Dachs games played over his career go: Rookie year - 64 18 70 58 2 His points go: Rookie - 23 10 26 38 2 He might have a great season and that would change where he lands next year but based on his actual career, he is a bottom feeder on a list like this today, at this point in time.
the best ability is availability, but that only applies to great talent. unfortunately even when Dach is available, his ability everyone seems to know he has vanishes.
Galchenyuk has put 350 points in the NHL. That's gotta count for something even if he fell off completely in 2019. Had a good season over in the KHL this past year. I wonder if he gets another shot with an NHL team or not. Regardless would have him ahead of Kotkaniemi.
I think Turris should be a bit higher. He had a nice string of 5 or so seasons with Ottawa where he was the #1 center on a team that won some playoff series. He was potting 60 pts when superstars were scoring 80. And he had some huge playoff overtime goals. Granted, he wasn't a star but he was really solid and he was loved in Ottawa. He can't be behind Kirby Dach.
I am really surprised that Dach is so high. I can get putting him above Kotkaniemi, but they are very close, so there being like 7 spots separating them is hard to understand
As long as some of us have been watching Shannon we’ve seen him pause videos for rabbits, cats, A/C noise, sneezes, and whiteboard adjustments. I believe the Garbage Truck excuse is a 1st. What’s next??
Kirby Dach was about to have a monster year last year and a freak injury ended it all after 4 periods of hockey. but he doesn't belong in the top 10 yet
Suggestion. Maybe do a list video of the Top Draft Picks After 3rd or top draft steals or something. Just to grab the notable players that got picked lower and should have been higher.
Fun Videos. I’m from Utah so I’m extremely excited for the season to start. I’m also 59 yrs old so I’ve followed hockey for a long time. My favorite player that I’ve followed is Theron Fluery yes he played in Salt Lake. My question and maybe you have answered this I’m new to your channel. In each position if you were starting a team who would you pick. You can use anyone whose ever played in the NHL Thanks, Dave
I would actually really like to see the 6th overall picks because that's the first sport where you see people start to reach or see the players that slipped like seider and tkachuk
I’d like to see a video where you rank draft classes from 2007-present. I remember thinking 2019 seemed like a weak year when the hawks took Dach. Looking at it now it’s worse than I thought. At least Montreal bailed the hawks out by giving us back a 1st round pick. I’m pretty optimistic about Nazar🤞
criminal that Bogosian and Gudbranson aren't higher. They don't put up points like Makar and Karlsson, but they're solid defencemen, which is the most underrated players in the league.
Heiskanen probably would have flourished if he hadn't been anchored down by Ryan Suter these last few seasons. Excited Suter is gone, hopefully DeBoer plays Miro on his strong side for a change
Really??? Kirby Dach that high??? I don’t usually disagree with THG, but that’s like East Hastings high. You can argue Dylan Strome, McTavish, or Cooley for that spot. Hell even Kyle Turris
@@kurtwpg I get that. But he’s had a quite a few games under his belt now. I know THG likes him, but I don’t see what precisely he likes. He looks like at best a 3C on a non-playoff team.
@@shhhhip52 I get that dach hasn't prove enough as of right now, but you haven't seen him play a lot if you think that (which is okay) but the guy is so good. I'm a habs fan and my favorite player on the team is suzuki, but at training camp and after the first game last year, I thought dach could become better than him. He controlls the game so much, is so efficient in the corners and is pretty good all around. Because of the injury, even myself would rank him 10-12 because he hasn't proven enough, but if he finally get the chance, he can be a great 2c in the future. (sorry it was longer than I thought😅)
The Heiskanen pick looking back is funny in a weird way because it's the most slam dunk draft pick for Dallas and then Cale Makar goes immediately after
I think the attitude even at the time of the draft was that Makar had the higher ceiling out of the two, while Heiskanen had much higher skill floor and probability of being a success at NHL level
@@randomstuff45914 it's one of those cases where, yeah, It would be amazing if we got exactly the Makar who emerged in Colorado, but given circumstances I think Heiskanen was really the best pick. Someday we'll get him a proper top 4 RD. Someday...
