Well done Sir. I like the way you explain how to do things without all the fancy expensive tools that we can’t afford. Tips along the way, no talking down to us. A pleasure to watch and I even learned some things along the way. Thank you.
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I'm glad you added the sand, I was going to say "heat the cast steel brake drum and weld a floor plate on it, that way you can fill the base with, concrete, gravel, or sand", the heavier the better. That's the beauty of the bolt on pedestal, you can fill it with weight. Nice build!
Yeah, a Mag Drill on a steel plate makes a way better drill press, Nice Job. I built mine about 3 years ago , I never thought of sand in the column, 😃😃😃 Great Video. William Orange County California
The one thing I have on the one I made you might want is a set of wheels on the back to help move it around. I used a set of old disk brakes off an 1980s GMC grain truck. Mine goes about 120lb . I've got a bad back so moving things is always on my mind. Love your stuff.
My grinder is on the shelf with a piece of rubber floor mat under it to absorb the vibration until i mount it 1 day on a stand. Been there for years.... "1 day" Good video. Thank you for your time and knowledge.
Its amazing how long that "1 day" can be...then younthink back and realize its been a few years lol. Thanks for watching and Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays
Hay Brandon I have that same set up , but I have my vice on it instead of my grinder by the way I think your vice and mine might be twins, my grinder has always been mounted on the edge of bench , but l had to raise it about 6 inches to help with my back pain . If I was younger I would set everything up in a horizontally receiver hitch type. then l could use them in different areas . Nice build and stay safe TANK
I ran a 'wanted' ad on Craigslist for some 18 wheeler break drums. People come out of the woodwork and are looking to give these away. Especially if you tell them the project you are going to use them for. Those drums are steel AND cast iron. They are steel where the flat flange with the holes are and the 'drums are cast. When in doubt bolts are the way to go. Nice build and thanks for the tips. It's always nice to see how someone else tackles a common problem.
Man that turned out great! I like how marked center for the post and then punched it so you didn’t lose center when you cleaned it up… That was slick! I love awesome tips and tricks like that, and as always no charge for that tip…😂
I'm finally about to make my bench grinder base. Ive had the parts ready for a year now and I just finally went out today and got some concrete. The base is my old truck drum brakes and a rotor welded together and a piece of tube with some angle iron welded to it so my grinder sits in it nice and tight.
Nice stand. I use old rims flipped so that I weld to the inside and then fill it up with concrete and smooth it out. And those old rims make for very heavy solid stands. But I do like the huge truck brake drum idea as well. If I ever come by one of those, I will snatch it up for such a future stand. Thumbs Up
This is so rad! I need to make this base. My bench vice, grinder and soon tube notcher share the same spot on my bench. I don't use them all at the same time so swapping them out is no big deal. BUT reclaiming that bench space and making a spot for those three tools would be awesome!
I have a vise on a drum like that and put my grinder on a 15" car rim. Its nice to be able to move the vice where I need it, inside or out. I split a fuel line and put it around the car rim on the bottom to take care of the vibration. And the grinder is very portable. Side note you can not have too many vises.
Just shared your video to a post on den of tools on Facebook. Someone was looking for a way to limit vibration on their grinder. Once my shop is up and running this will be a project in the list for me. Thanks
Nicely designed Brandon and it turned out great too. 👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Great tip about dampening the sound and cutting down the vibration also. I still have to get with a scrap yard for the metal and a steel yard for cut offs. Thanks for sharing with us it’s appreciated.
Hey Brandon Greetings from India! Nice build, enjoyed it with early morning coffee. That pedestal is proper Heavy Metal \m/ Good decision to use bolts, I was looking forward to seeing your mag drill press in action. FYI from a noob to other noobs considering auto/agri/railway scrap parts: Over a couple of decades I've used a few tons of this stuff! They're quite different from mild steel, construction steel or rebar. These parts are High-er in carbon content with added chromium, molybdenum or other elements for specific hardness and wear applications. You need to handle them almost like tool steel. They're definitely harder to drill, machine very differently on the lathe and mill, and they eat blunt tools for breakfast. Annular cutters or split point drill bits work best for drilling, very short/stiff ball-nose end mills work best for milling, stiff & sharp HSS bits (with a slight nose radius) are best for turning & facing. If you have access to one, use a "diamond lathe tool holder" also known as a tangential tool holder for any lathe operations. Carbide inserts tend to chip frequently while machining these parts due to variations in surface hardness, hidden weld repairs, or from interrupted cuts. They never weld properly with 6011/6013 rods (guaranteed weld cracks & inclusions). 7018 and stainless 309l welding rods work better (yes, you can use stainless rods with non stainless parts but not the other way around). Tig/mig welding works well with silicon bronze filler material. Almost as good as brazing, so just braze if that's a possibility. A Question for Viewers from various parts of the world: How much does a pound of decent scrap steel cost in your part of the world? I pay the equivalent of 22c (30 Indian rupees) for a kilogram of steel (10c per pound). Considering how steel is traded internationally, prices should be fairly similar even halfway across the world! Although junk isn't really considered junk here, lots of people make their living from buying, repairing, repurposing or selling it for scrap, so your usual market laws apply. Depending on who I buy from and how quickly/badly I want it, sometimes even junk is really expensive (almost as much as new stuff).
i used a brake drum for my bench vise. yost adi 6. went with 3/8 plate and 7/8 bolts every other hole for mounting. pipe was about 4' x .25'. u are right, hard to buy something better. will last a lifetime
Brandon, when you need to weld 1/2 inch go to manual settings and dial in from there you don;t have to stay with synergic settings as the programs go to 1/4 inch on that setting.
