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Ghislane Maxwell - The Making of a Monster | Dorothy Byrne interview
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2022
- Dorothy Byrne the former head of news of Channel 4, tells us about her new three part documentary Ghislaine Maxwell: The Making of a Monster.
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Her father was a monster. I met him and was genuinely afraid of him. No excuses for her behaviour, but what a father.
Yes. Ghislaine had to bring her friends to his parties on his insistence - and one was singled out for him to speak to. She was trained that way - and met epstein through her father.
Fascinating.
I wonder if there was any intimate abuse from his end towards her 🤔.
I would put up with her father too, for a taste of his money.
I believe female sexual predators are rare, but they do exist and, indeed, Lady G is one of them!
Lets see the list of famous VIPs that went to "the Island".
That'll never come out haha
Scientists were targeted. This was a Mossad honey trap/spying operation.
it starts like this. 1. Bill Clinton 2. Bill Gates 3. Prince Andrew
Yeah they destroyed evidence and removed hard drives and cameras etc before the authorities turned up - tipped off
And did what? Those young women knew the drill
Prince Andrew needs to be arrested and answer for his crimes.
Best comment for a good while.
He paid out a civil court settlement to virginia guiffre in February 2022. He does not want it going to court. He is staying in UK To avoid US Authorities - like Epstein & Maxwell tried to avoid and evade authorities
The settlement went to charity for victims
The male predators more often walk away and discard their female victims like toilet paper. Esp men with power and $$$$$. Shameless.
His mummy has paid a hefty sum to keep the victims quiet!
Ghislaine had an overwhelming attitude of entitlement and I would say she felt untouchable. She had nothing but contempt for those girls/young women that she procured for powerful men. She believed JE was also beyond the law, and she enjoyed this power by association.
Spot on
My 78 next door neighbour ( and the 71 year old woman who enanbles him) is EXACTLY the same. He subjected my family and I to HORRIFIC harassment from 1999 right up to 2021.
And even when the Crown Prosecution Service authorised the Police to charge him.....he continued. Why? Because he BELIEVES that he was/is entitled to abuse us. Long story short, in 2021 after a a criminal trial he was found guilty of Harassment Without Violence and subjected to a 3 year Restraining order.
The thing that makes him 'dangerous" is that he is 78, white, english and some would say 'middle -class".
He was/is able to abuse people while 'hiding in plain sight ' because people have a hard time accepting/believing' that a 78 year old white middle-class english man can behave like a PSYCHOPATH behind closed doors.
@@yeldarleumas1847 I have found these sort of people are usually seriously lacking in any kind of human empathy, if you were behind his closed door you might find that his wife had been cowed into submission ( it's a form of abuse). I'm sure if he were analysed he WOULD be found to be a psychopath. horrible experience for you.
@@Olivia-io9sb You are absolutely correct when you mention ' lacking in any kind of human empathy'. He is TOTALLY devoid of any and he does not have a conscience. Along with these two personality traits he is also a well-practiced pathological liar and a bully. There is also the refusal to accept responsibility for their hideous behaviour and projecting their behaviour onto everybody else.
Something else I didn't tell you. In 2019 after a Civil trial at the County Court in Central London His Honour Judge Hellman (HHJ HELLMAN) found that my next door neighbour (and his 71 'girl'friend/enabler ) had harassed her former husband over a period spanning 9 years. The method of harassment that the former husband was subjected to was EXACTLY the same that my family and I were subjected to (which resulted in Criminal trial and his subsequent conviction).
Despite being issued with the Court Injunction after the Civil trial in 2019 which prohibited him from contacting his girlfriends former husband he has continued. On 15th / 16th August 2022 he has to attend Court to be sentenced because he has been found to be in Contempt of Court for breaching the aforementioned Injunction . The former husband and I are hoping that the lunatic will be issued with a suspended prison sentence .
When it comes to harassment I believe with conviction (with the help of his enabler) that my neighbour is one of THE worst offenders in the whole the UK.
The Civil trial in 2019 and the Criminal trial in 2021 demonstrates that not only is there a pattern to his behaviour . I believe that that one does not need to be a Mental Health Professional to ascertain that the man is a psychopath.
The day he (and his girlfriend) take their last breath on earth can't come soon enough.
