As long as this build has been going and as much as I would like to see it completed personally I think painting it would 'cheapen' the work you've put into the guitar, I would be less bothered if you used power tools to finish it tbh.
I agree. I'd rather see purfling or none at all and swerve painting it regardless of historical precedence. Seems a shame to skip hand tool processes in the hand tool only build though.
I'm honestly surprised that when the little stripes were too delicate to burn, Ben didn't take that as an excuse to burn the rest of the top to achieve a contrast xD
You know I’m behind all your builds Ben, but there’s something about this hand tool build that’s just fascinating. Can’t wait to get to down to the museum in 2023.
I will agree with the comments from last episode and say these videos have a very relaxing vibe to them. It may be the smooth voice, the british accent, the wood working noises (assuming no power tools are being used) and even just the fact of slowly watching something tangible being made out of a couple raw materials has a charm to it.
Honestly, I've been looking forward to those inlays since you first drew them out. I definitely understand the hesitation, especially as long as this build has drawn out, but I don't think it would be quite right without them. Also, I love your videos and look forward to the build videos the very most, been watching you and your imagination at work for years now and have loved every minute of it. Don't settle for an instrument that is less than Ben Crowe level of awesome! And thank you for taking us along to see your inspiration at that museum way back then. You definitely added a place I need to go see to my bucket list. (Side note: my opinion only, but I think that rosette would look even better with a line of copper to accent it. May not be correct as much to the baroque styling, but it would absolutely be very you, and that is what we are really all here to see. )
There's one more option - burn mahogany and get black material whick could be used as inlay. As ebony dust have been used for furniture making, or some fancy Stradivarious violins.
The stain only penetrating part way through the rosette pieces actually ended up making an interesting pattern of dark outlines with lighter areas. Cool effect.
Let's say you decide to inlay the edges the same as the top. You could make your squares, dye them, and then glue them into wee planks of some convenient width, say one inch. Then saw slices off the end of your planking in the appropriate thickness. You then could inlay the edges in one-inch increments.
Morning Ben... I love the way you keep looking towards the heavens....... :) no help up there dude.. if we are stressing then dont know how u cope dude... :) Davey P.
When you say paint... you mean. Burn some of the wood and dissolve the ashes in some liquid which you then paint on with a brush made from some fine hairs of wood using a painstakingly crafted crinkly edge jig thing... or some other mind bending tomfoolery. Whatever you do it will be intricate and beautiful and we cant wait to see. That rosette was simply magic.
Every time an episode of this pops up I’m excited to watch then gutted when they finish because I’ve got wait for the next one🎉😢 Can’t wait to see it completed
Let fatigue from rosette gone and then you will want to make the inlay :). Nice job ! It looks great. I was thinking that clear veneer between each pieces will help but non need finally
Awesome as always Ben. Personally see painting as a cop out even though it would be period correct. On a different note, have you ever seen steaming in a bag. It contains the heat and moisture longer and you can position it into shape while still hot, allowing it to cool slower and thus retain the shape with a lot less stress.
Tip for using scalpels: since you only use the tip, wrap some masking tape around the top half of the blade. This way you can hold it like a pen without cutting yourself.
Ben, if I recall, you started out making violins? I think it would be really cool to see that process on your channel. Maybe give it a cool twist like modern styling and electric pickups.
I remember when we suggested a simple, basic hand tool build, and then it became an epic odyssey of epicnicity. Someday you will build a simple offset T-style with a humbucker at the neck and a P-90 at the cut t-style bridge with compensated brass saddles.
Ben You never cease to Amaze Me.. Iam on my 7th scratch built acustic guitar build. I truly get so much inspiration from watching you, That rosette you just made is subtle but Awesome. Thank you again, 👍🙏🎸🎹🎼👨🏻🦯👨🏻🦯
Ben, these videos are absolutely fantastic to watch. I look forward to them suddenly popping up on my feed at sporadic intervals, and it will be a bittersweet moment when this build is eventually completed.
I have made a simple cutting trammel for rosettes using a popsicle sticka brad for the center and an exact -o point , I think it’s got it from the cumpiano book from the 80’s
I’ve made one time use hobby knifes and scalpel knife with wooden dowels. I secured the blades to the dowels by wrapping thread around them and saturating the threads in CA glue. I’ll have to try sawdust next time.