Thanks man! If i remember correctly there is also a setting that will add an additional percentage (even if its maxed out but I can't remember the actual setting / function. I usually check out Milky Cerials channel when I get hung up. He has the Fronius setup mastered
@@BrandonLund Really like your grinder stand build. I may miss your next Friday video as i have to go on a moose hunt next week, usually we go for the first week in October , fly in moose hunt but we are getting to old for that so it is a more local hunt. Such it life in British Columbia Canada My neighbour already got a 5x6 elk dressed out a 445 lbs so not bad for a back yard elk . keep those videos coming.
Have had my grinders bolted to a bench for years. About time to free up the space. Have been thinking about it for a while. But I'll finish my morning coffees first. 😁😁 Need to build a slightly bigger version for 3 different grinders. Or just build 3. Hmmm...thinking about it now. Thanks for the motivation I put a oil purifier/desicant unit in line $75. Doubled the life of my consumable on my plasma cutter. About the Mill Drill..that's what my wife said as well. End of that thought.🤣🤣🤣 Nice idea with the sand👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Grinding wheel dressers are fairly cheap and help keep your wheels in pretty good balance and prolong the life of the grinders. Worth investing in I think. About $20 for good ones
Thats a great idea Basil! Ive actually thought about adding a second grinder to this. I was thinking about bolting a wider plate to the current plate then mounting 2 grinders side by side. Just an idea 💡;)
@@BrandonLund Yes I'm kind of thinking that now. Probably going to do 3 separate ones. A 3 in one is going to loose all the space that I'm going to save.
Looks really good Brandon! I like the sand in the tube idea, looks like I'm drilling a hole in my top plate. I also managed to break the cheap cast base to my grinder tightening it down. Took me a few hours, but I managed to make a new one out of steel. Guess I need to calm down a bit when tightening things.
I made something similar years back. The mounting plate was a bloody great 14" square of 20mm (Around 3/4") thick plate (Because it was the only chunky piece of steel I had to hand at the time). I used the extra surface area to build a full width angleable work rest. The post was a length of 3" thick walled pipe, and that was flanged at the end to bolt onto a 15" steel wheel, complete with a very bald tyre. The post bolted to the inside of the wheel (Where the hub and brake disc would have been) so I could fill the space in it with sand bags. It worked really well. It was stable, and the work rest was great for putting neat 45' bevels on plates before welding them........... But a friend kept asking me how much I wanted for the setup, and eventually I needed the money more than I needed the grinder. :( I keep meaning to make another, but my current little hobby workshop is a very cramped space, and I really haven't got the room for it (TBH, I haven't really got enough room for the tools and machines I've already got now !).
Brandon, excellent build! I've done several 'stands' before but I digress, I've never considered filling the tube portion with sand. I've been schooled... GREAT idea!
I've got the same set up except I have two vises mounted on each end. One, I bought from Harbor Freight and the other a blacksmith post vise. Enjoy your videos.
Heck. I never considered that. I've been busting neurons here trying to figure out how to conserve what little room I have and I've been thinking about making a stand for my shop vise and I recently got a leg vise. I never considered having them share one stand. That'll be what I'm going to do. Thanks, brother.
I'm back again, BL! For those who want to write anything negative about a mag drill, I've got a question for you. How do you use your mill when you're faced with large drill work out in the field? Some of us "farmer types" have heavy equipment and trucks that require inverted cutting. In other words, the holes have to be drilled - through thick metal - sideways or upside down. Sure, a mill is great when it's possible to bring the work inside to your mill, but, needless to say, that's not always possible. For example, I recently needed to mount a pair of clevises to the rear of my work truck chassis. I ran a long power cord out to the rear of the truck, fixed our mag drill onto the work and simply drilled the 13/16" holes in a single stroke. Just like that, we were able to pass 3/4" O.D. steel pins - through the truly square holes - in the chassis! When one considers the time required, the wear and tear on tooling and the lack of square one typically experiences with step-drilling, a good mag drill becomes a dream tool! Once again, your Fronius "MIG Rig" is awesome! Where did you get the mag drill's base from? Keep on keepin' on, Brandon! 👍
Thanks buddy! 35 dollars on Marketplace! It started out as a burned out drill press. I got rid of the drill head, modified the column and welded a plate to it. I actually have a video on building it. It's in the same playlist as this video
@@BrandonLund Thanks for the info, BL! As I'm such a hillbilly, I haven't watched many videos, including yours, I'm sorry to say ... and, speaking of being backward, what is "Marketplace"? (seriously) 🤠
Oh dude, it's a goldmine. Facebook Marketplace. I'm slightly addicted. It's an online buying selling site. Anything you can imagine (that's legal) of coarse.
Absolutely love this, I have 2 of those semi drum brake rotors, and been wanting to do this as well. But have to wait after multiple surgeries from truck accidents. But brother you inspire me to get this done as soon as I'm healed, thank you and merry Christmas
I enjoyed your way of doing the task and the way you explained it. My personal preference would be to cut the round with the plasma and insert the tube in the rectangular flange.
As I'm watching this, I like what you have done. I did wonder why not make it with a bigger top plate so you could mount something else on the opposite side? Nice work.
Thanks Scott! Your right about the top. I soon realized that as soon as I started using it. I actually plan to remove the grinder and bolt a wider plate to the existing place so I can fit 2 or 3 grinders in a row to save sapce. If my shop was a little bigger I would probably have it in an open space rather than against the wall so I could have the grinders front to back as you suggested. Thats probably the more functional way of having them.
