Why Scania Made The V8 - And Kept It Through All These Years
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- Why Scania Made The V8 - And Kept It Through All These Years
All truck enthusiasts know about the famous Scania V8 engine, but why was it invented and why have they kept it through all these years.
That and much more you will get the answer to in this video
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00:00 Start
00:21 The First V8 was made
01:29 The V8 Legendary Engine sound
01:47 The V8 in 1995
02:22 The 16.4L was born
02:56 The R730 was born
03:46 The New generation V8
04:27 V8 in the future?
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As an American, this is the most American thing I’ve seen that’s not in America.
So true 😂👍
Funny that you say this. The 14.2 and 16.4 liter V8’s were originally co-developed with Mack, and Scania actually made the first 15,000 cylinder heads for the Thermodyne 11.0 liter I6’s while Mack made Scania’s V8 blocks while Scania worked with the cylinder heads. Mack and Scania were very buddy-buddy until Mack got bought out by Volvo.
@@yaboileeroy3038 🤓
@@lxcy. oh shut up, what do you know about trucks, this guy comes to watch a vid about something they totaly dont know, then call others nerda for knowing something they dont, well damn that' makes every mechanic a nerd ig
Wait until you find out about Stadium Super Trucks
I do containers in Canada, recently delivered a bunch of Scania engines to an industrial shop for off road use. Looks like they could fit right in many North American trucks.
The mack e9 and scania v8 came from the same development initially
Wouldn't mind one dumped in my current companies dirt-liners
They will fit. Anywhere we have an I6 we also could have had a V6, 8, 12 back in the day. People don’t consider Caterpillar and Detroit built V engines and we put them in trucks for years.
🤣 Don't need a V8. I'm running 600horse with a Cummins isx
All boost no tourqe.
Scania makes me really proud as a Swede 😊 Long live the legendary Scania V8!
I wasn't happy when Saab (cars) and Volvo transferred out of Swedish hands.
Scania är tyvärr också utsålt, ägs av Traton som är en del av Volkswagen. Traton är dock noterade på Stockholmsbörsen. Du som svensk kan enkelt själv köpa och äga en del av Traton om du vill. Ligger på 138kr per aktie ungefär.
@@Jayjay-dq2ic ok?
@@whytube52 Joo så är det tyvärr, men fortfarande kvalitet. Jo det är så aktier funkar.
Here in Africa , its a legend. Our company many years ago were the first company to bring the scania 113 series. We have grown to become one of the biggest transport company in Kenya. It was a wonderful experience maintaining those trucks. The engines roared like the lions of Kenya. The trucks were superb and easy to maintain. We just love them. They are also the favourite trucks in Tanzania too.
It’s worth mentioning that more than 90% of all Scanias produced the last year got the 13 l inline 6. I6’s have better fuel consumption than V8’s. Even for Scania the V8 is a niche thing.
In Canada, I haul 42-43.5T (63.5 T GVW) with 505 hp 13 Lt. In-line 6, averaging much less fuel than bigger displacement/hp trucks losing only a few minutes per 100 km.
What would the V8 700+ HP cost in fuel under same conditions?
You just cannot go wrong with an inline 6
It's not correct to call it a niche thing. Most heavy Scania trucks have v8s. The inline sixes are used more in lighter duty regional trucks.
@@Karkmotuning inline 6 are also used in heavy trucks
@@hank3004 What is the max lbs (or kilogram) for trucks in Canada? (In US it is 82000 lbs I heard). In Europe, especially Finland and Sweden they can be up to 90Tons (90000 kg or 189500 lbs). I can imagine that you need, when clinmbing a mountain road, you'll need more than double the power and torque in comparing to any US truck.
The same for road trains in Australia.
(I can read that you are hauling 42 tons....but I do not know if that is the maximum allowed in your country.)