Looking at 4th overall picks the notable ones are Pietrangelo with 2 cups, Evander Kane with his controversies, Ryan Johansen who is solid, Griffin Reinhart and Oli Juolevi who were busts, Seth Jones who is fine, Luke Hughes and Shane Wright who have potential, Mitch Marner, Cale Makar and Brady Tkachuk are the best picks by far
For 3rd overalls, the group is weaker than what we could expect. Interesting that theres 6+ flops for top 5 expectation. Also alot of injury prone players. And actually good players that are extremely overpaid.
Its funny because at 1 and 2 you have some players who barely if ever touched the nhl but the bottom of the 3rd overall picks you have a guy with a 30 goal season and a solid bottom six player. Idk i found it weird.
She expected Zadina... who is even worse. The mistake was not taking Tkachuk who was in the mix with Zadina for the 3rd overall. (Before anyone talks about Hughes, he was never in the conversation for the 3rd pick at the time. )
@@ratoftoska7497lucky for the Canucks that Hughes was not a lock for top 3……and that he slipped past a few teams. Very fortunate day for my team. We basically got the best player in the draft at 7th. Incredible.
Usually don’t argue cuz it’s personal opinion but I don’t understand what caused you to put dach so high. With what he has done which is what you base these off of you could arguably have him behind gudbrandson
Tim Stutzle is easily better than Duchene. PLD and Dach are way way too high. Cooley and McTavish should be fighting for the 6 & 7 spots. I would honestly put Dylan Strome ahead of both Dach and PLD
I think you go too recent in these rankings. If you did like 2000-2015 for example, you'd be able to know for all of those players how good they are or have been. When you have guys drafted in 2021 and 2022, that's where the confusion comes in. Putting Kirby Dach 7th just feels odd when he hasn't done anything yet. It'd be better to wait so you could definitively say. Yes I know this is just a UA-cam video where you churn out fun content for us, but that's just my two cents. It'd be more interesting and informative/accurate that way.
I'd put Galchenyuk ahead of Kotkaniemi. Galchenyuk at least had flashes of greatness Kotkaniemi has been a dud basically his entire career. Also really goes to show just how badly the habs drafted and developed players during the Bergevin regime
@@clipchampion he had a 30 goal season and a 20 goal season. That's gotta count for something. Kotkaniemi hasn't even had a 20 goal season and most years can barely hit 30 points let alone goals
Do you watch hockey? Kirby Dach should be near the bottom of this list. As of RIGHT NOW, McTavish better player. Bogosian better player. Cooley better player. Strome better player. Turris better player. Drouin better player.
You should have said which team drafted these players.............. I know you know that information like the back of your hand, but some of us don't.........
The moral of the story
Montreal needs to avoid any number 3 pick from here on out lmao
Dachs games played over his career go:
Rookie year - 64
18
70
58
2
His points go:
Rookie - 23
10
26
38
2
He might have a great season and that would change where he lands next year but based on his actual career, he is a bottom feeder on a list like this today, at this point in time.
the best ability is availability, but that only applies to great talent. unfortunately even when Dach is available, his ability everyone seems to know he has vanishes.
@@JoeMazzullaaa not to mention his well-known shite attitude in the locker room
@@NRTHKRhe was great in the first 4 periods of the season. Kinda feel off hard afterwards though
yeah should he not just straight up be #15?
Couldn't have said it better myself
I think it would be cool to list the top 10 picks outside the 1st round in any given draft.
I'd still have Galchenyuk ahead of KK at this point.
Galchenyuk has put 350 points in the NHL. That's gotta count for something even if he fell off completely in 2019. Had a good season over in the KHL this past year. I wonder if he gets another shot with an NHL team or not. Regardless would have him ahead of Kotkaniemi.