Cool thing is I just found a big truck wheel that I'll use for a base and about 50 yards away, there's a 5-6 foot piece of rectangular tube with a 1/4" thick base plate. Lemme see what I can do with my handy dandy flux cored welder 👍
I like your idea of making a bigger plate so you can mount 2 grinders. I have my Grinders mounted back-to-back on one plate; smooth and rough stone on one side and wire wheel and buffing wheel on the other. It's not too hard for me to waltz it around when I need to change but mine doesn't weigh over 150 pounds. :)
i am enjoying your builds. They are a lot like what I do around the shop. It is fun once in awhile to step back from the more complicated fabrication and machining to do a quick job that is such a big help around the shop. I just found your channel and am subscribing. Well at least until I see one of those expensive computer plasma tables show up--then I am out of here! Take care. Doug
Thanks Doug. I appreciate your support. You made me laugh with the plasma table comment...that seems to be the theme lately. I totally understand what your saying. I could never justify a plasma table anyways. My shop is too small and not enough demand (even if it was free) 😁
@@BrandonLund your welcome.hey sorry for asking questions but i can't find an answer on Google or UA-cam .was trying to repair my pressure washer pump made a hole on pump made of aluminum and figured ill plug it up with tig .seeing your videos everything looks easy😂 . i was so wrong my tig level is beginner my gas filter keeps turning white and blue from the aluminum material from pressure washer pump material.keep trying to do what i seen on your videos and i keep failing.puzzled
It sounds like contamination. In which case you need to ensure the part is clean and v out. It could also be a magnesium alloy. Grab some white vinegar and put some on the metal casting. If its an aluminum alloy it will do nothing. If its a magnesium alloy it will fizz. 4043 would probably be the best filler if you determine its an aluminum alloy.
Good job Brandon, looks great and also sounds quieter than it would have done without the sand! That said, for thick steel I personally prefer a stick welder.
I agree 100% stick is my favorite process too but this was the first time maxing this machine (well almost, I could have pushed it a bit further with advanced settings) but I wanted to see how it did.
what is that table that moves up and down in this video? Its the one you built the stand on. I want to build a sit stand welding table and that looked like you had already done that.
@David Boudreau It's a pneumatic lift table. Here is the video of me setting it up ua-cam.com/video/hgtN1wTfQno/v-deo.html and here is the ink to the lift amzn.to/30cTaiu
You could slice open a piece of rubber hose for the bottom of the brake drum so that you don't get a rusty circle on the floor, or put an old mud flap under it.
amzn.to/3O57eAq You wont be disappointed if you build the stand. I wouldn't change anything other than maybe adding a wider top for 2 or 3 grinders. The link is the metal marker I use
@@BrandonLund thank you very much. I may make a video some day and if so I’ll show the stand when I build it. Gonna start it soon as I’m done polishing my dad’s very old axe. Thanks again for the link
How do you like that grinder? It's HF right? Does it big down easy or get really hot fast? I have a basic 6" from HF and it will big down super easy if you press into it at all. Also gets really hot fast. It's still usable but I want something with more power.
@Christopher Salisbury I love it. It's the 8" model from HF. It doesn't really bog down for what I use it for and I've had it for a while and it never gets hot.
It’s a fifth wheel axle off probably the 2nd rear wheel And yes they are cast iron the thing about cast iron is yo u can weld it with 6011 Smaw rod welding
Nice build. Just a thought, try moving the grinding wheels into different positions (clock-wise, one side at a time) to see if maybe you can get the heavy part of the wheel(s) to self balance. You may also want to try, turning one grinding wheel say clock wise, and the other one counter clock wise to find a balance that works. I would make a single mark (line / dot) on each wheel(s) to aid in letting you know just how much or little you have moved the wheel. I'm not gonna say this will solve your out of balance problem, (it just may) but it should improve it from where your grinding machine is presently dealing with. You can hear it in the video. good luck. Cost is only maybe 15 minutes of your time.
A lot easier is to use a steel car wheel. Use 2 lengths of angle, one on either side of the tube, welded to the wheel & tube. Fill with concrete if necessary.
@Troy Rhoads no particular reason. I actually use flux core a lot on the channel and I promote it quite frequently because I feel like folks just starting out get the false impression that MIG is somehow better than self shielded. They each have their application but one is not better than the other in my opinion. I like to switch things up just to keep myself sharp. As you mentioned, flux core would have been ideal on this project.
Pick up a wheel dresser it will take away some of the vibration. Be sure to wear a hood when dressing the 2heels though. A pair of saftey glasses dont quite do the job.
Great advise. I actually have dressed them a few times and it helped a lot but its still pretty bad. I was concerned when I bought the grinder thinking the shafts were bent. I checked for runout and they were straight. I need to break down and buy some quality discs.
I'm not. This mask is the industry standard for welding if your not using a PAPR. From 3M's website "The 3M 2097 P100 Filters fit on the 3M 6000 and 3M 7500 Series Half Masks, as well as the 3M 6000 Full Face Respirators. HEPA filtration is rated to remove 99.9% of particles .3 microns and larger. This includes most welding fumes (burnt metal), toxic dusts, like asbestos and lead". Like I said, its what welders use if your not using PAPR.
Sorry I typed the below message before watching the video bear with me I'm old and senile. When you say scrap yard are you saying metal recycler? Like up my way we have one named AIM, Amercian Industrial Metal. I have wondered if they would sell me some scrap steel. How do you come up with a fair price for what you buy? Do you pay like half the cost of new or do they see it to you buy the pound in some fashion? Great site good job, JeffinMaine.
Yes when I say "scrap yard" I'm refering to both places. Metal recyclers and metal suppliers. BOTH places will generally sell thier scraps for "by the pound" prices. It's been a while since I bought scrap but they wil usually sell it for the by the pound price what they would pay you for it, bot not always depending on the size of the scrap. If I remember correctly, I think the last plate I bought was my fabrication table and I think I paid around 25 cents a pound and that was at a scrap metal place in Winslow. They had just got in a huge shipment of scrap plate from somewhere and I just happened to be at the right place at the right time.
Hernia heavy I'd say... Hefty base. I've been working with wood in the workshop. Hate the mess it makes compared to the metalwork. No air yet but it'll come with time.
