Hi Nick. I'm a long time fan of your videos and I really find them useful. I actually went ahead and got an Ohme Home Pro charger installed following watching this video. However, having used it for a while I do feel there are a couple of issues that I have realised which were not covered in your video. Firstly, the charger application does not support multiple EVs. So if you are a multi EV household sharing the Ohme Home Pro, then you will have a large faff to reconfigure the app every time you switch cars to charge. Likewise, if you have guests visiting in an EV who would like to charge, then you'll have to go through the same faff. I believe the app should allow you to add as many cars as you want (within reason) and fast switching between each car should be possible. Further, there should be an easy guest mode that allows anyone with any car to plug-in and the charger can be configured to charge based on a continuous or timed schedule without having to enter any car details. Neither of these features exist with this charger and I feel it's quite a big oversight.
Hi Mil, I contacted Ohme to check whether they were able to offer a guest or multiple EVs option for charging. They did confirm that the system currently does not support this facility at the moment. If anyone is looking for a an EV charger, my recommendation would be to think about what is important to you and get these points checked out by the manufacturers. In my experience they are good at responding to questions.
Hi Nick i want to say thank you for this video as my brother in law rang me yesterday he’s 82 and has just got one of these chargers with a new Vauxhall Mocha EV trough the Motability scheme so problem was the plug on the charger would not come out of it holster on the wall the reason being the holster bracket now is not like you show in this video made from metal it is now black plastic and the weight of the cable was bending it downwards he had no idea you had to press a button to get the plug out so he lives several miles from me and i had no idea what the issue was so i watch a few YT vids on the OHME and yours was far and away the best so i rang him back today and showed him your video over FaceTime job sorted saved me about a 40 mile round trip your footage did. I have watched your videos for several years i have to EVs in my household both MGs ( mistake) that was but you have shown us a lot in that time so thank you very much much and keep up your good stuff Les
Hi buddy, please can you help. I have the new OHME charger with no screen like this one I only want to charge my car on my cheap tariff which is 00:30 - 05:30 but the app doesn't let me do it. I can only set the desired % at departure. If I plug it in at 21.00 but depart for work at 05:30 and only need to top it up from say 40% - 85%. Will it start start charging straight away or work back from 05:30 so it charges on the cheaper rate or does it start charging straight away ?
Hi Nick, Great video! I'm thinking about getting this for my company car. Can the consumed energy from the charger be separated from the household bill for invoicing purposes? Any info would be great.
Great 👍 review Nick - do you think they’ll ever make a non cabled version? Having just ripped the cable out of a Gen 1 Tesla charger it would be good to get to the terminals to replace a damaged lead.
sadly, i would ALWAYS expect planned-obsolescence to be the driving factor in modern engineering :( we do vote with out vallets, but herd do not realise that...
I much prefer a larger box so you can neatly wrap all the cable around the charger, also the CT clamp arrangement means these cannot be fixed on a building separate to the house consumer unit, Zappi still has it for me!
I've used an Ohme cable with a non-tethered charger I got installed for free with our last EV. I think you'll find chargers will still come with a non-tethered option, even if most people want tethered. The Ohme app is good, but takes a bit of an effort to get working with one's setup. It doesn't allow switching vehicles easily for more than one EV, and still cannot use the Mercedes API. However, it worked brilliantly with Octopus Agile, and switching to Octopus Go was effortless in the app. One "feature" of the cable is that it starts charging for about 1 minute as soon as you plug into the car, while it communicates over mobile with Ohme - it then switches to standby, and will turn on at the appointed time/rate. (Does the Ohme charger also do this?) It also needs unplugging & re-inserting if you are going to leave the car plugged in for over 24 hours, otherwise it won't initiate a second charge 24 hours after the first one.
Very useful Nick, I have been thinking about getting this charger. I agree about the holster, could be better if integrated with the main box and in black.
So close... Great features, but the sealed unit with a 5m cable is a problem for me. Front charge port, and I need to reverse in. A 7m cable option is needed. Aesthetically, I'd like to have the backplate extended upward to form the cable holder, looping the cable around the unit, and a more integrated holster below as you suggest, Nick. Thanks for the detailed review.
