Differences: Peach fades away quicker in the Japanese version. Mario only says “Ha ha” jumping out of the pipe in the North American version. Bowser’s text is quicker in the North American version. In the final fight, Mario says “Here we go!” When throwing him in Japanese version, and the infamous “So long gay Bowser!” In the North American version.
wohdinhel Huh? I thought the Japanese version had no audio for Peach at all. This would probably be easier to catch if this video had a stereo option...
No, TAS starts counting at the very first frame even if there's no input, and it finishes on the last input, which is the jump you do to get the star (not when bowser finishes talking). And your statement would be wrong anyway too since there's already inputs before the intro. ;)
In japanese version there are some stars shorter (Blast to the stone pillar, stand on the four pillars), short enough to probably save what loading would waste (around 6-7 secs at max)
So basically the reasoning of speedrunners playing the japanese version because it's faster is not true (at least for 0-star) and the difference between the two is, at most, about 30 frames.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Lag difference isn't that much. On this run, it's just 0"23 difference (meaning that japanese and american would have tied if it wasnt because of lag). In a 120 star TAS, lag difference wouldn't be more than 7 secs, and japanese version has some stars faster than American version, like Stand tall in the 4 pillars, or Blast To The Stone Pillar, so I'm still not sure which one would be faster.
Thanks for pointing that out. Why couldn't the Japanese version always use the bigger text box? Oh well, at least we watched an excellent TAS comparison.
@@lordroy88 hey btw thanks for replying to my 6 year old comment, this means almost more then my life has been taken up by video games instead of getting with a lady, ill be sure to go tell my true love it seems more like ive married princess peach if not a real life like lady thats not based on 60 fps with 144p quality. :P
His point is, in TAS it should be about how quickly the player plays, not how long a cutscene is. Ideally, cutscene times would be standardized so one time vs. another isn't faster than the other simply because of what version of the game they played.
Isn't TAS about when input control starts and ends? Like the US intro took longer but the input stage didn't begin until after the Japanese version. And I would believe when the 3rd Bowser finished talking the input stage is over. So I don't think it saved the US version as much as just made it about 3 seconds or less faster in overall time. Take that away and I'd say they were dead even.
Yeah the reason why Japan was quicker is because in the begging I guess in Japan you say things a lot faster and quicker that's why peaches poem was said faster in the beginning.
With all these glitches, why do mario need keys to pass doors? why don't you simply rush the last bowser passing (wiht BLJ) through all doors and get the last star?
For a 120 star run the american version will surely be way faster, even with every textbox being longer, the lag difference would be stronger and win out in the long run
@@SchoolRumbleX this was a blast from the past lol. Didn't know people actually commented on 7 year old comments. So how are you doing during quarantine?
and stars who are in a box in the american and european version are free in the Jap version and peach didn’t talk in the intro in the jap version and more little Things like that :D
so.. shorter intro = unfair advantage, but bowser talking less = fair? Doesn't make sense, sorry. It's just different spots where you lose / gain time.
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Peach helped Japan while Bowser helped USA
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Ludwig Gaming77 2, NTSC-J had a quicker intro but every bowser the NTSC-U version caught up
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japanese bowser = major troll
Whats Pannenkoek doin here?
So long gay bowser
Differences:
Peach fades away quicker in the Japanese version.
Mario only says “Ha ha” jumping out of the pipe in the North American version.
Bowser’s text is quicker in the North American version.
In the final fight, Mario says “Here we go!” When throwing him in Japanese version, and the infamous “So long gay Bowser!” In the North American version.
Actually it's so long-a Bowser not gay Bowser.
Bowser kept on yapping in the jp version so the us won by 2 milliseconds lol
When American got a key, Japanese got a star. wow.
In the beta version of the game, in instead of the key, you have to pick a star. this was fixed in America version.
(Sorry if my english was bad)
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'Merica. Fuck yeah!!!