It sure is hernia heavy! You really hit the nail on the head. I enjoy wood working but I don’t enjoy how everything in the shop gets covered with a fine layer of dust afterwards. Plus when you make a mistake and cut it too short you can add it back on much easier with metal 🤪🤪
Slick. Since there's so much weight acting on your behalf, why not put a bigger plate on the top and then you could mount 3 or 4 grinders on it. I've got a 6" setup for dressing tungsten, an 8" w/coarse and fine wheels, an 8" wet knife/tool wheel and buffer, and a 6" wire wheel and green wheel. Sounds like a lot but they all fit and more, it's all offset by a weighty base. The only thing I need to change is to put a 'lazy susan' under the top plate so I don't have to tip it up on the edge of the base and walk it in a circle (I don't have room to move it away from the wall). When space is the defining factor, you can't avoid bowing to its dictates.
Charlie I've actually been meaning to do something along those lines but I never gave it a thought to put it on a carousel. What a great idea! Thank you for sharing!
Great tip! I really like this idea! I actually just put new rotors on my daughter's car. One was bad and the other was good but I threw both away. Those would have worked mint! I'll keep my eye out. Thanks for sharing!
First !!!
Your skills are impeccable. You are one of the best I have ever seen and your presentation is excellent.
I appreciate that Mark, thank you! 🙏👍
Well done Sir. I like the way you explain how to do things without all the fancy expensive tools that we can’t afford. Tips along the way, no talking down to us. A pleasure to watch and I even learned some things along the way. Thank you.
Thanks Larry I appreciate your support and your great comment!
To my son thank u for the dedication!! Not long you'll be racing and I'll be watching!!!
Rest up!
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I'm glad you added the sand, I was going to say "heat the cast steel brake drum and weld a floor plate on it, that way you can fill the base with, concrete, gravel, or sand", the heavier the better. That's the beauty of the bolt on pedestal, you can fill it with weight. Nice build!
Thanks!
Excellent.
You can add any tool to the stand with no problem.
Thanks man! I can actually see me building a few more 😎
Awesome! It funny I made one that looked just like yours! I used a brake drum too! But I made it 40 years ago!!
So I guess its proven to last!:)
Yeah, a Mag Drill on a steel plate makes a way better drill press, Nice Job. I built mine about 3 years ago , I never thought of sand in the column, 😃😃😃
Great Video. William Orange County California
Thanks William! 👍
The one thing I have on the one I made you might want is a set of wheels on the back to help move it around. I used a set of old disk brakes off an 1980s GMC grain truck. Mine goes about 120lb . I've got a bad back so moving things is always on my mind. Love your stuff.
Thanks William. I appreciate your support and kind words. Thats a great idea about the wheels!!!!
My grinder is on the shelf with a piece of rubber floor mat under it to absorb the vibration until i mount it 1 day on a stand. Been there for years.... "1 day"
Good video. Thank you for your time and knowledge.
Its amazing how long that "1 day" can be...then younthink back and realize its been a few years lol. Thanks for watching and Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays
AWSOME job. Gotta remember the sand idea, smart thinking.
-Pidge
Thanks Pidge! It seems to work great!
Hay Brandon I have that same set up , but I have my vice on it instead of my grinder by the way I think your vice and mine might be twins, my grinder has always been mounted on the edge of bench , but l had to raise it about 6 inches to help with my back pain . If I was younger I would set everything up in a horizontally receiver hitch type. then l could use them in different areas . Nice build and stay safe TANK
Thanks man! Thats a great idea mounting a vise on it!
I ran a 'wanted' ad on Craigslist for some 18 wheeler break drums. People come out of the woodwork and are looking to give these away. Especially if you tell them the project you are going to use them for.
Those drums are steel AND cast iron. They are steel where the flat flange with the holes are and the 'drums are cast. When in doubt bolts are the way to go.
Nice build and thanks for the tips. It's always nice to see how someone else tackles a common problem.
Thanks Andrew! Great info,, thank you!! I appreciate your support.
5 weeks to go and I'll be able to lug heavy stuff around stuff again. You're making me jealous, 😂😂
Good job Brandon 🍺, thanks for posting.
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Thanks man! It will fly by faster than you know! Glad to hear your on the mend! 👍
Man that turned out great! I like how marked center for the post and then punched it so you didn’t lose center when you cleaned it up… That was slick! I love awesome tips and tricks like that, and as always no charge for that tip…😂
Hahahaha I love it brother. Thanks for your support man!
@@BrandonLund Yes sir, thanks for the learning experience.
You should weld some wheels on your base so you can tilt it back and move it really easy. That's what I did for my leg vise stand.
That’s an excellent idea! I love it!
Made mine last week 😂 but didn’t use sand !!! Cause I’m DEAF !!! Hee hee!! But good idea keep stable. 👍
I'm going to shamelessly copy the heck out of this when I build mine! Thanks Brandon!
Thats probably the best compliment anyone could give. Thanks brother!
My grinder is sitting mounted to a pole that's welded to 50s semi wheel great minds think alike lol great video Brandon
Thanks man! I wonder how many grinders this base will out last? 😎
@@BrandonLund probably alot
I'm finally about to make my bench grinder base. Ive had the parts ready for a year now and I just finally went out today and got some concrete. The base is my old truck drum brakes and a rotor welded together and a piece of tube with some angle iron welded to it so my grinder sits in it nice and tight.
Thats awesome! That will make a nice solid base!
Nice stand. I use old rims flipped so that I weld to the inside and then fill it up with concrete and smooth it out. And those old rims make for very heavy solid stands. But I do like the huge truck brake drum idea as well. If I ever come by one of those, I will snatch it up for such a future stand. Thumbs Up
Thanks man! Thats a great idea using a rim also! Thanks for sharing!
This is so rad! I need to make this base. My bench vice, grinder and soon tube notcher share the same spot on my bench. I don't use them all at the same time so swapping them out is no big deal. BUT reclaiming that bench space and making a spot for those three tools would be awesome!
