Episode 46 - The Mover and Gonky Show
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
- Every Monday at 8PM ET, Mover (F-16, F/A-18, T-38, 737, helicopter pilot, author, cop, and wanna be race car driver) and Gonky (F/A-18, T-38, A320, dirt bike racer, author, and awesome dad) discuss everything from aviation to racing to life and anything in between.
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WOMBAT’S BACK!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
And On point as always 👍👍
I love WOMBAT on the show. Always great contributions.
Movers comments on the jump seat and the safety, and the boys club was right on. What you said is applicable to so much more in our lives.
Partly, but the threat of FAA reprisal over a minor issue is very real. Anyone who doubts that can see what happened to Bob Hoover over literally NOTHING.
We all make mistakes. If an error is not wilful then usually it is a debrief item between the crew and you move on. That's part of being a professional.
Mover also said(in regards to the 2 jets trading paint) "just the tip?" Lol😂😂😂
@@user-tu2gl6pl5m two things can be true at once. Don't report people to the FAA, but also don't try to ruin someone's life for it either.
I happen to be one of the guys who didn't believe this story when it first came out and cautioned my friends to wait for the facts to emerge instead of jumping the gun. "A rumor gets half way around the world before the truth gets its shoes on."
People are too casual when it comes to saying things that can wrongly harm a person's life. You and I have both been on the receiving end of that. It's not fun. But that ALSO goes both ways
Jumpseat N*zis are a real thing and I can't stand them. I have more important things to do than worry about what the person sitting behind me is plotting for my career demise. I want my jumpseaters to be a teammate and an asset to help me get the jet from A to B safely not a spy that's going to run to management or the Feds if I make a minor mistake that CRM is designed to catch.
@@user-tu2gl6pl5m yup. That's why I said both sides are wrong here. But this should have been handled in house via jumpseat committees. It should not be a public spectacle.
What a great episode. Always love seeing WOMBAT on the show. His raw unfiltered talks/opinions/explanations are great. Please get Nasty on the show as well.
Not even 30mins into the show and Mover and WOMBAT are back at it!! Love it lol.
Gonky's drink = instant like! xD
I came to this channel via YT recommendations, but I'm staying for the content. At 66 years old, never served, thanks to you and whom you have on for all your service. May YT continue to monetize your channels!
Best ever episode!!!🙏👌,thank you all for your hard work in putting these shows together ,I really appreciate it 👍
Phantom Phorever.
Half the reason why the F-4 was in the ROK air force for so long is because NK never got new jets past the Mig-29. Old as they are, the South Korean F-4 was only ever going to be hunting its natural prey. The F-16 is near overkill against North Korea, to say nothing about the F-15 or the F-35.
The other half is because the US, for some reason, allowed South Korea to do tests on the F-4 that they wouldn't allow on any of the newer jets. The KGGB, which is Korea's JDAM-ER, can be fired from the F-4 but not the F-16/15/35. South Korea was also testing ECM pods and other such tech on the F-4.
A lot of weird people out there spreading misinformation about the ROKAF just because they still operate F4s and F5s and yet ignore that the ROKAF has one of the biggest non-US fleets of F-16/15/35s. And unlike some other countries, they actually have those F-35s delivered and not just on order.
Another part of it is simply the close relations with “Korea” after World War II. It led it to that way and the F4 was the best thing available at the time.
It still wasn’t a bad plane when the US navy retired it. The airframes were simply aged out.
mover u Severed in Korea i got a Resent update from my mother my dads father my grandfather was a member of a Batalyin as a side gunner in Koren war.
Pneumatic Elephant's comment about the name for Wombat's 3rd book was hilarious! Wombat and Gonky laughing made it even more funny and then Mover's reaction...PRICELESS! Well done guys! Needed a good laugh! Really enjoy this podcast and look forward to it each week!
Flying IS fun. That's why so many of us choose it as a profession. Yes, "boring and uneventful" flights are still the coolest thing in the world. Way better than digging ditches for a dollar a day.
It's the best..... I had a friend ask when we were going to get flying cars...... I said we already have them they're called airplanes.... We got flying buses too they're called airbuses 👍
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I'm waiting for Gonky to bully UFO and aliens 😅
The aliens do live in a very small country ;)
Great show boys 👍🏻👍🏻
Another great show.
Mover stated, "Just the tip?" LOL 😂 they do like the tip 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great episode
Happy birthday Top gun!
Welcome back Wombat😊. Great show as always
ROKAF loved those F-4E just because it was a bomb truck.
Love WOMBAT! (minute 30) Go back to being a team!!! Awesome
I like Wombat, too, but geeze, somedays he comes across as one of three things:
Surly.
Bored.
Annoyed with the children (M&G).
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J.K.
As far as the jumpseat thing goes, I have to say this...I had a good career that ended 22 years ago when I turned 60...I used to tell my crew that the only time I will get mad at you, is if you see me doing something wrong, and don't tell me....also no secrets in the cockpit...tell me if you do something......