I'd say that the V8 definitely has a place in their range even as EVs become more and more common. They aren't quite there yet when it comes to really heavy loads and until then there should definitely be room for this legendary engine 😍
"They aren't quite there yet when it comes to really heavy loads..."
The understatement of the year.
@@PistonAvatarGuy He's talking about EVs not being there yet for 50 ton long hauling. Which they aren't, mainly due to infrastructure issues. But also try driving any current EV with a 50 ton load, long hauling through Norway, lol good luck.
Evs are a joke. Theyre grocery getters and virtue signals. Nothing more
EV's aren't even a thing yet
Given that Scania also sells their V8 as a crate engine and some marine variants there is a good chance it will stick around for some time
Never knew Scania had balls like that. I’ve always wondered why they don’t sell these in the US, at least in mass quantities. That 2600 ft lbs with a stock tune is pretty impressive. If I’m not mistaken I believe most 6 cylinders are just shy of that by 200-300 ft lbs.
Scania is a hell of a good truck but here in Brazil now it is impossible for a independent trucker to buy a new truck. It became too far expensive comparing with the freight rates. I'll probably keep driving my 1996 Volvo NL12 EDC until my retirement
thanks for sharing
Concordo c vc sobre o v 8 no brazil.::mas um volvo edc no Brasil tamb ta ficando dificil ver todo dia.. e um dos bicudos mais bonitos q gosto…sem contar o ronco q e facil de identificar q e um volvo..cuide bem dele!!!!aqui nos estados so vemos muito os volvo bicudos com motor d13..:scania ja e dificil ver…mas la na europa o scania v8 manda muito..valeu
Brazil also has ridiculous high import tax on everything, so that makes sense.
@@AgentSmith911 Scania does however have a vehicle production facility in Brazil.
I never could understand why V8 engines disappeared from heavy duty trucks in the US, where the V8 is considered king. Detroit had a 12L 500HP engine, and the sound was glorious. I don't see why they couldn't have come up with new designs (the 53, 71 and 92 series were TWO stroke, so there was no way in hell it could comply with emissions), between CAT, Cummins, and Detroit using four stroke designs.
American trucks have the space for very large inline 6 engines which naturally produce torque more easily than a V type engine. The I6 is also easier to service, the dam things can be rebuilt while still in the frame of the truck. V8 engines suck to service in type engine bays. Scania did what was right for them and their space requirements. It's not the best compromise for all trucks everywhere.
@@mele2904
Why does an inline produce torque more easily than a v-type engine (all things being as equal as possible)? Geometry?
Thanks!
@@MH-zk7hc The way fluid dynamics work, For a like for like total displacement fewer cylinders are going to be a bigger bore. That means more surface area on the piston surface which equals more pressure even if the compression is the same. You can look into hydraulics and pneumatics for some incite on the physics principles.
@@mele2904 Ah, got it. All being equal somehow didn't translate to displacement for me, hehe. I was thinking about the differences in an inline-6 and a V8-engine while having the same displacement per cylinder. Of course that would be 33% more overall, duh.
Thanks.
That’s because the US trucks use Inline 6 designs. Because it’s just better for what it’s needed for compared to the V8… also not saying the V8 is bad it’s just the Inline 6 gets better torque ect…
I'm a truck mechanic, and here in north america, we don't see scanias driving around, or very rarely. We had them at some point but they pulled out in 92, now a days, american manufacturers only make inline 6 for trucks, v8s are extremely rare in our trucks
Thanks for sharing 👍
The Mack v8 is a Scania engine
Well said, the HP rating in the US is typically much higher than other countries. And all with 6 cylinders.
@@ohyeahthatsright3155 US trucks are basically limited at 605hp, while many/ most EU brands go higher than that. scania at 770, volvo at 750, mercedes at 625 and MAN at 640. All apart from Scania use an I6. Average hp for semi's here in europe would be about 500 i think.