Right on man! Thank you! 👍
I have a vise on a drum like that and put my grinder on a 15" car rim. Its nice to be able to move the vice where I need it, inside or out. I split a fuel line and put it around the car rim on the bottom to take care of the vibration. And the grinder is very portable. Side note you can not have too many vises.
Right on man on everything!
Thanks for the heads up on this video, this video project is exactly what I'm doing with my brake drum..bolting the base plate I think is brilliant..
This is making me excited to get my shop together
Thanks Rick and good luck man! It's a great feeling getting a shop organized and set up!
Brilliant idea with filling it with sand 👍🏼 you’re my kind of guy so you got yourself a new subscriber. 🙌🏻
Thanks man! I appreciate your support and the sub! 😁👍
Just shared your video to a post on den of tools on Facebook. Someone was looking for a way to limit vibration on their grinder. Once my shop is up and running this will be a project in the list for me. Thanks
Thanks Charlie, I appreciate you spreading the word!
Nicely designed Brandon and it turned out great too. 👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Great tip about dampening the sound and cutting down the vibration also. I still have to get with a scrap yard for the metal and a steel yard for cut offs. Thanks for sharing with us it’s appreciated.
Thanks man! The sand seems to help a lot!
Hey Brandon Greetings from India! Nice build, enjoyed it with early morning coffee.
That pedestal is proper Heavy Metal \m/
Good decision to use bolts, I was looking forward to seeing your mag drill press in action.
FYI from a noob to other noobs considering auto/agri/railway scrap parts: Over a couple of decades I've used a few tons of this stuff! They're quite different from mild steel, construction steel or rebar. These parts are High-er in carbon content with added chromium, molybdenum or other elements for specific hardness and wear applications. You need to handle them almost like tool steel.
They're definitely harder to drill, machine very differently on the lathe and mill, and they eat blunt tools for breakfast. Annular cutters or split point drill bits work best for drilling, very short/stiff ball-nose end mills work best for milling, stiff & sharp HSS bits (with a slight nose radius) are best for turning & facing. If you have access to one, use a "diamond lathe tool holder" also known as a tangential tool holder for any lathe operations. Carbide inserts tend to chip frequently while machining these parts due to variations in surface hardness, hidden weld repairs, or from interrupted cuts.
They never weld properly with 6011/6013 rods (guaranteed weld cracks & inclusions).
7018 and stainless 309l welding rods work better (yes, you can use stainless rods with non stainless parts but not the other way around). Tig/mig welding works well with silicon bronze filler material. Almost as good as brazing, so just braze if that's a possibility.
A Question for Viewers from various parts of the world: How much does a pound of decent scrap steel cost in your part of the world?
I pay the equivalent of 22c (30 Indian rupees) for a kilogram of steel (10c per pound). Considering how steel is traded internationally, prices should be fairly similar even halfway across the world! Although junk isn't really considered junk here, lots of people make their living from buying, repairing, repurposing or selling it for scrap, so your usual market laws apply. Depending on who I buy from and how quickly/badly I want it, sometimes even junk is really expensive (almost as much as new stuff).
This is great information and thank you for sharing! I pay anywhere from 10c to 25c depending on where I’m buying it.
Another Great Project,
Good Job Brandon!
Thanks again!
Now That's a Bench Grinder Stand ,WOW would love to have one of those ,nice Job Brandon .
Thanks! :)
Hey Brandon just made me one and used the sand .it makes a world of difference no vibration thanks for the idea
Thats great to hear buddy! Thanks for sharing and congratulations on your build! 👍
i used a brake drum for my bench vise. yost adi 6. went with 3/8 plate and 7/8 bolts every other hole for mounting. pipe was about 4' x .25'. u are right, hard to buy something better. will last a lifetime
Right on Walter! HEAVY DUTY! 👍
Brandon, when you need to weld 1/2 inch go to manual settings and dial in from there you don;t have to stay with synergic settings as the programs go to 1/4 inch on that setting.
Thanks man! If i remember correctly there is also a setting that will add an additional percentage (even if its maxed out but I can't remember the actual setting / function. I usually check out Milky Cerials channel when I get hung up. He has the Fronius setup mastered
@@BrandonLund Really like your grinder stand build. I may miss your next Friday video as i have to go on a moose hunt next week, usually we go for the first week in October , fly in moose hunt but we are getting to old for that so it is a more local hunt. Such it life in British Columbia Canada
My neighbour already got a 5x6 elk dressed out a 445 lbs so not bad for a back yard elk . keep those videos coming.
Thanks man I appreciate it! Good luck on your hunt!
Have had my grinders bolted to a bench for years. About time to free up the space. Have been thinking about it for a while. But I'll finish my morning coffees first. 😁😁
Need to build a slightly bigger version for 3 different grinders. Or just build 3. Hmmm...thinking about it now.
Thanks for the motivation
I put a oil purifier/desicant unit in line $75. Doubled the life of my consumable on my plasma cutter.
About the Mill Drill..that's what my wife said as well. End of that thought.🤣🤣🤣
Nice idea with the sand👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Grinding wheel dressers are fairly cheap and help keep your wheels in pretty good balance and prolong the life of the grinders. Worth investing in I think. About $20 for good ones
Thats a great idea Basil! Ive actually thought about adding a second grinder to this. I was thinking about bolting a wider plate to the current plate then mounting 2 grinders side by side. Just an idea 💡;)
@@BrandonLund That's basically what I'm mulling over now with my coffee
If you do decide to add 3 to 1 base, its gonna take 3 men and a boy if you ever have to move it but it will be super cool looking! 👍
@@BrandonLund Yes I'm kind of thinking that now. Probably going to do 3 separate ones. A 3 in one is going to loose all the space that I'm going to save.
