@@cnnlt200 rear tires are losing grip due to hard braking (locking up the wheel) or giving a ton of throttle to spin it free Steering technique and weight placement are also important
I have a 400sm, they are fun and quite bulletproof as long as you stay on the basic maintenance. But, they are really heavy and underpowered, plus long distances anything over 150 miles a day is really taxing on the little thumper's and is uncomfortable. I work on motorcycles for a living and while it is a good solid motard, I would look into getting a Beta 450/520 or a KTM 500. Both are plated and can be converted to SM really easily. Only problem is the price.....but such is everything in life.
SMC419RR Mcinroe What are the Beta / KTM like day to day though? From what I've seen the DRZ is quite reliable as it isn't necessarily a race bike.. I've seen some bikes converted to road use but they're so highly strung that they need services every few dozen miles..
CBRsmithy Just from talking to a few other mechanics and a few people that ride Beta, A lot of people are liking them. I personally have not had a chance to work on one, but I do trust the people I talk to. KTM, a lot of people will still complain that KTM are junk, parts are hard to get, and the maintenance is a killer. KTM use very high quality parts in their bikes and yes, it can be costly to do maintenance on them. But a large bore bike like the EXC500 and RS520 are designed as dual sport motorcycles and the motors are built around the kind of style you would do during a long Dual sport race with a lot of Wide open areas. Now ringing the bikes neck constantly will wear down any motor faster, whether it be a single cylinder, V4, L-Twin, Inline 4 and so on. But maintenance should be a number one priority on your vehicle. You shouldn't rely on the fact the motor may be able to go another couple hours or hundred miles before a service. Yes, I have seen a few guys with CRF450R's converted over to motard and they have plates and lights and everything. The only problem with that compared to a DRZ is, Motocross bikes are designed to do Moto. The stator output stock is not reliable to put a full lighting system on. Also if you look at the gearing, they are way different in transmission and final gear ratio. A DRZ stock gearing is 15FT 41RT compared to a general stock moto bike with around 14FT and 49RT. The gearing is going to be great in tight corners and short straightaways. Also Moto bikes are designed to rev fast and have a very high output (HP and Torque) so the maintenance is going to be needed a lot more often.Plus getting 450's plated can be a bitch in some states. Although I absolutely love true supermoto bikes, In a daily commuter, they are not what I would like to ride everyday to work or do errands. So when making your decision, think about what you are going to use the bike for, if its just putting around town and going to work doing about 80 miles a day, The DRZ400SM is an excellent choice with a few minor mods you can kinda get that pig into a firebreather. If money isn't an issue, go with the KTM500 EXC and slap some 17's on that beast, adjust your suspension, get better brakes and enjoy smiling for the rest of your life. Finally, if you just want to shred around town and like to do regular upkeep on your bike, Convert a Japanese 450 over and shred til your days are done.
SMC419RR Mcinroe Amazing reply dude, thank you! It would be a hard choice to make I think, I'd definitely have to test ride the bikes and see what suits me usage the best. But you're right what you say, any bike should be maintained properly, but I too have seen road-legal CRF450's and the like in the UK, and the owners generally say they're amazing fun for a short weekend, then they're doing full services on them almost weekly.. For me, that kind of constant servicing would take away the fun factor of the bike somewhat. When I've been looking at bikes for sale, DRZ400's in good condition are around £3000, for the same money or a little bit more I can find something like a KTM 640 SM, which I'd definitely be interested in. There are road 'legal' SX's for the same money too, but I think one of those on the road would be pretty crazy!
You don't need a DRZ400SM to do this, you can get any 400/450/whatever dirt bike and put a set of sumo wheels on it. I've seen peeps using two-stroke bikes on the sumo courses and doing a kickass job of it. DRZ's are heavy, even the kicker/E models, but they do come from the factory kitted with the 17" wheels. I swear if Yamaha made a WR450X, I'd be ALL over that baby!!!
@@fatguyonalittlebike3336 Just spent a few days at the Tail of the Dragon last week. My friend had a DR650 with sump tires on it. They were great until it rained.