@@joshkiej6601 That is some great info Josh. I think with cat Cummins and Detroit are past their V8 days and are not looking back. Detroit was great for big oil with their V6s and V8s and 12s (buzzin dozen).
I live in Ontario Canada.
I seen one by gravenhurst!! Almost broke my neck because he was going the other way!! What a beauty!!
thats not something you see every day :)
I drove a Scania 143m for about three years .....what a truck!! .......loved every moments of it , it was smooth and powerful ...great memories
Drive a Scania everyday at work.
Love the new Gen, it’s Boss
Scania King of The Road
Retired driver and fleet manager here. I enjoy driving around in Euro Truck Simulator 2 in my Scania S with the 750 hp V8, tandem drives, and a steerable mid-lift axle. It can go anywhere and pull anything.
The Scania V8 could be the last V8 in production in a few years, since we’ve all seen that you just can’t haul heavy stuff with electricity for long or even medium distances and that making bio-diesel is much easier than gasoline alternatives.
The new Super series I6 seems like a good buy. They pull like a V8 and use less fuel. Top spec Super engine is the 560 bhp.
I definitely miss the V8 Caterpillars and Detroits of the 70's to the early 90's miss seeing those old beasts on American roads once in a blue moon you will but I remember when those were common place
Like out of mad max..... The last of the V8 interceptor
For heavy hauling I think they will change to a eletric drive train and a range extender like in Lokomotive.
The lack of a complex gearbox and brakes without friction are a big plus.
Trucks that only run in cities and small towns for food delivery and such will become EV very soon (probably 50% market share of new trucks sold by 2030) while long distance trucking will stay diesel for probably another decade or two. But eventually EV trucks will take over.
We drove several SCANIA V - 8 configurations in Europe and Middle East on long distance runs. Economical and powerful concept for heavy haulage and long distance is very good / to be the best in the world. Greetings from the Netherlands. ❤😊
All the top heavy plant transporters in the UK run Scania V8 trucks; Kings of the road!
The 770 V8 has been in production since December 2021. It was not available in 2016 nor it was presented.
The 770 horsepower unit will be available for production in late December 2020, just the NEW generation which came in 2016..
I used to have a 1975 MAN 14304 with the 15.5L D2858MX V8 engine.. no turbo.. no fluid coupling fur the fan, it has a flap blind in Germany of the radiator.. Nice engine. I have no environmental concerns..
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The 142 and 143 all mechanical engines were good,we used to fit overdrive road ranger gearbox’s to them in Australia for express in the 1980s,hard to stop them at 130 kmh with no engine brake or retarders though
you're never late in a Scania V8
It's just an amazing feeling to drive the new Scania nextgen V8 models. Love it. The power seems to be endless and it feels like nothing could stop the truck. 😍👍
Большое, большое спасибо за обзор. Если Scania прекратит выпускать V8, то это будет трагедия вселенского масштаба. Только один король достоин надписи Super, и это тягач с V8. Рядные шестёрки пускай походят в вассалах. Есть конечно исключения из правил, которые подчёркивают сами правила: японские 20-ти литровые дизеля без турбонадува. Но, это отдельная тема. Я думаю, что стоит на японские тягачи обратить внимание.
Engines will always provide the needed torque whose timing brings power.
I just hope that there are similarly powerful transmission systems being developed to match these engines so they can deliver statistics as stipulated!
Thanks so much for making my day as always!
Transmissions are my worry right now and not for a commercial vehicle. I have a new daily driver F450 ordered from Ford and it comes from the factory with 500hp and 1200 lb ft of torque. Praying that the relatively small transmission can handle all that.
Cool vid. Music made it difficult to stay
Some v8 diesels such as the cummins 555 and detroit school bus engine had notiriously weak rod bearings because they were too narrow. Apparently Scania knows how to make a tough one. Big Cat and Mack v8s were stout too.