@@BrandonLund That's the beauty of the second cup of coffee. Logic starts to kick in🤣🤣
That drill bit is the coolest thing 👌👌
@Ian Bendall it sure is! and they stay sharp a very long time
Looks really good Brandon! I like the sand in the tube idea, looks like I'm drilling a hole in my top plate. I also managed to break the cheap cast base to my grinder tightening it down. Took me a few hours, but I managed to make a new one out of steel. Guess I need to calm down a bit when tightening things.
Hahaha it happens Jeffrey. I've broken more stuff by tightening it down that I can remember.
I made something similar years back. The mounting plate was a bloody great 14" square of 20mm (Around 3/4") thick plate (Because it was the only chunky piece of steel I had to hand at the time). I used the extra surface area to build a full width angleable work rest. The post was a length of 3" thick walled pipe, and that was flanged at the end to bolt onto a 15" steel wheel, complete with a very bald tyre. The post bolted to the inside of the wheel (Where the hub and brake disc would have been) so I could fill the space in it with sand bags.
It worked really well. It was stable, and the work rest was great for putting neat 45' bevels on plates before welding them........... But a friend kept asking me how much I wanted for the setup, and eventually I needed the money more than I needed the grinder. :(
I keep meaning to make another, but my current little hobby workshop is a very cramped space, and I really haven't got the room for it (TBH, I haven't really got enough room for the tools and machines I've already got now !).
It sounds like it was super heavy duty! My shop is getting a little over crowded also so I feel your frustration :)
Brandon, excellent build! I've done several 'stands' before but I digress, I've never considered filling the tube portion with sand. I've been schooled... GREAT idea!
😁 thanks man i appreciate it 🙂
Out with drill tomorrow and fill my stand with sand and mount my welding vice to it great as usual Brandon stay safe have a good one 👨🏻🏭uk
Thanks Paul! Much appreciated! 👍
I've got the same set up except I have two vises mounted on each end. One, I bought from Harbor Freight and the other a blacksmith post vise. Enjoy your videos.
Great idea and thanks for your support!
Heck. I never considered that. I've been busting neurons here trying to figure out how to conserve what little room I have and I've been thinking about making a stand for my shop vise and I recently got a leg vise. I never considered having them share one stand. That'll be what I'm going to do. Thanks, brother.
Lol!!! That’s exactly how my bench grinder sits on my bench not bolted down… Time to make a pedestal!
LOL Tte thing dances all around...I'm so much happier now that its permanent! @mike brozowski
Once I bolted my grinder to my bench top I use it so much more especially wire wheels!
Right on!
Top Notch skills and the explanations you give are AWESOME Thank you, I’ll be building mine this weekend.
Thanks @WELD MKE I appreciate it!
I'm back again, BL! For those who want to write anything negative about a mag drill, I've got a question for you. How do you use your mill when you're faced with large drill work out in the field? Some of us "farmer types" have heavy equipment and trucks that require inverted cutting. In other words, the holes have to be drilled - through thick metal - sideways or upside down. Sure, a mill is great when it's possible to bring the work inside to your mill, but, needless to say, that's not always possible. For example, I recently needed to mount a pair of clevises to the rear of my work truck chassis. I ran a long power cord out to the rear of the truck, fixed our mag drill onto the work and simply drilled the 13/16" holes in a single stroke. Just like that, we were able to pass 3/4" O.D. steel pins - through the truly square holes - in the chassis! When one considers the time required, the wear and tear on tooling and the lack of square one typically experiences with step-drilling, a good mag drill becomes a dream tool! Once again, your Fronius "MIG Rig" is awesome! Where did you get the mag drill's base from? Keep on keepin' on, Brandon! 👍
Thanks buddy! 35 dollars on Marketplace! It started out as a burned out drill press. I got rid of the drill head, modified the column and welded a plate to it. I actually have a video on building it. It's in the same playlist as this video
@@BrandonLund Thanks for the info, BL! As I'm such a hillbilly, I haven't watched many videos, including yours, I'm sorry to say ... and, speaking of being backward, what is "Marketplace"? (seriously) 🤠
Oh dude, it's a goldmine. Facebook Marketplace. I'm slightly addicted. It's an online buying selling site. Anything you can imagine (that's legal) of coarse.
Absolutely love this, I have 2 of those semi drum brake rotors, and been wanting to do this as well. But have to wait after multiple surgeries from truck accidents. But brother you inspire me to get this done as soon as I'm healed, thank you and merry Christmas
Right on man! I wish you a speedy recovery and a Merry Christmas!
@@BrandonLund thank you brother, God Bless you and your family 😎
I enjoyed your way of doing the task and the way you explained it.
My personal preference would be to cut the round with the plasma and insert the tube in the rectangular flange.
That would work also :)
Awesome video definitely a good solid build
As I'm watching this, I like what you have done. I did wonder why not make it with a bigger top plate so you could mount something else on the opposite side? Nice work.
Thanks Scott! Your right about the top. I soon realized that as soon as I started using it. I actually plan to remove the grinder and bolt a wider plate to the existing place so I can fit 2 or 3 grinders in a row to save sapce. If my shop was a little bigger I would probably have it in an open space rather than against the wall so I could have the grinders front to back as you suggested. Thats probably the more functional way of having them.
Brandon, do you have a video of making a weld turner for pipe or rotating this brake drum as you weld the pipe around ?
LOL Have you been spying my workbench in the last couple videos @MARK SAROVICH very soon
What blade do you use on the cut off saw, have to get myself one, awesome build, great job. 👍👍👍
I get them through evolution tools. You can find them in the links below and you’ll save yourself some $$$
Brandon's channel: we put grinders onto pedestals, but we knock phone scammers off of them
🤣🤣🤣 it never gets old buddy! I love messing with them! 👍
your videos make my day
Thanks Max!