Without a smart meter or a flexible tariff like Octopus Agile or Go, does the Ohme Home Pro still make sense? Does it still have features that make it stand out against other makes like EO mini or SyncEV? Thanks
What features do Eo mini and sync have that standout? It’s very hard to compare charge points to each other as every single charge point is unique to the buyer of the charge point… I’ve reviewed both sync and Eo see there reviews as see how you feel they compare. Remember there’s no 1 charge point fits all. Also look at todays electric prices and ask your self… will all energy be flexible from now on I think they will
I only have one CT installed on my zappi. I have a powerwall 2 and use settings and move the slider to 100% reserved for grid outages and it doesn't drain the battery.
Zappi or Ohme? That is the question Nick. I have an issue with cat 5 cabling so may have to go for Zappi due to CT + Harvi option. But I read a lot about Zappi failures and server downtime. Still an issue? Be good to hear your thoughts please
If your car isn’t one linked with api just tell it what car it is and that’s it… are you with octopus energy yet? If not you can get cheaper electric with Ohme using intelligent please consider using my refferal link and split £100’with me at evnick.com/energy
@@NicolasRaimo but only applicable to models installed Jan 23 onwards as they updated internal components to achieve it. Older models of the Home Pro can't use the Solar Boost feature.
Hey, great videos! Could you please tell me if my Kia E-Niro 2 have API, the reason I ask is because I have ohme pro installed and I try to get it to max capacity! Thanks!
20:13 very good points raised! perhaps couple more: 1) humans may knock it off, break the plastic inside the holster, or even injure themselves, when passing around so-much-sticking out connector? 2) that vertical steel lip = have they finished it well with file? otherwise i see it potentially sheering off some of the cable's insulation (under certain conditions), if it was to rub there (or even on those down-ward bent ones)...
No name it was just from another brand so its the wallbox holster design i like.... funny enough ohme agreed so they may well have or in process of maybe changing there's
Nick. Thank you so much for this review, another excellent video. However, it does put me in a bit of a dilemma as I was about to purchase an EV charger for my Nissan Leaf 30kWh. I was going to go with the Wallbox but I'm now torn between it and this one. I'm on Octopus Go with 5p off-peak rate for 4 hours. I'm not sure which charger will be best for me given the Leaf and Go tariff. Any suggestions?
Hi Mil honestly I say this again and again there's no 1 fits all charger. Your may find several ev chargers that seem to fit your needs and others will only find 1 that fits what they need. Check both do everything you need them to do then pick whats next important to you. Price/Looks
@@NicolasRaimo yes, totally get what you mean but from what I understand, the Wallbox has timed scheduling which is very reliable for using with Octopus Go. How reliable has the Ohme Home Pro been with Octopus Go tariff?
Great video - I think I’m going to get this charger installed for a Hybrid car that’s on order. My dilemma is; is it worth connecting the CT clamp?. When my house was built the electrician dropped a 32amp cable to the front of the house (for EV), but there isn’t any provision for any data cable. I have a 80amp DNO fuse, gas hob, electric immersion (backup) but gas heated. Only other big users are two Aircon (air to air) units (20 amps each), but rarely used. Other than load balancing, is there any other benefit in connecting the data cable ? It is possible but just means a load of holes to feed cable and then patch up 😒
An update to this so you don’t need to answer this question now. Ohme answered this question for me. I don’t need to connect the CT clamps as it is just load balancing which I don’t need at this point. Solar will be enabled at some point in the next year or so, and it’s then that passing a LAN cable might be useful. I did enlighten Ohme as to meter monitoring systems which they can perhaps link into with their live data. I pointed out I have CT clamps on all my consumer unit circuits monitoring each circuit and therefore when they introduce solar I would be doubling up on CT clamps within my Consumer unit
2:15 Nick, i think you should put all your valuable knowledge off your reviews into spreadsheet, so that we can compare them based on their features and able to make informed purchase decisions. (similarly like Bjorn does with his tests) thank you in advance!
The issue with this is there’s a no fits all bill so the spreadsheet data points would be massive it’s need to be over 50 rows to cover everyone’s needs and musts
@@NicolasRaimo do columns for features and rows for products. and if you put it on your sub-page, you could drive traffic via link to your own web even more ;) i would advise: if this is your niche, claim it while adoption is not high and it will make you 1 revenue stream in future as you'll be go-to influencer for the country! similarly like Bjorn didn't set out to do EV reviews, he was just driving his EV and documenting daily experience. and now he is influencer for his non-BS reviews...
Thanks for this, our potential installer is saying they need to run a full cable for this as our existing one (developer put in a thicker cable ready for this) a s it wont have the extra data cable for load balancing? Really don’t want a new cable ran as all ours are integrated!