I can not say how she felt but she seemed to be preened since she was a child to please the male (her father) which went into JE. Somehow I feel she was deeply in love with him or infatuated or even vulnerable at the time they got together . And as you say the entitlement kicked in and I don't no how far she would have gone for him but I think at this stage all reason had gone out the door. I really.dont think Father's realise the effect they have on the Family Good or Bad if I had a choice Taylor Martial would be my next Dad
AMEN
Bloody brilliant. thank you ladies
The making of a monster? What about the monsters she provided underage girls too? Where is the list of names?
I suspect the list is "with " Maxwell, 20 years? how much of that will she serve?
You’ll die, quite literally, if you seek out that list of participants with too much fervor.
The black book is online - 1900+ names!
Yes very valid question WHY has the identity of the Men who were sexually exploiting these children been COVERED up why are they not being prosecuted the women need to expose them ❤️
Because some of these men work /ed for the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, the Supreme Court, the Pentagon,........and of course previous "presidents"!
Well if you watched the results of other sex trafficking cases not related to JE and GM, you will see clients are rarely charged.
They men who abused the girls won't be prosecuted because they are predominately rich powerful and WHITE .
@@tonyadams8812 these are present and past presidents, prime ministers, judges, including supreme court judges, senators, congressmen, philanthropists such as bill gates, etc
@@miaash3870 And 99% of the people who occupy these posistions will be very wealthy white men. The 'system' looks after it's own!
"Ghislane Maxwell has become the first person to be convicted of trafficking children to nobody."
She trafficked them to Epstein.
Best comment I've seen.
They must pursue the men too if real justice is to be given to the victims and to prevent these men from continuing with their appalling behaviour .
What BS. Maxwell refused to cooperate and give up her client list.
@@kaihuang4970 then what is she in prison for 20 years for ?
Thank you ladies, this is a great interview.
This is the phenomenon of the "compulsion to repeat." When you do not resolve your own trauma, you will reenact it as a perpetrator over those weaker than you and a victim with those who have authority over you. That is exactly what she did.
The family did not lose "everything", the likes of Robert Maxwell would have known how to salt away some cash in off-shore accounts for a rainy day.
Exactly AND LEGAL SYSTEMS TREATED OTHER MONEYS OFF LIMITS but not the workers retirement funds!
When you are doing well,
Lot of friends and admirers.
When you get into trouble,
No friends.
That kind of trouble is whole different ballgame...one must cut ties immediately.
@@domichrome1825 You are correct. Still, lot of people were with her in this different ballgame. And those rats conveniently jumped the sinking ship.
Imagine how many rich and powerful people knew about all this without caring about the victims.
It's a lot of people 4sure?
Never love a man or woman more than you love yourself.
Where is the customer list?
Isn't it out somewhere - 1) Prince Andrew 2) Bill Gates 3) Bill Clinton ..... ?
Prince Andrew maybe could answer that question.
All the employees who facilitated this insane and evil organization and said nothing need to be fed feet first into a wood chipper.
There was a guy who worked there for 20 years and got out bc he couldn't take the nasty vibes anymore. They get paid well and do it purely for the money but eventually it Eats at you. He said when he left he felt better than he had in 20 years
Nonsense . Employees were there to do their job and feed
The families , not to lecture employer .
How about to ask the parents about their responsibility ?
@6:13
Ghislaine: Jeffrey, will you marry me?
Jeffrey: No, now go and get me some underage girls.
And she did.
Its a story they are trying to sell
Just to let you know : very few of so called " victims "were
Teens 14 up ( according to EVCF 15%) rest were of age
Prostitutes who served him years long .
The one : I met him at 18 and when turned 25 he didnt want
Sex with me any more , stopped paying and evicted me
From the apartment ".
the series is GREAT!
Where is the list of men who supposedly frequented "his island?"
The FBI has it
They men who abused the girls won't be prosecuted because they are predominately rich powerful and WHITE
The single question no reporter/journalist is addressing is:
Who, ie which government/intelligence agency, was Jeff Epstein working for?
Mossad for sure. Probably MI6, CIA as well.
some argue it was the same one her father worked for: Israel.
@@sharonsekhon9475 Yes, Israel and Mossad (Israel's intelligence agency)
My Uncle met Epstein in the mid 80’s and mentioned he must be working for Mossad. And when Maxwell introduced herself in my art studio in around 2009 she told me she was Israeli, though in reality she had actually been born in France.
@@annbell3864 There is a great deal of "national security" issues attached to Jeffrey Epstein's child trafficking ring!
Mossad/the FBI cannot fake another "suicide"! Ghislaine Maxwell has now been moved to a highly relaxed/comfortable jail in Florida!
