Concerning the comments saying it's still symmetrical in some levels. When it comes to PvZ people use "symmetrical" to describe defenses where every lane has the same plants at the same spot, or simply when the upper and lower lanes are mirrored. When you only plant in the middle you can't really call it "symmetry" because there's no up or down to mirror or anything.
You can though, using not the oddly specific rules for the challenge that make it possible instead of just admitting it's not. If there's nothing planted, then it by default is mirrored and symmetrical. So yes, challenge failed right from the get go. Also, for 1 2 or 1 3, isn't it super easy and not rng? I may be confused on the word symmetrical somehow, but couldn't you just switch around the placement of 1 pea shooter and sunflower in the same row and break symmetry?
Your own argument was fine till you talked about "only planting in the middle" even by your own definition of symmetry here because if you want it to be "symmetry" then I could plant peashooters in multiple rows and not have it be symmetrical. By your own rules and chaotic reasoning, none of this makes sense... in fact actually without symmetry it is easy to do this.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 Yes actually, you could. Literally What I was trying to say. As long as the lawn is mirrored, there is symmetry. I can plant whatever wherever as long as it is mirrored. If we cut down the middle lane, only planting in the middle lane would create symmetry.
lol what is wrong with these replies. His rule set doesn't care about actual symmetry, his only rule is you can't have the same plant on 2 different lanes, whether or not it is symmetrical geometrically.
I love how all of the roof levels were extremely hard, most of them basically requiring save-scumming and incredibly hard, and then the final boss is an even easier version of the already extremely easy final boss.
I would like this comment but then the 69 would change to 70 Update: funny is no more liked Update the sequel: yeah, i was an idiot thinking it was funny
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fun fact! I started playing recently, and I used the "remove all pots except for one lane" strategy thanks to you. it was actually about as easy as the video says!
1:31 The small text that immediately dissapiers reads: "No idea why my Peashooter was on the Sunflower lane let alone why that ended up being my winning attempt..."
@@Vamptre actually, unlike most non-catapult plants, Fume-shroom can pierce through the roof slope. So, it's really helpful on the roof against groups of zombies and cheaper than melon-pults even with coffee bean (even though melon-pult is better)
These challenges could be so easy if your character just remembered to close and lock their doors Edit: for those who don’t know, there are chimney roofs you can get. Boom, please stop telling me about roof levels
@@sykerblade5353 I never said this was a pointless challenge to begin with. Dont know why your being hostile n hating on Pokemon on a Plants vs Zombies video
This man is literally the definition of insanity Edit: Oh sorry I think I said this wrong I meant to say *this man is beyond the definition of insanity*
Is he doing the exact same thing repeatedly expecting something different though? If he were doing something like Shiny hunting he'd be insane. Edit: he's gotten to the Roof, now he's insane.
@UN Owen Welp, may as well test my grammar skills. 1. It is "I'm," an abbreviation of "I am." 2. It is spelled "gonna," though in the case of essays and such "going to" is a much better phrase. 3. It is "you." 4. It is "off," not "of." Of is used to show ownership if the word is placed between the object in question and the owner, but it also has other uses, such as showing how many of something there is. 5. It is "with," not "width." Width is a measurement to show how wide something is, usually being the shorter measurement in a 3-dimensional object, the other three measurements being length and height. 6. It is "comment." A comet is a rock found in space, and is distinguishable from a meteorite. 7. It is "you're," an abbreviation of "you are." 8. "An" is only used if the proceeding word starts with a vowel letter, vowels being a group of letters composed of a, e, i, o, and u. "A" is the correct phrase for you to use, as it is used when the following word starts with a consonant, consonants being all letters outside of vowels. 9. Once again, it is "you." 10. It is "know." No is a term used to decline an offering or demand. 11. You are to use a period, not a semicolon. Semicolons are only to be used if a sentence is incomplete or too short, and are very situational in terms of grammar.
Such an accursed thing shall be destroyed before the greater man discovers this? How dare you allow yourself, a lawful person, to produce such a vile thing?