Cool thing is I just found a big truck wheel that I'll use for a base and about 50 yards away, there's a 5-6 foot piece of rectangular tube with a 1/4" thick base plate. Lemme see what I can do with my handy dandy flux cored welder 👍
SCORE!!!!! I love it when things work out like this!
@@BrandonLundwhat's better than free material, l some instruction and a heap of inspiration? Not much! Stoked I found your youtube channel bro 👍
@MakinStuff23 thanks man I appreciate you supporting the channel!
Awesome build
Thanks!
I like your idea of making a bigger plate so you can mount 2 grinders. I have my Grinders mounted back-to-back on one plate; smooth and rough stone on one side and wire wheel and buffing wheel on the other. It's not too hard for me to waltz it around when I need to change but mine doesn't weigh over 150 pounds. :)
Thanks man. I still haven't got around to it. Probably in an upcoming episode
Yeah! Nice base! Ok you got me, I subscribed.
EDIT: Hey! It's almost FRIDAY!
Can't wait!
Thanks man I appreciate the support!
You have a great shop . . . nice build . . . I love the links to the tool list . . . I need more money . . .
Thanks man! The shop is never big enough and neither is my wallet! I'm with ya! 👍
i am enjoying your builds. They are a lot like what I do around the shop. It is fun once in awhile to step back from the more complicated fabrication and machining to do a quick job that is such a big help around the shop. I just found your channel and am subscribing. Well at least until I see one of those expensive computer plasma tables show up--then I am out of here! Take care. Doug
Thanks Doug. I appreciate your support. You made me laugh with the plasma table comment...that seems to be the theme lately. I totally understand what your saying. I could never justify a plasma table anyways. My shop is too small and not enough demand (even if it was free) 😁
Super grinder stand !
Right on
I agree so much, always i use paper as a template or a thin mdf
Great idea with mdf!
Good job 👍
Thanks 👍
Always at another level.good video
Thanks man! I truly appreciate this comment! ❤ 😁 👊
@@BrandonLund your welcome.hey sorry for asking questions but i can't find an answer on Google or UA-cam .was trying to repair my pressure washer pump made a hole on pump made of aluminum and figured ill plug it up with tig .seeing your videos everything looks easy😂 . i was so wrong my tig level is beginner my gas filter keeps turning white and blue from the aluminum material from pressure washer pump material.keep trying to do what i seen on your videos and i keep failing.puzzled
It sounds like contamination. In which case you need to ensure the part is clean and v out. It could also be a magnesium alloy. Grab some white vinegar and put some on the metal casting. If its an aluminum alloy it will do nothing. If its a magnesium alloy it will fizz. 4043 would probably be the best filler if you determine its an aluminum alloy.
@@BrandonLund thanks again i out vinegar it didn't't have any reaction i put a piece overnight to see if anything changes.again thank you
Good job Brandon, looks great and also sounds quieter than it would have done without the sand! That said, for thick steel I personally prefer a stick welder.
I agree 100% stick is my favorite process too but this was the first time maxing this machine (well almost, I could have pushed it a bit further with advanced settings) but I wanted to see how it did.
@@BrandonLund It's a nice machine and did the job well, so fair enough.
Hi Brandon, verry nice and i love your tools 👌👌
Thanks Eric! Its getting there. I have been meaning to do these projects for a while. It feels good to get them done :)
Killer video as usual.....could you do a tape measure tips and tricks video?
Thanks man and great idea! 👍
what is that table that moves up and down in this video? Its the one you built the stand on. I want to build a sit stand welding table and that looked like you had already done that.
@David Boudreau It's a pneumatic lift table. Here is the video of me setting it up ua-cam.com/video/hgtN1wTfQno/v-deo.html and here is the ink to the lift amzn.to/30cTaiu
Awesome the way it was just scrap pieces.
Thanks man. Its the greatest feeling using scrap metal to make something useful
I like that drill and press set up brandon where did you get it I'm a newbie here
I made them :) If you click my playlist that says Ultimate Tool Builds you will find those and more!
Nice stacking dims to get tube length.
Right on :)
Good job, well done
Thanks Tony! 👍
Hi Brandon, why you dont use a paper aas a template to copy all the holes, paper is lighter than steel
Great tip! Paper is in short supply in my shop. I should probably pick some up..
Brilliant video thank u 😍👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Brent!
I would have made the grinder base I little bigger for a water cup.
I might actually bolt a larger plate to the existing plate and mount 2 grinders
You could slice open a piece of rubber hose for the bottom of the brake drum so that you don't get a rusty circle on the floor, or put an old mud flap under it.
Great tip!!!! Thank you!!!! I WILL be doing this.
I need to make something to put a grinder on so this is great. Also, where did you get that type of metal marker? I’m over soap stone 😂
amzn.to/3O57eAq You wont be disappointed if you build the stand. I wouldn't change anything other than maybe adding a wider top for 2 or 3 grinders. The link is the metal marker I use
@@BrandonLund thank you very much. I may make a video some day and if so I’ll show the stand when I build it. Gonna start it soon as I’m done polishing my dad’s very old axe. Thanks again for the link
Glad to help man and I'd love to see your design when your done 👍
How do you like that grinder? It's HF right? Does it big down easy or get really hot fast? I have a basic 6" from HF and it will big down super easy if you press into it at all. Also gets really hot fast. It's still usable but I want something with more power.
@Christopher Salisbury I love it. It's the 8" model from HF. It doesn't really bog down for what I use it for and I've had it for a while and it never gets hot.
@@BrandonLund nice!
Where do you buy the glass grit media?
The cheapest place I've found is at my local equipment rental place.