Demand and supply. Indeed, where are these people who were participating? If there was no demand there wouldn't be a need to supply.
I listened to a podcast they talked about her dad and how creepy he was. They said something a hit how he thought of Ghislaine as his favorite. And when she was a small child he was gone a lot on business around the world. But when he would return home she already knew to go and pick out a whip. I guess he had several and she would bring it to him and tell him she was ready to be whooped. I was like wait…. What? Am I hearing this right? I didn’t know if she meant she had been bad while he was gone. Or was this some perverted game he liked to play? Perhaps she learned at an early age to be perverted. Not sure.
I think she is right where she needs to be. We don’t need any more girls becoming her victim again.
Well daddy taught her all her perversions, in my opinion.
She mus have had Stockholm Syndrom with her dad. What a psych ward that whole family. Icky
@@jdr9419 you may be right.
I've heard the same story. It sounds like there was a sexual component to this type of behavior.
I wonder why NO ONE EVER , talked about " victims" parents?
Where were they when all that happened ? Where's their
Responsibility? Ever asked their daughters where's money
From ? Expensive clothes , designer handbags , paid med bills ,
Tuitions , scholaships , rents , cars , travelling etc ?
They thought good Samaritans out there buying all that to
Needy girls for nothing ? NO they didnt . KNEW exactly what's
Going on but loved the money and looked other way .
It's not secret , mothers and sisters of " victims" enjoyed the
Perks ; dined , wined and travelled with " abusers " . One Mother
Lived with daughter " victim" ..ahem , in apartment PURCHASED
For them by Epstein . Really ??
It was nicely wrapped prostitution in plain sight , backed and
Encouraged by parents .
Hypocricy of Society is astounding .👎
The Maxwell original wealth was an illusion
So true about need for truthful news. Average person working with, family doesn’t have time. To investigate.very interesting interview thanks.👍
🙏❤️
Sf ca
Yes, of course, women (alas) can be sexual predators. Think of Rosemary West; Myra Hindley--Predation is not gender specific. However, at this point in time it is the male of the species who is the predator.
A predator is a predator male or female... Personally this is not about people it's about money and the BBC are sh***Ng themselves x I think I'm listening to the wrong mainstream story...also 40 years ago we didn't do a lot of things that were accepted today... Mariela you are my new hero x never listened to you before but I certainly will now x
is it me or the host is rooting for the convicted witch?
Tend to agree or she is playing devils advocate
This interviewer feels very shady to me.... like she is making excuses for Ghislaine... in a very entitled way. Ghislaine is guilty and perhaps her former association makes her biased. Ms. Byrne is excellent.
As an American, we have words for women like Ghislaine, and the adjective I would use to describe her wouldn't be nice. I think we'd all like to see those who participated in this held accountable but if it wasn't for Ghislaine, it's doubtful he'd get all of those young girls. She got what she deserved. Maybe by English standards, Ghislaine is beautiful, but I'd say that'd be incorrect.
This interviewer comes across defending Maxwell, Thought it was weird she said she knew her and then later seems to be defending her and its not even her playing devils advocate. Bit odd.
Coz this herd mentality on lynch mobbing her for every moment in her life as something wrong is absolutely wrong and ridiculous let alone excessively unfair. A bit of perspective.
Agreed
Keeps pulling the women are oppressed card
Yes, where are the men that went to the island????????????????????????
Wow this pair know less about this operation than my cat. His banker hanged himself in Malibu, the French operative had an accident fixing his tie in jail. One of her lawyer's dad was involved in the prosecution of Mr E.
Not to mention the charming high profile couple associated with them.
That can make a single vehicle accident look like a drone strike.
And you wonder why no one else has been prosecuted, really!
Its a message .
The trouble with the ‘other perpetrators’ is that they are v well connected - so the truth will stay hidden - that couple were v strange
This creepy woman will have to answer for a lot of what she has done.
Ok ok creepy woman she didn't force anyone??? Is it wrong then for women who lap dance in a stringfellows club??? Taking their clothes off for money..????
@@bubble6853 She is creepy she made her guest do weird sexual things at parties long before she even met Epstein, she is really creepy and a sexual deviant long ago.
@@bubble6853 weird hill to die on my guy
@@bubble6853 BOT
@@bubble6853 oh c'mon, you are talking apples and oranges.
I think "Robert Maxwell" was born under a different name, in Turkey.