First I thought it sounds rather easy, than I'm very quickly proven wrong by the second level, the pool levels make me understand that it's even more of a challenge, and than you get to the roof top which I would give real quickly, I'm amazed it's even possible. Than Zomboss, I thought it's literally impossible but you give us such a plot twist, I was surprised again. This video was a unexpected roller coster!
@@themichaelconnor42 Yeah... that's the whole point of the challenge, artificially making something more difficult to see if you can achieve something even if it were harder than intended. What's your point?
@@topek8693 No, my point is he's only thinking of one form of symmetry (vertical), making sure that the lines can't be reflected across the x-axis. But only focusing on the vertical rows completely ignores the horizontal columns...if he were to view the board as a grid, it would allow for vertical and horizontal symmetry, along with rotational and radial symmetry. It would be a much easier "challenge", but it would create more interesting gameplay and patterns.
@@themichaelconnor42 Oh, I see now, but this challenge is about not being symmetrical so wouldn't considering other axis make it harder, especially pool stages? Maybe it could make it easier for stages with all the rows but I can't say for sure untill I see it I suppose.
Watching this was like one of those "99% can't beat" mobile game ads where the solution is literally being given to whoever is playing and yet not a single correct move is made and you're just sitting there wanting to break the screen you're watching on because they're just fucking teasing you into downloading the game and showing them how easy it is and how fucking braindead they are.
I know that horizontal rows are much harder and make for a better challenge, but technically as long as one plant isn't in the same vertical column it's never symmetrical anyway
Shyguymask, I want to thank for the amount of effort you put in your videos for your fanbase. We appreciate you, and the work that you put in - Chuck :)
I think SGM went nuts. 3-4 from 2 seed slots challenge made him lose all of his mental health. And where did it bring him? To not doing symmetrical defenses. Are u ok SGM?
If you want to do this without save scumming, you can change it to “without plant symmetry”. That way flower pots don’t count, because they’re not plants, they’re inanimate objects
I'd expect no symmetry to just be, you know, an asymmetrical defense. This is more of just "none of the same plant in more than one lane" with a consequence of no symmetry
Concerning the comments saying it's still symmetrical in some levels. When it comes to PvZ people use "symmetrical" to describe defenses where every lane has the same plants at the same spot, or simply when the upper and lower lanes are mirrored. When you only plant in the middle you can't really call it "symmetry" because there's no up or down to mirror or anything.
I think I accidentally contributed to this comment trying to joke around
You can though, using not the oddly specific rules for the challenge that make it possible instead of just admitting it's not. If there's nothing planted, then it by default is mirrored and symmetrical. So yes, challenge failed right from the get go.
Also, for 1 2 or 1 3, isn't it super easy and not rng? I may be confused on the word symmetrical somehow, but couldn't you just switch around the placement of 1 pea shooter and sunflower in the same row and break symmetry?
Your own argument was fine till you talked about "only planting in the middle" even by your own definition of symmetry here because if you want it to be "symmetry" then I could plant peashooters in multiple rows and not have it be symmetrical.
By your own rules and chaotic reasoning, none of this makes sense... in fact actually without symmetry it is easy to do this.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 Yes actually, you could. Literally What I was trying to say. As long as the lawn is mirrored, there is symmetry. I can plant whatever wherever as long as it is mirrored. If we cut down the middle lane, only planting in the middle lane would create symmetry.
lol what is wrong with these replies. His rule set doesn't care about actual symmetry, his only rule is you can't have the same plant on 2 different lanes, whether or not it is symmetrical geometrically.
the minute he said “lily pads count” i was like “oh no. the pots. oh god”
Same here
I must have not been paying attention
Same, I thought he would've given up
The pots... WHY SO UNLUCKY
Yeah, my mind went to the pots immediately. I had no idea how that would be possible.
This challenge got a *lot* more interesting when I realised Lily's and Pots count.
Shit just went from 0 to 100 real fuckin quick
It was top comment so i got spoiled :
wait this was 24 seconds ago
24 minutes ago really
@@TylazerMK me too
There are literal zombies in the game, but this video proved who the real monster is.
Shyguymask:laughs in heresy
Omg you said it all my dude
Still the zombies?
