Ayrton Bondzanga I think this was scripted. The new car is better in every single catagory except weight. It makes up for that in power and torque, which the original lacks.
+sharpemang Every single category except weight... which is the most important category for cars in this performance tier. The lighter AE86 can keep its speed up in the corners better and is generally more nimble. Not to mention that you can buy a used USDM AE88 (basically an AE86 with some chassis tweaks) for around $10,000, which is about half the cost of the GT86. An authentic RHD JDM car will be a bit more expensive due to the "Takumi Tax". You could easily build an AE86 that can crush a GT86 for the same cost as the newer car.
de TRUENO yes and what I have seen they have very good traction.... Im looking to get my 86 back from long Island soon probably in about a month... Hope to start tuning my car soon....:)
it would be a must for a gen 2 or a cousin to the GT86 that is better (then we can sort of have what the WRX/STi has as the AE86 and GC8 are put in the same roles)
Hahaha the guy at 6:05 waves to the drift king, that’s what I like about this. They all seem to be friendly with one another, even with the fact they’re racing.
would love to see the same race if the drift king were in a GT86. Reason being, the ae86's were clearly more of a handful to drive. Keep an eye on the steering wheel work between the 2 cars. The ae86's are more prone to oversteer and need more steering input, and so the drift king got past in part because the tires wore faster and the car becomes unsettled easier than the GT86. If he were in a GT86, I bet he would not get past.
I agree completely. It doesnt help that Tsuchiya made 2 minor shifting errors after lap 2. Also, I think he was used to this track, whereas the other drivers weren't. But they were getting more used to it with each lap. All the other drivers best lap times came in much later laps than Tsuchiyas.
Tsuchiya's 86 was tuned for the touge after all. Look at how oversteer-happy it was. If it was tuned for track correctly, say a bit stability and understeer, it could have preserved its tires longer and would have remained at least on the podium.
You have to remember too that Tsuchiya's AE86 was tuned and modded to be driven on a touge pass and not on the track which most of these GT86s were tuned to drive on track and on road.
exactly. on all the previous runs his AE86 did they (DK and his AE86) were fantastic. I really reckon he should've tuned for a bit understeer/stability and he wouldn't be fighting for the car's traction.
Not a big fan of NASCAR either but there is still a lot of skills involved. These cars have no Electronics aids or even no injection. So all the cars have the same shape with a carburettor V8 with 800hp. With those fast speeds you need to be tactic with slip stream etc. But anyway still boring yes :P
since nascars are all rated the same it kills the purpose of the different brands involved and even the purpose of the teams in a way...they're just buying good drivers so whats the point in watching..has almost nothing to do with the cars themselves..sadly since there is a lot of money involved it takes away drivers who could probably be better track drivers
RCPro Driver as much as I don't like NASCAR you need some skill because one little fuck up could end up killing and wiping out half the field of competitors. No fancy computers either to save your ass when you fuck up.
Ken Kozawa I mean Mercedes has been dominant the last couple years in F1 because of their amazing silver arrows. I really didn't see the point in watching since Mercedes-Benz always won and had the best cars. While we had had other great drivers stuck with worse power units who could give Lewis a run for his money if they had a better car. It's sort of the same situation in F1, where's the point of the race aspect of one teams car is always going to perform drastically better than the others? Driving skill should take precedence not fancy computers.
Lol, the old AE86s being a good one/third lighter than the GT86s will always out-brake them into the corner. I love 'em both, but you just can't beat having a superlight sportscar... less is literally more!
Love the intro! This is a brilliant video, I personally think the AE86 looks better but the GT86 is a damn good looking car too! Love these Japanese racing videos
Shi Nichi it all matters on the driver and the type of road, if it's a straight then the old Corolla would get smoked, but in the corners it all depends on the driver
The old 86 looks like better fun to drive. Toyota should ditch the GT coupe design and make a new "neo-retro" 86 that looks like the original with a screaming in-line 4
ae86s feels way more tail happy than the gt86. I feel even the driver isn't provoking the car, the car gets some angle every corner. Where as the gt86 is very planted, less aggressiv on entry
I wish they made an electric car that’s an exact recreation of the ae86 with the same shapes bodywork’s and chassis just so they don’t go obsolete soon and also put it into mass production
Well it's a movie for starters and that's where it ends being the last we've seen from the anime Unless you consider MF Ghost to be a sequel And it's a GT86 not an FR-S
Why do I get the sneaking suspicion that the 4AGE engine used in these AE86s were rev limited to 8000 RPM to ensure the newer 86s don't get embarrassed by the higher revving older brother? To be fair, what is lacking in down force (GT Wing) and independent rear suspension in the older AE86 models, the race organizers should have granted concession to the AE86s by allowing for higher engine RPM to cover lost ground in the straighter sections on the race track. That would have truely lived up to the Initial D Anime series when Takumi raced cars with such modern day setups.