An observation from somebody who was into racing up to 125cc (& basically living on Honda's for my teens-twenties) back in the early to mid-80s; this generation has sorta grownup w/ the 4strokes. None of this seems correct without 2strokes is my initial reaction after consuming 15min of this footage. It's got a similar feeling as Indy500 racing does vs F1 to me.
how the hell is it possible for him to go hard braking on the front drift the tail on asphalt full of mud without crashing.. the last time i walk on mud, i slipped and fell..
Whats the difference between Husqvarna 501 supermoto, Yamaha YZF450, and the Aprilia svx550 versus lets say the Ducati Hypermotard, Aprilia Dorsoduro, MV Agusta Rivale 800. Are supermotos basically dirt bikes with mirrors and a license plate and those motards are like half motorcycle and half dirt bike?
I'd really like to know where do they get all that grip. I've been riding all afternoon like a maniac in the woods and i did lose grip more than once in the turns... I've also tried drifting like that - Which ended up highsiding. God dammit
NikkiDiamond Yeah That's what I am thinking, I guess keep practicing and don't be afraid to ask questions to more experienced riders. Try to keep up with the faster guys and you will eventually get better faster.
I'd love to try keeping up with the faster guys,but the fact is that i ride alone all the time haha None of my friends ride motorcycles. I'll keep going for it anyways,I couldn't see myself doing any other sport than off-roading/riding on a track
crazy how little these bikes with wide tires sink in. With Motocross tires you would literally need a periscope to see out of the ditches in that mud haha
in one hand there are dirt bikes with long suspensions and its proper long-diameter knobby tires meant to be ridden on muddy dirty terrain but have not-so-good top speed. in the other hand, there are bikes with short suspensions (lowering the center of gravity for better stability) sleek tires meant to be ridden on plain asphalt due to better adherence to it and also having high top speed. Two very distinctive scenarios and two specially designed bikes for each. Then you have a bikenstein meant for both scenarios.... The result is a bike that fails considerably in both situations, obviously. (for sure, i will never get it...)
That suspension is considerably harder than stock dirtbike suspension, and they usually run inverted front forks. Motards are surprisingly good handling. They are decent in dirt, too, only let down by the tyres.
nope, they use rmz450 crf450r yz450f etc. and make modifications for supermoto, most of the popular manafacturers don't sell a supermoto bike, but if they do they are basically just a mx bike with sm wheels and a few small adjustments
@@bruhroyale12123 Yes TV races AKA Manufacture sponsored are 4 stroke because of money. Everyone knows this. All local events and races where riders don't have mega sponsors are dominated by two strokes. Faster, lighter, and cheaper to rebuild and anyone can work on them, which means manufacturers lose money.
people usually say this about 2-stroke engines all of the time. 4-stroke has good sound, i know. i would know since i got a daytona anima 190cc on in my everyday transportation of choice. there's a guy in the area driving a dual sport 2-stroke down the road, i felt nostalgia to smell the exhaust of the 2-stroke and the high rpm, buzzing down the street.
supermoto= people who can`t make up their mind which bike they want to ride.street or mx.then they show up in muddy conditions with the wrong tires.congratz
+Bawtylol Its a dirt bike with pairs of smaller wheels and more powerful front brake in basics... They do change the clutch and some other parts to, but no need for that if your are complete beginer
Due to copyright issues i've had to cripple the video and exchange the original Intro Song by Blink 182 with this sh*t.
Still not bad!
I was just about to comment on the shitty music until I read your comment. Great video though!
I still hear What's My Age Again
Viktor Vaughn Unfortunately, so do I :(
***** We're on different wavelengths.
i need this in my life
love your vids
tnx bro!
😂😂😂😂😢😨😨😨😨🍞🍞🍞🍠🍘🍠🍳🍳🍳🍳🍳🍳🍳🍳🚜🚜🚖🚵🚵🚵🚵🚵🚵🏩🏩🏧
Which bikes are these
Get it! U can do it too.
This is literly what I thought my bike test was gonna be when I was 8
Haha me too, The vision of grandeur was real
Yea powerful dirtbikes with slicks, who win the race gets the mighty license( sorry for bad english)
Ŵŗf@@miguelfincomaidame5145you in LpS,a
That video was F'n awesome! Loved it all - and wish I was that good of a rider! I try every day Im out, maybe some day...