@@Nuclearburrit0 it's the video creator for not making it symmetrical like a heretic
I agree
It’s been 12 years and I still had no idea that “One of your peashooters died! Try planting them further to the left!” message existed
exactly, me too i had to go play the game to see for myself
Oh, on the first levwl XD and other very unknow message is the one that pops up when you dont select sunflower on 2-1
Bless up 😔🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@nixk8028 uy no me fijé
what? where??
I mean, just saying "no symmetry" could just mean a jumbled mess instead of this. But, this is way more impressive
Yeah, I was expecting there to be no more than 2 plants lined up horizontally or vertically
I kinda wanna do that now
Tbh, that’s what I expected
666 likes
yes.
@@drawnwithlove3499 At that point it's just playing diagonally!
I love how he's providing tips for this challenge like us at home are crazy enough to attempt the hell he's had to slog through as well
Someone probably has
We will
looks fun...
I might try this... but I'm presumably stopping on Roof since that's kaizo (impossible) level
It's pretty fun so far. But he underplayed ho hard the small zombies were.
Alternate title: This video will make you even more uncomfortable.
He did it in the past now his doing it again.
Kill me after I watch this video. Then never speak a word.
yes
@@hueabano7067 ok. *gunshot*
@@Tilde_Shii dorime ameno
Pain to my eyes
I love how all of the roof levels were extremely hard, most of them basically requiring save-scumming and incredibly hard, and then the final boss is an even easier version of the already extremely easy final boss.
I love how a doom-shroom that literally explodes cant kill a gargantuar in 1 hit but a simple lawnmower can.
Lawnmower - the best weapon
@@LEMON-HOW the strongest thing in universe
Infinity gauntlet : hell yeah. It's m-
Me : NOT YOU. IT'S YOU OVER THERE
Lawn mower : hell yeah. It's me
@@wcspp8494 lawn mower can destroy thanos
@@ganyu6418 but lawn mower can’t destroy the doctor himself
@@sirtieman I know but he can
**points at apple**
imagine being zomboss and u just see a guy removing all pots from the roof
I'm surprised he didn't die from the unsymmetricalness
At that point yo know you’re in danger
Zomboss be like: yo wth
I’ve seen that profile pic somewhere else
@@Stowoney idk I found it on unholy websites
Stop asking if you can, and start asking if you should.
Fax
@Egg T oh okay
He should, for the CONTENT
In this case, he really shouldn't have, but he did. Respect.
r/im14andthisisdeep
On the roof levels, you technically don't have to remove the pots, as YOU didn't place them, and there'd be no symmetry from you anyways
Yes But No symtrey
At all
i was expecting more like "you can't have the same plant in the row vertically" this is overkill
That's the challenge
I thought the same
@@stefperb9531 he thought you could have columns but not rows
ROHAN MII ROHAN MII ROHAN MII
This was more interesting atleast
Me: Of course it's possible
Me later: *realizes pots count*
Also me: Oh God no...
That means its *IMPOSSIBLE*
Unless you just dont care and move on
He stills beat it
Shovel:
*NOW THIS LOOKS LIKE A JOB FOR ME*
And to Lily Pads...
@@elfabrip funny
imagine someone actually playing like this and they see this video and I'd like "dang never thought of making my stuff symmetrical"
FBI OPEN UP
Nope
@@ballistic2247 was that supposed to be funny?
man would be given life imprisonment 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I’m more impressed that he didn’t just give up when he got to the roof levels. He simply improvised and made it happen good job 👍
After 3-4 no One can stop him
The roof is God's punishment for playing pvz without symmetry
I would like this comment but then the 69 would change to 70
Update: funny is no more liked
Update the sequel: yeah, i was an idiot thinking it was funny
Playing PvZ without symmetry is like watching only cursed images
@@bobakakorb4822 hilarious and original
@@HardClayConsumer agreed
@@bobakakorb4822
_HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_ _HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_ _HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_ _HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_
_HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_ _HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_
_HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_ _HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_
_HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_ _HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_
_HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_ _HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_
_HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_ _HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL!_
Column like you see ‘em would be the bane of this challenge
Don't forget seeing stars
@@_-Lx-_ Well that Star is asymmetrical, which always really bothered me
Seeing stars would be impossible because asymmetrical still counts
@@0000-i1z what counts as symetrical in this challenge?