He could just run a data cable (cat5) other option.. do you need the load balancing? if its a DNO need then YES you do but if your on a 100amp fuse and your likely charging at night I'd not worry personally... There is other chargers that have load balancing with wireless CT clamps but depending if you need it for DNO am not sure the wireless part conforms to G100 standards
@@NicolasRaimo thank you! I don’t know if we do then, we would only ever have the one charger and so hopefully should be fine? I also am considering the Easee, is that good? Thanks!
A very informative set of information. I am an Octopus customer with Hyundai Ioniq 5 on order. My only practical charger location has virtually no mobile signal. Given that the OHME product is only usable with a mobile signal, is there an equivalent (in terms of performance) charger that can operate via an Ethernet connection?
@@NicolasRaimo That is most helpful and thank you.. We have already decided to take an Ethernet cable link from an Internal Access Point to an External Access Point that would be sited next to the Charger. The External Access Point would take power from the CAT 6 cable to be installed at the consumer unit on its way to the Charger. Hopefully a ZAPPI would be able to connect to this set up. I have to assume that the absence of a mobile signal is not an uncommon challenge for installers in rural areas like mine in Norfolk.
Was looking to change over to this charger so that I can charge a Hyundai I5 on octopus intelligent, but no wifi or ability to extend the data antenna makes it a bit useless for my install. It seems there is no perfect EV charger yet, each one has something holding it back.
assume you have no mobile signal where charger location will be? I know of 3 chargers to go on octopus intelligent HOPEFULLY this year one has ethernet if that helps?
@@NicolasRaimo That’s interesting, the signal at my address is very flakey and the current Rolec charger is too hit and miss to rely on, so I use it as a dumb charger with the car on/off timer. But Rolec isn’t compatible with Octopus Intelligent. A Wi-Fi or Ethernet connected charger could be the solution.
@@metube9541 check out the INDRA charger I believe its in pipeline for intelligent, since my review they have made a new app that's being rolled out to customers as we speak!
Hey Nic, got the ohme home pro 2 installed a couple of months ago all worked fab untill i made the mistake of getting 2 ev's the same seems the ohme has issues distinguishing between the two cars even tho i sign into the ohme app using the respective api sign in for each car ( both are the same make and model ) swapping between them is easy as each is registered under a separate acc with the manufacturer but the ohme just becomes a not so smart charger as it cant connect to either using the api now. wondered if you or anyone has spoken to you re a similar issue???
not with 1 login for 2 cars but had issues with 2 cars 2 apis being a pain as you can't swap you need to delete car and read every time, email ohme support and report issue. However one solution may be using a 2nd email for the 2nd car, or the LEAST popular method telling it NO API then it works same as other EV chargers with no app login but all the GO and Agile benefits... but email and bug support if they see the demand they will add it sooner always been my moan to them.
Looks good, the old ohme never seemed to get the promised updates/improvements and does not seem to be supported by the new generation of smart tariffs. Bit of a disappointment really...
If you wanted to pre heat your car in the morning would you be using mains electric or your car battery? I have had it said to me that using the stored off peak electric in your car is cheaper than using the more expensive morning electric but I like to heat it off the mains.
2 reasons you’d want to, 1 you need all the required range 2 your battery preheat only works when plugged in or has a much shorter cycle when not plugged in
I am currently looking to install a home EV charger. I have a 1st generation smart meter and I am currently with Bulb. 4G is okay about 8mb download and 1.5mb upload. Would you recommend the Ohme for me or another brand? Thanks!
Hi Mitchell smart meter doesn't really matter if its 1st gen and the new company can't read it they will just fit a new meter, I'd prefer to NEVER recommend any charger to anyone as its not a 1 solution fits all. Everyone is going to have very different needs. However if your question is will this charger work then yes it doesn't need a high upload or download as its sending TINY packets of data to work
This was top of my list but no wifi on it is killer for me, rubbish mobile signal in my area. Also I have seen that several of the cheap electricity deals, like Octopus, seem to be offering their cheap rate between 12.30 and 4.30am and I think I understood correctly that this can't cope with that. Seems odd looking at its other complexities with rate chasing that it cant have a simple timer - Shame it looks good otherwise.