So the Japanese version uses the English audio for Peach's opening? Interesting.
wohdinhel Huh? I thought the Japanese version had no audio for Peach at all. This would probably be easier to catch if this video had a stereo option...
wohdinhel No? There's no audio for Peach on the Japanese version during the intro.
No, TAS starts counting at the very first frame even if there's no input, and it finishes on the last input, which is the jump you do to get the star (not when bowser finishes talking). And your statement would be wrong anyway too since there's already inputs before the intro. ;)
I'm wondering to myself: "Does the U.S. version process slightly faster than the JP. version?"
It looks like it tbh, the whole gameplay looked like the US version was catching up
Nah, Bowser's text goes faster
Princess peach
its bc of framerate japanese runs at 30fps american runs at 60
In japanese version there are some stars shorter (Blast to the stone pillar, stand on the four pillars), short enough to probably save what loading would waste (around 6-7 secs at max)
So basically the reasoning of speedrunners playing the japanese version because it's faster is not true (at least for 0-star) and the difference between the two is, at most, about 30 frames.
+Adricgames well, speedrunners usually run 120 star category, which is faster in that case, but for other reasons.
mkdasher Yeah, that's why I said for this category; I didn't know if 120 star was faster on japanese or not.
Why is it faster, anyway?
Adricgames Lot of reasons, in particular there are some stars that are clearly faster
don't forget pal speed up.
both are ntsc though
Great video! my brother always watching this because this is he's favorite game! :)
in order to load different areas (Basement, 1st floor, 2nd floor, etc) you need to open doors.
DrRobotnikHasTakin
firstly, japenese didn't chest, it was just faster peach dialog
second, american still won.
Well, they're doing the EXACT same controller inputs.
***** Nah, they don't
GOTTA GO FAST.
TWICE AS FAST.
Small but interesting differences!
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Lag difference isn't that much. On this run, it's just 0"23 difference (meaning that japanese and american would have tied if it wasnt because of lag).
In a 120 star TAS, lag difference wouldn't be more than 7 secs, and japanese version has some stars faster than American version, like Stand tall in the 4 pillars, or Blast To The Stone Pillar, so I'm still not sure which one would be faster.
This was really interesting. Thanks for making this, MKDasher!
Thanks for pointing that out. Why couldn't the Japanese version always use the bigger text box? Oh well, at least we watched an excellent TAS comparison.
awesome job David, really nice video! Funny to see how the american version is catching up :D
Pedazo vídeo MkDasher.
At 4:53, beat timing ever
Well that was an interesting ending.
Wich one is the best for 16 star ??
You guys are nuts for knowing all this
Is it just me, or is the japanese version of the game more bright/light textured then USA version?
Where
@@lordroy88 hey btw thanks for replying to my 6 year old comment, this means almost more then my life has been taken up by video games instead of getting with a lady, ill be sure to go tell my true love it seems more like ive married princess peach if not a real life like lady thats not based on 60 fps with 144p quality. :P
StickFiguresMaster okay, I get it! Shut the hell up!
Ok
Ok
5'02"48 - tas
remainder (15secs) - end
WR - 5'02"48 - 2012
it was like watching the olympics, me rooting for my country to win. can't believe we did!!
oh the second bowser key unlocks the door on top of stairs from when you enter castle
What about the iQue version?
His point is, in TAS it should be about how quickly the player plays, not how long a cutscene is. Ideally, cutscene times would be standardized so one time vs. another isn't faster than the other simply because of what version of the game they played.
damn, american version has faster scrolling text? faster scrolling text in general or just at the end?
Some how American still won America Fuck yeah
Isn't TAS about when input control starts and ends? Like the US intro took longer but the input stage didn't begin until after the Japanese version. And I would believe when the 3rd Bowser finished talking the input stage is over. So I don't think it saved the US version as much as just made it about 3 seconds or less faster in overall time. Take that away and I'd say they were dead even.