Imagine if it was the story minigame of rooftop instead of the chomper one (forgot what it's called)
Alternative Title: Is it possible to beat pvz while making my eyes bleed
Our
*Communism sounds*
*†our†*
@@ced6079 Comic Snas
@overpowerDSky シ those are crosses *†*
fun fact! I started playing recently, and I used the "remove all pots except for one lane" strategy thanks to you. it was actually about as easy as the video says!
i used that strategy too!
i have a skinless corpse in my basement!
Hey guys, glad to see the replies to this comment are all perfectly normal! Keep it up!
i dont care about him using a "scummy save trick" I feel his pain in every retry he had to do
Ikr? People who get mad at youtubers for using "cheap tricks" should try doing it themselves
ikr. It takes so much effort just to get lucky, it js ridiculous...
Oh hi@@jatloe
@@balbar_b owo hi
I would’ve stated that I could use save states before I even started
“Welcome to hell, why are you here?”
“I played Plants vs zombies without symmetry.”
“Hello god? Yeah, it’s him.”
You deserve likes
" you can have my job"
Lmfao-
That’s a religion, hell does not exist.
@@leumleum7714 yeah and you’re not one to say that
Everyone has different religions and has the right to believe in them.
1:31 The small text that immediately dissapiers reads:
"No idea why my Peashooter was on the Sunflower lane let alone why that ended up being my winning attempt..."
@Mïçhãēł Hûäńg same until now
You are a hero
Thanks bro
Take 1 anti cringe sheild for THEM videos
dissapiers
Fun fact.
Night roof levels were planned to be in pvz.
The pain lol.
💀
That probably means nighttime roof plants we're scrapped too. I mean how the hell are you gonna use Fume-Shroom on the roof
@@KiiBon Coffee Bean
@@romanpattysstuff Yeah but the roof is slanted ,it wouldn't do any damage unless its planted on the top bringing it closer to the zombies
@@Vamptre actually, unlike most non-catapult plants, Fume-shroom can pierce through the roof slope. So, it's really helpful on the roof against groups of zombies and cheaper than melon-pults even with coffee bean (even though melon-pult is better)
These challenges could be so easy if your character just remembered to close and lock their doors
Edit: for those who don’t know, there are chimney roofs you can get. Boom, please stop telling me about roof levels
Yeah.. just lock the doors and stay still if you make no noise zombies wont notice
@@hagonistheman7880 they hold doors, they don’t unlock ‘em
@@hagonistheman7880 you’re right
@@hagonistheman7880 plot twist: they steal the back door and run
And lock your chimney too?
If Crazy Dave was Crazy Dead, he'd be rolling around in his Crazy Grave from how crazy this is. Crazily.
2/10 idk wtf i just read
that's very crazy of you.
a comment just as crazy as this challenge
That's fucking crazy man. Are you crazy?
Bruh craziest crazy I've ever seen!
Now that's crazy.
Alternative title: PvZ played by a Psycopath
123th like
142th like
176th like
LOL
More like a masochist.
I really like how you use the thunder at the end of 4-10 to foreshadow the roof levels suffering
I don't think this challenge has ever been even attempted before, let alone beaten.
Putting up with the lack of symmetry is probably the hardest part.
Bc this doesn't really look like a challenge
I really dont get what he was trying to do in the first place
@@darianclark3980 he can't have two of the same plant in two columns.
Lily pads And flower pots count.
@100 percent i dont get what you mean by that but
o
k
@@darianclark3980 hmmm, pointless challenges to do in a game to make it more difficult, sounds familiar. Oh i know! Pokemon nuzlockes!
@@sykerblade5353 I never said this was a pointless challenge to begin with.
Dont know why your being hostile n hating on Pokemon on a Plants vs Zombies video
This an interesting challenge.
I hate every moment of it, but it's interesting.