the new 86s are heavier. the boxer from subaru needed a turbo or a charger to get more performance. the old 86s are at their limit already but since they have less aero and downforce with great drivers they became at par with the new ones.
This is an excerpt from one of the editions, a Japanese video magazine about automobiles. And leading (Japanese race car drivers) are tested on the loop track of the various cars, including sports tuned. Called video magazine Best Motoring and Hot Version ua-cam.com/channels/rmsruqPgCIs4PImiZs0t9w.html
Smiler Entertainment No it's a movie that resumes the series, it's called Initial D Legend and there are three of them, but in my opinion it's better to watch only the series (Initial D Stages) because the movies lost most of the things that made the series good, especially the music.
poor keiichi. i feel like his car was just too loose to be competitive. he probably just enjoys it too much like that to change it. he is the drift king after all
I loved the close racing and how each driver respected and gave space to the other driver. I don't know what I would choose
Ayrton Bondzanga I think this was scripted. The new car is better in every single catagory except weight. It makes up for that in power and torque, which the original lacks.
sharpemang these arent stock dude.
Ayrton Bondzanga. Lol drift king that one cost 5000000 yen to tuning, now he is still upgrade his car
Ayrton Bondzanga. From 4AG to 7 A inside almost everything is mod
+sharpemang
Every single category except weight... which is the most important category for cars in this performance tier. The lighter AE86 can keep its speed up in the corners better and is generally more nimble.
Not to mention that you can buy a used USDM AE88 (basically an AE86 with some chassis tweaks) for around $10,000, which is about half the cost of the GT86. An authentic RHD JDM car will be a bit more expensive due to the "Takumi Tax". You could easily build an AE86 that can crush a GT86 for the same cost as the newer car.
that was sick! The fact that the 86 can keep basically the same pace as these new cars is awesome!
This is true, but to go to the new 86 they need very serious and expensive tuning, because the GT86 chassis is very good
de TRUENO yes and what I have seen they have very good traction.... Im looking to get my 86 back from long Island soon probably in about a month... Hope to start tuning my car soon....:)
+ScubaSteveAE86 Alemar I didn't like the feel of the gt86 (I drove the brz) stock.
I mean they are modified. If it was stock, the AE86 wouldn't be able to keep up with the GT86.
Especially on the straight. The ae86 does a quarter mile in like 20 seconds or some shit.
Keichii straight overpowering the rear axle on every corner, gotta love it
that's some serious 4 wheel drift for sure
Gotta love both models.
AE86 for the nostalgia, GT86 for the beauty
Nostalgia, 'meh... beauty, pfft... gotta love both of them for pure drivability xD
@@Nemoticon beauty pfft? gtfoh with your bs
@@giampieroilbello5373 Make me, lol
@@Catalina._ Aww, someone get triggered? xD
So much 86... so much eurobeat... so much kansei dorifto... I CANT RESIST! I NEED TO JUMP EVERYWHERE!!!
That is heart warming... An old AE86 keeping up with the new, as majestic GT86
the ae86 is using powerslides and the gt86 is using grip, is not a battle of generations its a battle of styles........I Love it
at some points I noticed the GT drivers started using gutter technique while going in the corners, forcing the AEs to go wide and fall behind
Francisking2884 the AE86 loses traction, not really the driver, if you've driven an AE86 you would know that Oversteer is almost near inevitable
@@Mr.timecapsules
It is the drift machine.
@@Mr.timecapsules Be able to grip all a lap in an ae86 mean master it yes
The GT86 is certainly a worthy successor to the AE86. The torch has been passed.
it would be a must for a gen 2 or a cousin to the GT86 that is better (then we can sort of have what the WRX/STi has as the AE86 and GC8 are put in the same roles)
DarkHorizons low hp and light, Definitely worthy, Toyota knows what they're doing
@@Mr.timecapsules unlike a bunch if people in a group i knew they think the gt86 was shit.