On the Yak-130 ejection, second seat was definitely out of the envelope. Worst thing in the world for ejections in rolling aircraft, is someone is going to end up pointed in the wrong direction. Yes, ACES seats are pretty much all self righting, post clearance, but they need some altitude to do the righting in. He also didn't have time, if at all to get a fully opened chute.
Gonky, Yes, in your world there was F-4J's and N's (and S's) but that was a Navy lettering thing, the most common J was built at the same time as the F-4E for the USAF, but was more akin to the F-4 C/D as there was never a gun on the Navy planes. Also some letters were for foreign country uses, but the same as the USAF E, or similar. The F model was an E for the Germans, with smokeless engines and a fuel tank number 7 as a ballast tank in the tail as the main mechanical differences. Bottom line, the E model was the last model built at the end of production.
On the PERS-43, experienced a detailer situation myself twice in the USAF (Randolph AFB) and came out ahead in both assignments to retire at 20. Of course, that was back in the late 80's, everybody was for the mission, now it's more they are into trying to shape the branches to match political agendas, and those that do not want to "toe the (Ideal military as per their Ivy League eyes) line", they would rather dispense with them. In other words they want human drones as well as nonhuman drones to make the perfect push button force. I would look above the PERS(AFMPC) system and see what their bosses, behind the scenes, mission directives are.
WOMBAT, Thank you for your presence, Sir, you bring a lot of fresh perspectives to the discussions. Thank you Mover and Gonky (and Princess Luna).
The pilot suffered a heart attack sometime after ejection/seat separation unfortunately.
Think of the Dutch pilot(?) who took off, rolled and landed an F104! That was impressive!
Great, insightful and fun show as usual you guys c= I don't usually chime in but during the mental health minute Mover talked about thinking what we would personally and or collectively gain as a society before deciding if we should be siding with, or at least justifying mob mentality
I think that, not only from a mental health perspective, but also existentially as to who we are and what we make ourselves to be, generally speaking when it comes to personal decisions and choices, tying what we consider to be good or bad relative to material outcomes more so than what those decisions mean and say about who we are as a person, can be unhealthy - because that can lead to the sort of thinking where one ties their self worth or even who they are to those external things instead of who they really are and I think that can lead to a lot of bad things
Just what I think though, always enjoy watching you guys and listening to your insights on stuff as well as other things c= have fun you guys can't wait for the next episode ♥
That's the main reason we are a Republic and not a pure democracy. The latter is mob rule.
Or as someone once put it: Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on who's for dinner.
As for the crowd... I noticed that in Scripture the crowd is always wrong. Even if you are not a person of faith it is still an interesting phenomenon.
I always wait at least 72 hours on a story before even thinking about forming an opinion. It takes that long for the truth to catch up to the rumor.
Tremendous fellas thanks. Mover please check out the biggest country in the world Turkey’s fleet of f4 2020 Terminators (updated f4s)
You guys hit this one so far out of the park, they're still looking for it.⚾️ Totally Awesome Show. Gonky, one question, why the chopstick? I don't get it.🙄😲
To stir!
A swizzle stick...used to be a bartender.
I was in my last 10 days of high school when the OG TG opened. I went to boot camp in California on June 10th. I saw it 10 times after I graduated boot.
I went to the Marine Military Academy in Harlingen, TX as a freshman plebe the same summer "Full Metal Jacket" came out. There's nothing quite as fun as being PT'd by a bunch of teenage Gunnery Sergeant Hartmans.
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Thanks gents for this episode, you guys just outdid yourselves, that was EPIC! Amen to what's been said. The only thing that worries me now is, it's not just you'll be lynched on pilots forums, but a bunch of sad gentlemen in black suits will come after you nd make you (and the show) disappear without a trace.
BTW adding to Dougs last question, WOMBAT learning how to fly Viper when? If army helo guy can, then why not naval aviator :)
A wild Wombat appears!
Missed having wombat around
Another epic show guys also great to see WOMBAT back. The section on pers-43 I connected with most, I’ve recently been forced out of a job after 24 years due to very similar statement. Regardless of where and who these idiots are getting into positions and they don’t care about people and how dare someone question them and if you do your finished. Makes you think aliens (that’s for you Mover) 😅
have they sent someone 2 prision 2 get his side also i dont have a issue with my dad playing catch with me growing up.
Mover's comments about the toxicity of the industry is sadly true. It is really concerning to me that many in the industry seem to be reverting back to that normalization of deviance attitude that plagued commercial aviation for a long time. Not just flight deck crews, though you could certainly argue they're the most toxic, but manufacturers (cough Boeing cough), ATC, and even the FAA itself. There have been so many close calls lately and it is only because there are well trained, experienced personnel willing to speak up when they see even the slightest issue that we've averted disaster. We need more people speaking up, not less, because it is only a matter of time before the close miss turns into a hit.
I saw a very e-famous former wide body Captain harassing a current wide body Captain for reposting that old video of the Russian Airbus taking off with like 2 inches of snow packed on its wings and saying if you see this, as a passenger, speak up against it. The former Captain was calling it fake and clickbait and saying it never happens and leads to hysteria. Yeah, it doesn't happen (often) because most of us learned from the dozens of times it did happen and it killed people. The crew in the video didn't learn, luckily they lived. Next time they may not be so lucky. Like Gonky said, I'd rather have my career ruined and be alive because I spoke up than be a smoking hole in the ground because I didn't.
fun fact.... I have read both of WOMBATS books and have yet to ready any of MOVERS.... maybe I should change that.....