Never forget that Mack Trucks had a long partnership with Scania to develop those V8s. From the END864 to the ENDTT1000 and then the E9. Mack ended up cutting the V8 out of their production line in 1999...
true.. :)
Isn't Mack a "Volvo" (since at least 30 years)?
@@leiflillandt1488 Yes and no, They are built on the same assemly line but The engines aren't actually interchangable. Mack and Volvo engines have different specs.
I've worked on an MP8 mack and fuel injectors and injector cups are in volvo boxes. I've seen an old one with Renault stamped on the block, the mack midliner cabover was a Renault cab rebadge and kept the Renault engine
I would buy a Scania with a V8 if they were available in the US
nobody says you can not order it online...if we can buy american cars aand ship them to europe...
@@zagrepcanin82 I like that idea! It is worth investigating. Ty
@@CTX50 Unfortunately not possible due to EPA/CARB regulations to have Scania trucks on-road applications in the US.
i see scania"s output well over 1000Hp .. they are stunning engines
They can do 3000 hp and probably more too. But you're not metting emissions standards and definitely not driving it for a million miles without probably 50 rebuilds.
@@rorschacht8478 i know of scania makes 1000hp there in denmark.. an 0 emiisions! at inspection... since the filter always a littile hotter then normal trucks.
But what is your governed speed for your country? For sake of friendly argument. I heard in Europe the trucks can only go as fast as the government will allow 56 mph? Sorry don't know kilometers. So who cares if your truck has 800hp you can't use it because of the nanny Euro government! Move to Texas and drive 80mph! Whoo.🇺🇲
By far....
The best Truck brand in Europe!!
Daf
Ahh, a fanboy. I bet you also have Iphone.
As a Mercedes Enthusiast, the Answer is pretty easy: Because they can! And I am very Happy that Scania still exists unlike Saab
They developed V8 Engine breaking Inline trend....Made improvements in it and still V8 is in use....It means V8 will definitely come up with new needs and modifications, may be more than 770 HP power 😍🔥
Kenfield motors had two V8 towtruck Scania V8 tow and V8 rec, brilliant trucks
I tell people around me to shut up when one of these pass by, especially if mufflers have been removed, it sounds so damn raw
i love how they just kept increasing it over and over, where the cars industry always had to die at every new regulation
huh? this is literally the greatest era of performance the car industry has ever seen
great video truck topia! the scania v8's are rlly fun to drive in ets2
Thanks :)
Music is really helpful 😂
Omg, you showed the scania factory in my tiny dutch city. So happy right now :'')
:)
Very good video. Thanks. I live in London emissions zone. Merc om v8 442 long gone. Thanks. Russell
Thanks 👍
A V block engine had less longevity than an in-line block . But this is a well built engine . Proven through many years
Due to master craftsmanship, a properly maintained V8 Detroit was able to give a million miles over the road , which was more than can be said for others
@@colingrant3553 agreed
Why though? Because of the vibrations?
@@spartacus2954much more complicated and more failure points
Amazing
Because they sound bloody awesome 😅
I notice that scania cabs are like glitched cabs or they reduced the grills for example , the L series one and the topline series , they have huge differences between them
Very good
Don't take it bad, just feedback. The content is good, the music was annoying for me in terms of volume and style.
agree, volume of the music was too loud
Please do a Video why all the other brands dont have v8 engines anymore
scani and V8 this is a religion
There are only 2 types of truck driver's in the world, those who drive a scania and those who want to.
Because simply it is; THE LEGEND!
Squirrel got me into Scania. I'm American. They look do cool, and I like Peterbilts (the boxy ones).
Edit: Right. Finna go binge some Euro Truck Simulator.
Worth to note is that up until not that long ago all swedish industry was part of the "war effort". Which meant that any truck should also conform to "army standards". Since many of them would most likely be part of said war effort.