@@kimchunglee2528 the only downside I see to it is because of the safety features it’s still slightly heavier than the ae86
Hahaha the guy at 6:05 waves to the drift king, that’s what I like about this. They all seem to be friendly with one another, even with the fact they’re racing.
Kei
The dude gets to pass the freakin' *Drift King.* He gets my respect for being so friendly on the track.
Thats what u called respect and having fun or enjoy the race
Thats the best part of it
Tsuchiya drift at 140 Km, Holy shit
KeII ホントこれ。多分これ最後のコーナーのことだと思うけど、メーター140kmのまま流しっぱなしで抜けて縁石ギリのキツキツラインで走り抜くのマジですごいと思うよ。タイヤの消耗もすごいだろうけど
English pls
KeII When it's made English.
The street.
It's so.
Ma... Masaka!
nani!!!! KANSEI DORIFTO ????!!!!
Yeah thats racing not that boring F1
With Style F1 get booring. Since 2000....
would love to see the same race if the drift king were in a GT86. Reason being, the ae86's were clearly more of a handful to drive. Keep an eye on the steering wheel work between the 2 cars. The ae86's are more prone to oversteer and need more steering input, and so the drift king got past in part because the tires wore faster and the car becomes unsettled easier than the GT86. If he were in a GT86, I bet he would not get past.
I agree completely. It doesnt help that Tsuchiya made 2 minor shifting errors after lap 2. Also, I think he was used to this track, whereas the other drivers weren't. But they were getting more used to it with each lap. All the other drivers best lap times came in much later laps than Tsuchiyas.
Tsuchiya's 86 was tuned for the touge after all. Look at how oversteer-happy it was. If it was tuned for track correctly, say a bit stability and understeer, it could have preserved its tires longer and would have remained at least on the podium.
irs and dual wishbone suspension helps out allot.
You have to remember too that Tsuchiya's AE86 was tuned and modded to be driven on a touge pass and not on the track which most of these GT86s were tuned to drive on track and on road.
exactly. on all the previous runs his AE86 did they (DK and his AE86) were fantastic. I really reckon he should've tuned for a bit understeer/stability and he wouldn't be fighting for the car's traction.
And people here think Nascar is great racing. These guys have 10 times as much skill and the racing is far more enjoyable to watch.
RCPro Driver everyone knows nascar is no skill lol they just watch it for the crashes
Not a big fan of NASCAR either but there is still a lot of skills involved. These cars have no Electronics aids or even no injection. So all the cars have the same shape with a carburettor V8 with 800hp. With those fast speeds you need to be tactic with slip stream etc. But anyway still boring yes :P
since nascars are all rated the same it kills the purpose of the different brands involved and even the purpose of the teams in a way...they're just buying good drivers so whats the point in watching..has almost nothing to do with the cars themselves..sadly since there is a lot of money involved it takes away drivers who could probably be better track drivers
RCPro Driver as much as I don't like NASCAR you need some skill because one little fuck up could end up killing and wiping out half the field of competitors. No fancy computers either to save your ass when you fuck up.
Ken Kozawa I mean Mercedes has been dominant the last couple years in F1 because of their amazing silver arrows. I really didn't see the point in watching since Mercedes-Benz always won and had the best cars. While we had had other great drivers stuck with worse power units who could give Lewis a run for his money if they had a better car. It's sort of the same situation in F1, where's the point of the race aspect of one teams car is always going to perform drastically better than the others? Driving skill should take precedence not fancy computers.
6:57 feels like watching Takumi vs Wataru race😂😂
Jordi ACR LOL 😂😂😂
Jordi ACR For Reall broo
TE 37 yeah the Koizomi Syoukai AE86 is the best ae86 but Keiichis AE86 is still the best
AE may be old but it is still strong!
I saw Tsuchiya's 86 at Tokyo auto salon. it is so clean and has a full aluminum flat bottom on it.
7:34 McQueen is fading! Fading fast!!