Sakamoto
@@LemonnNote Sakamoto~san
same
i read it in his voice smh
@@finch3010 Sakamoto-sand
If all of my plants aren’t symmetrical by the end of a level, I will scream out loud.
I relate to this on a spiritual level
dont play plants vs zombies 2 then you'll beat the level before you can make a symmetrical defense
same LOL when my defense isn't symmetrical i get so triggerd
same
Same
*Plants vs Zombies has become my go-to escape when I need a break from reality*
NOBODY CARES!!!!!!!!!
I beat the roof level easy on this challenge. All you have to do is turn on the fireplace.
Underrated comment
@@jheraldroblesmatthew ekhm
WOAH REAL?! HOW DO YOU DO THAT?!?!?! 😱😱😱
@@smfh_myhead you just turn it on duh.
@@justamicrowave5297
i cant find it 😭😭😭
very sad 😳😬
Shuyguymask with lawn mowers: USE THEM ALL!!! Me with lawn mowers: I protect them like the infinity stones
lmao same
@overpowerDSky シ you should protect them to get more cash after winning
@overpowerDSky シ stereotypes
me when i play it as a kid:
@overpowerDSky シ you need cash if you're gonna 100% the game
Adventure without sun flowers: Who are you?
Adventure with no symmetry: I'm you, but stronger
Well yes but no
Harder*
@@lol-yz2kd more luck based as well
@@mujtabaomar880 wdym about "well yes but no" anyway?
@@remyhavoc4463 yes because it's stronger but no because it's different
16:08 - absolute perfection
Not gonna lie, that transition between fog and roof was *CLEAN*
Unlike their roof, which doesn’t have cleaners
Ikr that was accurate
Pfp
Agreed, Nnice shyguy
He had a vision before disaster struck
It's amazing that this game is 11 years old and you can still invent new things in it !
Its gold or copper depends on how much you like symmetry
Just like minecraft
@@prinzbrezinaxiv5805 But, Minecraft is still updating. When Plants vs Zombies is not updated anymore.
COUF COUF COUF MINCRAFT COUF COUF COUF
@@ionnryx yeah but at least plz 2 is still going strong
Breaking news: one of Bowser's troops decides to torture itself for people's entertainment.
“It pays about 9 cents a year, but it’s better than what my checks were when I was working for bowser” Local shy guy says.
Bowser Comments ‘I had nothing to do with this’
For a reward of free toast
Everyone gangsta till SGM says he didn't know about the Mario series around the time this video was posted
WTF...
the hard part isn't the extra difficulty that comes with the challenge, it's actually the mental pain from being unable to use symmetrical defenses
You know things are gonna get serious when you start playing calamity music.
Had the same feeling in this and the 2 seed slots vid
Say goodbye for landlords
Should have seen that coming
9:31 that squash didn't even try, he knew it was already game over.
Honestly surprised at the lack of cattail use in this challenge
ikr
Y'know what? Zomboss is actually a pretty nice person. He went easy on you after feeling bad about how much you suffered through this challenge.
He's not a nice person... He's a nice zombie.
I’m sure he’s actually a pretty alright dude.
He’s just got his head in the wrong place.
Plant-based brain substitutes are just as good.
69th like, oh yea. Lol
everybody gangsta till the zombies get on the roof
Hi,how are ya?
And 3-10
Everybody gangsta till the zomboss robot breaks the roof
5:41
Oh, he's gonna get eaten by the chompe-
Dancing Zombie: We're no strangers to love
Literally what I, and probably ShyGuyMask were thinking
You know the rules and so do I
@@No-yt9iv
*SAY GOODBYE*
@@DJ_ULTRAVIOLET Plot armor boiii
Get rick rolled
That zombie at 5:11 caused me physical pain. I simply cannot imagine the pain of tediously going through that level, only to get screwed at the end
by a backup dancer💀
This man is literally the definition of insanity
Edit: Oh sorry I think I said this wrong
I meant to say *this man is beyond the definition of insanity*
yes
I agree
Yep
yes
Is he doing the exact same thing repeatedly expecting something different though?
If he were doing something like Shiny hunting he'd be insane.
Edit: he's gotten to the Roof, now he's insane.