Literally 20 ads in 26 minutes. Can't understand this. That being said, you're still one of the best luthier, and one of the kindest man over there, sir. Don't want to give up with youtube. But i will, for sure...
An alternative way of securing scalpel blade to compass would be to bind it with sewing cotton and the soak with super glue, it makes for a very strong bond
They sell adjustable hole saws with knifes at the end, I use those to make large holes. They attach to your hand powered saw. (I would add a link but UA-cam just deletes the comments with product links)
I love your work. I love that you took a bit of wood and instead of just sticking it in turned it into a hundred tiny bits and then stuck it in. But have you ever seen light at the end of a tunnel and not ordered up more tunnel? Do you never look at the hellish mountain path or the crisp new valley tarmac and not pick the mountain? I wish I had your head rather than my lazy one.
There was a time when man only saw electricity as a fascinating horror in the sky.. but they made great instruments back then. a purist like an old-school woodwright may not like it, but on the other hand the electric tools allow for some satisfying techniques and results, as well as speeding up production, and giving production level products a sense of consistency.. surely a requirement for cutting Les Paul bodies all day, Gibson sort of needs those to look similar I would imagine. push the button and just-walk-away.
@@CrimsonCustomGuitars Well, I'm glad that you do it. If I try to make an instrument some day, I'll ask myself "what would Ben do"? Then I'll remember myself that I'm not Ben, and simplify it to my level. I mean, it's great that you do it in hard mode because we see that it's possible, but also get a clue on how hard it will be. So, thanks. Even if I never build an instrument, I've learned a lot from you, and this applies not only to luthiery or wood work.
common don't paint those lines in! but, you can make some edge binding similar to what they do for arabic oud's, basically sqaures in two alternating colors about 1.5 mm deep around the soundboard. usually the log glued up to 3 or 4 blocks, installing them is easy. BTW look into some bleaching chemicals for the mahogany, I don't know how it will work with that wood but I think the build will be well served if you can muster up a lighter color for the purflings.
Ben, Modern stain? You could have crushed the outer walnut hulls and soaked them in alcohol, strained it and used it for a stain. If the English walnut hulls are not as dark as our American Black Walnut, you could roast them befor crushing. My family did this up in the hills of Kentucky during the depression in the "old days". Of course they also made the alcohol.
I can't say I'm on board with painting the design on...... its just not the same as pinstriping an electric over an already painted surface. I think it really needs to be inlaid personally, but I absolutely doubt anyone expects you do the end grain process you did with the rosette lol
Ben, Honestly if you think about it's construction and if you want it to look appropriately old w/o relicing it, I personally think that using Black and maybe a few primary colors to "Paint" your designs on the guitar would make it look stylistically and age appropriate. It's not like you're creating a Martin Backpacker blinged out in M. O. P. !! Right ?? In my mind I see it like a Higher End " Gene Autry" Travel guitar !! Very nice, very popular and most importantly, very attainable !! Just MHO ... P. S. Don't forget pretending that it's the 1930's- 1940's or so !!
You sometimes use a 45 degree slot on the edge of a neck then fill with a contrasting wood so it is seen on the front and side (of the neck as fret markers), how about doing that around the body/side joint ?
also might there be a matching custom travel sized case built for this instrument? i bet u could convince Adam Savage to make something, he loves to construct custom cases and boxes for things!
Hi, I know that down the line this is meant to be available as a kit, will you be making the plans available so us garden stead luthiers can source our own tone woods?
I hope that wasn't the biltong chisel! 😱 If you continue the mosaic style pieces, you could probably do some very wacky chequerboard/dogtooth patterns etc with plain+stained pieces. 🤔
As long as this build has been going and as much as I would like to see it completed personally I think painting it would 'cheapen' the work you've put into the guitar, I would be less bothered if you used power tools to finish it tbh.
I agree. I'd rather see purfling or none at all and swerve painting it regardless of historical precedence. Seems a shame to skip hand tool processes in the hand tool only build though.