It’s a fifth wheel axle off probably the 2nd rear wheel And yes they are cast iron the thing about cast iron is yo u can weld it with 6011 Smaw rod welding
Nice build. Just a thought, try moving the grinding wheels into different positions (clock-wise, one side at a time) to see if maybe you can get the heavy part of the wheel(s) to self balance. You may also want to try, turning one grinding wheel say clock wise, and the other one counter clock wise to find a balance that works. I would make a single mark (line / dot) on each wheel(s) to aid in letting you know just how much or little you have moved the wheel. I'm not gonna say this will solve your out of balance problem, (it just may) but it should improve it from where your grinding machine is presently dealing with. You can hear it in the video. good luck. Cost is only maybe 15 minutes of your time.
GREAT SUGGESTION! I hadn't thought of this but it makes perfect sense and will likely make the problem better. Thank you for your suggestion!
Brandon I’m having a hard time finding the links to the item that you mentioned in your video can someone out there help me 2 locate the links
@John Wilson, what link are you looking for?
A lot easier is to use a steel car wheel.
Use 2 lengths of angle, one on either side of the tube, welded to the wheel & tube.
Fill with concrete if necessary.
Nah, I wasn't going for easy. I had this stuff and I wanted something heavy that dampened vibration. This does all of that.
Instead of sand blasting try using Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer and Paint. Saves time and it bonds well to rusty metal.
I love that stuff!
What is your white chalk marker called
Brandon I want to buy one
They are awesome! Here is the link amzn.to/3lyHDjI
Brandon Lund I bought one on eBay thanks mate
Your going to love it! 😍
What marking pen are you using?
This one :) amzn.to/3lyHDjI
Where the heck are my boots.....😂
Hahahaha sorry man its come and gone. Dont worry though. There will be plenty more giveaways. :)
why not use flux core?
@Troy Rhoads no particular reason. I actually use flux core a lot on the channel and I promote it quite frequently because I feel like folks just starting out get the false impression that MIG is somehow better than self shielded. They each have their application but one is not better than the other in my opinion. I like to switch things up just to keep myself sharp. As you mentioned, flux core would have been ideal on this project.
Pick up a wheel dresser it will take away some of the vibration. Be sure to wear a hood when dressing the 2heels though. A pair of saftey glasses dont quite do the job.
Great advise. I actually have dressed them a few times and it helped a lot but its still pretty bad. I was concerned when I bought the grinder thinking the shafts were bent. I checked for runout and they were straight. I need to break down and buy some quality discs.
Why you using a respirator with only dust filters when you welding? This is useless because gas molecules are smaller than dust particle.
I'm not. This mask is the industry standard for welding if your not using a PAPR. From 3M's website "The 3M 2097 P100 Filters fit on the 3M 6000 and 3M 7500 Series Half Masks, as well as the 3M 6000 Full Face Respirators. HEPA filtration is rated to remove 99.9% of particles .3 microns and larger. This includes most welding fumes (burnt metal), toxic dusts, like asbestos and lead". Like I said, its what welders use if your not using PAPR.
Sorry I typed the below message before watching the video bear with me I'm old and senile.
When you say scrap yard are you saying metal recycler? Like up my way we have one named AIM, Amercian Industrial Metal. I have wondered if they would sell me some scrap steel. How do you come up with a fair price for what you buy? Do you pay like half the cost of new or do they see it to you buy the pound in some fashion? Great site good job, JeffinMaine.
Yes when I say "scrap yard" I'm refering to both places. Metal recyclers and metal suppliers. BOTH places will generally sell thier scraps for "by the pound" prices. It's been a while since I bought scrap but they wil usually sell it for the by the pound price what they would pay you for it, bot not always depending on the size of the scrap. If I remember correctly, I think the last plate I bought was my fabrication table and I think I paid around 25 cents a pound and that was at a scrap metal place in Winslow. They had just got in a huge shipment of scrap plate from somewhere and I just happened to be at the right place at the right time.
wow cool , my computer has been down, Thanks for the reply though.@@BrandonLund
If you could only dig up a smaller drum I guess you could flip it over and fill it up with concrete. And add scrap metal to the cement.
Great tip!
Hernia heavy I'd say... Hefty base. I've been working with wood in the workshop. Hate the mess it makes compared to the metalwork. No air yet but it'll come with time.
It sure is hernia heavy! You really hit the nail on the head. I enjoy wood working but I don’t enjoy how everything in the shop gets covered with a fine layer of dust afterwards. Plus when you make a mistake and cut it too short you can add it back on much easier with metal 🤪🤪
@@BrandonLund hahahaha very true. Less room for error.
What are the headphones called?
They are Amp Bluetooth. I have a link to the exact ones in the description. I absolutely love them!
Thx buddy.
Let’s do this brother...
Right on man!
Slick. Since there's so much weight acting on your behalf, why not put a bigger plate on the top and then you could mount 3 or 4 grinders on it.
I've got a 6" setup for dressing tungsten, an 8" w/coarse and fine wheels, an 8" wet knife/tool wheel and buffer, and a 6" wire wheel and green wheel. Sounds like a lot but they all fit and more, it's all offset by a weighty base.
The only thing I need to change is to put a 'lazy susan' under the top plate so I don't have to tip it up on the edge of the base and walk it in a circle (I don't have room to move it away from the wall). When space is the defining factor, you can't avoid bowing to its dictates.
An old sealed wheel bearing that still turns works good for making turntables if you wanted to try that.
Charlie I've actually been meaning to do something along those lines but I never gave it a thought to put it on a carousel. What a great idea! Thank you for sharing!
Great tip! I really like this idea! I actually just put new rotors on my daughter's car. One was bad and the other was good but I threw both away. Those would have worked mint! I'll keep my eye out. Thanks for sharing!
Your table moves up and down?!
Yes, is pheumatic.
Nice
Thanks
next: add a coolant reservoir.
Great idea! Thank you!
Its cast iron i work on semis
Yes sir :)
Get a wheel dresser, will take the vibration out.
I did a few times and it helped but there is still some there.