Everybody gangsta till the conveyor belt levels are actually relevant in a PVZ challenge.
Literally everyone: No, this Is not how you're supposed to play the game
The zombies: this isn't how you play the game?
18:49 i love how the RNG spawned a 3x3 group of zombies
ja
To be honest, I have a deeper respect for starfruit now.
bruh 1
bruh 2
Bruh 3
Bruh 4
Bruh 6
Crazy Dave: **Confused Webi Wabo**
agreed
Wabi wabo
Wabi wabo
Wabi webo wabo-bo weba wabi?
*ROCK N ROLL!!*
Doctor: Don’t worry, unsymmetrical PvZ can’t hurt you, it’s not real
Unsymmetrical PvZ:
Well guess what doctor? IT'S VERY REAL, AND IT VERY MUCH IS HURTING ME!
@UN Owen Welp, may as well test my grammar skills.
1. It is "I'm," an abbreviation of "I am."
2. It is spelled "gonna," though in the case of essays and such "going to" is a much better phrase.
3. It is "you."
4. It is "off," not "of." Of is used to show ownership if the word is placed between the object in question and the owner, but it also has other uses, such as showing how many of something there is.
5. It is "with," not "width." Width is a measurement to show how wide something is, usually being the shorter measurement in a 3-dimensional object, the other three measurements being length and height.
6. It is "comment." A comet is a rock found in space, and is distinguishable from a meteorite.
7. It is "you're," an abbreviation of "you are."
8. "An" is only used if the proceeding word starts with a vowel letter, vowels being a group of letters composed of a, e, i, o, and u. "A" is the correct phrase for you to use, as it is used when the following word starts with a consonant, consonants being all letters outside of vowels.
9. Once again, it is "you."
10. It is "know." No is a term used to decline an offering or demand.
11. You are to use a period, not a semicolon. Semicolons are only to be used if a sentence is incomplete or too short, and are very situational in terms of grammar.
@@mlgiyel3021 It hurts my eyes to read all of that...
@@Schrodingers_kid Honestly I feel the same but with my fingers
@UN Owen I will neither agree nor disagree with that statement.
15:58 I like how you left the menu cuts in. It's like the Zombies are laughing at you. It's great editing!
20:23 The zombie from the bottom: I will steal his money.
"These early levels are so easy. Or are they?"
*Vsauce music plays*
10 seconds later: and that’s how tacos were invented
DONT LIKE ANYMONE ITS A NICE AMOUNT OF LIKES
@@Coaltheore are you sure? Because I just liked ;)
no more likes good enough for us and the person
GOD DAMNIT SOME ONE LIKED
Me reading the title: "I'm going to need two knifes, one for me and one for you"
*knives
And we battle babyy
Just use one
@@longtranthanh8544 bruh BE and AE
@@ama7031 ?
12:40
"Suddenly, Conehead zombies are top tier threats"
idk why but i find this line so funny
Such an accursed thing shall be destroyed before the greater man discovers this? How dare you allow yourself, a lawful person, to produce such a vile thing?
I don't know. Some people are just crazy
Why
Sorry what does that mean sir
@@XxBLAIZEx well that means
Why tf did you did that?
Ikr, this is soo mean of him to do this to us
First I thought it sounds rather easy, than I'm very quickly proven wrong by the second level, the pool levels make me understand that it's even more of a challenge, and than you get to the roof top which I would give real quickly, I'm amazed it's even possible.
Than Zomboss, I thought it's literally impossible but you give us such a plot twist, I was surprised again.
This video was a unexpected roller coster!
Lol, sgm also used this in the two plants challenge. And I used that to cheese Zomboss when I first beat him. It is so funny XD
It's only hard because he's making it artificially hard by thinking of the play space as rows only, and not as a grid.
@@themichaelconnor42
Yeah... that's the whole point of the challenge, artificially making something more difficult to see if you can achieve something even if it were harder than intended.
What's your point?
@@topek8693 No, my point is he's only thinking of one form of symmetry (vertical), making sure that the lines can't be reflected across the x-axis. But only focusing on the vertical rows completely ignores the horizontal columns...if he were to view the board as a grid, it would allow for vertical and horizontal symmetry, along with rotational and radial symmetry. It would be a much easier "challenge", but it would create more interesting gameplay and patterns.