I'm honestly surprised that when the little stripes were too delicate to burn, Ben didn't take that as an excuse to burn the rest of the top to achieve a contrast xD
You know I’m behind all your builds Ben, but there’s something about this hand tool build that’s just fascinating. Can’t wait to get to down to the museum in 2023.
After watching the rosette installation, I've determined you're a much more patient man than I am, sir 😂
I will agree with the comments from last episode and say these videos have a very relaxing vibe to them. It may be the smooth voice, the british accent, the wood working noises (assuming no power tools are being used) and even just the fact of slowly watching something tangible being made out of a couple raw materials has a charm to it.
Usually I watch tedious tasks and am thankful I don’t have to do that. I watch Ben cut hundreds of tiny pieces and glue them in and I want to try it.
Honestly, I've been looking forward to those inlays since you first drew them out. I definitely understand the hesitation, especially as long as this build has drawn out, but I don't think it would be quite right without them. Also, I love your videos and look forward to the build videos the very most, been watching you and your imagination at work for years now and have loved every minute of it. Don't settle for an instrument that is less than Ben Crowe level of awesome! And thank you for taking us along to see your inspiration at that museum way back then. You definitely added a place I need to go see to my bucket list. (Side note: my opinion only, but I think that rosette would look even better with a line of copper to accent it. May not be correct as much to the baroque styling, but it would absolutely be very you, and that is what we are really all here to see. )
There's one more option - burn mahogany and get black material whick could be used as inlay. As ebony dust have been used for furniture making, or some fancy Stradivarious violins.
The stain only penetrating part way through the rosette pieces actually ended up making an interesting pattern of dark outlines with lighter areas. Cool effect.
Ben your personality makes it impossible for you to stress me out love all your videos and all your chaotic emotions and excitements your my peace
Let's say you decide to inlay the edges the same as the top. You could make your squares, dye them, and then glue them into wee planks of some convenient width, say one inch. Then saw slices off the end of your planking in the appropriate thickness. You then could inlay the edges in one-inch increments.
The rosette turned out beautifully
I was stressed out by watching last week's episode. Please don't stop. Only by pushing the boundaries to we step forward. Or something to that affect.
That Rosette is the single most patient and epic thing I think you’ve done Ben I was mesmerised by the intricacy superb sir.
Morning Ben... I love the way you keep looking towards the heavens....... :) no help up there dude.. if we are stressing then dont know how u cope dude... :) Davey P.
Sped-up hammering sounds are so satisfying 😎
Bun, I think you should do both, inlay and paint. It would add a dimension of classic violin and guitar building.
Beautiful. Cut and inlay the purfling, because it’s more difficult. 😆
When you say paint... you mean. Burn some of the wood and dissolve the ashes in some liquid which you then paint on with a brush made from some fine hairs of wood using a painstakingly crafted crinkly edge jig thing... or some other mind bending tomfoolery. Whatever you do it will be intricate and beautiful and we cant wait to see. That rosette was simply magic.
Try binding the scalpel blade with nylon sewing thread or fishing line across its full length, then saturate it in superglue
That bench vise is the MVP of this build
I’ve heard that Ben really likes this guitar…
So he put a ring on it!
Inlaid per fling is the way violin makers usually do it. I really like it that way and most fine violins are made that way.
That big chisel is very slick!
Every time an episode of this pops up I’m excited to watch then gutted when they finish because I’ve got wait for the next one🎉😢 Can’t wait to see it completed
Let fatigue from rosette gone and then you will want to make the inlay :). Nice job ! It looks great. I was thinking that clear veneer between each pieces will help but non need finally
Awesome as always Ben. Personally see painting as a cop out even though it would be period correct. On a different note, have you ever seen steaming in a bag. It contains the heat and moisture longer and you can position it into shape while still hot, allowing it to cool slower and thus retain the shape with a lot less stress.
Camera and editing work on this video has a different feel to it, like more creative chances were being taken. I like it.
I just love this serie, can`t wait for the end result !
Tip for using scalpels: since you only use the tip, wrap some masking tape around the top half of the blade. This way you can hold it like a pen without cutting yourself.
Very effective even though the stain didn’t penetrate. Excellent stuff as always. Cheers Dave
Top marks for the music in this one!