Reminds me of Mohammed Al-Fayed, wanting to be British.
There doesn’t appear to be a single video of Maxwell actually talking. Has anyone found one?
The Monster doc has her talking
She talked in front of the WEF. !!!
Look people like Katie Couric attended JE parties.
Interviewer’s obvious bias and excuses for Maxwell is disgusting especially as no doubt if these were acts and behaviors she would not condone by a man
Anyone watched the ch4 documentary? Any good
It's good
This woman as many other people on this planet are able to disguise their true personality. They come across charming and smart. So there is nothing wrong with admitting you liked them before knowing about their evil deeds.
What evil deeds?? They gave the " victims" life of their
Dreams . Best time of their lives , guaranteed !! Women
From nowhere with nothing lived fancy lifestyle with
Hourly rates higher than for doctors and engineers , for
The " job " with no skills required .
C''mmon people , stop pretending !!! 🤮
what was her relationship with her mother?
The mother kept quiet and stayed out of the way of the bad tempered dad.
Kind of ironic that G Maxxx is down in a Florida minimum security prison…
Excellent interview, fantastic insight. Everyone involved needs to be outted and held to account. But here's the contradiction .... As a white, privileged, entitled male, I find myself shocked & angered by the Epstein / Maxwell scandal, whilst another part of me deep down would've been open to a Ghislaine proposal or party invite. I cannot reconcile those two positions.
This isn't an admission of guilt, by the way. I have never, would never. It's a comment about male hypocrisy, and the corruption of the media and the social justice system. Respect & power to the victims, especially those who spoke out.
Thanks
The interview as a former friend seems to have difficulty in accepting things - that man that was propositioned was v credible
Completely agree she just dismisses the testimony
Ghislane had enough contacts and even the family lost everything, she could have rebuilt her life a step at a time. My family lost everything in a Hurricane and within ten years we were back on our feet. Such a beautiful lady to throw everything away.
No
@@patriciawood6250 Like it or not, I am on her side ( Ghislane ). I’m not going to let the court of public opinion, bring her before Pilate, whip and beat her, and make her carry her cross and be crucified. I want to know all the men that are in her “Little black book”. They are the ones that need to be bought before the court. And that lice, rat, cockroach infested jail in Brooklyn is cruel and unusual punishment and unconstitutional.
Personally
1) I don’t care what anybody thinks about me. Not unless you’re rubbing a set of 38 double Ds in my face. Natural female and not implants.
2) I don’t have to be politically correct as I’m not running for office and I don’t need your vote.
Uhhhhh I don't think so, basically the apple doesn't grow far from the tree.
"A beautiful lady "?!!!? Are you out of your mind???!?
@@JMc-mj1dy She was very beautiful Lady , indeed .
Intelligent , educated sophisticated , elegant . Even one of
Her loudest accusers and competitors for Epsteins heart and
Wallet , Maria Farmer said she was STUNNING .
Unfortunately , everything went awry .
The interviewer is a strikingly pretty lady, very cool and smart.
o7:05 70 Million HOuse? can't even imagine!!!
Disgusting to see Dorothy Byrne making excuses for Maxwell
Very sensible woman but Channel 4 issue is difficult. Gov is currently responsible for debts incurred by Channel 4, unclear why.
Great interview, except for a couple of points - Epstein WAS known to Maxwell before her father 'disappeared', An assigned Mossad agent to Maxwell's Mirror group has already stated this on the record, so nothing new there. - The Maxwell's are not British, and certainly never English, they'd never been British and her father was a known criminal dealing in criminal activities. - All the rhetoric about patriarchy is well miss-place, pardon the pun, women were given the right to vote, section 8 of the act in the same statute as what gave men the right to vote, section 1 of the act. Might be time women got over themselves and see it not as a man v woman thing, but a Maxwell's type v normal people.
Eh?
@@dac545j Tom Pennington already covered these points, sadly he took his audios down, maybe they're back up, or email him, but they were covered by him
Robert Maxwell was born a Jewish Czechoslovak citizen , during WW2 joined the British army, was decorated with an MC, became a British citizen in 1946 and an MP for Buckingham in 1964-70. He was not "English" but certainly British for nearly 50 years. His children were/are British.
@@michaelmazowiecki9195 You have a few faux pas in there, which I'm sure both you, and the reader, are fully aware! Next you'll be telling me Ghislaine is an American, hahahaha, jog on...