That rear wheel drifting on asphalt drives me crazy, thank you, great vid.
those front tires never lose grip, incredible
that is supermoto my friend :D
Vinicius Moreira but back tires lose grip everytime sorry for bad england
Yes. Sorry for my bad London.
Wondering same thing
@@cnnlt200 rear tires are losing grip due to hard braking (locking up the wheel) or giving a ton of throttle to spin it free
Steering technique and weight placement are also important
4:09 I feel ur pain bro ' LOL
motards are amazing, for me the best kind of bikes!
Those dual exhausts are so sexy
3:00 Best ones
they sounded amazing
OMG this. is. AWESOME! I had no idea this was a thing, a track with both bitumen and dirt.
This makes me want a DRZ400SM. Looks way more fun and a lot safer than riding my GSXR600 through canyons.
I have a 400sm, they are fun and quite bulletproof as long as you stay on the basic maintenance. But, they are really heavy and underpowered, plus long distances anything over 150 miles a day is really taxing on the little thumper's and is uncomfortable. I work on motorcycles for a living and while it is a good solid motard, I would look into getting a Beta 450/520 or a KTM 500. Both are plated and can be converted to SM really easily. Only problem is the price.....but such is everything in life.
SMC419RR Mcinroe What are the Beta / KTM like day to day though? From what I've seen the DRZ is quite reliable as it isn't necessarily a race bike.. I've seen some bikes converted to road use but they're so highly strung that they need services every few dozen miles..
CBRsmithy Just from talking to a few other mechanics and a few people that ride Beta, A lot of people are liking them. I personally have not had a chance to work on one, but I do trust the people I talk to. KTM, a lot of people will still complain that KTM are junk, parts are hard to get, and the maintenance is a killer. KTM use very high quality parts in their bikes and yes, it can be costly to do maintenance on them. But a large bore bike like the EXC500 and RS520 are designed as dual sport motorcycles and the motors are built around the kind of style you would do during a long Dual sport race with a lot of Wide open areas. Now ringing the bikes neck constantly will wear down any motor faster, whether it be a single cylinder, V4, L-Twin, Inline 4 and so on. But maintenance should be a number one priority on your vehicle. You shouldn't rely on the fact the motor may be able to go another couple hours or hundred miles before a service.
Yes, I have seen a few guys with CRF450R's converted over to motard and they have plates and lights and everything. The only problem with that compared to a DRZ is, Motocross bikes are designed to do Moto. The stator output stock is not reliable to put a full lighting system on. Also if you look at the gearing, they are way different in transmission and final gear ratio. A DRZ stock gearing is 15FT 41RT compared to a general stock moto bike with around 14FT and 49RT. The gearing is going to be great in tight corners and short straightaways. Also Moto bikes are designed to rev fast and have a very high output (HP and Torque) so the maintenance is going to be needed a lot more often.Plus getting 450's plated can be a bitch in some states. Although I absolutely love true supermoto bikes, In a daily commuter, they are not what I would like to ride everyday to work or do errands.
So when making your decision, think about what you are going to use the bike for, if its just putting around town and going to work doing about 80 miles a day, The DRZ400SM is an excellent choice with a few minor mods you can kinda get that pig into a firebreather. If money isn't an issue, go with the KTM500 EXC and slap some 17's on that beast, adjust your suspension, get better brakes and enjoy smiling for the rest of your life. Finally, if you just want to shred around town and like to do regular upkeep on your bike, Convert a Japanese 450 over and shred til your days are done.
SMC419RR Mcinroe Amazing reply dude, thank you! It would be a hard choice to make I think, I'd definitely have to test ride the bikes and see what suits me usage the best. But you're right what you say, any bike should be maintained properly, but I too have seen road-legal CRF450's and the like in the UK, and the owners generally say they're amazing fun for a short weekend, then they're doing full services on them almost weekly..
For me, that kind of constant servicing would take away the fun factor of the bike somewhat. When I've been looking at bikes for sale, DRZ400's in good condition are around £3000, for the same money or a little bit more I can find something like a KTM 640 SM, which I'd definitely be interested in. There are road 'legal' SX's for the same money too, but I think one of those on the road would be pretty crazy!
