright #1 wire for wire less than 14 gauge no matter where your from
some of the wire around that york isn't always copper wire because it can be aluminum wire with a copper coating on it
Yokes are always copper. I think you are referring to the coil around the picture tube. Those can be copper or aluminum.
Thank you for uploading this video it’s very helpful.
Is there a #1 and #2 smelter? Or is it just one big pot?
Hold up! Other than being bare bright doesn't it need to be 14 gauge or bigger? Even if the wire is free from any coating and it's clean bright shiny if it's less than 14 gauge it's not number 1
generally bare, bright wires have to be at least 12 gauge or bigger. Anything that’s more than that is considered hair wire, and generally goes as a number one tubing.
I found some bare copper cable, but unlike other cables I found its kinda springy. I also found copper wire that was maybe a 12/14AWG bare twisted wire formed into a wire net tube shape, kinda hard to describe but that was springy just like the thick cable I found. Wonder what type of copper it is. Really just want to know the alloy and what percent is copper, I'm just melting it down, but don't want to mix it with the pure electical copper if its not pure copper like electrical wire is. Any idea what it could be?
Some places put #1 as #2 if it is smaller than 14 AWG even if it is bare bright copper.
That's usually because they know small wires will lose more copper in the melting process that bigger wires.
100%, coating doesn't matter if strands are 14 or higher, too much burns off in the melt. It's like adding sawdust to a fire.
If you were to smelt down all the number 2 into ingots would that raise the price to number 1 and how do scrap yards feel about getting it in ingot form?
No, the ingots would not be received well by a scrap yard. When you are smelting down the copper, there is going to be some impurities that are mixed in which would not make it a #1 price. However every yard is different, so we suggest checking with yours.
You have to skim off the impurities. Which you can NEVER get all impurities out, but you can get enough out to turn into #1. IF, you know what you're doing.....
Ronnie Hartley Yes, it is VERY difficult to get all the impurities out.
Even if you could get it to be absolutely pure,
small wire lose a significant amount of the copper (weight) during smelting
so the weight of your 100% pure ingot to sell as #1
might only bring what the full weight would bring as #2
So you are doing work with little or no gain to show for it.
Yes they would but what these yards or channels don't tell you is that the electric motor/TV wire is actually an alloy. I have a furnace that reaches 2600-2700°f and it still will not liquidate it. Some say its because of the coating they put on it but that is false.
Great info, thanks for sharing.😎😎🔥🔥⛏⛏
No problem 👍
the wire around that york since it was in a tv i say it's aluminum with a copper coating on it
I say you're wrong. They are copper and the word FYI is YOKE. you're welcome
Damn I needed that info thanks
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Could you tell me if I strip a say a roster cord is it #1or#2 copper
We aren't too familiar with what "roster" cord is. If the copper on the inside has a coating on it, it's going to be #2 IF you strip it. If it doesn't it will be a bare bright #1 copper price. Check out our metal guide for some details and pictures to help: iscrapapp.com/metals/
I know I’m late to the video but I’ve been stripping and cutting copper wire that varies in diameter and putting it into a bucket mixed. Is this a bad idea?
Never late on scrap! If you are stripping the copper wire and it is bare, you can group all of it together in one bucket regardless of the diameter of it. Let us know if you have any other questions. Thanks!
Don't mix it even if it's all stripped and shiny. Bad idea for you but good idea for for scrap yards as they will be glad to pay you #2 Just separate all that has individual strands pencil thickness or bigger to maximise your profit. Bare bright #1 pays more.
So if I melt them down to ingots, (The #2) what kinda price do I get once melted into ingots?
We don't suggest melting them down, because some scrap yards don't accept them because they don't know exactly what is inside.
@@iScrapApp i ment more of does it become #1 or #2? I have a buyer for them just want to know what to expect
Awesome info, thanks
How much of a difference per pound is there usually between #1 and #2?
Can be anywhere from $0.10-0.30/lb. difference.
i have blue and copper and blue wires as well... any ideas? :D
Those are normally going to go as a #2 copper.
a Very useful info, thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Ah man!! I've been just bunching it all together in one big lot! I had no idea some of the copper I had could go for #1! Thanks for the info!
+starpointstudios You're very welcome! Thanks for watching!
starpointstudios some yards just count all stripped wire the same unless it’s burnt or dark
Dont be fooled on what they tell you. Electric motor and tv strands are in fact not just coated.
Usually has to be thicker than a #2 pencil lead to get #1 copper price. Unless they are buying it terribly cheap, they won't say anything about it because they are buying it way under price.
Exactly
Couldn’t you just melt it all down and then it would become level one copper?
No we never suggest melting something down yourself a lot of scrap yards will pay less or not even buy them.
Refreshing to hear another woman into scrapping
There is a difference in bare bright and #1. Not so informative for the scrapper. I'm sure the yard loves it when bare bright and number 1 are mixed 😂.
Here's an updated version of this video that we did - ua-cam.com/video/tpKnUuWfb7A/v-deo.html
Let us know if you're still confused 😊
The intro gave me cancer.