Ben, if I recall, you started out making violins? I think it would be really cool to see that process on your channel. Maybe give it a cool twist like modern styling and electric pickups.
Nice to see this on the bench again!
I remember when we suggested a simple, basic hand tool build, and then it became an epic odyssey of epicnicity. Someday you will build a simple offset T-style with a humbucker at the neck and a P-90 at the cut t-style bridge with compensated brass saddles.
Ben You never cease to Amaze Me.. Iam on my 7th scratch built acustic guitar build. I truly get so much inspiration from watching you, That rosette you just made is subtle but Awesome. Thank you again, 👍🙏🎸🎹🎼👨🏻🦯👨🏻🦯
Ben, these videos are absolutely fantastic to watch. I look forward to them suddenly popping up on my feed at sporadic intervals, and it will be a bittersweet moment when this build is eventually completed.
All hail the chiselmeister! I never tire of watching the delicate work you do with chisels.
Love the rosette and the compass scalpel!
For the black staining, try India ink next time. It's much more watery and penetrates wood deeper than stain. And dries faster too.
I was missing this kind of amazing talented building videos series... whishing to see more! Thanks for the content!
Really enjoyed this episode. And I now want one of those block planes. I might have to hint to the wife!!
I have made a simple cutting trammel for rosettes using a popsicle sticka brad for the center and an exact -o point , I think it’s got it from the cumpiano book from the 80’s
I’m happy to see this back lol!! All the breaking down guitars for raffles is fun however I need to see this finished.
You are more Paul Sellers than Paul Sellers. I absolutely love this series.
It is calming listening to your videos while building a guitar
HAts off Ben frankly I was not so convinced of the Rosette idea but it comes out absolutely subtil and beautiful
I’ve made one time use hobby knifes and scalpel knife with wooden dowels. I secured the blades to the dowels by wrapping thread around them and saturating the threads in CA glue. I’ll have to try sawdust next time.
I love the lateral thinking!
Ben. Very Nice work. Just Do what Comes First.
Just admit it Ben that every build is too much fun to finish in just one day.
Fairly sure it started as a 3 day build, happy to watch it done right rather than rushed though.
Another fabulous episode! I can't wait to build one of your kits for this!
a little chisel :D like the knife of Crocodile Dundee: this is a chisel .. ah ah ... THAT'S A CHISEL !!!!
Alternating black and maple would have looked awesome as well.
That looks fantastic! I look forward to seeing what you come up with for the rest of it!
You could always paint it silver 😉
Madness. I love watching this build.
This is ASMR for luthiers
For me your videos are best when I'm in the Office and need to sign a bunch of papers :)
Literally 20 ads in 26 minutes. Can't understand this. That being said, you're still one of the best luthier, and one of the kindest man over there, sir. Don't want to give up with youtube. But i will, for sure...
I'm currently planning my first acoustic build, this is great inspiration!
Nice Avo 8 MkIII in the background shot :)
Forgive me if it has already be suggested but could you not use hot sand to burn the inlays. Really enjoying the build. Pete.
Purfling, definately purfling.
I am curious to see you paint them on.
I would like to see the crimson logo that is on Ben's head ant t-shirt carved into the sound hole like those old baroque designs
An alternative way of securing scalpel blade to compass would be to bind it with sewing cotton and the soak with super glue, it makes for a very strong bond
I've seen people use that method to fix hammers, sad it didn't occur to me. Cheers for the tip!
This is, by far, the craziest build… my favourite!!
probably i would drill and tap compass for 2 m3 bolts for proper future use with scalpel, would save some time and last few nerves
Great idea!
They sell adjustable hole saws with knifes at the end, I use those to make large holes. They attach to your hand powered saw.
(I would add a link but UA-cam just deletes the comments with product links)
My compass scalpel worked well for cutting a piece of spruce for a soundhole repair.
What about a no super glue build ?
Loving the show 😁👍🏼👍🏼
I love your work. I love that you took a bit of wood and instead of just sticking it in turned it into a hundred tiny bits and then stuck it in. But have you ever seen light at the end of a tunnel and not ordered up more tunnel? Do you never look at the hellish mountain path or the crisp new valley tarmac and not pick the mountain? I wish I had your head rather than my lazy one.