Didn’t daddy leave Maxwell any money? Maybe he was so in debt there was nothing left?🤷🏽♀️🤷♀️
I don’t think she was actually in it for the money
It is extraordinary how many of the comments are written by people who seem to "know" a great deal but have decided to keep it for the UA-cam comments section of a not-massively-popular station.
I don't know how to do podcast, and much is taken down - hard to get through to people because computer AI
Channel 4: RIP
Where is this airing, what station is channel 4, I can’t find it at all?
@@SLynn349 British terrestrial TV.
Oh and part 1 aired last night, part 2 on tonight and part 3 on Thursday night.
@@SLynn349 I watched it on okru...
exactly they did an investigation, who are the men involved from the island beyond jeffrey
Those girls should name and shame these people.
If only. If they do, they'll be taken out.
@@annajacob7981 could they not join forces ?
Roberts-Giuffre tried with Dershowitz and he sued her.
*do you think that Ghislaine would have been a different person if she surrounded herself with better ppl after her father died in 1991??? or do you think she was just a bad seed in general and would be up to no good regardless of if she met Jeffrey or not???*
Felt Frostrup spent time almost defending Maxwell here
Episodes 2 and 3 were quite repetitious of each other I thought- was good though
Horrible interview got completely off subject of title. Long winded questions mixed with interviewers own opinions
was her father faithful to his wife?
kathy and miles make me sick...
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Ghislaine, did "this wrong" to young girls to become rich!
Can this interviewee speak any slower? 🤦🏻♀️ it is unbearable painful
don't listen then.
I guess you must be used to the rapid fire presentation of some others that is fast, vapid and very annoying. To each his/her own though.
Go to settings and alter your speed to 1.25 or 1.50. I do it all the time and it helps. Also, play captions so you can read and keep up as they speak speedily
Nothing new here
Jeffrey Epstein is in MGTOW heaven right now.
Ghislane is not a Monster.
Too bad Princess Diana couldn't see her brought to Justice her father was the first Monster
Who's Father.???
G h i s i a n e father don't you know
That's not what you wrote.
What? Who?
Prince Andrew lost a lot too.
It is a very "difficult for women" int those jobs, a "very unfamily friendly sort of area to work on television"....
but it is hard for men too, not a lot of places at the top in any of those areas, for men or women, most men and women stay at the bottom and HAVE TO make compromises for family and friends and life in general, I was with her until this point, is it specially hard for women, I think that it is NOW easier than ever for independent women with strong characters, men and women WANT THEM close by. Not just as quotas, but actually useful contributing people!! The way she talked in that segment is making women victims again, they don't need special privileges anymore, they got it, now they just have to show, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, that they got what it takes, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
What do women talk about amongst themselves? Molly Brown Insite.
Everyone is guilty, especially Guiffres.
Tooo much talk of a cuplé of granny’s
They wanted the $$$
They took the flight
Their parents were supportive or absent
They were paid the $$$
Victims, monsters, adult stewardship, respect, abuse and morality are all irrelevant concepts even in the street level sex trade.
Participants roll the dice and take their chances.
These are underage kids trafficking kidnapping forced sex manipulation was hired as a maseusse. The issue is consent.
It was not given, this is a criminal offence
I still do not know what’s going on. Lol. The women were all in their bloody late teens early 20s. And happily chose to go to a Caribbean island on a private plane with loads of rich guys. That ain’t a hard life. Yeah they had sex. Just looks like a normal holiday . Lol 😂
I'm curious to know if you happily chose to go to an island with loads of rich guys and have a 'normal' holiday?
No I didn’t choose to go to an island with loads of rich guys to have a normal holiday.
@@debbiesunlight7047 Thank you for replying.
@@yeldarleumas1847 you are welcome
13 year olds aren't late teens
More unfair bitter attacks on Ghislaine The interviewer is correct propositioning of men by Ghislaine was hardly a crime and when her father died she was devastated.
Ghislaine trial was unjust and her conviction is unsafe. The media mob already convicted her well before trial with accusers ( adults ) all over the media - that was not even prosecutorial allegations threshold and yet they made so much noise that tainted her. They only targeted her after Epstein death. Even the 2 accusers witness used at trial ( Annie, Kate ) was deemed NOT illegal conduct to taint her for the 2 main accusers who provided such inconsistent evidence and the time line. There was so much doubt. Yet the jury who has doubts themselves as there was no proof were convinced to convict her by a pushy juror who should not have been on jury.