10/10 EUROBEAT INTENSIFIES!!!!!!
haha lel hello
Mr de Trueno, the soundtrack you put on this video is absolutely spot on, I loved it
thanks! but the music is too loud, I think))
de TRUENO What's the name of the eurobeat songs you used here? Because they really pumped me up watching this video!
enjoy))
01:00 MAD MAX - STAY WITH ME
04:40 BON - POWER FIGHTER
be attentive
in the description of the names are written)
Epic! 3:50 Wow, Shingo bought an GT86 0:
ste ,men :'v
shingo bought
+2 shingo points :v
Shingo dislikes FR cars
I think it was Shinji Inui.
Lol, the old AE86s being a good one/third lighter than the GT86s will always out-brake them into the corner. I love 'em both, but you just can't beat having a superlight sportscar... less is literally more!
Damn the drift king was out of there in the beginning 😎
4.34 waving to the guy you put massive pressure on... epic!! XDDD this is why i love japanese racing!
3:51 that tap. 5:09 look how close they are. Unbelievable skill.
it's not about the car, it's about how you drive it
Much respect to the OG DK and the AE86 to keep strides with these new machines.. Love it!!
Love the intro! This is a brilliant video, I personally think the AE86 looks better but the GT86 is a damn good looking car too! Love these Japanese racing videos
No silly drifting or theatrics, this is real racing!
Pic is fine
What's wrong with it?
iHeart GT86 {KatyCat} but its a man who you are talking to
one of my favorite tracks all time Tsubuka
Love how much fun they have while Racing. Great respect
Excellent video and even better driving!!!! Watching this in Guyana, South America
This is Sunday Cup in Gran Tourismo LOL
Jon Irenicus I think this would be a good race I would use the AE86.
5:00 that close racing between Keiichi and the GT86
エキゾーストという素晴らしいBGMがありながらその上から別の曲を被せるとは
2:29 you can just hear the iconic 4a ge engine 😬 sounds so goood!
Hey that's my dad's friend
Wow Takumi did you appeared there?
You are so unoriginal I hate accounts like you
I used to believed that if you have a faster engine then you will win wherever you will go until i watched the Initial D series.
Shi Nichi yah that's the difference between initial d and wan fan midnight
Shi Nichi imagine Takumi against a Veyron ? lol . That would be one quick touge run after the fat beetle understeers off the road
Shi Nichi it all matters on the driver and the type of road, if it's a straight then the old Corolla would get smoked, but in the corners it all depends on the driver
SuperMechguy the veyron would probably crash in the first hairpin if the drive wanted to not give the 86 the lead
This litteraly made night. awesome
This is beautiful to watch omg ♡ i love how much passion and fun.these guys have :)
what an amazing battle! I love my zn6 and Ive always loved the ae86
That intro was amazing, someone needs to make the whole animation!!!
"waving hand" remember me? hahahahah
King Belial a "Days of Thunder" reference maybe?
This is awesome, some of the best racing I've seen in years!
The Ae86's put up a good fight against the GT86's. God i love this video ❤
TSUKUBA CIRCUIT! I played Gran turismo 4 a lot! So i know the race track very well ! :D
I was expecting a head to head 1v1. This was so much better
The old 86 looks like better fun to drive. Toyota should ditch the GT coupe design and make a new "neo-retro" 86 that looks like the original with a screaming in-line 4
💯💯💯💯💯
The best man wish I could be there
Takumi is beating his past self again
that was an Awesome race...both NASCAR and this kind of racing take lots of skill...don't knock any of them...its all good...👍
ae86s feels way more tail happy than the gt86. I feel even the driver isn't provoking the car, the car gets some angle every corner. Where as the gt86 is very planted, less aggressiv on entry
Probably one of my favorite Eurobeat videos
新旧対決ってやっぱいいなー
This isn't what you wanted to find when you searched "ae86 vs gt86"
but it's what you needed to find
the new 86s just have the grip advantage here but still a great race
epic battle 👏😀👏😀
この新しい方の86に乗ってる人の声優が、アニメ版の拓海の声優なんだよね
胸熱
50% of me enjoying this
50% of me feel like 🤢🤮 while recording inside the car.
i feel like i'd watch a lot more circuit racing videos if all of them had eurobeat playing
Car's Age doesn't matter when the driver is skillful
CRAZY OTAKU XD its a tune car that has over 400hp maybe
新舊對決 真的太過癮了 尤其是土烏的好技術🤗
feels like watching WTCC races, beats watching F1 and narcar anytime
That's crazy, dk had such a big lead, looked like 5 seconds at least and the gtv just made it look easy overtaking him
I wonder how this battle would turn out of the ae86s had GT wings like the new 86.