You can’t set a simple timer but you tell it your energy tariff and it responds to the price automatically so will charge in them hour rates if that’s when cheap electric is, You can also make a custom energy deal in the app if yours wasn’t listed and say that’s when cheap power is
There’s 15 firms making chargers all same price if you can do it for less start your own charge company fact is you can’t do it for less there’s more involved and the parts and production costs are fixed
To me, it is not one of the best you have to pay monthly fee for mobile Sim card inside because it uses 3G, 4G Mobile signal Who wants the extra cost Nothing seems straightforward with ev today everybody wants subscriptions an extra cost every month I just want to top up my car without paying any more
@@NicolasRaimo I was looking on UA-cam just to get heads up about the how the machine works until I did some research into i come across it and I said why is it not straightforward on your website they said looking into it to see if that can be changed .’to be honest you need to do your research I’ve just got off the phone because I’m having one installed and he said after three years roughly. About £3 A month Not much, but everything starts off cheap so I have cancelled. They said they’re working on one what does not have 4g mobile signal in it, but at the moment they haven’t got one ev car? Not straightforward today everybody wants something off you. You can’t use of public charging without signing up to something and if you do use contactless you get punished by paying more, you don’t go in a grocery store and pay more by contactless. Makes no sense. This EV, it’s just not straightforward. Why can’t people? just topping up like petrol or diesel? Things need to be simple, not been charged for everything
@@vincelemon6343 so you’re telling me my Electric provider will pick up the bill for it Why would they do that? Why your electric provider? Will not it will be costing millions of pounds from millions of customers? I don’t think so. before you know it, you will pay £10 £15 a month and people be saying I don’t want to pay it it makes no sense just don’t have a Sim card in it like a lot of them don’t you don’t need to update something. Just have a standard box you can put into your car so what happens if you don’t pay? Does the box stop working?
I’ve only had it a day and I think the thing is a pain in the ass, why can’t it just be simple, charge and stop. I just want to plug my car in and have it start charging immediately and charge until full, or until I go out again. I get all sorts of messages, charging postponed until random times, sometimes I just get the thing sitting there doing nothing, sometimes it says charging but when I check my car it’s not charging. Some people just want a simple plug in until charged option. If someone knows how to be able to just start the unit charging immediately when I plug it in, on the app and on the outside unit, please let me know. Maybe I’m just old and useless and don’t know what I’m doing, but I didn’t find the app intuitive and easy to navigate, also when the unit is charging and you want to stop it, it’s not always possible, on the red max charge setting you can select stop charging on the main unit, but on the blue smart charging screen I couldn’t find an option to stop it from charging. 🫤
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Hi Nick. I'm a long time fan of your videos and I really find them useful. I actually went ahead and got an Ohme Home Pro charger installed following watching this video. However, having used it for a while I do feel there are a couple of issues that I have realised which were not covered in your video. Firstly, the charger application does not support multiple EVs. So if you are a multi EV household sharing the Ohme Home Pro, then you will have a large faff to reconfigure the app every time you switch cars to charge. Likewise, if you have guests visiting in an EV who would like to charge, then you'll have to go through the same faff. I believe the app should allow you to add as many cars as you want (within reason) and fast switching between each car should be possible. Further, there should be an easy guest mode that allows anyone with any car to plug-in and the charger can be configured to charge based on a continuous or timed schedule without having to enter any car details. Neither of these features exist with this charger and I feel it's quite a big oversight.
Hi Mil, I contacted Ohme to check whether they were able to offer a guest or multiple EVs option for charging. They did confirm that the system currently does not support this facility at the moment. If anyone is looking for a an EV charger, my recommendation would be to think about what is important to you and get these points checked out by the manufacturers. In my experience they are good at responding to questions.
This is an important feature not mentioned anywhere. thank you for mentioning it. What charger is good for multiple EVs?
Hi Nick i want to say thank you for this video as my brother in law rang me yesterday he’s 82 and has just got one of these chargers with a new Vauxhall Mocha EV trough the Motability scheme so problem was the plug on the charger would not come out of it holster on the wall the reason being the holster bracket now is not like you show in this video made from metal it is now black plastic and the weight of the cable was bending it downwards he had no idea you had to press a button to get the plug out so he lives several miles from me and i had no idea what the issue was so i watch a few YT vids on the OHME and yours was far and away the best so i rang him back today and showed him your video over FaceTime job sorted saved me about a 40 mile round trip your footage did.
I have watched your videos for several years i have to EVs in my household both MGs ( mistake) that was but you have shown us a lot in that time so thank you very much much and keep up your good stuff
Les
Brill glad a could help!
Thank you for a really great review. Think the Ohme is now my first choice, with a lot of help from your video. Thank you!
Get mine installed this coming Wednesday, all in for £499. I do have solar, so hopefully solar support is up and running soon.