So a 120 stars TAS would be better using NTSC-U or NTSC-J?
Never mind, the box around the star with a name.
sig does 120, not 0. That's different.
Thanks for this explanation
Sig does live in the us
wow! that was incredible indeed.
Which version is better on 120 star
Nickt97 Japanese by about 10 seconds. mostly due to the eyeroks (eye hands in ssl)
I just wanted to know how to play fast like you
Wow The Skills....
can someone send me the link for super mario 64 japan rom? I can only find the north amercian version of it, i want the japaneese version.
nice comeback MERICA!!!
Wow thats amazing
So wouldn't 120 star TAS be faster with Japanese version?
Lol that last text box completely just shuts everything down for the Japanese version
My ears....
i thought they fixed the bljs in japan
No that's shindou version
That's the shindou version
so... whats the big difference?
It's not possible to do a 0 star on Shindou Version, you can't BLJ.
definently the new super mario 64 multiplayer
b-but where's pal? ;-;
Yeah the reason why Japan was quicker is because in the begging I guess in Japan you say things a lot faster and quicker that's why peaches poem was said faster in the beginning.
Wow uh...plot twist at the end!
I always thought Japanese version was faster. Hmm.
is the japenese version also slower in 12
0 star ?
I believe you should had synced them both even with the time differences..
it's unfair because we won't know the time between them
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lol I can do this when I sleep. . . in my dreams
why is 120 star different, there is more loading therefore US should be faster
With all these glitches, why do mario need keys to pass doors?
why don't you simply rush the last bowser passing (wiht BLJ) through all doors and get the last star?
did i just reply a 9 years old comment?
for real its impossible you need the keys. its n’t like other doors its like castler doors. That backroom of death inside of these doors
@@q0a8 You only need one key to beat the game (in a TAS.)
For a 120 star run the american version will surely be way faster, even with every textbox being longer, the lag difference would be stronger and win out in the long run
yes but without TAS
So Sig should play English?
This sounds really messed up...
You really couldnt have the sound turned off on one of the versions?
prommac2 Why would he? There are a few changes when it comes to the voices.
@@SchoolRumbleX this was a blast from the past lol. Didn't know people actually commented on 7 year old comments. So how are you doing during quarantine?
now anyone who ever asks ever will be able to watch this video!
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Houndoom of doom It was a joke.
Anyone know the difference between the versions?
they have different sound for the red coins and the chomp sound different
and stars who are in a box in the american and european version are free in the Jap version and peach didn’t talk in the intro in the jap version and more little Things like that :D
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Japanese took an early lead, but text slowed it down so us wins
The American is much faster the Japanese note in the start is longer American so Japan already has a 1.2 sec lead then
so.. shorter intro = unfair advantage, but bowser talking less = fair? Doesn't make sense, sorry. It's just different spots where you lose / gain time.
Oh wow, I thought that the difference was bigger O_o
2 marios:the mission 64
Japanese gamer: I can beat sm64 faster than you!
American gamer: nuh uh I can!
(1 second win) Japanese gamer SHIIIIITTTTT
Wow the Japenese one just lost because the text boxes contained more letters. GG WP.
Japanese didn't feauture peach talking so they got huge advantage at start
Javier Ayala
japanese text is always less too reason lot of people rather speed that version.
Speedrun the beta version of this game, (use dudaw's ppf file)
link to the file?
Still, the japanese get a shorter intro, giving them an unfair advantage.
My mind blew up -.-
5:27 American won!
download mario 64 version japenese
Wayne them so they are the same
日本でそんなに早かったっけ
Lol I wonder if Japanese subtitles are longer than English subtitles. Otherwise, Japan would have won haha.
you are hardcore!
America #1 :^)
The American version won because it's American!
in the european version i had so long gay boswer too
america won by .223 sec
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Nice this got 64 likes!
u should compare European to american
Oh lol
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