You should definitely get Movers books. I have like 11 of them and have read 6 of them. They're good books. I'd bought and read The Spectre box set years before I'd started watching his videos and after a couple of years of watching the videos, and seeing his books in the background displayed I was "Hey I think I've got/read this guy's books." And sure enough I had. So I re‐read a couple of them to refresh my memory.
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wombats - eat roots and leaves
WOMBAT!!!!
We had the answer to drone swarms in the 60’s. The Air2 Genie. JK
You three are NUTS, imagine you guys w/ alcohol, the nation couldn't be in better hands. (The 3-winged stooges)
LOL!
Mark rober covered the interceptor drone that has been developed any thoughts on having those aboard ships as additional protection layer? Also the fat electrician absolutely would love to talk with y’all he’s also a military historian so hit him up with some unique stories
The S. Korean, Greek and Turkish F-4s were upgraded with F-16 radars/computers and 'semi-glass' cockpits a while ago.
That’s correct. I am Greek hence my username here. The upgrades with the Greek and Turkish airforces are tit for tat though. The Hellenic airforce had to respond because we’re still technically at war.
Look at the demarcation line that runs through Cyprus and then realise why Greece has to have one of the best military forces in the whole of Europe.
Wombat speaks the truth.
The Wonky and Gombat show next!
Just don’t call him Gronky. If you type Gronk into Urban Dictionary you’ll have fun.
Now I know Gonky is a reference to a defective unit ou5 of Star Wars it makes his call sign even funnier.
Airline safety: If you don't follow procedures, bad things will happen, they exist for a reason.
According to legend, BGen. Buzz Aldrin flew an F-16 at age 87, more than once. Although the Thunderbirds flight was tame, a subsequent flight was rumored to involve 5Gs+ with him actually piloting the jet.
Buzz wasn't actually flying. He was just in the back seat.(of the F-16) Also, he was given controls in the, F-38 Talon(when they allowed him to be in the, F-38) only AFTER take-off. Also, Buzz didn't land the, F-38 either.
In regards to the "pulling 5Gs and possibly 5Gs+" that's false. The medical flight doctor only allowed the pilot(who again, WAS NOT, Buzz) to pull no more than 3Gs
Really, what kind of secrets can a Marine give the Chinese? The pink crayons have the best flavor?
The Volkswagen Golf Gti mkii.
Beats mustang, any day of the week.
maybe if you're 12 years old and also physically impossible on a 1/4 mile.
@@jonnie2bad well.... Fair point. I was 12 at the time.
And we didn't do quarter miles 😎
Lol. Troll 😂
Not lying like....
Mover and Wombat hitting multiple nails square on the head with their jump seater comments.
Of course there's some sketchy comments in forums sometimes,
but APC specifically has zero req. for entry and many comments sound like they came from a teenager in their Mom's basement.
I'm curious how a 75-year-old with minimal experience could handle being in a AI Fighter jet pulling maneuvers against another fighter pilot🤔
Tbh, Malaysia's best interest, given their inventory, would be to go for the FA-50M and onwards Kaan or just Super Hornets. And, TAI already has a branch in Malaysia to help with the LMS project (which they are about to sign the agreement with Turkey) and other such work. They have already signed an agreement for the ANKA-S (mentioned for Satcom capability). But I am frankly not optimistic about the Kaan for RMAF. I don't think it makes sense for Malaysia to opt for an aircraft that is said to cost 100-150 million dollars per unit, not because it is not good for them, but because the budget would be more costly than the FA-50M or Super Hornets
Airline pilots are the worst for starting rumors and jumping on the ones that are out there and all of a sudden a rumor becomes a “fact”.
Great show guys - thanks.
I'm another who loves to listen to the banter between a bunch of old fighter mates.
Something came up in my link today:
The War Zone: Live Fast, Die Young: The Story of the U.S. Navy's Hot-Rod F-16N
ua-cam.com/video/0j7Z7Qnu7no/v-deo.html
Care to comment on the F-16N at some stage?
666th like!! Woooo wombat!!!
Why can't I see the chat?
Swipe across, for chat replay
@@neuropilot7310 Thanks!
Wombat the problem is not they don’t realize that they are ruining someone’s life the problem is they don’t care. That’s the keyboard warrior mentality.
I said it here a couple years ago and I'll say it again, Mover, Gonky the way you were treated by the DoD is an absolute disgrace.
Being called a terrorist is complete and utter bs. My understanding is completely academic. I am an IR specialist, studied peace and conflict, just about everything about what terrorism is… no part of not wanting to do a full commission in no way represents a terrorist.
Unfortunately it’s not uncommon for ex-service people to get screwed. I’ve seen it happen repeatedly.
I would respond exactly the same way Wombat did. I like the fact people are willing to speak the truth.