Cheers for the video.
Hope you enjoy it!
That's a hell of a good price. Where did you buy it from please.
15:16 checking with your phone would only be a valid test if you're on thr same network as Ohme use, unless they can use any network?
It’s a multi network sim Mike
Hi buddy, please can you help. I have the new OHME charger with no screen like this one I only want to charge my car on my cheap tariff which is 00:30 - 05:30 but the app doesn't let me do it. I can only set the desired % at departure. If I plug it in at 21.00 but depart for work at 05:30 and only need to top it up from say 40% - 85%. Will it start start charging straight away or work back from 05:30 so it charges on the cheaper rate or does it start charging straight away ?
Are you on octopus intelligent?
Can the details of changes be viewed at any time aftwards ?
Hi Nick, Great video! I'm thinking about getting this for my company car. Can the consumed energy from the charger be separated from the household bill for invoicing purposes? Any info would be great.
You can see what each charger session used in the app but you can't create invoices as such from it.
Great 👍 review Nick - do you think they’ll ever make a non cabled version? Having just ripped the cable out of a Gen 1 Tesla charger it would be good to get to the terminals to replace a damaged lead.
Doubtful the market is doing tethered now with the stuff am privy to all other new charge points from others will likely follow suite
sadly, i would ALWAYS expect planned-obsolescence to be the driving factor in modern engineering :(
we do vote with out vallets, but herd do not realise that...
Great video dude. Very informative.
Glad you liked it!
I much prefer a larger box so you can neatly wrap all the cable around the charger, also the CT clamp arrangement means these cannot be fixed on a building separate to the house consumer unit, Zappi still has it for me!
I've used an Ohme cable with a non-tethered charger I got installed for free with our last EV. I think you'll find chargers will still come with a non-tethered option, even if most people want tethered.
The Ohme app is good, but takes a bit of an effort to get working with one's setup. It doesn't allow switching vehicles easily for more than one EV, and still cannot use the Mercedes API.
However, it worked brilliantly with Octopus Agile, and switching to Octopus Go was effortless in the app.
One "feature" of the cable is that it starts charging for about 1 minute as soon as you plug into the car, while it communicates over mobile with Ohme - it then switches to standby, and will turn on at the appointed time/rate. (Does the Ohme charger also do this?) It also needs unplugging & re-inserting if you are going to leave the car plugged in for over 24 hours, otherwise it won't initiate a second charge 24 hours after the first one.
Very useful Nick, I have been thinking about getting this charger. I agree about the holster, could be better if integrated with the main box and in black.
It’s a huge improvement on the previous model
So close... Great features, but the sealed unit with a 5m cable is a problem for me. Front charge port, and I need to reverse in. A 7m cable option is needed. Aesthetically, I'd like to have the backplate extended upward to form the cable holder, looping the cable around the unit, and a more integrated holster below as you suggest, Nick. Thanks for the detailed review.
Great review!
Without a smart meter or a flexible tariff like Octopus Agile or Go, does the Ohme Home Pro still make sense? Does it still have features that make it stand out against other makes like EO mini or SyncEV? Thanks
What features do Eo mini and sync have that standout?
It’s very hard to compare charge points to each other as every single charge point is unique to the buyer of the charge point…
I’ve reviewed both sync and Eo see there reviews as see how you feel they compare.
Remember there’s no 1 charge point fits all.
Also look at todays electric prices and ask your self… will all energy be flexible from now on I think they will
can you tell it to charge directly off solar panels like the zappi? rather than off the grid, great instructive videos thank you
No you can’t currently I believe it’s coming soon but as of yet no
They are about to start this as i had my charger fitted today and an option to try solar only, grid and solar, or grid only trial is now in the app.
@@vincelemon6343 thank you for your reply
@@vincelemon6343 can you tell me if the solar only works well on the app? Or has it not been set to run yet? Thanks
Many are not going to like extra junction box outside how difficult was opening the sealed box ? Realise warranty will be banished but
Not easy and they are then solider to B-road if you don’t like the extra box or can’t hide it on an inside wall maybe not the charger for you
I only have one CT installed on my zappi. I have a powerwall 2 and use settings and move the slider to 100% reserved for grid outages and it doesn't drain the battery.