You don't need a DRZ400SM to do this, you can get any 400/450/whatever dirt bike and put a set of sumo wheels on it. I've seen peeps using two-stroke bikes on the sumo courses and doing a kickass job of it. DRZ's are heavy, even the kicker/E models, but they do come from the factory kitted with the 17" wheels. I swear if Yamaha made a WR450X, I'd be ALL over that baby!!!
3:21 sounds like thunder, that sound is just ace
Front end Grip is awesome.
amazing how they get that grip and dont just fall over in the muddy part of the track like its ice.
Im amazed they're keeping traction. Amazing 👏👏👏
amazingly sketchy I love it!
this is insane! So much bike control...
Esse é o verdadeiro motard !! 👏👏👏👏
one of my favourite videos!
Excellent video essay. Felt like I was there!
This looks like soooo much fun!
People just don’t understand how awesome super motos are. This video shows a perfect example
This is some quality shit !
Thumbs up
Man!!! Creepy staring guy @1:00...
calipm1 Haha, so true. Guess it was a girl tho :-x
Jesus Christ poor man just wants some supermoto action, leave him alone lol
Very good congratulations
Hammer Video! War auch schon oft da!
Lourd et le son du debut on est d'accord👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I wish supermoto was as popular in the US as it is in Europe. Think they are the coolest bikes for sure
Just put street tires on a dirtbike.
@@someguy5035 ya but its not very common in the usa, compared to like Europe... i already have an smr450 :) I love it.
@@fatguyonalittlebike3336 Just spent a few days at the Tail of the Dragon last week. My friend had a DR650 with sump tires on it. They were great until it rained.
i like the opening music 😂
Living in Pilion, Greece can assure you Supermoto is the closest thing to basic, everyday transportation. Down here at least.
An observation from somebody who was into racing up to 125cc (& basically living on Honda's for my teens-twenties) back in the early to mid-80s;
this generation has sorta grownup w/ the 4strokes.
None of this seems correct without 2strokes is my initial reaction after consuming 15min of this footage.
It's got a similar feeling as Indy500 racing does vs F1 to me.
Voted for the fucking epic sound!!!
i love supermoto !
Honestly this is a great video
wow... that looks like crazy fun! All these dudes shred!
That is some top notch cornering in that muddy asphalt!
Golden era of supermoto....
how the hell is it possible for him to go hard braking on the front drift the tail on asphalt full of mud without crashing.. the last time i walk on mud, i slipped and fell..
the lovley sound of 4 stroke
Very nice
Einfach geil,supermoto St.Wendel,pflichtprogramm in jedem jahr und natürlich nächstes jahr auch,ob regen oder sonne ich bin dabei....
The song reminds me of middle school! goodthing
music choice was definitely good
It's good, video is sick. Good slides.
ach gott saarland 4ever:D wohnt ihr auch in St. Wendel?
Außerdem geiles Video^^
Can i edit this?
EYOOO NTK :D I wish you would have just edited this :D Would have been dope I think :D
Very good treck for this video The Prodigy - Omen
Never seen conditions like that in Southern California i bet.
Awesome video! l supermoto o much :-)
2:33 that some balls right there, damn close to flying line a rag in the air
il est passer a deux centimetre du trottoir
You don't get no chicken strips with supermoto guys! 😂
Nice video!
Supermotard 😍
this looks wildly fun.
sweet video ... crazy control.
.. loving the Bike.. ❤️
Fan of number #3 1:27
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このタイヤで、このスピードでダートを走れるんですね!! オイラには出来ない…即コケるわ♪
Brilliant! Might have a go myself one day...
Nice intro man
très bonne vidéo !!!.....
if you imagine this sound is farting this video just becomes hilarious
+Bawtylol so random... but this comment made me laugh so hard tears started coming out of my face!
I clicked for Supermoto
I stayed for Blink!
Yes, same here. Looks like UA-cam disabled it for mobile because of the music.
Take away the knobbies and add a bunch mud, and simple jumps become daunting mountains!
Em uma prova desta o piloto que conseguir terminar mesmo que em último já é um vencedor.
braaaaaaaaaaaap:)
hardcore! Great video!
Muito show, radical.
Whats the difference between Husqvarna 501 supermoto, Yamaha YZF450, and the Aprilia svx550 versus lets say the Ducati Hypermotard, Aprilia Dorsoduro, MV Agusta Rivale 800.