You won’t find that beast in North America
Some macks had the same engine 14 litter v8
They actually sell them in The US as marine Engines for boats but yeah not in Trucks
The Scania - Vabis DS 11 achieved an output of 275 BHp in 1968 and later the same engine reached 326 BHp. Sincerely, Bjørn Odd Johannessen
I feel that a small engine running on glycerin and have supplemental power extraction from a stirling engine would be an amazing contribution to all systems. all engines would push generators, allowing the total vehicle to run on electric motors.
I would love to see this developed.
Check out Edison Motors right here on UA-cam. You'll find what you're looking for
Two types of truck drivers
Scania drivers and those who wish they were Scania drivers.
Highest torque. Lower fuel usage. Less stress on the drivetrain
They need to manufacture these trucks and ship them to the 🇺🇸 USA. SUPER nice trucks
I am sure will be glittering in future
i love the video but the music is a bit loud
I wish more of the European brand Semi trucks were sold here in America I would love to drive them here in America.
All diesel engines, small and big, can run on HVO without any problem and without any modification. I tried it a lot on my 2011 Hyundai i30 with a 1.6L diesel engine and on my Volvo XC60 D4 2017 with a 2.4L straight 5 cylinder diesel engine. Unfortunately it is very expensive now compared to diesel, it used to be like 10 cents more, now it is more because they are mixing it with the diesel sold in stations in Sweden and probably all over EU so it went up in price..
Nice video, music is a bit to loud.
Yes i know 😅 all new videos, the Music is lowered 👍
С нетерпением жду видео о King of Road.
0:45 back ground song name please 🥺
Love v8, it's sound amazing.
Gotta love a V8
Very interesting, there is anpther vid which emphasises why most truck designs go with an inline big 6, the claimed advantage is the ease of maintenance.
And you dont agree?
@@TruckTropia I am not in the truck business so I don't have a dog in this, but i can't figure out how in such a big vehicle space would be such a consideration. and big 6 maintenance would appear to be easier to sertvice.
@@adoreslaurel the problem is that the engine top is higher than the frame, and inline 8 would be longer than the cab, so the body would need to sit further back(and have a gap to the cab).....volvo solved the problem by just building a giant inline 6
I wish we had Scania V8’s, because the MAN and DAF units we have for pulling fuel tankers are so underpowered..!
Im waiting for the scania s 530 v8. In couple weeks i can step over from the s450. My boss ordered 30 of them
you can make a video on 4 cylinder engines only from US manufacturers
one day i heard one with an open pipe exhaust. Now i want one even if i'm not a truck driver.
I think Scania is the best producer, I don't know why the last time Volvo won but I think the Scania engines are of ultra performance
Coz before Scania's 770 Volvo with his I6(750 hp) was the strongest "stock" truck engine in the world
Scania is the best and so beautiful truck in the world...very good job...just keep going....👌👍👏😘💪
Thanks
Keep making the v8 its a must for big power
Be nice to have something in the USA that isn't junk!
I’m curious what the Serious crash injury vs fatal is compared in European Cabover vs North American Conventional.
Scanias crashtest 6 years ago ua-cam.com/video/BmZIS4GjsTs/v-deo.html
So I learned today that a top model Scania, unladen, must be a blast to drive.
I have driven trucks off and on for over fifty years now. I have driven all sorts here in New Zealand and also in and around Europe. As far as I'm concerned Scania makes the best V8 engine available. I still drive part time and still drive Scania V8s
I really like this engine. and I think that a car without exhaust pipes is not a car at all.
I've All Ways Loved SCANIA Since I Was Little 😍. I'll All Ways Love SCANIA FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE 😍. SCANIA MAKES & BUILDS THE BEST,AWESOME VEHICLES 😍
saying they ''developed'' a new engine that could run biodiesel is a bit of an overstatement.
It is the exact same engine but with a different fuel filter as regular fuel filter would clog up when running bio diesel
These trucks can carry heavier loads but our shitty road needs upgrade too
Fun fact: the 770 Scania only has 770hp in the 2 highest gears, the rest of the gears have 730hp.