Compared to last year:
Draisaitl -
Heiskanen +1
Huberdeau +1
Duchene +3
Stutzle -
Dubois -
Dach +3
Cooley (new)
McTavish -1
Strome -1
Drouin -
Turris +1
Bogosian +2
Gudbranson -
Kotkaniemi -3
Galchenyuk -
Retired from the list: Toews (#2)
Dach should 100% be behind Turris at 12.
Dach is trash
Was waiting for an other jonathan but forgot hes 2006
I think Turris should be a bit higher. He had a nice string of 5 or so seasons with Ottawa where he was the #1 center on a team that won some playoff series. He was potting 60 pts when superstars were scoring 80. And he had some huge playoff overtime goals. Granted, he wasn't a star but he was really solid and he was loved in Ottawa. He can't be behind Kirby Dach.
I am really surprised that Dach is so high. I can get putting him above Kotkaniemi, but they are very close, so there being like 7 spots separating them is hard to understand
As long as some of us have been watching Shannon we’ve seen him pause videos for rabbits, cats, A/C noise, sneezes, and whiteboard adjustments.
I believe the Garbage Truck excuse is a 1st. What’s next??
Kirby Dach was about to have a monster year last year and a freak injury ended it all after 4 periods of hockey. but he doesn't belong in the top 10 yet
Suggestion. Maybe do a list video of the Top Draft Picks After 3rd or top draft steals or something. Just to grab the notable players that got picked lower and should have been higher.
The best thing about PLD is that every team that has traded him away has won that trade.
Gudbranson has the best Agent in the league. Consistently able to find contracts above his value throughout his career.
Fun Videos. I’m from Utah so I’m extremely excited for the season to start. I’m also 59 yrs old so I’ve followed hockey for a long time. My favorite player that I’ve followed is Theron Fluery yes he played in Salt Lake.
My question and maybe you have answered this I’m new to your channel. In each position if you were starting a team who would you pick. You can use anyone whose ever played in the NHL
Thanks, Dave
I would actually really like to see the 6th overall picks because that's the first sport where you see people start to reach or see the players that slipped like seider and tkachuk
I was about to lose it when you put Miro #2 but I forgot Leon is a #3. And yeah ok...LOL
I’d like to see a video where you rank draft classes from 2007-present. I remember thinking 2019 seemed like a weak year when the hawks took Dach. Looking at it now it’s worse than I thought. At least Montreal bailed the hawks out by giving us back a 1st round pick. I’m pretty optimistic about Nazar🤞
several MTL and ANA picks at 3, and they've also picked 1 and 2 in other years where someone else has picked #3
criminal that Bogosian and Gudbranson aren't higher. They don't put up points like Makar and Karlsson, but they're solid defencemen, which is the most underrated players in the league.
Turris should've never left Ottawa
Best things Duchene ever did for Colorado was serve as trade bait to fleece Ottawa
Heiskanen probably would have flourished if he hadn't been anchored down by Ryan Suter these last few seasons. Excited Suter is gone, hopefully DeBoer plays Miro on his strong side for a change
Logan Cooley will climb next year.
Really??? Kirby Dach that high??? I don’t usually disagree with THG, but that’s like East Hastings high. You can argue Dylan Strome, McTavish, or Cooley for that spot. Hell even Kyle Turris
The HIGHEST Dach should be is 12. He’s clearly in the 12-14 range though
I feel like Dach got more projection of future results as a draft+5 player than Cooley or McTavish got as draft+2 and draft+3 players.
Even if he wasn’t hurt constantly, he should still fall out of the top 12.
@@kurtwpg I get that. But he’s had a quite a few games under his belt now. I know THG likes him, but I don’t see what precisely he likes. He looks like at best a 3C on a non-playoff team.