Zappi or Ohme? That is the question Nick. I have an issue with cat 5 cabling so may have to go for Zappi due to CT + Harvi option. But I read a lot about Zappi failures and server downtime. Still an issue? Be good to hear your thoughts please
Hi nick could you explain how am i to use this with a mg zs ev 71 plate. I have just purchased this charger an bit concerned about the api issue
If your car isn’t one linked with api just tell it what car it is and that’s it… are you with octopus energy yet? If not you can get cheaper electric with Ohme using intelligent please consider using my refferal link and split £100’with me at evnick.com/energy
I don't think they ever implemented the solar integration did they?
It’s in beta now I believe
@@NicolasRaimo but only applicable to models installed Jan 23 onwards as they updated internal components to achieve it. Older models of the Home Pro can't use the Solar Boost feature.
Hey, great videos! Could you please tell me if my Kia E-Niro 2 have API, the reason I ask is because I have ohme pro installed and I try to get it to max capacity! Thanks!
Yes the Ohme app does support Kia API
What is the name of the holster you mention?
“A prelead with your earth,your live and your cpc” 🤔…… never seen one of them Nick!
😂 didn’t I say live neutral and CPC…
Fully installed for £499 with Octopus 👍🏻
Lots of IF and BUTS thou only certain areas is one of them examples
would be very interesting, but also very hard, to workout ROI on that...
20:13 very good points raised!
perhaps couple more:
1) humans may knock it off, break the plastic inside the holster, or even injure themselves, when passing around so-much-sticking out connector?
2) that vertical steel lip = have they finished it well with file? otherwise i see it potentially sheering off some of the cable's insulation (under certain conditions), if it was to rub there (or even on those down-ward bent ones)...
Ohme please offer a non tethered version soon
13:12 you had it right 50+25=75
but, yes, even it it was little cheeky SEO/engagement-rate hack... ;)
😂 I know long night of writing and recording script
Thanks for review - what's the name of the alternative holster you suggested at end of video? One that doesn't stick out so much
No name it was just from another brand so its the wallbox holster design i like.... funny enough ohme agreed so they may well have or in process of maybe changing there's
Nick. Thank you so much for this review, another excellent video. However, it does put me in a bit of a dilemma as I was about to purchase an EV charger for my Nissan Leaf 30kWh. I was going to go with the Wallbox but I'm now torn between it and this one. I'm on Octopus Go with 5p off-peak rate for 4 hours. I'm not sure which charger will be best for me given the Leaf and Go tariff. Any suggestions?
Hi Mil honestly I say this again and again there's no 1 fits all charger. Your may find several ev chargers that seem to fit your needs and others will only find 1 that fits what they need. Check both do everything you need them to do then pick whats next important to you. Price/Looks
@@NicolasRaimo yes, totally get what you mean but from what I understand, the Wallbox has timed scheduling which is very reliable for using with Octopus Go. How reliable has the Ohme Home Pro been with Octopus Go tariff?
@@mil3761 ohme again perfect for that we use the older ohme charger at our current one with zero issues ever
Great video - I think I’m going to get this charger installed for a Hybrid car that’s on order. My dilemma is; is it worth connecting the CT clamp?. When my house was built the electrician dropped a 32amp cable to the front of the house (for EV), but there isn’t any provision for any data cable. I have a 80amp DNO fuse, gas hob, electric immersion (backup) but gas heated. Only other big users are two Aircon (air to air) units (20 amps each), but rarely used.
Other than load balancing, is there any other benefit in connecting the data cable ? It is possible but just means a load of holes to feed cable and then patch up 😒
An update to this so you don’t need to answer this question now. Ohme answered this question for me. I don’t need to connect the CT clamps as it is just load balancing which I don’t need at this point. Solar will be enabled at some point in the next year or so, and it’s then that passing a LAN cable might be useful. I did enlighten Ohme as to meter monitoring systems which they can perhaps link into with their live data. I pointed out I have CT clamps on all my consumer unit circuits monitoring each circuit and therefore when they introduce solar I would be doubling up on CT clamps within my Consumer unit
2:15 Nick, i think you should put all your valuable knowledge off your reviews into spreadsheet, so that we can compare them based on their features and able to make informed purchase decisions.
(similarly like Bjorn does with his tests)
thank you in advance!
The issue with this is there’s a no fits all bill so the spreadsheet data points would be massive it’s need to be over 50 rows to cover everyone’s needs and musts
@@NicolasRaimo do columns for features and rows for products.
and if you put it on your sub-page, you could drive traffic via link to your own web even more ;)
i would advise: if this is your niche, claim it while adoption is not high and it will make you 1 revenue stream in future as you'll be go-to influencer for the country!
similarly like Bjorn didn't set out to do EV reviews, he was just driving his EV and documenting daily experience. and now he is influencer for his non-BS reviews...