@@themichaelconnor42
Oh, I see now, but this challenge is about not being symmetrical so wouldn't considering other axis make it harder, especially pool stages?
Maybe it could make it easier for stages with all the rows but I can't say for sure untill I see it I suppose.
Only OG's knows the thumbnail was "Thumbnail wip"
yes
i saw it in the last sec (seding to a disc friend), srr for bad english
Yes
I am an og amongst men
ikr
Watching this was like one of those "99% can't beat" mobile game ads where the solution is literally being given to whoever is playing and yet not a single correct move is made and you're just sitting there wanting to break the screen you're watching on because they're just fucking teasing you into downloading the game and showing them how easy it is and how fucking braindead they are.
Alternate title: pvz but perfectionists hate it
You mean, pvz but literally anyone that appreciates symmetry despises it.
you mean, pvz but its physically, emotionally, mentally hard to watch
Actually seeing plants all in one row is really satisfying. No perfectionism problems here.
I would shovel a cob cannom for the symmetry
@@colneypartei6821
I would straight up shovel very effective, expensive parts of my defense because they ruin the symmetry.
You know this challenge is extremely difficult when even the first beginning levels are a nightmare.
2 seed slot: *3-4 intensifies*
ShyGuyMask: "I'm not a PvZ channel!"
Also ShyGuyMask:
well it HAS been like 5 months
"I haven't made a nintendo game in over a year!"
@@Gamebuilder2000 more like a year
yeah, if you like a game all your channel is about that game :)
_logec_
@@parasito9130 jokes exist
*logic*
Absolutely no one would have faulted you for not counting lily pads or pots as "plants," but you added the extra burden anyway. I am amazed.
According to the PVZ almanac the flower pot is a plant lmao
Haven't watched the video and i know the answer is no, your eyes wont be able to keep themselves open while seeing such heresy
Yeah...I think I am gonna skip this one chief
Actualy the answer is yes
@@eth_wheel8085
no u
@@eth_wheel8085 as a Gen Z myself I feel that I am mandated to utter the words...
r/woOoOooOsh XDDDDDDDD
Not gonna edit my comment, but i got hearted by the man, the mith, the legend, shyguymask himself
epic
Psychology: So, tell me where your anxiety began
Me: well...
I wasn't expecting for each lane to need completely different plants, but it definitely makes for a more interesting challenge.
da
I know that horizontal rows are much harder and make for a better challenge, but technically as long as one plant isn't in the same vertical column it's never symmetrical anyway
I realize that the "starfriut better than gloom-shrimp?" video was using footage from this challenge. Not that surprising
My favorite
@ARTEM DORDZHIEV I'm not changing it
@@antnewman8688 g l o o m s h r i m p.
@@antnewman8688 even better...
h y p n o s h r i m p
@@maulicious. look out for
d o o m s h r i m p
Short answer:
Yes, but dont
Long answer?
@@turkia6148 .... the video
Short answer v2:
Yes, but my ocd forbids it
Long answer:
It is possible, but you should not do it.
@@angrypvz1646 short answer v3:
Yes, my adhd automatically makes me anyway
Shyguymask: I fear no man, but that thing
*points at roof*
it scares me
69th like
One shudders to think of what thoughts lie behind that mask....
@@casiooooooo Dreams of Cronic and sustained cruetly.
@@lonkzelda7871 pyrovision: do you believe in magic
I wanted to cry through the whole video, after all great job on handeling this nightmare of a challenge.
Shyguymask, I want to thank for the amount of effort you put in your videos for your fanbase. We appreciate you, and the work that you put in - Chuck :)
Me: **is about to win a level**
My little brother: **digs up a plant**
Wave: **ends**
Me: "I've won, but at what cost?"
oof
wat
But it’s a single player game
@@PenguinULT POV: your on xbox
@@PenguinULT on consle versions of the game it can be 2 player so if hes talking about consle and not pc it makes sense
During the fog levels, I thought “there hasn’t been enough suffering in this video yet”
And then I remembered roof levels were next
11:00 that section was beautifully synced with the fog music
This man really went against the unwritten rule of PVZ
the roof's curve is the most wackiest thing in the game. Change my mind.