@@shhhhip52 I get that dach hasn't prove enough as of right now, but you haven't seen him play a lot if you think that (which is okay) but the guy is so good. I'm a habs fan and my favorite player on the team is suzuki, but at training camp and after the first game last year, I thought dach could become better than him. He controlls the game so much, is so efficient in the corners and is pretty good all around. Because of the injury, even myself would rank him 10-12 because he hasn't proven enough, but if he finally get the chance, he can be a great 2c in the future. (sorry it was longer than I thought😅)
@@spyrrex_7541he could be the best player in the world but he's never going to show that if he's always injured
The Heiskanen pick looking back is funny in a weird way because it's the most slam dunk draft pick for Dallas and then Cale Makar goes immediately after
I think the attitude even at the time of the draft was that Makar had the higher ceiling out of the two, while Heiskanen had much higher skill floor and probability of being a success at NHL level
I shudder to think of what Bowness Hockey would have done to Makar
@@TheFusionmix makar would’ve been sick but yeah ricky bones hockey would not cater to
him at all
@@randomstuff45914 it's one of those cases where, yeah, It would be amazing if we got exactly the Makar who emerged in Colorado, but given circumstances I think Heiskanen was really the best pick. Someday we'll get him a proper top 4 RD. Someday...
Cale landed inna dream scenario with the Avs he wouldn’t be the same player in Dallas
Looking at 4th overall picks the notable ones are Pietrangelo with 2 cups, Evander Kane with his controversies, Ryan Johansen who is solid, Griffin Reinhart and Oli Juolevi who were busts, Seth Jones who is fine, Luke Hughes and Shane Wright who have potential,
Mitch Marner, Cale Makar and Brady Tkachuk are the best picks by far
Kessel will always be number 1 on the 5th overall list
Sad to see 2 Montréal picks in the bottom two 😢
When you return I would like to see videos rounding out this to at least 5. I'm interested in your analysis even if you are uncertain.
Do #4 come on. Leon deserves to top some lists lol
I hope you did #4 just so that I can see Detroit on the board.
Dach is really high I'm shocked
For 3rd overalls, the group is weaker than what we could expect. Interesting that theres 6+ flops for top 5 expectation. Also alot of injury prone players. And actually good players that are extremely overpaid.
Its funny because at 1 and 2 you have some players who barely if ever touched the nhl but the bottom of the 3rd overall picks you have a guy with a 30 goal season and a solid bottom six player. Idk i found it weird.
I still remember that terrible 1999 draft. Numerous 1st rounders played zero NHL games and many played under 30.
The famous reaction from that woman when Montreal selected Kotkaniemi continues to be completely warranted.
who did she expect them to draft again I forget
She expected Zadina... who is even worse. The mistake was not taking Tkachuk who was in the mix with Zadina for the 3rd overall. (Before anyone talks about Hughes, he was never in the conversation for the 3rd pick at the time. )
😂😂😂
@@ratoftoska7497lucky for the Canucks that Hughes was not a lock for top 3……and that he slipped past a few teams. Very fortunate day for my team. We basically got the best player in the draft at 7th. Incredible.
How long do you plan on doing this series? Not trying to be rude just genially curious
genially curious??😭
@Darrakkii I spelled it wrong so what lol
If this list included 2005/06 thsn Jack Johnson would be 13 and Jonathan Toews would be #1
Lowkey I’d take galchenyuk over KK
Usually don’t argue cuz it’s personal opinion but I don’t understand what caused you to put dach so high. With what he has done which is what you base these off of you could arguably have him behind gudbrandson
Dach is a solid top 6 forward when healthy. I can't penalize him for being injured.
@@TheHockeyGuy appreciate the insight on why he was placed there. Love your content been watching since mid 2019 season always enjoy it ❤️
Habs draft pick was Horrible...At least,Carolina stuck with KK.
Trevor Timmins dislikes this video.
There wasn't a drop off in 2006.