Are supermotos basically dirt bikes with mirrors and a license plate and those motards are like half motorcycle and half dirt bike?
I'd really like to know where do they get all that grip. I've been riding all afternoon like a maniac in the woods and i did lose grip more than once in the turns... I've also tried drifting like that - Which ended up highsiding. God dammit
Applying too much brake and ended in highside? Idk
Yeah,pretty much. I guess it just takes a lot of skill and experience.
NikkiDiamond Yeah That's what I am thinking, I guess keep practicing and don't be afraid to ask questions to more experienced riders. Try to keep up with the faster guys and you will eventually get better faster.
I'd love to try keeping up with the faster guys,but the fact is that i ride alone all the time haha
None of my friends ride motorcycles.
I'll keep going for it anyways,I couldn't see myself doing any other sport than off-roading/riding on a track
NikkiDiamond Keep it up! :)
crazy how little these bikes with wide tires sink in. With Motocross tires you would literally need a periscope to see out of the ditches in that mud haha
Fuck yes the intro song was perfect.
perfect tires :)
in one hand there are dirt bikes with long suspensions and its proper long-diameter knobby tires meant to be ridden on muddy dirty terrain but have not-so-good top speed. in the other hand, there are bikes with short suspensions (lowering the center of gravity for better stability) sleek tires meant to be ridden on plain asphalt due to better adherence to it and also having high top speed. Two very distinctive scenarios and two specially designed bikes for each. Then you have a bikenstein meant for both scenarios.... The result is a bike that fails considerably in both situations, obviously. (for sure, i will never get it...)
That suspension is considerably harder than stock dirtbike suspension, and they usually run inverted front forks. Motards are surprisingly good handling.
They are decent in dirt, too, only let down by the tyres.
That looks like great fun!
The song was "What's My Age Again" by Blink 182.
thx man
die Videos sind cool
dam ill never be that fast :(
4:35min Dauergrinsen :D
What a grip these bikes have on a wet track. :-O
cool video
This is great , 🤙
nope, they use rmz450 crf450r yz450f etc. and make modifications for supermoto, most of the popular manafacturers don't sell a supermoto bike, but if they do they are basically just a mx bike with sm wheels and a few small adjustments
That is a beautiful sport.
You need these type of events that slowly put down power to make four strokes relevant
4 strokes are the most relevant bike what you mean
@@bruhroyale12123 When it comes to dirt bike racing.
@@TheEdub. it still is. It’s most focused on and manufacturing and most and I mean most races are 4 stroke. Besides enduro
@@bruhroyale12123 Yes TV races AKA Manufacture sponsored are 4 stroke because of money. Everyone knows this. All local events and races where riders don't have mega sponsors are dominated by two strokes. Faster, lighter, and cheaper to rebuild and anyone can work on them, which means manufacturers lose money.
@@TheEdub. well yes but 4 strokes are still relevant. To say they are not relevant doesn’t seem right. Well at least to me.
nice blink 182 :D
Awesome action!
What bikes do they ride? Are those hondas? they sound exquisite
Honda, Ktm, yamaha, TM, ... Most likely all with 450cc
BorisBeer24 I knew they were 450cc bikes.
very good footage!
people usually say this about 2-stroke engines all of the time. 4-stroke has good sound, i know. i would know since i got a daytona anima 190cc on in my everyday transportation of choice. there's a guy in the area driving a dual sport 2-stroke down the road, i felt nostalgia to smell the exhaust of the 2-stroke and the high rpm, buzzing down the street.
supermoto= people who can`t make up their mind which bike they want to ride.street or mx.then they show up in muddy conditions with the wrong tires.congratz
This is the most European thing I've ever seen.
Who you name this kind of challenge? street, dirt? which category of bikes?
+Das Jucktmichnicht both :) it's a supermoto bike
what kind of bikes do they usually drive in these races? is it just literally dirt bikes with dual sport wheels?
Supermoto bro
+Bawtylol Its a dirt bike with pairs of smaller wheels and more powerful front brake in basics...
They do change the clutch and some other parts to, but no need for that if your are complete beginer
Que cilindraje son esas motos? (¿cc?)
the #3 is crazy
Just epic!
This looks so fun
what kind of tyres are they on ? they look like road tyres ?