I think the roof’s curve changes the gameplay and makes you use the new plants you get rather than the peashooter and similar plants
@@shutdown4548 yea starfruit's backwards shot looks so disproportionate when it doesnt hit a zombie
Wackiest thing in the game is the tree of wisdom moustache/glasses commands. (wacky in a good way)
@@DraftyDaftyHubertOHare Tree?
@@shutdown4548 do u play Mobile? Cuz mobile doesn’t have the tree
19:55 oh yeah I remember this trick, you also used that in your 2 seed slots video!
I use it every time I fight zomboss
Well it's more of a requirement in this challenge than a trick
It hurt me cuz it was like I wasted years fighting him normally
i saw it on hitori dakeno 9 years ago
@@autismandgaming4532 me ti
I love how he's teaching us to do it, like anyone else is ever going to try this challenge
there are crazy enough people that would attempt to do this monsterous thing, I know it myself
4:34 Perfect sync
@@nicktmv9750 loonboon
@-Cryowo- *rule 34?*
Rhythm Heaven: Zombified Edition
Perfect likes, 300 likes
DONT LIKE IT ANYMORE ITS 420
Holy shit. I can’t believe you actually cleared all of the roof levels. Nice work SGM!
you are asking "how" when you should be asking "why"
Not really. People do the craziest things on this place.
He’s tried beating every mini game and level without sunflowers, this is just the surface of the random stuff
Whe where so preocupied on thinking and asking if we could that we did not stop for a moment and asked our selfs if we should
You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could, you didn't stop to think if you should.
Comentsection: did you do it
Shyguymask: yes
Comentsection: what did it cost
Shyguymask: the symmetry
And his composure
And his sanity
I'm pretty sure he already lost that on a previous challenge
2 seed slots
@@janblystadandersson1285 3-4 when he started laughing I knew he lost it
I think SGM went nuts. 3-4 from 2 seed slots challenge made him lose all of his mental health. And where did it bring him? To not doing symmetrical defenses. Are u ok SGM?
He has -oo sanity now
The empty lanes are symmetrically empty... you lost.
Challenge Ends at 1-1
1-1 is always symmetrical because it’s non-symmetrical lane is in the middle, retroactively making it symmetrical
sup bio
Better than some few seconds of video
It's content better than some 7 sec vid haha
If you want to do this without save scumming, you can change it to “without plant symmetry”. That way flower pots don’t count, because they’re not plants, they’re inanimate objects
they are plants according to the almanac
There is a pretty huge difference between "no symmetry" and "not planting the same plant in more than one lane"
Yeah.
That is what i thought.
i thought he's just gonna jumble out plants
@@thememeguy2135 I thought he would put like a sunflower on a row with Pea shooters so it technically wouldn’t be symmetrical.
@Fanjanhong * It’s not even horizontal, from the players perspective it is, but from the actual main characters perspective it’s vertical.
5-1 physically stressed me out and I wasn't even the one playing it
Same
Shyguymask to himself: Pain, all I know is pain
Teen Titans Go Reference
Pain bot
4:34 it's so satisfying how the music matches with the *BONKING*
I remember when the Dancing zombie was Michael Jackson😂
I didn't knew it changed, must be because I haven't actualized it since more than 9 years at least
@@brunosarramide572 popcap may have changed it after his death idk
@@markgoldbridge3893 You mean owned by EA
@@markgoldbridge3893 Popcap games is not dead because of Plants vs Zombies
@@k9hunterkiller99 I meant after Micheal Jackson’s death popcap changed it maybe because of an unknown reason
Me when you said that lilypads counted: it's ok anyways
Me when I remember it means pots also apply: "O H N O"
I think this guy is tired of hearing the "hahhahaha" when you start to play a pbz game lol
I'd expect no symmetry to just be, you know, an asymmetrical defense.
This is more of just "none of the same plant in more than one lane" with a consequence of no symmetry