Quality presentation thank you.
Cheers Robert
What would you do in the setup if you have 2 types of car? Do I have to make a choice for which API? Thanks
Yes! This is one of the major let downs of ohme is the inability to switch cars easily you’d have to logout each api for each car :(
or get 2 chargers :(
Thanks for this, our potential installer is saying they need to run a full cable for this as our existing one (developer put in a thicker cable ready for this) a s it wont have the extra data cable for load balancing? Really don’t want a new cable ran as all ours are integrated!
He could just run a data cable (cat5) other option.. do you need the load balancing? if its a DNO need then YES you do but if your on a 100amp fuse and your likely charging at night I'd not worry personally... There is other chargers that have load balancing with wireless CT clamps but depending if you need it for DNO am not sure the wireless part conforms to G100 standards
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@@NicolasRaimo thank you! I don’t know if we do then, we would only ever have the one charger and so hopefully should be fine? I also am considering the Easee, is that good? Thanks!
@@apocreg11 review on channel about easee I not reviewed easee one which has built in pen fault but it’s pretty much the same
Ohme is UK only right?
21:55 and lack of hackeable removable RaspberryPi inside? ;)
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Neo awaken into new reality?
A very informative set of information. I am an Octopus customer with Hyundai Ioniq 5 on order. My only practical charger location has virtually no mobile signal. Given that the OHME product is only usable with a mobile signal, is there an equivalent (in terms of performance) charger that can operate via an Ethernet connection?
Have a look at zappi they have an option which uses a hub which sends a local radio signal to your charger that’s separate from WiFi
@@NicolasRaimo That is most helpful and thank you.. We have already decided to take an Ethernet cable link from an Internal Access Point to an External Access Point that would be sited next to the Charger. The External Access Point would take power from the CAT 6 cable to be installed at the consumer unit on its way to the Charger. Hopefully a ZAPPI would be able to connect to this set up. I have to assume that the absence of a mobile signal is not an uncommon challenge for installers in rural areas like mine in Norfolk.
Was looking to change over to this charger so that I can charge a Hyundai I5 on octopus intelligent, but no wifi or ability to extend the data antenna makes it a bit useless for my install.
It seems there is no perfect EV charger yet, each one has something holding it back.
assume you have no mobile signal where charger location will be? I know of 3 chargers to go on octopus intelligent HOPEFULLY this year one has ethernet if that helps?
@@NicolasRaimo That’s interesting, the signal at my address is very flakey and the current Rolec charger is too hit and miss to rely on, so I use it as a dumb charger with the car on/off timer. But Rolec isn’t compatible with Octopus Intelligent. A Wi-Fi or Ethernet connected charger could be the solution.
@@metube9541 check out the INDRA charger I believe its in pipeline for intelligent, since my review they have made a new app that's being rolled out to customers as we speak!
@@NicolasRaimo thanks
Hey Nic, got the ohme home pro 2 installed a couple of months ago all worked fab untill i made the mistake of getting 2 ev's the same seems the ohme has issues distinguishing between the two cars even tho i sign into the ohme app using the respective api sign in for each car ( both are the same make and model ) swapping between them is easy as each is registered under a separate acc with the manufacturer but the ohme just becomes a not so smart charger as it cant connect to either using the api now. wondered if you or anyone has spoken to you re a similar issue???
not with 1 login for 2 cars but had issues with 2 cars 2 apis being a pain as you can't swap you need to delete car and read every time, email ohme support and report issue. However one solution may be using a 2nd email for the 2nd car, or the LEAST popular method telling it NO API then it works same as other EV chargers with no app login but all the GO and Agile benefits... but email and bug support if they see the demand they will add it sooner always been my moan to them.
@@NicolasRaimo cheers Nic yeah I've a single ohme acc so 1 email but 2 separate bmw acc, one for each i3s..
Looks good, the old ohme never seemed to get the promised updates/improvements and does not seem to be supported by the new generation of smart tariffs. Bit of a disappointment really...
Hi Nic. Does that charger need A Type RCBO?
It has built in DC leakage protection
If you wanted to pre heat your car in the morning would you be using mains electric or your car battery? I have had it said to me that using the stored off peak electric in your car is cheaper than using the more expensive morning electric but I like to heat it off the mains.