Best driving and best eurobeat is here, my body ir ready
I wish they made an electric car that’s an exact recreation of the ae86 with the same shapes bodywork’s and chassis just so they don’t go obsolete soon and also put it into mass production
Last word of takumi to bunta:Itekuru
when you spot a subaru brz and an 85 among these...
Not all Levins are 85s
Mr. Taniguchi must've had fun sitting in the back of the pack.
I'm more interested in the video of takumi racing against the frs...
Yomar Chacon I know they kinda teased at the Battle in the Initial D credits but yeah I'd love to see that too
Brea Canyon Drifter no new season? :(
Well it's a movie for starters and that's where it ends being the last we've seen from the anime
Unless you consider MF Ghost to be a sequel
And it's a GT86 not an FR-S
AE86 Levin & Trueno > GT86 & BRZ Any day.
Vun Lee for me it's a tie
the gt86's are having a hard time passing the ae86's. LONG LIVE TOYOTA AE86!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
drift king and his trueno is like magic
Toyota AE86 Team VS Toyota GT86 Team
Toyota needs to make a GT86 GTV
INITIAL D BATTLE STAGE 3 fan made version >
ua-cam.com/video/yyemLLYUYeg/v-deo.html
fucking copyright infringement
Thanks for uploading.
de TRUENO a
de TRUENO Seems like Korean user... no idea about copyrights :(
Wow the eurobeat made it way much more exciting to watch! What are the names of the songs?
NakariShiro check the description
Why do I get the sneaking suspicion that the 4AGE engine used in these AE86s were rev limited to 8000 RPM to ensure the newer 86s don't get embarrassed by the higher revving older brother? To be fair, what is lacking in down force (GT Wing) and independent rear suspension in the older AE86 models, the race organizers should have granted concession to the AE86s by allowing for higher engine RPM to cover lost ground in the straighter sections on the race track. That would have truely lived up to the Initial D Anime series when Takumi raced cars with such modern day setups.
LOL. To put it simple the 4AGE that revs at 10,000 rpm are rebuilt. These are the normal 4AGE from factory.
the new 86s are heavier. the boxer from subaru needed a turbo or a charger to get more performance. the old 86s are at their limit already but since they have less aero and downforce with great drivers they became at par with the new ones.
Sensei 👏
Look at that! Low power, respectable and fun racing!
ホットバージョンの時の音楽はいらない
This race is pretty nice 👍
omg these guys just go all out !
The battle of the student (GT86) and the master (AE86)...
This is better than modern f1 for sure
What racing type is this? Formula D? Or is this different? I would love to watch more of these
This is an excerpt from one of the editions, a Japanese video magazine about automobiles. And leading (Japanese race car drivers) are tested on the loop track of the various cars, including sports tuned.
Called video magazine Best Motoring and Hot Version ua-cam.com/channels/rmsruqPgCIs4PImiZs0t9w.html
0:00 what episode?
love the song
Woah hibino is talented at grip driving.
Looks like the drift king killed his tyers before the gt86 rasty. It's not the gt86 that beat him. It was his tyer strategy.
BIG QUESTION: who was that on the orange GT86 in legend?
Wait what!? What season is that???? From the beginning.
GT86s against Tsuchiya and his AE86? Nah, he's the DK.
Everyone gangsta until the AE86 starts drifting
Takumiiiiiiï!
For those who is looking for the AE86 Club Best MOTORing 2013 race video:
ua-cam.com/video/0Sq5B9AFhBA/v-deo.html
Was the intro actually in the original Initial D show?
Smiler Entertainment No it's a movie that resumes the series, it's called Initial D Legend and there are three of them, but in my opinion it's better to watch only the series (Initial D Stages) because the movies lost most of the things that made the series good, especially the music.
I told my friends that i would quit the drift world If tsuchiya loses a Race...NOW I AM LEAVING EVEN BEFORE LEARNING TO DRIFT!!
poor keiichi. i feel like his car was just too loose to be competitive. he probably just enjoys it too much like that to change it. he is the drift king after all
the ae86 still can hold a candle as a formidable opponent on a race track. The car is simply one variable in determining the outcome of a race.