Tim Stutzle is easily better than Duchene. PLD and Dach are way way too high. Cooley and McTavish should be fighting for the 6 & 7 spots. I would honestly put Dylan Strome ahead of both Dach and PLD
Drouin should be 1
How is Logan Cooley below Kirby Dach?
Because that's where he got ranked.
because 8 comes after 7
That's easy, he put Dach higher.
He didn’t reach up as high when he wrote Cooleys name
Because
#3 is interesting and all, but what about best 69th picks?
If you go 2008 where is Toews on your list gotta be top 3 no?
@@bobtiki9767 2006 you mean but should be #2 at least
@@lankancheetah yes thanks
Had high hopes for Dach. Let’s GO HAWKS
Interesting, only three players justifies to get drafted that high😢 . (Stutzle will get there😀)
None of those players have won a cup
Not true. Zach Bogosian.
I think you go too recent in these rankings. If you did like 2000-2015 for example, you'd be able to know for all of those players how good they are or have been.
When you have guys drafted in 2021 and 2022, that's where the confusion comes in. Putting Kirby Dach 7th just feels odd when he hasn't done anything yet. It'd be better to wait so you could definitively say.
Yes I know this is just a UA-cam video where you churn out fun content for us, but that's just my two cents. It'd be more interesting and informative/accurate that way.
Unless Kotkaniemi puts up 30 goals I'd put Galchenyuk above him.
Dach at 7 is crazy.. McTavish is already better than him.
sadly montreal drafted pick 15 and 16......both a waste
KK had a good playoff run in 2021
I'd put Galchenyuk ahead of Kotkaniemi. Galchenyuk at least had flashes of greatness Kotkaniemi has been a dud basically his entire career. Also really goes to show just how badly the habs drafted and developed players during the Bergevin regime
@@adamn7777 flashes of greatness is crazy
@@clipchampion he had a 30 goal season and a 20 goal season. That's gotta count for something. Kotkaniemi hasn't even had a 20 goal season and most years can barely hit 30 points let alone goals
@@adamn7777 I get it, as a comparison I can see the framing. I maintain my shock at reading greatness though lol
@@clipchampion greatness might be a bit much but "pretty goodness" isn't really a term
This is a big deal
Id put galvhenyuk way ahead of kotkaniemi
Do you watch hockey? Kirby Dach should be near the bottom of this list. As of RIGHT NOW, McTavish better player. Bogosian better player. Cooley better player. Strome better player. Turris better player. Drouin better player.
I gotta get some of those Star Wars geeky jerseys
Love how terrible the Habs are at drafting on this list, we really had great scouts back then
Redraft the 1986 draft please
Really weak draft class besides Leetch
Daphousse, Young, Jeney and Numinen were solid
Interesting how 5 of these guys have played for the Senators
TEG has really improved. THG may be able to take more vacations.
KK and Chucky were such busts lol. Sad. Wonder where we’d be if they worked out
Hopefully Kirby’s brother isn’t made of glass too🤞
Even Galchenyuk at last place had a decent career overall
Bergevin with the bottom two spots during Carey Price's prime. Attaboy.
If you ended up going back to 2006, it might compete with your #1 on this list.
Yikes, pick 3 aint looking so hot
You should have said which team drafted these players.............. I know you know that information like the back of your hand, but some of us don't.........
Leon Gyllenhaal best 3rd ever
Makar best 4th ever
Leon who??
Might as well baptize this board : “the let’s slap the Canadiens” board.
Okay
Go to pick 4 because I want to see where Lucas Raymond slots. 😂😂😂
Montreal lmao😆
Huberdeau shouldn't be on this list
I was so looking forward to seeing that Thrashers magnet for Bogosian but no magnets today :(
I know it’s early but wow huberdeau over stutzle insane pic THG!
If huberdeau has like 50 points again and stutzle gets up to like 95-100
back to back bad thg lists, what happened to my goat