2 reasons you’d want to,
1 you need all the required range
2 your battery preheat only works when plugged in or has a much shorter cycle when not plugged in
@@NicolasRaimo sorry what I was saying was will this charger let you do it or will it be “off” because it’s not at your off peak tariff?
@@scottwills4698 i don't think it's their intention to allow it. they see us as grid-load problem so they would want to make you use the battery pack.
I am currently looking to install a home EV charger. I have a 1st generation smart meter and I am currently with Bulb. 4G is okay about 8mb download and 1.5mb upload. Would you recommend the Ohme for me or another brand? Thanks!
Hi Mitchell smart meter doesn't really matter if its 1st gen and the new company can't read it they will just fit a new meter, I'd prefer to NEVER recommend any charger to anyone as its not a 1 solution fits all. Everyone is going to have very different needs. However if your question is will this charger work then yes it doesn't need a high upload or download as its sending TINY packets of data to work
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Does the ohme screen always stay on when not in use?
No as the unit goes to sleep if not used if not used also can be turned on/off via the app.
This was top of my list but no wifi on it is killer for me, rubbish mobile signal in my area. Also I have seen that several of the cheap electricity deals, like Octopus, seem to be offering their cheap rate between 12.30 and 4.30am and I think I understood correctly that this can't cope with that. Seems odd looking at its other complexities with rate chasing that it cant have a simple timer - Shame it looks good otherwise.
You can’t set a simple timer but you tell it your energy tariff and it responds to the price automatically so will charge in them hour rates if that’s when cheap electric is, You can also make a custom energy deal in the app if yours wasn’t listed and say that’s when cheap power is
Can you use this in the USA
They haven’t yet launched in the US
Crazy prices for a circuit board in a plastic box. These companies must be making a killing while there’s limited choice in the market.
There’s 15 firms making chargers all same price if you can do it for less start your own charge company fact is you can’t do it for less there’s more involved and the parts and production costs are fixed
Ah but this hasn’t got solar is that right?
It has now as of today.
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To me, it is not one of the best you have to pay monthly fee for mobile Sim card inside because it uses 3G, 4G Mobile signal Who wants the extra cost
Nothing seems straightforward with ev today everybody wants subscriptions an extra cost every month I just want to top up my car without paying any more
I don’t know of a single Ohme customer paying for the SIM card….
@@NicolasRaimo I was looking on UA-cam just to get heads up about the how the machine works until I did some research into i come across it and I said why is it not straightforward on your website they said looking into it to see if that can be changed .’to be honest you need to do your research I’ve just got off the phone because I’m having one installed and he said after three years roughly. About £3 A month Not much, but everything starts off cheap so I have cancelled. They said they’re working on one what does not have 4g mobile signal in it, but at the moment they haven’t got one ev car? Not straightforward today everybody wants something off you. You can’t use of public charging without signing up to something and if you do use contactless you get punished by paying more, you don’t go in a grocery store and pay more by contactless. Makes no sense. This EV, it’s just not straightforward. Why can’t people? just topping up like petrol or diesel? Things need to be simple, not been charged for everything
Ohme pay sim charges for the first 3 years then id guess your electric provider might pick up the bill as be in their interests to do so.
@@vincelemon6343 so you’re telling me my Electric provider will pick up the bill for it Why would they do that? Why your electric provider? Will not it will be costing millions of pounds from millions of customers? I don’t think so. before you know it, you will pay £10 £15 a month and people be saying I don’t want to pay it it makes no sense just don’t have a Sim card in it like a lot of them don’t you don’t need to update something. Just have a standard box you can put into your car so what happens if you don’t pay? Does the box stop working?
I’ve only had it a day and I think the thing is a pain in the ass, why can’t it just be simple, charge and stop. I just want to plug my car in and have it start charging immediately and charge until full, or until I go out again. I get all sorts of messages, charging postponed until random times, sometimes I just get the thing sitting there doing nothing, sometimes it says charging but when I check my car it’s not charging. Some people just want a simple plug in until charged option. If someone knows how to be able to just start the unit charging immediately when I plug it in, on the app and on the outside unit, please let me know. Maybe I’m just old and useless and don’t know what I’m doing, but I didn’t find the app intuitive and easy to navigate, also when the unit is charging and you want to stop it, it’s not always possible, on the red max charge setting you can select stop charging on the main unit, but on the blue smart charging screen I couldn’t find an option to stop it from charging. 🫤
Have you looked at evnick.com/charge link the random charging to octopus your get to split £100 with me plus cheaper electricity