Another fun fact: the Volvo 750 engine has 750hp across the entire gear range
Great engine,and sounds great!! I wander what the fuel mileage is.
Cheers from northern indiana usa
Cheers and thanks for commenting 👍
My is on 36 l per 100 km
2km/litre with 53 tonnes
In uk about 7 to 8 mpg. With 730hp
That's amazing with that horsepower. Cheers from northern indiana usa
Do the V8 have an option to add electric motors on crank shaft or rather fly wheel? I've seen mercedes uses those, hi output torque and horsepower with less fuel and better acceleration.
God I wished American truck simulator had the Mack e9 V8 available
... because V8 ist the best engine layout ever!
bc its AWESOME
next video increase background music noise
I think v8 should be utilized for the foreseeable future
Scania's 140 models had a v8 of 14 litres, and for a short time they had a model called 164, and it was the only one that had a 16 liter v8.
Wut?? The 1,2,3 and 4 series all got v8 14 litters(140)(141)(142)(143)(144) ,the 4 series got the 15.6 litter v8 toO named(164)... R Series all got the v8 16.4 litter probably the first r series got the 15.6 but wtv ... and the new R and S lines got an V8 16.4 litter.
the letters after the number only tell you which chassis the car has...140 141 142 143 144 and so on was 14 liters I have driven trucks all my life in Sweden so I know that .
The last number of 140, 141, 142, 143, and 144 is the series. Until Scania decided not to call their new truck the series 5, but to call it their R series.
The first number(s) is the engine.
Example; 144 is a 4 series truck with the 14 litres engine.
In the past Scania used a letter for the chassis. Like the 3 series had a M,E and, H. The H was for extreme conditions like heavy transport. With the 4 series came L (Long distance), D (Distribution), and C (Construction). Nowadays only the cab height and hp is described at the grille.
WERE THERE IS WILL THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A WAY , l just like they still do it even better than before and l like the looks too :)
Imagine a version of the Ford V10 Godzilla? Especially in city applications where there is always a need for power and durability like Northeast America!
I play _Euro Truck Simulator 2_ driving the Scania V8. I don't think it's going anywhere anytime soon.
The V8 engines are my favorite engine setup in cars and trucks so, I think he has it's place in the future, especially since it can run on biodiesel !
Can they bring it to usa markets plz!
Why V8 they sound great. Wish I could have one of them V8 here.
The Scania V8 is probably the best V8 diesel engine for anything below 20 liters They were not just a truck engine they are money makers and ready for anything used in farm equipment boats construction equipment generators operating all over the world even in North America they need to bring their trucks to the us market. As a huge CAT & Cummins guy I must say these engines are highy effiecient and sound good and seem to last for years. especially the 14.2 liter V8 with the V shaped valve covers. For larger medium speed engines EMD 567 is the best.
The Cat 3408 may beat the Scania when it comes to longevity, but Cat service is expensive.
@@rich7447 you are right about that
@@rich7447 unless that can come with 1150hp i dont see how it could stand a chance
@@einar8019 Why would it need to come up with that kind of power? Even specialized super heavy haulers aren't going to be using that much HP. The 3408 drank enough fuel at half that power.
Both are v8 diesels, but the B10 and B50 ratings on the CAT will be higher than the Scania. Personally I prefer the L6 diesels, but my next vehicle purchase is actually a smaller v8 diesel (6.7L).
@@rich7447 boat engines and also used in the CV90 IFV/light tanks but still the same v8
I would imagine an inline 6 hybrid would become common soon
If they find a way to make enough batteries...
Im more the old Actros V8 lover... new scanias have never really convinced me, even if the driving experience is really good and normal
I think in the seventies, unic trucks from italy also had a v8 engine... i think unic turned into iveco trucks...
truck topia : Why Scsnia keeps on v8?
me : Because better than a v8 is a BIGGER V8!!