I have a habit of making things difficult just for the challenge of it, true.. I love your turn of phrase in this comment, you should write a novel!
Thank you! The tunnel metaphor was borrowed/stolen.
There was a time when man only saw electricity as a fascinating horror in the sky.. but they made great instruments back then. a purist like an old-school woodwright may not like it, but on the other hand the electric tools allow for some satisfying techniques and results, as well as speeding up production, and giving production level products a sense of consistency.. surely a requirement for cutting Les Paul bodies all day, Gibson sort of needs those to look similar I would imagine. push the button and just-walk-away.
I love watching this, a real craftsman at work is compelling. What did you mean about salt?
18:20 OMG, it's really a work for patient people.
Or people who back themselves in a corner by constantly pushing themselves a but further than sanity would normally expect 😆
@@CrimsonCustomGuitars Well, I'm glad that you do it. If I try to make an instrument some day, I'll ask myself "what would Ben do"? Then I'll remember myself that I'm not Ben, and simplify it to my level. I mean, it's great that you do it in hard mode because we see that it's possible, but also get a clue on how hard it will be. So, thanks. Even if I never build an instrument, I've learned a lot from you, and this applies not only to luthiery or wood work.
cool beans and awesome sauce.
“I apologize for stressing you guys out last week BURN IT” gets me every time lol
You are amazing and entertaining. Thank you.
You can only use salt if it has the Crimson guitar label on it (or triton in a "pinch").
common don't paint those lines in! but, you can make some edge binding similar to what they do for arabic oud's, basically sqaures in two alternating colors about 1.5 mm deep around the soundboard. usually the log glued up to 3 or 4 blocks, installing them is easy. BTW look into some bleaching chemicals for the mahogany, I don't know how it will work with that wood but I think the build will be well served if you can muster up a lighter color for the purflings.
Sweet!🤘
Ben, Modern stain? You could have crushed the outer walnut hulls and soaked them in alcohol, strained it and used it for a stain. If the English walnut hulls are not as dark as our American Black Walnut, you could roast them befor crushing. My family did this up in the hills of Kentucky during the depression in the "old days". Of course they also made the alcohol.
I can't say I'm on board with painting the design on...... its just not the same as pinstriping an electric over an already painted surface. I think it really needs to be inlaid personally, but I absolutely doubt anyone expects you do the end grain process you did with the rosette lol
Ben, Honestly if you think about it's construction and if you want it to look appropriately old w/o relicing it, I personally think that using Black and maybe a few primary colors to "Paint" your designs on the guitar would make it look stylistically and age appropriate. It's not like you're creating a Martin Backpacker blinged out in M. O. P. !! Right ?? In my mind I see it like a Higher End " Gene Autry" Travel guitar !! Very nice, very popular and most importantly, very attainable !! Just MHO ... P. S. Don't forget pretending that it's the 1930's- 1940's or so !!
You sometimes use a 45 degree slot on the edge of a neck then fill with a contrasting wood so it is seen on the front and side (of the neck as fret markers), how about doing that around the body/side joint ?
So when will the Compass Scalpel be available in the store?😆
also might there be a matching custom travel sized case built for this instrument? i bet u could convince Adam Savage to make something, he loves to construct custom cases and boxes for things!
Hi, I know that down the line this is meant to be available as a kit, will you be making the plans available so us garden stead luthiers can source our own tone woods?
Dude that rosette is spectacular
ear!like.professional content! 😇
Any plans for some sort of foldout lap rest for this?
I know this is hand tool build, but thoughts on pyrography for future finishes?
maybe use a s. iron to burn carve designs into top?
I really enjoyed watching you procrastinating and then you telling us that you were procrastinating... 🤣
Get Billy Gibbons to pinstripe it. Ultimate cool.
dividers with a cutter on one leg are actually a thing.
Hotrod it. Pinstripe it. Keep the baroque patterns but in a pinstriped style.
I hope that wasn't the biltong chisel! 😱
If you continue the mosaic style pieces, you could probably do some very wacky chequerboard/dogtooth patterns etc with plain+stained pieces. 🤔